Re: KR> engine progress

[Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet]

Larry

You are going to have to fly that without a cowl just see all the pretty….. 
NICE JOB…jw

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 14:59, Larry Flesner via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 


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Re: KR> Progress !

[Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet]

Larry

What a nice time to have that engine totally balanced…  have done it on a twin 
years ago and can not imagine what a difference it made….  well worth the time 
and money…  I am using a Geo 1.3 liter 4 cyl with a belt redrive on my project 
and it has increased the hp, rpm and performance a good bit…  according to the 
dyno…  good investment.. jw
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 17:07, Larry Flesner via KRnet  
> wrote:
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> 
> I was unable to get my  5 inch prop extension off the crank with several non 
> destructive efforts and didn't want to do anything to ruin either.  After 
> finding the right combination of socket size, bolt length, and number of 
> washers, I was able to p

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Re: KR> engine update

[Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet]

Larry, was our teachers on “pick it up, or else”   sisters   jw

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 07:11, Larry Flesner via KRnet  
> wrote:
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> At 12:02 AM 1/17/2017, you wrote:
>> I do not see an

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Re: KR> Christmas poem

[Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet]

Love it Larry, one of my Christmas favorites…..Merry Christmas to you and yours 
and all the KR family.. jw

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 17:56, Larry Flesner via KRnet  
> wrote:
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> 
> 
> It is time to send out my annual Christmas poem.  Merry Christmas to all that 
> celebrate the day and a happy and prosperous New Year to all


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KR> 2Si 2-stroke engine

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Oscar
Thanks for the background on this engine?  jw

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 17:09, Oscar Zuniga via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Don;
> 
> 
> The 3-cylinder 2Si 2-stroke was the featured engine for the "Lightning Bug" 
> composite 1-place homebuilt.  A zippy little plane, you can Google it, but 
> the problem is that the 2-strokes are quite a bit lighter than any of the 
> 4-strokes that are typically employed on KRs so it would require a longer 
> engine mount and cowling for W  Probably not as exaggerated as Mike 
> Ladigo's turbine engine powered KR, but longer than a VW or Corvair mount.
> 
> 
> Oscar Zuniga
> 
> Medford, OR
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KR> For Sale

[Joe. E. Wallace]

To the group or anyone that might be interested in the following:

1 2 SI 3 cylinder engine with reducing gear box?  best offer?   located in 
Florence S C.

1 new A-1 size 46 flight jacket$450.00 or best offer

2 other A-1 size 46 jackets best offer

Please e-mail me off line for picts and details 

Joe E Wallace
641 745 7837
jwallacep51 at gmail.com <mailto:jwallacep51 at gmail.com>

Thank You  jw

KR> Wing tank building material

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mike  I appreciate your comments?.jw

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 18:34, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> should

KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???

[Joe L.]

I have a brand new Rev flow 32 millimeter carburetor if someone needs one that 
I never used ?please contact me off the list thanks Kip

KR> Continental Engine Mount

[Joe Nunley]

^Can you get some new bolts through ^the firewall?

I think the top bolts would go into the fuel tank and foam.

KR> First flight 2016

[Joe Malsack]

Mark,
Had the lancair up also. Was beautiful once over 3500 ft. 

Joe In Merrill

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 27, 2016, at 4:08 PM, jean paul GLOTIN via KRnet  wrote:

> Hah
> Le 27 f?vr. 2016 19:52, "Mark Jones via KRnet"  a
> ?crit :
> 
>> I chipped away the ice from the bottom of my hanger door this morning.
>> Took me about 3 hours with a manual ice spade. Good workout on the arms.
>> For the first time since December 19 my ?Deer Slayer? KR saw the open
>> skies. After a preflight inspection she came to life after a little coaxing
>> and away we went. We bored holes all through the sky looking at the horizon
>> in every direction. Only a few high cirrus clouds around. Beautiful smooth
>> air made for a really enjoyable flight followed by a baby butt smooth
>> landing. Look out Florida we are coming your way!!!
>> 
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Stevens Point, WI
>> 
>> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
>> Web: www.flykr2s.com
>> 
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KR> Tire size

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Not sure but might try Coker Tire? 
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 19:58, Robert Pesak via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for a low profile tire that will fit a 5 inch wheel. Does anyone 
> have a name of a company that manufactures this tire.
> 
> 
> 
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KR> 2015 Gathering photos, link enclosed

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark?.  Thanks for the tour?. looked like a great Gathering and also enjoyed 
the tour of the Museum?. have been there a few years ago but needed the update? 
jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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> On Oct 10, 2015, at 07:06, Mark Langford via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> My 2015 Gathering photos are at http://www.krnet.org/mmv/.  Sorry this took 
> so long...it's the usual excuses.  There are a few Evergreen Aircraft and 
> Space Museum photos included at the end, but hopefully I can add more later, 
> time permitting.  I have a lot more.
> -- 

KR> KR Organization

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Tho? not a KR builder, I do think Mark?s comments are most valuable?.  from 
experience, an ongoing organization must have a solid base and not all 
responsibility on one or a few?  this guarantees a continuation of the groups 
needs and desires?  

I gain so much information just watching the site, i would hope that a base be 
established? Just my 2 cents worth.. jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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> On Sep 11, 2015, at 09:48, Mark Langford via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> For the enquiring minds regarding the establishment of a KR Organization, 
> nothing has been decided, but this has been a topic of off-line discussion 
> for the last few years.  What brought it to the front burner at the Gathering 
> was several independent discussions that evolved into a group discussion, 
> which we eventually brought up to the whole group.  What we have in mind is a 
> group that's not hinged on just one or two people, but has a real structure, 
> a bank account, accountability of funds, a steering committee, and a 
> committee to choose Gathering sites...basically a system of go

KR> Gathering

[Joe Davis]

A big thanks to all involved with hosting the gathering. For those who 
couldn't attend you were missed. Charlie Joe Davis

KR> Fuel Capacity

[Joe. E. Wallace]

However, relief tubes do not require dumping?!

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

> 
> about to be exceeded, there is a nifty thing called a "bladder tank".  
> These tanks can be either permanently installed or temporarily installed.

KR> Sanding

[Joe. E. Wallace]

For those of you that are sanding, remember I have lots of sandpaper in 50 yd 
rolls?.  24 36and some 60 grit for getting to the heavy stuff?.  give 
me your needs and will price as before?.  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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KR> fuel line through the spar caps?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Sid for the numbers?.  I am using a 3/8 fuel line via a pump to feed the 
TBFI system? jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Aug 10, 2015, at 14:21, Sid Wood via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> FAA document AC 90-89A (now superseded by AC 90-89B) SECTION 11. ADDITIONAL 
> ENGINE TESTS, paragraph 1.e. Fuel Flow and Unusable Fuel Check: states the 
> method to determine the fuel flow needed by amateur built aircraft.
> At the airworthiness inspection for my KR-2 the FAA inspector wanted to see 
> the data and pictures of the tests that I did to determine the actual fuel 
> flow.  For pressurized systems (using a fuel pump) the flow must be at least 
> 1.25 times the WOT requirement and setting at 5 degrees above the maximum 
> angle of attack and minimum fuel in the tank.   For gravity feed systems the 
> number is 1.50 times the WOT requirement.  For engine driven fuel pumps, that 
> may require some creative plumbing for the test.  I used a quart catch jar 
> and timed (in seconds) to fill it.  Put a shut off valve on the end of the 
> hose so you or your assistant can control the start and stop flow into the 
> jar.  I used 3/8-inch tubing for all fuel lines.  My flow numbers were 21 
> gal/hr for the engine pump and 23 gal/hr for the Facet pump.  Those numbers 
> are way over the minimum requirements.  Don't know what 1/4-inch tubing would 
> yield.
> Since my KR-2 has both an electric Facet and engine driven fuel pumps and two 
> fuel tanks, the tests had to be repeated 4 times to measure all line-ups.
> Handling a fuel hose behind an invisible meat chopper in hurricane force 
> winds does present some hazards to your health.  A calibrated inline fuel 
> flow meter will vastly simplify making the measurements.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> --
> Good Info Brian?  my plans were to mount it lower than the wing cells?.  so 
> I?m okay there?  Also transferring to main tank but by 1/4? lines?.. then 
> return overflow to one wing cell again via 1/4 ?   Considering more volume 
> under pump pressure than gravity flow overflow to wing? I would appreciate 
> any comments on line size.. or am I being to engineered?  jw
> 
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 16:27, brian.kraut--- via KRnet  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Keep those Facet pumps low.  They don't do good with pulling a prime
>> uphill which I learned on my aux wing tanks transferring to the header
>> tank.  I originally had my pump mounted on the back side of the header
>> tank, but I moved it down low on a doubler on the front of the spar when
>> I had an issue with it not sucking up a prime.
>> 
>> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: KR> fuel line through the spar caps?
>> From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
>> Date: Fri, August 07, 2015 11:27 am
>> To: KRnet 
>> Cc: ppaulvsk 
>> 
>> I wasn't planning on going to the spar cap. Just the center of the web.
>> After the holes are drilled.  I'm putting a 1/8" plywood doubler over
>> them.Then run the tube threw it. Like what Mark said. My goal is to keep
>> the fuek coming out of the  tanks in the same plain befor going though
>> the firewall to the duel Facet pumps. Larry, there is a horizontal brace
>> on the back side of the spar and my floor covers the front side. Like
>> most KR-2S
>> 
> 
> 
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KR> fuel line through the spar caps?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Good Info Brian?  my plans were to mount it lower than the wing cells?.  so I?m 
okay there?  Also transferring to main tank but by 1/4? lines?.. then return 
overflow to one wing cell again via 1/4 ?   Considering more volume under pump 
pressure than gravity flow overflow to wing? I would appreciate any comments on 
line size.. or am I being to engineered?  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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> On Aug 8, 2015, at 16:27, brian.kraut--- via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Keep those Facet pumps low.  They don't do good with pulling a prime
> uphill which I learned on my aux wing tanks transferring to the header
> tank.  I originally had my pump mounted on the back side of the header
> tank, but I moved it down low on a doubler on the front of the spar when
> I had an issue with it not sucking up a prime.
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: KR> fuel line through the spar caps?
> From: ppaulvsk via KRnet 
> Date: Fri, August 07, 2015 11:27 am
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: ppaulvsk 
> 
> I wasn't planning on going to the spar cap. Just the center of the web.
> After the holes are drilled.  I'm putting a 1/8" plywood doubler over
> them.Then run the tube threw it. Like what Mark said. My goal is to keep
> the fuek coming out of the  tanks in the same plain befor going though
> the firewall to the duel Facet pumps. Larry, there is a horizontal brace
> on the back side of the spar and my floor covers the front side. Like
> most KR-2S
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KR> Bulkhead fuel fittings

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark

Thanks for the picts and brings a query to my mind?  I?m building a different 
airplane using a Geo 1,3 L engine converted to TBFI?.  I had planned on 1/4 in 
fuel lines that bring fuel from the wing tanks to a Facet pump that delivers to 
the main? no connection from wing tanks to engine demand?  Would like anyones 
opinion on line size?  jw

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> On Aug 7, 2015, at 14:31, Mark Jones via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Take a look at how I did mine. I have had no problems and have 500 flight 
> hours.
> http://flykr2s.com/facetpumps.html
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> 
> 
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KR> Engine miss

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Mike for the exceptional tech talk?.  this is why I follow this site so 
directly?.  Thanks again?jw
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> On May 25, 2015, at 00:25, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> I've had a miss in the secondary ignition for awhile and didn't know
> which cylinder was missing.  I haven't been too concerned about tracking
> it down since normally both the mag and the electronic ignition systems
> are on and the engine runs smooth as silk.  I finally decided to address
> this mystery today and figured it would be easy with my laser thermometer
> to run the 

KR> Electronics...Compass

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks again lots of good info... jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:36, dfeiger via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> Use brass screws/bolts/nuts and fabricate equipment boxes out of aluminum. 
> Not too much in the way of steel stuff near the panel in the KRs.  Cheers.
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KR> Electronics ???

