KR> Off Subject

[bobby burington]

Here ya go . . . http://vb.taylorcraft.org/  

--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Charles Burkholder  wrote:


From: Charles Burkholder 
Subject: KR> Off Subject
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:27 PM


    Do any of you guys know if there's a .net for taylorcraft airplanes???
Charles
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KR> Fw: [VW_Conversions] Re: cleaning out the shop

[bobby burington]

I wanted to foward this for anyone who might be needing parts . . ..
 
Bobby Burington
California KR builder

--- On Fri, 1/15/10, privatepilot03 <cjsten...@ameritech.net> wrote:


From: privatepilot03 <cjsten...@ameritech.net>
Subject: [VW_Conversions] Re: cleaning out the shop
To: vw_conversi...@yahoogroups.com
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:04 AM


  



Alternator sold pending payment.

--- In VW_Conversions@ yahoogroups. com, "privatepilot03" <cjstenson@. ..> 
wrote:
>
> Couple random VW related parts for sale:
> 
> Scat C35 cam (same as Engle 110). Best suited for 2180cc engines or larger 
> with the ability to cruise at 32-3400rpm. $40 shipped.
> 
> Great Plains diehl accessory flywheel. Drilled for standard 4 dowel crank. 
> Fits all from 1600-2387cc engines using diehl case. $100 shipped.
> 
> Kubota/John Deere etc permanent magnet alternator with regulator. This is a 
> very small belt drive 20 amp alternator. About the size of a softball and 
> very light. $125 shipped.
> 
> Gear reduction type starter to fit Diehl case. $100 shipped.
> 
> All parts are used with very low time. These parts were used as R parts 
> from my rear drive development in my Sonerai. Prices are somewhat negotiable.
> 
> Email for pics or with questions.
> 
> Chad
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KR> KR for sale

[bobby burington]

I guess I should let you all know its in california
 
Thanks
Bobby

KR> KR for sale

[bobby burington]

anyone intrested in a KR2 , mostly finished but needs the engine install 
finished and paint. 
I'll never get her done.  I paid   $5,500.00 . .   I'll take 3,500.00.
 
I'll be listing it on Barnstormers soon.
Thanks
Bobby Burington

KR> Paint

[bobby burington]

Hello All ,
 
Thanks for all the input. Rustoleum is definitely out, it has been used on 
parts of an auto I have acquired and it is almost impossible to sand clean and 
it is a soft paint. Scratches very easy and gums up the sander fast!.
 
 I think I'm going to try the Stewart systems paints and I'll let you know how 
it all turns out.

Thanks again to all
 
Bobby Burington
California KR builder

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Lee Parker <le62...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Gasoline will disolve Rustoleum.  I would't waste my time with spray cans or 
paint that does not use a catalyst.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Peter Drake <p...@kingsland.uk.com> wrote:

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[bobby burington]

From: jscott.pi...@juno.com <jscott.pi...@juno.com>
Jeff Scott Wrote

" This forum never ceases to amaze me. "
 
 
 
Hey don't take it personal Jeff, the forum amazes me too, everyone has 
different experiences and everyone posts their different experiences, as it 
should be and we who are just building learn from all the posts and everyone's 
different experience. Thank you for all the information you have shared, it is 
valuable keep it up.
 
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder

KR> Paint

[bobby burington]

Hello All , 
 
Hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving. I was wondering what everyone was 
using for a primer and finish coat of paint on their planes ?.
 
Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder
 

KR> I'm home

[bobby burington]

Hey Dan,
This is great news . .
I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving and all the turkey and stuffing you 
can hold !! 
 
Happy Thanksgiving.
 
Bobby Burington 
California KR Builder

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Myron (Dan) Freeman <mfreem...@indy.rr.com> wrote:

Hi guys and girls;

I'm home for good now. I got to sleep in my own bed last night and I can
pick and choose my own food for a change. 

Myron (Dan) Freeman 

KR> Careful what you carry with you

[bobby burington]

Hi Lee;

Well in my case I certinly wouldn't pursue it Myron D. Freeman

 
Hi Dan,
 
Looks like you won't have to pursue this. One of the the people I work with is 
the the Fire chief and Emergency services director for the county, he is also 
the Homeland Security director for the county and he got real upset about how 
the EMT at that scene handled himself. He said the EMT had absolutely no reason 
or authority to do what he did and He is planning on calling the airport and 
getting the information on the response company and technicians and filing a 
formal complaint with their director himself.   
 