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thank you both for the comeback  i feel much better now as I won't have to 
change my panel Thanks again...  WOW, what a site for information!  

Joe. E. Wallace
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> On Apr 18, 2015, at 02:02, Adam Tippin via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> On commercial jets, we have to do the compass swing twice. Once with all 
> avionics on. and once with essentials. 
> we document the data on a plate just under the compass showing the deviations 
> in Degrees.
> Our deviation max is 5 deg.
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Gene Essman via KRnet > list.krnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> When you swing the compass, turn everything on that will be running in
>> flight, the compass will move to its' NEW normal and set it to that.  You're
>> just proving you are smarter than magnets and linseed oil. Of course I'm as
>> dumb as linseed oil so take it for what it cost you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, I need the best of experience and knowledge  I have a panel done
>> and ready to install  someone advised that the compass,  which is in the
>> top middle of all the rest, Elec T, voltmeter, gas gauges, pump
>> switches,(2) , water temp, all electric , would not operate correctly
>> with all the adjacent electrical connections???   Well DUH, why didn't I
>> think of that   Need some answers... jw
>> 
> 
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KR> Electronics ???

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Okay, I need the best of experience and knowledge  I have a panel done and 
ready to install  someone advised that the compass,  which is in the top 
middle of all the rest, Elec T, voltmeter, gas gauges, pump switches,(2) , 
water temp, all electric , would not operate correctly with all the 
adjacent electrical connections???   Well DUH, why didn't I think of that   
Need some answers... jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Incredible Flying Skills

[Joe. E. Wallace]

> 
> 
> Paul said; This gives me some ideas for my first flight. : )
> 
> 
> To hang in the air like that, you would need about 300HP and a 8' prop
> AND A VERY LARGE PAIR OF B---s  No Thank you  
> 

Joe Wallace

KR> finishing up

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Beautiful airplane?..  and extremely neat work? Congratulations jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Landing speeds

[Joe Nunley]

Dear Colin,

If the weather is good, I fly about 3 to 4 times a week.  I fly with my
"other"plane out of the 1200 foot strip.  I have been testing different
landing techniques in preparation for the completion of my KR2.  I have
found that the technique that you describe, "push the stick forward to pin
the aircraft on the ground, ride the bumps, I can see clearly and you
balance the aircraft on brakes and rudder and slowly have to push more
forward as the speed bleeds off",  is the technique that I believe to be
the most viable option. One reason it appears viable is that  I spend less
time floating and more time slowing down.  A given touchdown speed gives a
fairly consistent landing distance taking wind and weight as variables. I
can duplicate landings consistently and so far safely.  I have found that,
for me, I use 70 MPH instead of your 80 MPH, 70 MPH is still
a controllable speed and I only have 1200 feet.  Everything else seems
about the same.  Thank you for sharing.

I greatly appreciate everyone's input and value their opinion.  This is a
fantastic group.

thanks,

Joe


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:11 PM, colin hales via KRnet  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJuTyf2sJc
> Hi all,
> I've been reading the messages about landing and approach speeds. I've
> read some quite scary stuff. I don't like posting on here because all you
> get is shot down and people tell you what you are doing is dangerous. So
> I've hardly ever quoted or responded because everything is "Each to their
> own!"
> Attached is a link to a video I posted on youtube recently about such
> events and approaches. I'm not saying anyone should copy what I do, in case
> of litigation. I'm also going to say what I don't do and the reasons why I
> don't do them. That is all gents. Enjoy... Remember, I'm not telling anyone
> how to do it. This is just food for thought.
> This only works for a taildragger of course. For a nose gear plane I'd do
> similar, except I'd ride a little less forward pressure, a lot of back
> pressure to save the nose wheel, is really not a good idea. if you hit a
> hump, the plane can take off again at low speed and that is going to hurt.
> Now you have a high angle of attack and little control-ability, no
> visibility and can all end up in tears. But with forward pressure, yes it
> may get airborne over a hump, but you are at the right angle of attack to
> place down again gently, you have some back pressure effect left, there is
> no chance of it climbing high. So I always go for very little back
> pressure. If anyone disagrees, remember, don't reply, I do not care, I'm
> just telling you what I do.
> So in the video are different approaches in my KR2. 1st is Vagar on the
> Faeroe Isles after descending around some cloud at about 1.30 seconds in.
> 2nd TKM on Iceland a 500 meter grass strip, 3rd Kulusuk a gravel strip in
> Greenland, 4th  Nuuk International on a man made hill, 5th in a hurry to
> land at Sanderson USA and final arriving at Oshkosh.
> Normal decent speed is 120 mph, circuit 100 mph over the fence 80 mph
> touch down 60 mph tail down 20 mph. I wheel on for good visibility and
> better control, three point landings are a no no, you loose all vision and
> can end up floating. Landing at any speed close to the stall is a stupid
> idea, can causes the aircraft to fall out of the sky uncontrollably and
> bounce all over the place. I've never heard of anyone landing an aircraft
> close to the stall speed, it just is scary to read even scarier to do.
> My Kr2 stalls at 42 mph reliably, I land or hope to at about 60 mph and
> push the stick forward to pin the aircraft on the ground, ride the bumps, I
> can see clearly and you balance the aircraft on brakes and rudder and
> slowly have to push more forward as the speed bleeds off and the elevator
> looses effect until the tail drops at about 20 mph, when everything has
> come to a virtual stop anyway.
> I have tried to three point KR2 and lots of other aircraft, it just feels
> wrong and a very poor method. Wheeling Kr2s on is easy, you just fly
> towards the ground, parallel the ground till the wheels touch, catch the
> tail, job done...
> The short approach to the grass strip technique is to hit the end of the
> runway at 60 mph and hard on the brakes. That runway was 500 meters long
> 1,500 feet and I had 100 meters to go when I pulled over. If you go in slow
> and un-sighted because of a high angle of attack, you can end up floating
> along when you should be on the ground slowing down.
> I see No need for complicated flaps or air brakes, spoilers or belly
> boards and actuators, you just close the throttle and it virtually stops in
> the air, 100 mph to touchdown speed in about 4 seconds. If in a hurry as I
> was on the approach to Sanderson you can

KR> food for the soul

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark and those that live in the Land of the Frozen?..  Me too?   I have a 
couple hangar doors one overhead and another bi-fold?. for the ice problem that 
freezes the door down, I have installed a heat tape like those that are 
installed around water pipes in the hollow seal at the bottom of the door?.  
pulled it through with a tape wire and installed the blank end on one end and 
the controller on the other hooked up to a long drop cord that travels with the 
door and yet reaches the plug in?  electricity usage about like t 30 watt bulb? 
 it has always kept the seal from freezing down? still have to move the snow or 
ice just outside?  a bit difference Mark cause I?m in Iowa not Wisc or Minn?  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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KR> Tail wheel spring

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Good to have you back Steve !  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Jan 28, 2015, at 07:55, Steve G. via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> The only spring we have at the moment is old stock of the original plans 
> spring. It is marginal at best unless used on very light KR's. 
> 
> I haven't been in the office or at the hangar since I turned the website back 
> on. Thought I was going to have a few weeks to catch up but had construction 
> projects that needed to begin before planned. 
> 
> Steve Glover

KR> Hours to build?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Brian,

Your position now sounds like a good deal to change wives  :) 

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Jan 26, 2015, at 20:30, brian.kraut--- via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> When I first moved to Jackaonville and started a new job one of my
> co-workers was building a beautiful KR in his one room efficiency
> converted from a two car garage at his parents house.  I thought that
> being able to eat and sleep in the same room as the KR project gave him
> enough cool factor to outweigh still living in his parents garage.  Of
> course, I also built my 2S spars on the living room floor with plastic
> under them to keep the epoxy off the carpet when my ex was away for a
> week.  New wife would kill me if I did that now, but she let me buy a
> house and hanger at an airpark which makes her the best wife ever.
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2015 5:44 PM, Mark Wegmet via KRnet wrote:
>> I take a lot of heat from co-workers because I have an airplane in progress
>> in my living room... of course I'm single, so (as they say) your mileage may
>> vary.
>> 
>> Mark W.
>> N952MW
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Prata
>> via KRnet
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:56 PM
>> To: Rob Schmitt; krnet at list.krnet.org
>> Subject: Re: KR> Hours to build?
>> 
>> This is great to get these totals.
>> I do plan to buy the wing skins. Probably fab everything else per the
>> original way.
>> A full time job is 2000 hours per year.
>> Robert, 1500 hours is on the low side of these times. Did you use any prefab
>> parts like wing skins? what was ur experience prior to starting to build the
>> KR? and why would you say you were faster than others? skill, work
>> environment, tools?
>> My current house doesnt have a garage. I do have a 20x30 fabric hangar at
>> the airport but it's three season due to the bottom has to be open for wind
>> compliance (which makes it complaint to over 100MPH winds). Of course there
>> is nothing stopping me from (I JUST realized!!!) building a 16x20 work shed
>> INSIDE my hangar, and heat it with a herosene heater or something to get 4
>> seasons out of it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> CC: chrisprata at live.com
>>> From: robert7721 at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: KR> Hours to build?
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:11:06 -0600
>>> To: gary769rv at verizon.net; krnet at list.krnet.org
>>> 
>>> 1500 hours, less than $15k with basic instruments and used Revmaster VW.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Gary via KRnet 
>> wrote:
>>>> hour & $$$
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Prata via KRnet  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Min 1500 hours, $29k and counting but with new o200 & glass panel.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here's another noob question. How many hours does a KR1 take to build? I
>> know it can really vary, but I'm hoping a few answers will come through and
>> give me a ball park.
>>>> Magazines used to say you could build one for $400, in about 40 hours,
>> and it would go supersonic. But now we have almost 50 years on the design
>> (can you BELIEVE that!) so realistic numbers are avail.
>>>> OH, what kind of $$$ have builders spent in recent build?
>>>> KR2 info ok too, they are prob similar ballpark $ and time.
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KR> Abrasive Tape

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Joe?..  for the words on the abrasive tape?.  I still have more to go?.  
jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Jan 22, 2015, at 06:38, cruzj12--- via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
>  I wanted to pass this on to anyone interested in purchasing this sand paper 
> on a roll. I am very pleased with it eventhough the shipping costs are up 
> there and  it's more than I need ,  it's a great buy. Joe Cruz
> cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
> KR1.5 N3151K
> KR2S builder 
> 
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:12 AM, cruzj12--- via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have the money order to send you. I'm going to my barn to see if It's on 
> the box of tape. Just in case I don't have it can you email it back to me? 
> thanks,Joe Joe Cruz
> cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
> KR1.5 N3151K
> KR2S builder 
> 
> On Friday, November 28, 2014 4:33 PM, Joe. E. Wallace via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
>   
> 
> Thanks Mark for the words on the tape...  I know the shipping is a bit much, 
> but I just want to move this from my inventory...  jw
> 
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
> 
> 
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KR> finally as promised

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Larry

Beautiful flight?..thanks for the ride? jw

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> On Jan 16, 2015, at 20:51, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> As long ago promised and with my daughters aid, I have posted to youtube the 
> video of the KR flight with the camera on the belly by the tailwheel.  Twelve 
> minutes of video was cut to three.  Enjoy...
> 
> http://youtu.be/cgdgxVgPNAk

KR> Flaps versus belly board versus spoilers

[Joe Nunley]

I would place spoilers on the winglets to not interfere with control
surfaces.

Joe
On Jan 13, 2015 3:35 PM, "chrisprata via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Have spoilers been installed and used on a KR1?
>
> Where? Outer or inner wing? Do spoilers blanket ailerons with turbulent
> air?
>
> On apch, I wonder if you'd pull the nose up when spoilers deployed to
> create a 'dirty' configuration?
>
> Anyone here running spoilers and or belly brake? Pics?
>
> Thx
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>  Original message From: bjoenunley via
> KRnet  Date:01/13/2015  4:27 PM
> (GMT-05:00) To: Ronald Wright via KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> Flaps versus belly board versus spoilers
> 
> 
> I like the spoiler concept. Easy to install. Between a belly board and
> spoilers we should stop in a hurry.
>
> My question is; do we put holes in the spoilers to make them more
> efficient or not?
>
> Just kidding about the holes,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>  Original message From: Ronald Wright via
> KRnet  Date:01/13/2015  3:10 PM
> (GMT-06:00) To: Chris Prata ,KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> Subject: KR> Flaps versus belly board
> versus spoilers 
> The KRs really need SPOILERS..  They are much better than flaps and
> a lot easier to build/install.  Close a spoiler and you are instantly
> flying again.  Dump a flap and you sink first and then get to climb again.
> Personally, I love spoilers!
>
> Ron
>
>
> 
> On Tue, 1/13/15, Chris Prata via KRnet  wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: KR> TriGear?
> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 2:11 PM
>
> Flaps?  Are they fairly easy to
> build in and are they effective?  Also wondering about
> the Belly Brake option. This design is slippery, I'd love to
> have another choice manage the energy on approach besides a
> forward slip or slowing down way back at the start of
> downwind. I'd rather have the energy the whole time, and be
> able to brake on final.
>
> From: danrh at windstream.net
> To: chrisprata at live.com;
> krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: RE: KR> TriGear?
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:59:25 -0500
>
> You may be mistaken about the one less thing.  My
> opinion is that it is one more thing to go wrong.  I
> have never heard of a broken tail wheel causing a serious
> accident, but certainly have heard of several where the nose
> wheel broke.  A fixed gear KR1 would be a very simple
> machine to fly, especially if you could add flaps. See N64KR
> at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> 2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR.  September 3 - 6
> -- See U There. Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt.
> Vernon, Il ? MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt.
> Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in
> Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in
> Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR
> Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN  Best Interior and
> Panel at 2008 ? KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC  -Original
> Message-
>
> Trigear would mean one less thing that can go
>
>
>
>
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KR> Tank Sealant

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks all for the info on tank sealant?.  will probably use o-rngs + Proseal? 
jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Sealant

[Joe. E. Wallace]

KR Group, First of all Happy New Year to all. 

 I?m in the process of building a different airplane, but have followed this 
site for a long time.  Way too much good info to stay away.  I have a need to 
find a suitable sealant to put around the fittings that are installed in 
plastic ?? fuel tanks.  there is a aluminum fitting that is held in the tank 
wall or base with a large washer and nut, also a small rubber o-ring that is 
squeezed between the washer and the tank .  Seems a bit fragile to me and 
wondering if I can?t strenthen the seal with a semi-liquid sealant that would 
stand up to the fuel?  I can?t find a caulking or sealant that is resistant to 
fuel?  any ideas? tnx  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Belly Board

[Joe Nunley]

RE: Multi-holes drilled air brake : any good ?

I just spoke to my flying buddy, Carl "Flaps" Laffert, 84, who flew both
the SBD Dauntless during WW II with the Marine Corps from Mindanao. He also
flew the Curtiss SB2C Helldiver. He told me the perforations create more
drag. They were first used in the US on the Northrop (a Douglas division at
the time) A-17, built for the Army. It had 3-section flaps, one under each
wing and one in the center. These were on the bottom only, not split as on
the Dauntless. The Army didn't like dive bombers so Douglas built the
Dauntless for the Navy with the split dive flaps/brakes.

He said the first version on the Helldiver had "smooth" flaps (as he called
them) and the dive speed was 315 knots. On a later version they perforated
then like on the Dauntless and at the same dive angle, the dive speed was
285 kts.

Story by Ed Moorman, Shalimar Fl, 553, Former R/C Report Fun Aerobatics
Columnist. 76 and up to my old tricks!

Also found this;
Abstract

Measurements are described of the drag coefficient of porous circular
cylinders (60% open-area ratio) fixed between solid hemispherical end caps,
for five values of aspect ratio between 7.92 and 2.67. The Reynolds number
varies between 104 and 2.6 ? 105. It is found that the drag coefficient
increases with aspect ratio much as a solid cylinder's but its drag
coefficient is about 20% higher (varying between 0.88 to 0.96 as the aspect
ratio is increased).

Flow-visualization experiments have also been conducted, and show how fluid
passes through the cylinders and how the vortex shedding is weaker than for
solid cylinders.

Although based on a cylinder and not flat plate.

Joe
On Dec 25, 2014 9:54 PM, "bjoenunley"  wrote:

> I'm going with a solid belly board.  I'm no aerodynamic engineer,  but I
> can't image more deflection than with a solid piece.
>
> Joe
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Dan via KRnet
> Date:12/25/2014 7:23 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: 'KRnet'
> Subject: KR> Belly Board
>
> Can't get into the archives so here's my question.  Holes or no Holes?  I'm
> getting ready to install the belly board and before I do I would like to
> get
> some feedback.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Dan Prichard
>
> Portland, Or.
>
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KR> Another poem for my friends in KR land by a friend of mine who flies a Vari-Eze.

[Joe Nunley]

"Once man has tasted flight,
he will walk the earth with his eyes turned skyward,
for there he has been and there he longs to return."

DaVinci

Godspeed,

Joe

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Parley T Byington via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Merry Christmas to all my fellow kr owners and pilots.
>
> Thanks and fly safely especially when exclaiming ?YIPPEE? at all those
> poor earthbound souls!
>
> Parley Byington
> N54PB  Kr-2
> byington1954 at embarqmail.com
> Henderson Nevada 89015
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: "Kenneth R. Mintz" 
> > Subject: Re: KR> poem
> > Date: December 24, 2014 at 10:48:47 AM PST
> > To: Parley T Byington 
> >
> > Back at you.  I wrote this for myself in Germany back in the day after
> the Fern winds briefly cleared the skies of the ever present mist all the
> way to the Alps.  What mind portrait that made from 1 feet!
> >
> > Solo
> >
> > Oh, I have born myself aloft
> > On roaring engine and lifting wings
> > And felt the steady wind song, soft,
> > Free my heart from earthbound things.
> >
> > Topped, I have, the curling mists
> > And watched a snow-white plain unfurl,
> > Gazed in silent awe and bliss
> > Upon the mountains above the World.
> >
> > Touched, I have, some gentle clouds
> > And taking the inward view
> > My soaring mind has laughed aloud
> > To see a childhood dream come true!
> >
> > Drifted, I have, in the bright sun light
> > And skimmed through the crystal air.
> > Alone at last in solo flight,
> > I've shed some burden there.
> >
> > Author, Kenneth R. Mintz
> > Written some time in the spring of 1973 in the skies over Munich,
> Germany.
> >
> >
> > Merry Christmas to All!  May your altitude, attitude and airspeed all
> match up for many safe landings in the next year!  (Remember, take offs are
> optional...)
> >
> > Uncle Ken
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Parley T Byington <
> byington1954 at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This poem expresses the joy I have had with my little KR-2 for the past
> 22 years, and also the sadness for all you out there who have never enjoyed
> the sensation of building and flying your own airplane.
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas to all my friends and family.
> >>
> >> Parley
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Flesner via KRnet 
> >>> Subject: KR> poem
> >>> Date: December 24, 2014 at 5:45:39 AM PST
> >>> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> >>> Reply-To: Flesner , KRnet  >>> list.krnet.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This poem is from all the pilots flying their KR's and know how must
> fun lines in store fir those still building.
> >>>
> >>> Merry Christmas. Larry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Christmas Eve at the Airport
> >>>
> >>> On the eve before Christmas all KR?s in the land  (Clip)
>
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KR> poem

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Another good one that will live in my archives Thanks Larry and a Very 
Merry Christmas to you and yours...  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Merry Christmas to all

[Joe Nunley]

My first time hearing that AMAZING poem!

Joe
On Dec 23, 2014 2:12 PM, "Flesner via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> 'Twas the Day Before Christmas
>
> 'Twas the day before Christmas and out on the ramp
> Sat a little KR, a mischievous scamp
> He should be in his hangar or so he was told
> But he just had to see what the day would behold
>
> He'd heard of this fellow all dressed up in red
> He was told there were reindeer that powered his sled
> He couldn't believe that a sleigh could take wing
> He'd been born in a shop where logic was king
>
> With patience he sat there till day turned to night
> And that's when he saw it, a twinkle of light
> It seemed headed his way and it gave him a chill
> When he heard what seemed thunder just over the hill
>
> The rumble got louder, he was frozen in stare
> There were thirty six hooves all pounding the air
> There was anti-collision that flashed on the nose
> And the elf shook with laughter from his head to his toes
>
> He was headed down final, you could tell by his grin
> That he didn't fly patterns and he landed downwind
> He knew KR waited so he stopped for a chat
> They talked as he dusted the snow from his hat
>
> Too soon they were leaving they were off in a leap
> They were picking up speed and climbing out steep
> They flew straight as an arrow and it's only a guess
> That Rudolph was using his new GPS
>
> And then it was over they were all out of site
> And he couldn't believe what was told him that night
> He rolled back to the hangar but the invite was clear
> "If you install an aux tank you can join me next year"
>
> YEE HA
>
>  Larry Flesner  12/24/2005
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KR> Merry Christmas to all

[Joe. E. Wallace]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ALLL YEAR About to mention that the site 
needed it  Thanks...makes my Christmas... jw

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> On Dec 23, 2014, at 14:12, Flesner via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> 
> 

KR> Last of the newsletters, Quarterly newsletters, brake update

[Joe Nunley]

Aircraft Spruce has Cheng Shin 11x4.0-5 tires in 6 ply and 8 ply. What ply
do you have or recommend?

Joe
On Dec 21, 2014 8:42 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Joe Nunley wrote:
>
> > I have been looking for wheels and brakes,  good timing Mark
>
> I would get some Matco internal caliper brakes, or some similar Grove
> Brakes.  Clevelands are double the price, and if you kill a caliper (for
> example by ripping the bleeder out on the edge of the taxiway...don't ask
> how I know) it'll cost several hundred dollars just to replace the
> caliper.  You'll also want the smaller 11x4.00x5 Lamb or Cheng Shin tires,
> rather than the 5.00x5's, which are unnecessarily large for a KR...draggy
> and heavy, unless you plan to land on river sand bars, which would be
> insane in a KR.
>
> See some more info on brakes at http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html, but I
> wouldn't buy Clevelands again.  I now have Matcos for N891JF, and they are
> functionally identical but far cheaper.  Not installed on it yet, but
> working on it...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
>
>
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KR> Last of the newsletters, Quarterly newsletters, brake update

[Joe Nunley]

I have been looking for wheels and brakes,  good timing Mark.  I will also
purchase my engine tomorrow. A Honda L 1.5 from the Fit. Inspired by the
Viking 100 hp auto conversion engine . I could really use some PSRU plans.

Merry Christmas!