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder 

 


 


 

KR> KR-2 for sale Reno Craig's list

[bobby burington]

Sory, That's Reno Nevada area . . ..  :-D  
Bobby

, bobby burington <bobbycrea...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: bobby burington <bobbycrea...@yahoo.com>
Subject: KR> KR-2 for sale Reno Craig's list
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 4:19 PM


There is a KR-2 kit ? for sale in the Reno , California area.


here is the link for anyone intrested
 
http://reno.craigslist.org/for/1377952477.html
 
just thought I would pass this along
 
Bobby Burington


      
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KR> KR-2 for sale Reno Craig's list

[bobby burington]

There is a KR-2 kit ? for sale in the Reno , California area.


here is the link for anyone intrested
 
http://reno.craigslist.org/for/1377952477.html
 
just thought I would pass this along
 
Bobby Burington

KR> KR lower price

[bobby burington]

Kr still for sale , lowered the price, anybody intrested at $3,500 ?
 
pictures 
http://www.mypicturehost.com/gallery/196-KR-2-For-Sale/2287_plane1.jpg.html
 
Thanks 
Bobby Burington
 

KR> motor glider wing

[bobby burington]

Hi,
 
To anyone's knowledge has the longer motor glider wing that was developed for 
the KR1 ever been tried or used on a KR2 ?.
 
Thanks
Bobby Burington

KR> KR-2 For Sale

[bobby burington]

Opps,
I guess I should add the plane is in Downieville California.
 
Thanks
Bobby 

KR> KR-2 For Sale

[bobby burington]

Hi All,
 
Ok here is a link to the pictures of the KR-2 for sale , there are some old 
wood scraps laying inside and its a little dirty but it cleans up well and is 
almost ready to fly.
 
I lost my shop and have no place to keep it or work on it anymore and the first 
snow fall is in about 2 months. 
 
http://www.mypicturehost.com/gallery/196-KR-2-For-Sale/2287_plane1.jpg.html
 
 
I am dropping the price to 4,000 ... .
 
Thanks
Bobby

KR> KR-2 for sale

[bobby burington]

Hi, 
Thanks to every one for the response and intrest in the plane,  for thoes who 
asked it is not registered or "n" numbered and there is a nice prop that goes 
with it.  And I found out that I have less time than I though to sell it so I'm 
asking $4,500 for the plane. 

Thanks again

Bobby

KR> Kr for sale

[bobby burington]

Hi all,

I have a KR-2 for sale, it was a flying plane in the test phase, then had a 
hard landing and now needs a few minor repairs along with finishing the engine. 
it has a tri gear and the engine is a VW 1800 greatplanes conversion done at 
the factory. and is brand new because the old engine had a prop strike and as 
shot, so a new engine.

I also have an extra upper and lower KR-2 cowling

I don't have pictures posted yet but if there is intrest I will try to post 
some somewhere. Or I can try to email pictures ?

the plane is located in California near Sacramento and I'm going to ask 
$6,500.00 but I'm open to offers ?.

If anyone is intrested contact me off the net at  
"bobbycrea...@yahoo.com " and I might be able to email pictures.

I picked up the plane thinking I could finnish it and fly it, and I really 
don't think it will take much to get it flying but I just don't have the time 
to work on it or the place to keep it. so I think before it gets wrecked 
sitting out I should move it along. 

thanks
Bobby 

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[bobby burington]

 > From: Richard Hasbrook <has...@mncable.net>

> Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not
> believe I would 
> want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
> Good Luck,
> 
> Dick
> Salol, MN



Hey Dick , 
I feel the same as you do , was gonna offer up central California but gald I 
waited. Not gonna happen now. Its ok for all the US border state KR owners to 
fly to the little KR groupies home gathering but not ok for them to fly more 
than an hour to get their "rootbeer",  But you gotta remember most of these 
guys only fly circles around their home field on sundays and the farthest cross 
country they do is the last tree line you can see from the tower. If they had 
to use a chart or do flight planning for REAL cross country, they would be lost 
and scared and would never make it to your gathering anyway !.

 Bobby Burington
California KR Builder




> From: Richard Hasbrook <has...@mncable.net>

> Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not
> believe I would 
> want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
> Good Luck,
> 
> Dick
> Salol, MN

KR> Anybody flying today?

[bobby burington]

Only on the simulator, Big thunderheads building straight overhead !!.

Have fun !!.

Bobby Burington


> Anybody flying today??  I'm am:-)
> 
> 
> Dana Overall 

KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link

[bobby burington]

Then stop and keep it KR related ., please .
Thanks
Bobby Burington


and I would certainly not care to
> discuss them, especially on this forum.
> 
> Byron Kelly
> Denver, CO

KR> Ivoprop?

[bobby burington]

I have seen other three blade props on a volkswagen, why can this prop not be 
used ?.



--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Willie van der Walt  wrote:

> From: Willie van der Walt 
> Subject: RE: KR> Ivoprop?
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 9:09 PM
> Works well on a Rotax 912 but can not
> be used on a Volkswagen if it is a 3
> blade.

KR> Keeping it outside?

[bobby burington]

HI,

If you have space at home or sometimes the airport will allow, you can rent one 
of thoes 20 foot storage containers for about 60.00 to 80.00 per month and pull 
the wings and keep it in there for the winter months. Thats what I did with 
mine and it worked prety well but there isn't much room to work on it, but it 
will stay dry and protected. You might also consider purchasing an enclosed 
trailer for your plane.