Joe
On Dec 21, 2014 1:47 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
> KRnetHeads,
>
> Sure is quiet lately!  Too cold to work on KRs, and too busy shopping or
> making Christmas presents anyway, I'm guessing.  Same here.  But I have
> managed up update the N891JF brake website with some photos though, and
> updated the newsletter page with links to the last installments.
>
> See http://www.n56ml.com/n891jf/brakes/ for the brake update and
> http://www.krnet.org/newsletter/ for the final batch (NL6) and the
> Quarterly Newsletters, which are equally useful.  There's a lot of good
> stuff in these things.
>
> Now, off to the airport...
>
> --
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
>
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KR> Abrasive Tape for Sale

[Joe. E. Wallace]

KR Group

I recently noted on this site that I had some abrasive tape for sale?.  $15.00 
per roll the rolls are 50 Yds long by 3 ? wide?.  some have adhesive back?  I 
realize that is a lot of tape however, I have no problem with shipping a roll 
or so to a group that would like to split it?  I am finding the shipping cost 
is between $20.00 - $35.00 depending on the distance? UPS seems to be the least 
expensive.  I would like to sell my inventory to make room for other things so 
e-mail or call 1 641 7456 7837 at your convenience.  You give me your shipping 
address, the number of rolls,  the grit size you want 24, 36, 60 I get a quote 
for shipping and with your approval it goes the next day?  jw


Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> Engine Shipping

[Joe Nunley]

Dear Folks,

I am looking to ship an aircraft engine.  What have you found to be the
best way to ship. The engine is on a pallet.

Thank you,

Joe

KR> Jabiru's in Kr2s.

[Joe Nunley]

You mentioned that you don't have a speed break or flaps. What is your
landing distance on concrete and grass?

Joe
On Nov 30, 2014 3:27 PM, "colin hales via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
> Hi all,
> A couple of things. First, I'm too busy, articles, video editing, things
> are getting neglected, like my parents and friends. Lots to do before I
> return to America in January. My own fault so I try not to complain.
> I read a lot of the comments on Krnet.
> There seem to be a few repeating issues that I thought  would reply to.
> Engine reliability.
> Non of them are. I wouldn't expect any light aircraft engine to do more
> than 500 hours without a good look over. I looked at one of my exhaust
> valves while repairing a leaking exhaust gasket. It looked rough, hardend
> plating corroded and cracked at base at 300 hours. I replace my exhaust
> valves each 300 hours now. If you don't, they will brake, or stick or both.
> Temps are vital, it took a long time to make sure my engine doesn't even
> get hot.
> Its not really the engine or designers fault. Its operating conditions,
> operators and maintenance. I've read many of the reports of the jabiru
> engine failures and sort of knew why most of them had happened.
> Lets get real. The Jabiru engine has had next to know research or
> development. During the early days, the owners were doing it. I learnt
> quickly about 5 vital things to look after my Jabiru, by seeing what
> happened to the operating parameters, temps pressures when various
> operating conditions were applied. None of them have ever been added to any
> news letter or information advice from the manufacturer and I've given up
> telling people now. No one listens.I even was asked to write an article for
> our society about Jabiru engines. I entitled it, "Jabiru engines and what
> they won't tell you about them!" Highlighting about 10 issues, 5 I though
> vital for safe operation of the Jabiru engine. They never published it,said
> it was too inflammatory and open to the layers...
> I know people will now say that they have had thousands of trouble free
> use from their engines, well all I can say to that is that , you are either
> a diligent operator and maintainer, or you have been lucky.
> The Rotax engine had a lot more development thrown at it, and you have to
> pay for that in the cost of the thing. Get what you pay for... The Jabiru
> engine is expensive as well, that's because you are paying for a decent
> power to weight ratio. That's all.
> Its no good really. Its still too delicate. I use it though, but monitor
> it and all four egt and cht parameters rigorously and check heads and
> tappet clearances for signs of change or deformation regularly. Seems to
> keep going. But I don't like it. I would love to buy one and not have to
> think it was ever going to quit for 2,000 hours as they say, but its a
> joke... Not funny when they do break and seemingly they do. Anyway...
> Next, speed brakes. A KR needs to be light and none complicated if it is
> going to perform well. I haven't got flaps or a speed brake. You don't need
> them. People keep saying that "They float!" How? Its got tiny wings! The
> problem mostly seems to be that people need a high throttle position to
> keep their poorly idling engines going on the ground at say, 700 rpm. This
> unfortunately turns into about 1,400 rpm in the air. No wonder it floats,
> thats still about 1/4 throttle. If you remove the idle stop for your engine
> all together, if you close the throttle completely, it now acts like a
> exhaust brake. The engine will never stop in the air, it just windmills at
> 500 rpm causing massive drag and the aircraft stops and falls out the sky.
> When you land and the idle gets lower as they airspeed decreases, just
> crack a little throttle back on. So don't worry about how many holes to put
> in your speed brake, save yourself a lot of time and weight and
> complication and use the prop as a brake instead. This only works if you
> have a starter motor, I've accidentally let it stop once or twice out on
> the taxi way. But its safer too. No panic trying to find mag switches or
> trying to turn mags switch keys, if a dog runs out, as has happened to me.
> Just pull the throttle, which your hand is on anyway and it stops.
> More ways to skin a cat, which is a funny saying we have here. I'm not
> telling anyone anything or want any reply or discussion with this message.
> I'm just saying what I do and saying that if you haven't tried it, give it
> a go. If it works for you too, brill, if not well, I reckon holes add to
> drag. About 20 two inch holes should do.
> Keep an eye on those engines, if you have a worry, you are probably right
> and you should take a look, it never hurts.
> Best regards,

KR> Trimming the firewall

[Joe Nunley]

Hey Larry,

Is that an 0200 engine in your plane?  How does it fly?

Joe Nunley
On Nov 28, 2014 2:30 PM, "Flesner via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>I'm curious if anybody has setback the edge of the plywood a little to
>> except the cowling edge or just fill the fuselage up to meet the cowling
>> edge.?  Paul Visk Belleville
>>
>
> 
> 
>
> Finish the firewall to the fuselage edge.  The cowl will be inset the
> thickness of the cowl so the outside edge of the cowl is in line with the
> fuselage side, basically a butt joint.  At least that's how I did mine.
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8737.jpg Best photo I
> could find at the moment.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> Abrasive Tape

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Mark for the words on the tape...  I know the shipping is a bit much, 
but I just want to move this from my inventory...  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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KR> Abrasive Tape for sale

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Info for the KR group or anyone needing abrasive cloth in tape form

I have rolls of abrasive tape on cloth backing available in 24 grit, 36 grit 
and 60 grit.  These rolls are 50 yds long and 3 " wide.  Some have adhesive 
back but not all.  I'm not sure due to age if the adhesive is still good, 
however the abrasive side is fine.  I do have one roll of 36 grit that is only 
2 " wide.  I will sell each roll for $15.00 plus UPS shipping.  I find shipping 
cost from $20.00 to $35.00 depending on the distance, as I am located in SW 
Iowa.   Please e-mail me or call 641 745 7837 if this product will fit your 
needs ... Probably could be used attached to a long 1 x 4 for sanding foam 
wingsThanks.

jw

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KR> Grass Runway

[Joe Nunley]

Of those who fly their KR2 off of a grass runway;  what distance to take
off and land, tail wheel or tri gear, engine type and horse power if you
please.

My hanger is on a grass strip.  Want to be able to take off and land at my
home field.

Thank you!

Joe Nunley

KR> (no subject)

[Joe Nunley]

I was at SERFI. Where were the KR2's?  I was hoping to find someone to talk
to about them.

Joe Nunley
On Oct 26, 2014 5:52 PM, "Flesner via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>
> A friend of mine won  Contemporary Champion   with his Piper PA22, N8430D
> at the SERFI at Evergreen today.  He met someone that said they know me.
> O.K., somebody fess up.  Who was it???  He said it was KR related and
> they had attended the Mt.Vernon Gathering.
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Nvaero

[Joe. E. Wallace]

KUDOS to you Steve..  Tho' I am not building a KR, I enjoy the site and 
Hats off to you, I like the way you think... jw
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On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:35, Steve G. via KRnet  wrote:

> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> "Mark" wrote
> 
>> Let's face it...KR builders are the world's cheapest aircraft builders by
> definition.  >You don't go into the KR business with any hope of making a
> profit...you do it to >support other builders.
> 
>  
> Yeah, I've just about had enough I don't day much on here because A - I
> don't have time for the BS and B - I don't always have nice things to say.
> Please do not mistake my "good natured demeanor" as internet courage, I can
> assure you it is not.  If you meet me I am very congenial and play well with
> others until someone decides to change the rules. Then stand by...  

KR> Nvaero

[Joe Davis]

On 09/02/2014 05:43 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
>
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
> Well said !!!
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KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k

[Joe]

Now $800

Grab it while you can!!

850-284-7440

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From: "jose.fuentes at gmail.com" 
Sent: ?7/?8/?2014 12:42 PM
To: "Joe" ; "Dene via KRnet" 
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k

NOW $900


Come get a deal


dark7622 at yahoo.com
850-284-7440 cell


Joe



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From: Joe
Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?July? ?2?, ?2014 ?10?:?34? ?AM
To: Joe, Dene via KRnet


1k total not parting out, wing skins are worth it and you get a bunch of spare 
parts.

Make offer

Joe


From: Joe
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To: jose.fuentes at gmail.com; KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k


Also, I am located in Tampa Florida, the project is in Zephyrhills Florida.

Joe


From: Jose Fuentes via KRnet
Sent: ?6/?30/?2014 12:27 PM
To: Dene via KRnet
Subject: KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k


Ask for pictures and you shell receive.


I got wing skins, ribs, spars, hull with tail feathers. canopy, tank, most of 
the landing gear components (minus wheels). 


You can reach me at 850-284-7440


Joe






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[Joe]

Also, I am located in Tampa Florida, the project is in Zephyrhills Florida.

Joe

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Sent: ?6/?30/?2014 12:27 PM
To: "Dene via KRnet" 
Subject: KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k

Ask for pictures and you shell receive.


I got wing skins, ribs, spars, hull with tail feathers. canopy, tank, most of 
the landing gear components (minus wheels). 


 You can reach me at 850-284-7440


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KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k

[Joe]

Make an offer I need to make room, my email address is dark7622 at yahoo.com

Joe

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Sent: ?6/?30/?2014 12:27 PM
To: "Dene via KRnet" 
Subject: KR> KR2 Hull, Wing Skins For Sale 1k

Ask for pictures and you shell receive.


I got wing skins, ribs, spars, hull with tail feathers. canopy, tank, most of 
the landing gear components (minus wheels). 


 You can reach me at 850-284-7440


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KR> WING SKIN

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Also the Bellanca had plywood covered wings  

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Mar 6, 2014, at 2:49, Maureen Laverick  wrote:

> If you are thinking of plywood skins have a look at  GAZAILE 2 on google
> Don laverick

KR> Pressure testing my wing tanks

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Sorry for the problem Pierre, but there has to be some humor in this sad 
lesson  my sympathy  but your story is just hiilarous...  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:41, Pierre  wrote:

> So here I am, finished my wing tanks and very proud of the welding work.
> Somebody mentioned that I should pressure test the tank to ensure it is leak
> free. I usually take good advice to heart, so I hooked up the compressor,
> blocked off all the inlet, breather and other openings, prepared the little
> water spray can and started the compressor. Slowly I start pressing the
> lever on the gun and start spraying the seams with water to see if I detect
> any bubbles. Finally I found a corner with a fine mist. I couldn't see
> exactly where this offending pinhole is and I increased the pressure a bit
> whilst spraying some more water on the offending seam. After about 3-4
> minutes of this adding pressure then spraying water and closely watching for
> the mist, I heard a "clunk" sound. Ignoring the sound (I am not stupid I
> know the tank will move a bit with pressure inside) I concentrate on this
> point on the seam and another two "clunks" further I finally pinpoint the
> pinhole.
> 
> 
> 
> Just then my wife enters the garage with a glass of Coke. Me, very proud of
> myself accepts the Coke and then I told commenced in telling her about my
> detective prowess and ingenuity and that I just discovered a tiny pinhole
> that could become a serious leak and I just averted a serious disaster. She
> took one look behind me and said "no wonder it leaks." I turned around and
> saw these two inter connected aluminum orbs that could be mistaken for beach
> balls!
> 
> 
> 
> There must have been some 100 different facial expressions passing over my
> face in the next nanosecond and as I looked back at my dear wife it is clear
> that she is all choked up with sympathy, grabbing her mouth and clearly
> overwhelmed with emotion and my disappointment she turned and ran into the
> house.
> 
> 
> 
> Suffice to say I packed up, washed and plonked in front of the TV. Air Crash
> investigation was on. My wife and I didn't speak much, as she seems to choke
> up every time she wants to say something. I am very blessed to have such an
> understanding wife. I was in no mood to say anything 20 odd hours of
> labor gone I also harbor serious thoughts about the guy's advice
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
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KR> 1/4" aluminum tubing adapaters

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks much to all who respondedI will look at all suggested sites and then 
decide the route...  tnx again,  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:33, Mark Langford  wrote:

> Joe Wallace wrote:
> 
>> Am working on the fuel system and using alum lines from the two wing tanks 
>> to a central location and pump to the main   looking for fittings and 
>> don't understand and can't find what I think should be in the catalogs.  
>> need suggestions.. using 1/4 line...
> 
> I suspect you are looking for AN fittings that mate aluminum tubing to AN 37 
> degree flares..."aluminum tubing adapters".  I've been using mostly Earls 
> fittings, but as you say, they start at -6 and go through -10 and don't 
> include -4.  165006 at http://www.anplumbing.com/Adapters/Aluminum-14.html 
> shows a picture of the -6 version of one.  I'm sure one of the other 
> manufacturers makes a -4 version of it.   There's not generally a huge price 
> difference between -4 and -6, and the flow is a lot higher, so you might 
> consider going with -6 tubing and hoses if you get boxed into it.  That's 
> what we use on the Corvair, and what I'm using on the 2180 in N89JF. There's 
> a picture of some of the aluminum tubing in the N56ML fuel system at 
> http://www.n56ml.com/fuel/index.html.
> 
> Before people spend a lot of time looking, exactly what do you need this 
> fitting to do?
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
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KR> Blog updated

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Am working on the fuel system and using alum lines from the two wing tanks to a 
central location and pump to the main   looking for fittings and don't 
understand and can't find what I think should be in the catalogs.  need 
suggestions.. using 1/4 line...  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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KR> Cowl Costruction

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Sid

It may need a bit more sanding and understand that is fun could you put a 
smile on her face  hehehe   Looking good.  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Jan 5, 2014, at 20:39, Sid Wood  wrote:

> Here is a picture of the new cowl for my tri-gear KR-2 with fresh fiberglass, 
> micro slurry and air inlets.
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/expercraft/sidwood/158194715052ca11c154220.jpg
> 
> Bernie Wunder provided lots of help above and beyond laying up fiberglass for 
> this project.  Thank you Bernie.
> 
> Next up is sanding, cutting and fitting.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> 
> 
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KR> Panel ?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

All of the round gauges can be bought from Westach direct  Pete will be 
happy to help and it saves some cost as well... go to their web site and 
inquire... I saved some good money and got what I wanted...jw

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On Jan 4, 2014, at 10:51, Robert7721 at aol.com wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> Concur to just keep it simple. I bought new low cost VFR gauges from either 
> Aircraft Spruce or Wicks to get the airplane up in the air. Just a 
> Airspeed,  altitude, compass, and VSI to begin with. I used a handheld radio 
> for 
> years as  well with no transponder. I also had just a handheld GPS with 
> homemade  mount in the panel. Over the years since I've done upgrades to 
> improve 
> my  quality of flight. Make access to your panel easy and you'll find making 
> the  upgrades later simple. Think about where, how you will upgrade in the  
> future and leave some panel space empty for the potential upgrades.  
> 
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
> _www.robert7721.com_ (http://www.robert7721.com) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/4/2014 10:13:59 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> shagster60 at hotmail.com writes:
> 
> Good  mourning Guys, I am getting ready to start the panel. I am looking at 
> the  Flightline Fl-760 comm and basic minimal day VFR gauges ( airspeed, 
> altimeter,  compass ) as I only intend on fair weather flying. I'll also need 
> a  transponder. As for engine gauges, I'm going with the Grand Rapids EIS.  
> Suggestions would be appreciated. But before you comment, Keep in mind that  
> I'd like to do this with minimal spending that the KR name and history  
> implies. In other words, the cheaper the better. Hey, if this thing flies,  
> I'll upgrade it later.
> 
> Mike Sylvester 
> kr2s builder  
> Birmingham,AL.
> 
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KR> Digital Scale

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Just purchased a Sticky Stuff pump system from Wicks  adjustable ratio give 
good results..(experience from a fellow builder)...  takes some experimenting 
to get the proper ratio.  the delivery tubes would seem to guarantee proper 
mix...  we'll see...   will be delivering epoxy and hardner with same stroke to 
different cups for measurements onto a digital scale until I am comfortable 
with repeatability...  jw

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On Dec 23, 2013, at 11:38, Sid Wood  wrote:

> Use the West System pumps to pump out any quantity (from drops to cups) of 
> resin or hardener of any brand or system, any size can you want into the cup 
> on a digital scale.  Saves a lot of mess trying to pour a viscous liquid. Of 
> course, use a different pump for the resin and for the hardener.  I also use 
> the West System pumps for thinners and cleaners.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> 
> ---
> 
> If folks are wondering why 1 gram resolution is important, try mixing up 26
> grams (less than an ounce) of Aeropoxy without one.  If you start with 20
> grams of resin and then multiply by 1.27 to get the amount of hardener to
> add, you end up with 25.4 grams, so you slowly add 5.5 grams of hardener to
> the 20g of resin already in the cup.  This is done by maintaining the same
> slow pour rate and watching the scale to get a feel for how long it takes to
> pour half a gram...
> 
> ...I know the West Systems guys will mention that with the West pump you don't
> need no schtinkin' scales, but I would be skeptical of an ounce of epoxy
> that came out of the first stroke of a pump.
> 
> And I'm sure most folks have figured this out, but it's best to split the
> components down into manageable sizes for pouring purposes.  I use a medium
> size glass jar and a smaller one, like a baby food or small pickle jar for
> the hardener.  The small size makes it easier to pour accurate amounts, and
> keeps waste to a minimum.
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
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KR> Front deck removable.

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark

I have enjoyed your site and all the information that you share..   Tho' 
I'm building a different airplane this site is a generous bit of energy to keep 
at it  your stories and pictures are a tribute to all builders...   I 
especially enjoyed the picture by Herb Bull one that I had never seen 
before   I had a enjoyable acquaintance with Ken and many of the others 
shown in the Picture... Thanks again... jw

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KR> D10-A and additional D10-A components for sale

[Joe L.]

Now that i have sold my Kr i have a few items to sell that i will no longer 
need. ?One 52/52 warnke prop.bolt pattern to fit revemaster,new condition also 
i have a revflow carb hat has never been used. Also i have the spinner to fit 
the prop for sale with backing pate.I also have a brand new revmaster oil 
cooler that has never been used. If you are interested please contact me at 
krkip at yahoo.com or call 207-794-6450 or207 745-7971



On Sunday, October 27, 2013 1:03 PM, Dan Heath  wrote:

I found that I really did not use the D10-A on the trip to and from the
Gathering this year, so have decided to sell it and the components that can
be used with it.? See the price list and make an offer for both the D10 and
D10-A, and I will certainly consider it.



http://krbuilder.org/InstrumentsForSale/index.html





See N64KR at?  http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC







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KR> Was: KR honored, Now: Living Legends

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Enjoyed it very much I have a similar partner... tho' 96 and his history 
was a mechanic on the birds, stayed in CA at the training basis working on 
Stearmans and PBY's WHat A History Lesson... tnx for sharing...  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
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On Oct 19, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Jeff Scott  wrote:

> While this may not be KR related, it is certainly Aviation related.  

KR> Thanks

[Joe. E. Wallace]

You know.mistakes like that will probably get more prayers for you A 
GOOD THING...  

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John  wrote:

> I surely appreciate everybody's support.
> You know what?
> I thought I was replying to Jeff alone.  Didn't mean
> to announce my illness to the whole net  Oops, you'd think
> a computer guy like me would know better.  I blame IPAD email. ;-)
> Like I told Jeff: getting old sucks, but waking up on the right side of
> the grass is always a good start to the day...
> 
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KR> gathering forum idea

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Jeff

I am building a different airplane, but have a deep interest in the paint 
booth if you have directions or picts I would be happy to purchase same and 
appreciative of your time.  I will not be at the forum, but wish I could.  

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Jeff York  wrote:

> Larry,
> 
> I know its last minute but last night while working in my shop, I had an 
> idea. 
> 
> Many have commented on my KR2 paint job and I have been fortunate to win a 
> few awards with it and other projects. Dan Heath pointed out to me that it 
> had a lot to do with my paint jobs. 
> 
> So, I thought, if it would benefit the group, I would be happy to put on a 
> forum on painting a KR/airplane. 
> 

KR> CG Considerations

[Joe L.]

If anyone is interested i have my KR2 up for sale again as the previous buyer 
decided not to complete the sale. I have lowered the price to 8500.00 which is 
less ?than the parts alone are worth. To see pictures i have an ad on 
Barnstomers that describes the plane fully,This is a great deal for a proven 
and nice flying kr. If you have any intrest give me a call or email ? thanks 
Joe?

KR> capacitance fuel level sender?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

KR's and others  I'm building a different airplane and have just worked with 
Westberg Mfg and the owner Pete Cornelius.  What a great experience!  Very 
helpful and good pricing...  Tho' I got some of the original Westach gear from 
Aircraft Spruce & Spec...  I enjoyed the service from Pete...  #707 936  2121
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:10 PM, brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com wrote:

> That is what I was thinking.  There are several companies I know of that sell 
> the Westach and just put their label on it.  I have used the Westach several 
> times and Have always had very good results with it.
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: KR> capacitance fuel level sender?
> From: "Jeff Scott" 
> Date: Fri, July 19, 2013 5:48 pm
> To: "KRnet" 
> 
> It looks like the same thing as the Westach capacitance probe which is what 
> I've got in my KR.  It has 5 holes for 3/16 screws and should come with a 
> square mounting plate and gasket.  You bond the aluminum plate to the side of 
> the fuel tank where you want to mount the probe.  The probe goes through a 
> hole in the center of the plate and the base mounts to the flange using 5 
> 3/16 screws or bolts.  I had problems with them weeping under the mounting 
> gaskets off and on until I finally sealed the gaskets with some west epoxy.  
> If you have an aluminum tank, you could weld or rivet the aluminum mounting 
> flange to the tank.  The picture at 
> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/westachSender.php> shows the 
> mounting flange (even though that particular unit is the older 12V version of 
> the probe).
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> <http://jeffsplanes.com>
> 
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mark Langford
> > Sent: 07/19/13 06:12 PM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: KR> capacitance fuel level sender?
> > 
> > KRNetHeads,
> > 
> > I've finally finished up front-hinging the canopy (I'll work up a web page 
> > over the weekend), and next on the list is adding a fuel level sender to 
> > N891JF. I have a VDO 226-007 resistive sender, but am considering a 
> > capacitance sensor as well. MGL sells one near the bottom of 
> > http://www.mglavionics.com/html/infinity.html described as "Capacitance 
> > Fuel Level Sender, Bendable, Cutable" . Is anybody familiar with this 
> > particular unit, and might know the thread size or other mounting details? 
> > I have a call in to MGL but have not heard back yet. I'm using an RDAC XF 
> > interface, and I think either of these two would work, but am checking my 
> > options.
> > 
> > Thanks a lot,
> > 
> > Mark Langford
> > ML at N56ML.com
> > website at http://www.N56ML.com 
> > 
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KR> Insurance Folly