Bobby Burington
California KR Builder



--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Dj Merrill <d...@deej.net> wrote:

> From: Dj Merrill <d...@deej.net>
> Subject: Re: KR> Keeping it outside?
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 7:03 PM
> On 5/19/2009 3:38 PM, Jeff Prozzo
> wrote:
> > Hangering is by far the best!   I can
> do it at Houlton for $60/month.  And I get to leave a
> workbench and tools onsite.   Jeff
> > 
> 
> Hi Jeff,
>     Unfortunately there isn't any rental
> hangar space available here, at
> least not right now (It is $150 per month when it is
> available).  If I
> end up buying a flying KR-2, I'd have to keep it outside
> for awhile,
> which is why I was asking how bad that would be.  It
> might be a year
> before I can get into a hangar, and that means rain, snow,
> and ice here
> in Maine.
> 
>     I can buy wing covers, cabin covers,
> tail covers, and a prop cover.
> Will that be enough, or am I going to ruin the airplane if
> I leave it on
> the ramp?
> 
> -Dj
> 
> -- 
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> Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ     
>     KR-2 Builder N770DJ
> http://deej.net/sportsman/       
>           http://deej.net/kr-2/
> 
> "Many things that are unexplainable happen during the
> construction of an
> airplane."  --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
> 
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KR> Check out my photos on Facebook

[bobby burington]

Hello Jim Ellison,

I have no reason or intention of joining Facebook so please take my email 
address off of your mailing list.

Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder




--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jim Ellison <invite+zz9y6...@facebookmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Ellison <invite+zz9y6...@facebookmail.com>
> Subject: KR> Check out my photos on Facebook
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 6:27 AM
> Hi KRnet,
> 
> I invited you to join Facebook a while back and wanted to
> remind you that once you join, we'll be able to connect
> online, share photos, organize groups and events, and more.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim
> 
> To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below:
> http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1790131543=32LUZZWRWWVM5AE1WK4UTV
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KR> Australian KR Gathering

[bobby burington]

Darren, thats great news,  but I deleted all the links because they didn't 
work, could you re-post them ?,

Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder


--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Darren Crompton <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Darren Crompton <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KR> Australian KR Gathering
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 7:46 PM
> I am told that the linked photos were unable to be viewed.
> 
> This should be fixed now.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> Darren Crompton
> AUSTRALIA
> 
> My web site: www.kr-2s.com
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KR> RE: O2 Gauge

[bobby burington]

Hi  Dan,

Here are some links to try for the O2 gauge with an analog needle 

http://www.turboneonstore.com/customer/product.php?productid=381=0=Y

http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed/Campingart/jettatech/afr/index.htm

http://westach.com/


Hope this helps 
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder

KR> Shop size

[bobby burington]

> -Original Message-
> Subject: KR> Shop size
> 
> I'm getting ready to build a shop and was wondering how
> much room do I need 
> to build a KR2?  My current plans are for 16x20.
> 
> Thank You
> John
>

Hi John,

If you have the space and resources to make the shop a little larger I would do 
it. Think about trying to work on your plane with the door closed in bad 
weather ?
The original KR2 has a length of 14'6" and that doesn't leave much space to get 
around the front or back of the aircraft in a 16' shop and with a wingspan of 
20'8" your 20 foot width won't allow you mount the wings or wing spars for 
construction inside the shop so every time you want to work on it you will have 
to pull it out mount the wings then take the wings and put it all away and only 
in good weather. 

If I were building new construction and had the space and resources I would 
build my shop to be at least 25 foot wide and 20 foot in length, remember that 
you need space for the door frame also, and that way I wouldn't have to crawal 
under the wings every time I want to get from front to back of the shop. 
Actually I ended up using a adjustable ladder placed over the wings to get from 
the front to the rear of the shop but its a little unstable espically when your 
hands are full of parts and tools.   

Just my 2 cents worth

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> What Makes Airplanes Fly

[bobby burington]

Hi Sid,

I think you got it right, I have been working on my KR2 3 1/2 years now and 
with a total investment of about 5,000.00 give or take a couple a hundred. I 
should have it ready to fly this summer. and I did a lot of fishing trips in 
the bass boat too!. Thats why its taking so long to build. saved on the 
groceries though.
But its a small price to pay for a fun flying aircraft !.

Time invested   523 hours
Parts and materials .. $5,000.00
Flight time when its finished ...  Priceless !

Bobby Burington
California KR Builder



--- On Thu, 4/2/09, sidney.w...@l-3com.com <sidney.w...@l-3com.com> wrote:

  So, you wind up trading your time for cash. 
> Or is it cash
> for time?  Anyway, your surplus time/cash gets put into a
> KR to make it
> fly.
> Did I get that right