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Larry I know Scott, but just have never contacted him and have been 
very close to EAA... so Falcon is their partner It is good to look around 
and maybe smell the roses...  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Larry Flesner  
wrote:

> At 10:45 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote:
>> I also have ins with Falcon on an Adventura II...  their requests are 
>> ridiculous and they charge me an astromomical price for liability only not 
>> in motion...  Where else do we go???   I'm looking. jw
> 
> 
> I've been doing business with SkySmith since 1998.  Good people, heavy in to 
> EAA, and they shop for the best price.
> 
> I currently pay $349 a year for liability only ($1,000,000 policy)  That 
> price has been pretty flat for the last 5 years or so.
> 
> 
> SkySmith Insurance Agency
> 518 SW 3rd St, Suite B
> Ankeny, Iowa  50023-3048
> Phone:  (515) 289-1439 or (800) 743-1439
> Fax:  (515) 864-0334
> 
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> Insurance Folly

[Joe. E. Wallace]

TNX will do... jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:59 PM, John Miller  wrote:

> Try AOPA.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe. E.
> Wallace
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:46 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Insurance Folly
> 
> I also have ins with Falcon on an Adventura II...  their requests are
> ridiculous and they charge me an astromomical price for liability only not
> in motion...  Where else do we go???   I'm looking. jw
> 
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Larry Flesner 
> wrote:
> 
>> At 10:03 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote:
>>> However, they are requiring me to have 5 hours of dual in it with a CFI
> before they will cover me.
>> 
> +++
>> 
>> Where do they expect you to find a CFI that even knows what a KR is?  If
> you can fly a sonerai, you can fly a KR.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
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KR> Interesting info

[Joe. E. Wallace]

 Netters

Tho' not into this I found an article that may be interesting and maybe old 
stuff for all...  jw

http://www.flycorvair.com/thrust.html


Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com

KR> flying KR2 for sale

[Joe L.]

I ?am selling my KR2 after many years of ?flying enjoyment ? the plane can be 
seen on barnstormers under the listing for KR aircraft.The price is only 
$11.000 which is less than the kit and engine alone. I now fly a Mooney M20F 
which is the reason i am selling my KR. This is a excellent flying aircraft 
which will make someone a great plane. any questions call 207-794-6450 or 
207-745-7971 ? Kip

KR> "backup" panel guages?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Pat

Sorry for the delay...  I have followed the book most of the way...  converted 
to TBFI and digital ignition...I have done some of the work, but most was 
done by a gear head that I know and spends most of his time doing race car 
engines for Sprint cars...  he done the balance,blueprint, port and polish 
sure makes the engine nice  still haven't started it as this a bit further 
down the road for me   have the reduction drive mounted and yet to modify 
the flywheel or front pulleys for ignition pickup mounts...most of the 
needed parts not on the engine were available from Tony Duncan in KS for this 
conversion including coolant items...  Will take some picts and send jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Apr 15, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Pat and Robin Russo  
wrote:

> Hi Joe Wallace
> I am in the process of building a Molt Taylor Mini Imp in wood ala KR 
> construction and have redesigned the Engine compartment for that Geo 
> conversion.  I Have the book but not yet the engine... I would appreciate any 
> comments, critiques regarding the conversion. Are you doing the work yourself?
> Pat Russo
> 
> -Original Message- From: Joe. E. Wallace
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:11 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> "backup" panel guages?
> 
> Mark
> 
> I building a different airplane ( Loehle 5151) and am in the process of panel 
> layout  would it be to inconvenient to drop a picture of your instruments 
> and panel layout as planned... I'd appreciate your thoughts... I'll be VFR 
> day and no high altitude...  using a Geo 1.3 L conversion.  jw
> Joe. E. Wallace
> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Mark Langford  wrote:
> 
>> Larry Flesner wrote:
>> 
>>> When considering the entire panel at once it looks a bit challenging.
>> Break it down to the three >things you need for a safe flight, aviate,
>> navigate, communicate...
>> 
>> Larry,
>> 
>> All decisions have been made, the panel is designed, all components and
>> materials are on hand, and I'm cutting it out and wiring it shortly.  With
>> 1130 hours in N56ML with a similar panel, I have a pretty good idea of how
>> I'd like it.  No further thought required...
>> 
>> Mark Langford
>> ML at N56ML.com
>> see experimental N56ML at www.N56ML.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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KR> "backup" panel guages?

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark

I building a different airplane ( Loehle 5151) and am in the process of panel 
layout  would it be to inconvenient to drop a picture of your instruments 
and panel layout as planned... I'd appreciate your thoughts...  I'll be VFR day 
and no high altitude...  using a Geo 1.3 L conversion.  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Mark Langford  wrote:

> Larry Flesner wrote:
> 
>> When considering the entire panel at once it looks a bit challenging.
> Break it down to the three >things you need for a safe flight, aviate,
> navigate, communicate... 
> 
> Larry,
> 
> All decisions have been made, the panel is designed, all components and
> materials are on hand, and I'm cutting it out and wiring it shortly.  With
> 1130 hours in N56ML with a similar panel, I have a pretty good idea of how
> I'd like it.  No further thought required...
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> see experimental N56ML at www.N56ML.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Trim tab installation

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks Adam got it... jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Adam Tippin  wrote:

> Its much more inexpensive to buy direct from
> rayallencompany.com./products/servos.html
> On Mar 24, 2013 11:13 PM, "Joe. E. Wallace"  wrote:
> 
>> Tnx Jeff for the link... jw
>> 
>> Joe. E. Wallace
>> jwallacep51 at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ray Allen Servos:
>>> 
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ractrimservos.php?clickkey=53667
>>> 
>>> -Jeff Scott
>>> Los Alamos, NM
>> 
>> 
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KR> Trim tab installation

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Tnx Jeff for the link... jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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> 
> 
> 
> Ray Allen Servos:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ractrimservos.php?clickkey=53667
> 
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM

KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear

[Joe. E. Wallace]

I have an Aventura II and it uses the Morse cables throughout   no bind, no 
slack and no tension on little brackets...  very smooth operation  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Tony King  wrote:

> I don't understand why morse/teleflex/push-pull cables aren't more common
> in aircraft.  I know Jabiru use them, and I've seen them in some other
> aicraft.  I'm planning to use them on my KR.  No doubt they're a bit
> heavier than regular cables, but by the time you include the fittings and
> brackets you don't need (e.g. every time a regular cable goes round a
> bend), and the shorter cable length, the weight difference probably is
> minimal.  Not sure the cost would be significantly different either by the
> time you include all the brackets, pulleys, etc. for regular cables.  It's
> not like they're unproven and it seems to me the time saving during
> build would be significant, which is why I don't understand why they're not
> more popular.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 19 March 2013 07:56, Clayton  wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone used morse cables? (I think that is what they are called) like
>> the ones used on boats? They bend easy and don't need pulleys. If you have
>> a
>> fold up wing, no need to even unhook them.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of jon kimmel
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 AM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: KR> Aileron cable rigging with tricycle gear
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone has tried this idea...the diehl tricycle
>> installation forces you to reroute the aileron cable...and most folks
>> install a long bracket so they can install a pulley midway from front to
>> rear spar outboard of the landing gear mount.  Why not install a pulley to
>> the front spar inboard of the mount and another pulley to the rear spar
>> just
>> forward of the aileron bellcrank?
>> 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11

[Joe. E. Wallace]

You can't believe how long this motor mount is???   jw

Joe. E. Wallace
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On Mar 6, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Dene Collett"  wrote:

> Hey Joe
> I would think your bodie's CG will move with your belly button. It's like
> putting your motor out on a longer engine mount hehe.
> 
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Port Elizabeth 
> South Africa
> 
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KR> I need to Fly

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark

Somehow I don't see me dealing with that much snow or ICE  I lived in MN a 
couple winters and found you folks have two seasons  Winter and the 4th of 
July...  A suggestion for the bottom of a door freezing down.  On my overhead 
doors that use a rubber seal on the bottom, I replaced them with a hollow 
rubber seal and inserted one of the heat tapes through this opening.  The 
control  is attached to the door and an extra long drop cord is then attached 
so it will allow the door to open and close without unplugging the cord.  It is 
sometimes necessary to swing the extra cord out of the way when the door is 
closing.  It uses the same amount of a small bulb and only warms it 
sufficiently to keep the door from freezing down...  However I am in Iowa  a 
bit warmer.  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Mark Jones  wrote:

> If any of you guys have nothing to do and want to experience the wonderful 
> Wisconsin winter I have a job for you. My hanger door will not open due to 
> seven inches of ice build up on the ground which has encased the bottom of my 
> door to the ground. Jones is jonesing to fly. Please send me warm weather!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Fly In

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Dan

This was the Sport Aviation Ass'n and was held at Frasca Field in Urbana IL.  
It has become a non organization now, however, the fly-in was held last year 
and has been one of the best ones I've ever attended.  No vendors allowed..  
camping on the ground, meals available and the hosts are unbelievable?  Tony 
Frasca and his family tour through their facilities and museum of many 
airplanes?  I will look up the dates and send a flyer from last year if I can 
find it?   jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Dan Heath wrote:

> Does anyone remember the fly-in that Paul Poberezney was involved with for a
> few years after his retirement?  I understand that it has continued on after
> he stopped being active in it.  I emailed the person in charge, last year,
> but can't remember who it was and have not heard anymore from them.
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know when it usually is held, or how to get in contact with
> them?
> 
> 
> 
> See N64KR at  <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
> See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN - 40th
> Anniversary
> 
> There is a time for building and it is over.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Book

[Joe. E. Wallace]

I have just received a copy of Bob Nucholls biid "The AeroElectric 
Connection"?.   This is an amazing book and tho' I'm not electrical, the 
illustrations, picts and copy will get me through a lot of problems?   I could 
certainly recommend it to anyone for a very nice addition to the library  My 
son who is an A was very impressed?. Not to advertise, but it is very usable 
for us builders and repairmen?   jw
No
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com

KR> RE: First day working with N86DK.....

[Joe Beyer]

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1) It looks to me like it is a HAPI engine conversion. Most likely an
1835cc. Stock 69mm crank with 92mm bore.
2) Learn to hand prop. You will save weight not having a starter. The plane
flies better if it's light weight.
3) Polyester/vinyl ester is not compatible with epoxy. Use epoxy resin to
make any repairs. I don't know where you get this 'polyurethane' stuff.
4) I would get rid of those seats and put the KR sling seats in for
starters. Then see where your knees are in relation to the cross member.
Move your seat back.

Joe Beyer
Estacada, Ore.

KR> Fwd: Recognizing Dynel

[Joe Weber]

the epoxy was DOW DER 330.  It is no longer available.
Joe Weber 937JW

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Glenn Martin
<rep...@martekmississippi.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> On 12/30/2011 6:09 PM, Russell Barmett wrote:
> >  send me your address and i will send you a sample of dynel from my KR
>  made in 1977.
> >  Russ Barnett
> >
> Thank you for the sample of Dynel, Russ. That's exactly what my airfoils
> are made of. Can anyone tell me the type of Epoxy  RR  was using at that
> time along with the Dynel. I'm going to order some Dynel and that type
> epoxy to patch up my KR. That will make me feel good about the
> compatibility.
> --
> Glenn Martin,
> KR2 N1333A,
> Biloxi, MS
>
>
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KR> RE: KRnet Digest, Rotary Anyone?

[Joe Beyer]

I have a little stick time in a rotary powered aircraft. A Coot amphibian
with a pilon mounted Mazda 12A with electronic ignition, 2:1 reduction with
a 5 blade ground adjustable prop. It slows down to 500rpm and takes off at
about 6800rpm. Very smooth operation but very high fuel consumption. Also
extremely loud. It had nitrous oxide injection which added another thousand
rpm for takeoff. It got you up on the step and off the water. About 2100
lbs. empty weight. Not for the light sport pilot.

Joe
Eagle Creek, Ore.

KR> RE: Fuel tank pick up and vent

[Joe Beyer]

> I'm about ready to close up my aluminum wing fuel tanks and need some
advice on the pick up and vent. These tanks are very similar to those on
Mark Jones' website. 
> 1: I'm thinking of eliminating the pick up tube and installing the AN
fitting, with a finger screen attached, right near the bottom of the tank. I
think this setup would prevent the possibility of a loose pick up tube
falling off inside the tank.
> 2: I'm installing the filler/ cap toward the wing tip end of the tank.
What are your thought of a simple 1/4" tube attached on the filler neck
pointing toward the airstream above the wing like the header tank design in
the KR plans? Or should I attach the tube to the filler neck and route it
out the bottom of the wing? Which would perform better? Pro and cons?
> Your thoughts and ideas are welcomed. 
> 
> Rodger Nicolls 
> bandenok...@gmail.com
> 
> Blue skies!


 I would install the vent line into the lower skin, extend it through the 
underside pointing downward. Cut a 50deg. angle in the tube on the foreword
face to give you positive air flow. I did this on my composite tank,
extending the vent tube through the firewall and downward with that angle. I
didn't want a ram air effect that pressurizes the tank with increased
airspeed speed. Also I attached a little screen to the bottom of the vent.

Joe

Valley View, Ore.

KR> RE: tri-gear conversion

[Joe Beyer]

Message: 1
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:00:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: velocityo...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: KR> Continuing thoughts on tri-gear conversion
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Message-ID:
<1320217247.32437.yahoomail...@web126104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

>Hello Dave,
 
>First off my salute to you and sincere thanks for your service to this
>country! You have my respect and help at any time.
 
>Glad to see you planning to get this thing going. A couple of things to go
>over. The original spring-bar isn't what is used for the tri gear
>conversion

I used the spring bar sawed in half and tapered for my tri gear conversion.
I made a trailing link gear leg which has taken some pretty bouncy landings.
The biggest challenge was getting the nose wheel to not shimmy or bend at
the pivot point. 
Joe
Valley View (Estacada)

KR> RE: KRnet Tri Gear Conversion

[Joe Beyer]

*
Message: 2
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:04:38 +
From: Dave Acklam <dave.a.kr...@gmail.com>
Subject: KR> Purchased a KR-2, want to change the landing gear
config

I want to convert it to tri-gear, as all my time has been in 172s & I'm not
quite comfortable picking up a new airframe and learning to fly tailwheel at
the same time.

My KR-2 was a tail dragger years ago and after a hard landing on my fifth
flight I decided to do the conversion. It was a great improvement in the
ground handling. I think the 2-s version is better suited for tail wheels
due to it's longer length. I designed my own hardware and the biggest
challenge was getting the nose wheel right. 

Joe
Estacada Ore.

KR> KRnet posts, and the rules

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mark

You are way too logical??  if your instructions were followed on all e-mails, 
the internet would be 100% more effective?.  I do not have time to read or 
download all the extra?  Keep up the good work..  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Mark Langford wrote:

> I didn't say nobod

KR> VW dip stick

[Joe Weber]

I remove the cowl. I want to anyway to inspect the engine before I fly.
Joe Weber

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Pete and Karen Gauthier <
gauthier0...@msn.com> wrote:

> I have a HAPI 1835 with a Rand Cowl.  The dip stick is easily accessible
> through the air intake but it cannot be removed without removing the top of
> the cowl.  How do those that are flying VW access the dip stick.  do you
> Modify the dipstick, cut a door in the cowl, remove the cowl?  Any adverse
> affects from cutting the dip stick tube?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete Gauthier
> Woodburn OR
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>

KR> RE: Selling Marty Roberts' KR-2 with an O-200

[Joe and Mary Ferraro]

To all the KR folks, I'm selling Marty Roberts' KR-2 with an O-200 Continental. 
 Any and all offers are welcome.  Still in great condition. The wings are off 
and aircraft is ready to ship.  Please reply to my e-mail address and I'll send 
some photos.

Thank you and have a great time at the gathering.

Joseph from Spokane, Wa
skygo...@live.com

  > From: krnet-requ...@mylist.net
> Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 353, Issue 248
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:00:13 -0700
> 
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> Today's Topics:
> 
>1.  Passwords (laser...@juno.com)
>2.  Gathering Weather (Dan Heath)
>3. Re:  Passwords (Larry Flesner)
>4. Re:  Gathering schedule (Larry Flesner)
>5.  Gathering weather (Larry Flesner)
>6. Re:  Gathering Weather (Patrick Driscoll)
>7.  6 DAYS (Mark Jones)
>8. Re:  6 DAYS (Rudi Venter)
>9. Re:  Passwords (Dj Merrill)
>   10. Re:  6 DAYS (Matt May)
>   11.  (no subject) (jmelvin...@aol.com)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:38:29 -0700
> From: laser...@juno.com
> Subject: KR> Passwords
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Message-ID: <20110908.213904.950.1022...@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> > To subscribe, e-mail krnet-j...@mylist.net . It's completely FREE,
> period. 
> 
> Krnet may be free but over the years many happy customers have taken
> advantage of my password service that costs $5 for each custom password I
> provide.  Yes, members can make up their own but I have many years of
> experience in designing and implementing passwords, each one backed by a
> guarantee of either money back or replacement.  If anyone wanting a
> custom password would please email me directly, for $5 U.S. (pesos also
> accepted - no dracmas or lira though)  I will be happy to provide a
> password tailored to your needs that will work on krnet and many other
> aviation sites.  
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mike
> KSEE
> 
> P.S.  All of San Diego County is without mains current tonight.  It's
> very spooky driving around a place where 1.5 million people live and
> there be no street lights, store lights, house lights, etc.  Except for
> headlights, the brightest light around tonight is the Moon.  
> 
> If this were Oakland or LA, the rabble would be hauling TV sets out of
> the stores.  Here all is calm.  
> 
> If anyone is after the Greatest Distance Flown Award this year they won't
> have me to compete with.  I'm seeing my mom through final days and weeks
> of life and haven't had time to get the plane tuned up for any long
> trips, or even short ones for that matter.  Have fun.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Hyatt Summerfield Suites
> All Suites Hotel with a Full Kitchen. Free Breakfast & Wi-Fi. Book Now
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e69989f1f80f115332st04vuc
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 05:59:43 -0400
> From: "Dan Heath" 
> Subject: KR> Gathering Weather
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Message-ID: <01cc6ed7$332c3160$99849420$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> According to Weather.COM
> 
>  
> 
> 40% rain on Thursday and a high of 76
> 
> 0% rain of Friday and a high of 81, Sunny
> 
> 20% rain on Saturday and a high of 82, Cloudy
> 
> 40% rain on Sunday, and a high of 85, but we will all be gone then anyway.
> 
>  
> 
> Don't look all that bad to me.
> 
>  
> 
> See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
> See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
> 
> There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:31:15 -0500
> From: Larry Flesner 
> Subject: Re: KR> Passwords
> To: KRnet 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> At 11:38 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
> >I will be happy to provide a
> >password tailored to your needs that will work on krnet and many other
> >aviation sites.
> 
> 
> As Dan already posted, THERE IS NO PASSWORD REQUIRED FOR KR NET.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 

KR> RE: Selling Marty Roberts' KR-2 with an O-200

[Joe and Mary Ferraro]

To all the KR folks, I'm selling Marty Roberts' KR-2 with an O-200 Continental. 
 Any and all offers are welcome.  Still in great condition. The wings are off 
and aircraft is ready to ship.  Please reply to my e-mail address and I'll send 
some photos.

Thank you and have a great time at the gathering.

Joseph from Spokane, Wa
skygo...@live.com   > From: krnet-requ...@mylist.net
> Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 353, Issue 248
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:00:13 -0700
> 
> Send KRnet mailing list submissions to
>   kr...@mylist.net
> 
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>   http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet
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>   krnet-requ...@mylist.net
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>   krnet-ow...@mylist.net
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>1.  Passwords (laser...@juno.com)
>2.  Gathering Weather (Dan Heath)
>3. Re:  Passwords (Larry Flesner)
>4. Re:  Gathering schedule (Larry Flesner)
>5.  Gathering weather (Larry Flesner)
>6. Re:  Gathering Weather (Patrick Driscoll)
>7.  6 DAYS (Mark Jones)
>8. Re:  6 DAYS (Rudi Venter)
>9. Re:  Passwords (Dj Merrill)
>   10. Re:  6 DAYS (Matt May)
>   11.  (no subject) (jmelvin...@aol.com)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:38:29 -0700
> From: laser...@juno.com
> Subject: KR> Passwords
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Message-ID: <20110908.213904.950.1022...@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> > To subscribe, e-mail krnet-j...@mylist.net . It's completely FREE,
> period. 
> 
> Krnet may be free but over the years many happy customers have taken
> advantage of my password service that costs $5 for each custom password I
> provide.  Yes, members can make up their own but I have many years of
> experience in designing and implementing passwords, each one backed by a
> guarantee of either money back or replacement.  If anyone wanting a
> custom password would please email me directly, for $5 U.S. (pesos also
> accepted - no dracmas or lira though)  I will be happy to provide a
> password tailored to your needs that will work on krnet and many other
> aviation sites.  
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mike
> KSEE
> 
> P.S.  All of San Diego County is without mains current tonight.  It's
> very spooky driving around a place where 1.5 million people live and
> there be no street lights, store lights, house lights, etc.  Except for
> headlights, the brightest light around tonight is the Moon.  
> 
> If this were Oakland or LA, the rabble would be hauling TV sets out of
> the stores.  Here all is calm.  
> 
> If anyone is after the Greatest Distance Flown Award this year they won't
> have me to compete with.  I'm seeing my mom through final days and weeks
> of life and haven't had time to get the plane tuned up for any long
> trips, or even short ones for that matter.  Have fun.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Hyatt Summerfield Suites
> All Suites Hotel with a Full Kitchen. Free Breakfast & Wi-Fi. Book Now
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e69989f1f80f115332st04vuc
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 05:59:43 -0400
> From: "Dan Heath" 
> Subject: KR> Gathering Weather
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Message-ID: <01cc6ed7$332c3160$99849420$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> According to Weather.COM
> 
>  
> 
> 40% rain on Thursday and a high of 76
> 
> 0% rain of Friday and a high of 81, Sunny
> 
> 20% rain on Saturday and a high of 82, Cloudy
> 
> 40% rain on Sunday, and a high of 85, but we will all be gone then anyway.
> 
>  
> 
> Don't look all that bad to me.
> 
>  
> 
> See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
> See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
> 
> There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:31:15 -0500
> From: Larry Flesner 
> Subject: Re: KR> Passwords
> To: KRnet 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> At 11:38 PM 9/8/2011, you wrote:
> >I will be happy to provide a
> >password tailored to your needs that will work on krnet and many other
> >aviation sites.
> 
> 
> As Dan already posted, THERE IS NO PASSWORD REQUIRED FOR KR NET.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 

KR> EAA survey

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Just a little more detail on the SAA  Until this year, I've attended this 
event at Urbana IL.  at Frasca Field.  A 5400' paved runway, with a 3200 sod 
strip.  The location of Frasca Intl. the manufacturer of the most advanced 
flight simulators built.  Operated by the Frasca family with the support of 
Paul and Audrey Poberzny...   Truly a grass roots event, with good food at very 
reasonable prices, catered by a local EAA chapter. Forums by different pilots 
about different airplanes and the displays of the Frasca collection as well as 
the many fly-ins...  2 1/2 days of pleasure with no outside vendors  or 
loud noises (except airplanes).  Entertainment has been visiting with other 
pilots from all over the country.  Paul and Rudy started the SAA to continue 
the grass roots environment that started EAA  With Paul's age and the 
efforts to bring this to happening, the last year has been done by the Frasca 
family with Paul's blessing and the thanks of many devoted just  PLANE   
people...   May it continue!  

Thanks for the time  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Jul 7, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Bob Glidden wrote:

> The SAA Sport aircraft association (I think) is no more Paul P started it up
> a few years back and had a hand full of fly-ins at a grass strip in
> Illinois, but it never really went anywhere. It was not all commercialized
> about the only thing you could buy there was a t-shirt and some food.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Glenn Martin
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 8:41 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> EAA survey
> 
> On 7/6/2011 2:38 PM, Bob Glidden wrote:
>> I think it is funny that the founder of EAA Paul P. started SAA a few
> years
>> back because he said EAA was becoming to commercialized.
> What is the SAA?
> 
> -- 
> Glenn Martin,
> KR2 N1333A,
> Biloxi, MS
> 
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KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

[Joe Cruz]

Dave, did you receive the photos I sent back to you? Let me know, Thanks, 
Joe

-Original Message- 
From: David Rayburn
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:40 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S vs KR2; Bill of Materials?

I have a KR1 that has the same stretch as the KR2S in boat stage for
sale. Foam and fiberglass, closed spars with second inspection done,
And some extras.  You won't find better workmanship on any other
project.  You may be able to get it real cheap.

Dave 314 971 3433  cell call anytime,  Early or late.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Dan Morehouse <messyd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello :-)
>
> I'm considering building a KR-1, -2, or -2S. I'll be finishing up my plans 
> built
> Sonex over the next few (or several) months and am looking at building a
> composite airplane for my next project. I've almost no experience in
> fiberglass.
>
> It seems there are precious few KR1's and the stretched 2's are much more
> popular than the original shorter version. I prolly wouldn't like the KR1 
> as
> much as the -2 or -2S. Even though most of my flying would be short solos, 
> once
> in awhile I'd want the space for a passenger or baggage.
>
> That narrows it to the original vs. stretched 2. From the specs sheets, it 
> looks
> like the 2S is 18" longer with a wingspan that's 2' 4" longer. Chord must 
> be
> shorter, cuz the wing area goes only from 80 to 82. It says there's also 
> more
> headroom. Cockpit width is unchanged.
>
> I'm 5' 7", so certainly wouldn't need the extra leg room, but extra for 
> baggage
> might be nice. And I've read the KR2S isn't as pitch sensitive, which 
> certainly
> would appeal to me. Many have widened the cockpit a few inches, which I'd 
> prolly
> consider. If I'm gonna have a 2 seater, it would be nice to have the room. 
> I'd
> like to hear the pros and cons of the 2 vs 2S, including any other mods.
>
> I see that NVAero sells parts and kits. ACS doesn't show much except for a
> Spruce kit. Wicks lists more kits that are itemized. Is there a bill of
> materials somewhere for these planes? If not, then are the Wicks lists 
> accurate?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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KR> KR2s plans and manual FROM NVAERO (Long)

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Steve

Tho' I'm not a KR builder, I follow the site as my interest in the KR history 
and future is vivid.  Being in business for many years, I follow your 
frustration and can not try to understand your vast hurdles to stay in 
business.  My hat's off to you!  I feel that anyone that will read your story 
will understand that a short wait can be endured and that you are honest and 
have the best intents to help Keep The KR's Flying...Good Luck...

Sincerely  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:57 AM, I FLY KRs wrote:

> Hello Jeff and Netter's,
> 
> I guess I should make a few clarifications regarding nV Aero and parts/
> plans availability.
> 

KR> Quiet Technologies "Halos"

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Thanks for the info  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On May 8, 2011, at 11:53 AM, George Kolasinski wrote:

> Check this site it a direct link the manufacturer, demo and purchase
> 
> http://www.quiettechnologies.com/
> 
> Newfygoofy
> 
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Joe. E. Wallace <jwallace...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Where do I find the Halo headsets  don't seem to be with Aircraft
>> Spruce or Wicks...   I am not an AOPA member so don't have that connection.
>> The term Halo doesn't come up on my search links...   Thanks  jw
>> Joe. E. Wallace
>> jwallace...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2011, at 2:01 AM, laser...@juno.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been playing with the idea of ANR's for a long time and about a year
>>> ago decided, when it was time to get a new and better set of headphones,
>>> to take a serious look at the Halos.  It came to my attention via the
>>> AOPA forum that the Halos were having kind of a double sale.  Normal is
>>> $399 and I ended up getting them for $324.
>>> 
>>> If you take a set of the yellow foam earplugs that we all have and put
>>> them correctly in your ears - that's how quiet the Halos are, since
>>> that's exactly how they work - except you can hear the radio crystal
>>> clear.  And thanks to the very high quality noise suppressing mic, ATC
>>> can hear me, also apparently crystal clear.  I've been asking for a radio
>>> check with the mic at varying distances from my lips.  The response is
>>> always five by five.
>>> 
>>> There's not much else to them.  Earplugs, mike, and a headband that you
>>> don't even know is on your head it is so light and unobtrusive.  It's
>>> really only there to hold the mic in position.  Although my Peltor's have
>>> the thinnest headband of all the headphones, these new "tubephones" give
>>> me even more clearance between my head and the canopy.  I need all I can
>>> get.
>>> 
>>> No more clamping pressures from ear cups.  No more pressing my
>>> eyeglass/sunglass stems into my temples.  No more sweaty earpads.
>>> 
>>> Some say the Halos are just as quiet as the best ANR's.  I'm sure happy
>>> with them.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> KSEE
>>> 
>>> Groupon Official Site
>>> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your citys best!
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dc4ee5ee81eb2b591dst03vuc
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 770 712-0638
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KR> Quiet Technologies "Halos"

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Mike

Where do I find the Halo headsets  don't seem to be with Aircraft Spruce or 
Wicks...   I am not an AOPA member so don't have that connection.  The term 
Halo doesn't come up on my search links...   Thanks  jw
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On May 7, 2011, at 2:01 AM, laser...@juno.com wrote:

> I've been playing with the idea of ANR's for a long time and about a year
> ago decided, when it was time to get a new and better set of headphones,
> to take a serious look at the Halos.  It came to my attention via the
> AOPA forum that the Halos were having kind of a double sale.  Normal is
> $399 and I ended up getting them for $324.   
> 
> If you take a set of the yellow foam earplugs that we all have and put
> them correctly in your ears - that's how quiet the Halos are, since
> that's exactly how they work - except you can hear the radio crystal
> clear.  And thanks to the very high quality noise suppressing mic, ATC
> can hear me, also apparently crystal clear.  I've been asking for a radio
> check with the mic at varying distances from my lips.  The response is
> always five by five.  
> 
> There's not much else to them.  Earplugs, mike, and a headband that you
> don't even know is on your head it is so light and unobtrusive.  It's
> really only there to hold the mic in position.  Although my Peltor's have
> the thinnest headband of all the headphones, these new "tubephones" give
> me even more clearance between my head and the canopy.  I need all I can
> get.  
> 
> No more clamping pressures from ear cups.  No more pressing my
> eyeglass/sunglass stems into my temples.  No more sweaty earpads.  
> 
> Some say the Halos are just as quiet as the best ANR's.  I'm sure happy
> with them.  
> 
> Mike
> KSEE
> 
> Groupon Official Site
> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your citys best!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dc4ee5ee81eb2b591dst03vuc
> 
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KR> RE:Fuel Filter Cap and venting

[Joe Beyer]

I vented my 15 gallon composite tank to a point below the firewall. The vent
line goes foreword and angles down. I have a screen at the end to prevent
blockage.  
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From: phillabaum...@aol.com
Subject: KR> Fuel filler and caps venting
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Thanks for the reply's on the cap types.  I like the one Joe sent I will
look into that one.

HOW TO VENT the header tank?   My thinking (although might be stupid) is
that if I vent the header tank out the top then if while I am transferring
fuel from the wing tanks and get distracted and forget to turn off the pump
I will notice fuel on the windscreen.  I really don't want to put a switch
in the tank for a warning light but if that is the way to do it then.
Just looking the the K.I.S.S. system.

Steve Phillabaum
KR2Swide
Shorter, Alabama
334-740-0066

KR> Matco wheels and brakes

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Might try the Tracy O'Brien brakes.. small and very well done...  I'm using 
them on a Loehle 5151  TracyO'Brien.com
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com



On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:33 PM, <rbaal...@cox.net> <rbaal...@cox.net> wrote:

> I have been browsing the Matco wheel site and I am not sure of the pros/cons 
> of going with the internal caliper brake assy.  Is there anybody who has used 
> the internal caliper brakes and are you happy with that decision?  I would 
> like some input before purchasing.  I am have around the McCauley and 
> Cleveland brake on the "spam cans" but have never dealt with the internal 
> types.  The wheels I am looking at are the WE51  and W51L.
> Thanks  Roger
> 
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KR> KR2 Plans - nV Aero Version

[Joe. E. Wallace]

My hat is off to you Steve,  I was one of the original purchaser of a set of 
plans and the full kit, less engine...  many years ago...  I had the pleasure 
of meeting and working with Ken and his family until I sold my project...I 
have a lot of admiration for all who have kept this 'kettle boiling" so to 
speak and the one that I remember is Steve Bennett. He has been in this for a 
long time and has a lot of experience and knowledge of the KR's...   I truly 
enjoy the conversations and project pictures of all the KR's that are flying 
and in process...  and Mark Langfords pictorial tours that he gives...   Keep 
'em Flying...  Thanks jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com

KR> RE: KRnet Digest, Vol 352, Issue 369

[Joe Beyer]

Message: 6
You might try setting the aircraft to the highest angle of attack expected
in flight by placing something under the nose wheel with minimum fuel in the
tank. Then disconnect the fuel output from the gasculator and point it
toward a measuring cup. With a stop watch time the amount of fuel it takes
to fill a specific amount in the cup. Then calculate the gph. 

Joe
Scappoose ore.

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:43:59 -0500
From: "smwood" <smw...@md.metrocast.net>
Subject: KR> Fuel Flow Test
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I need to verify the fuel flow rate on my KR-2.  The VW 2180 would burn 
about 6 gallons per hour full throttle 3600 RPM, full rich, max climb rate 
at 14 degrees AOA.  FAA says there must be a 50 percent safety factor.  So, 
need to verify 9 gallon per hour fuel flow.  I cannot just fly to see if the

aircraft will not run out of fuel under these conditions because that would 
not demonstrate the safety factor and a couple of other things.  Other 
considerations:  All fuel is in the wings; have an engine driven mechanical 
fuel pump.  Just windmilling with the starter won't get but a few hundred 
RPM.  I can block up the aircraft on the ground for the 14-degree AOA.  Yes,

I know about the 2-minute max throttle de-rating.
There are lots of references in the archives on flow testing and Facet 
pumps.  I find nothing for on testing engine-driven fuel pumps or how the 
flow was actually measured.
Any suggestions on how I can demonstrate a 9 gallon per hour fuel flow rate?

(which, of course, the 2180 will never need)

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA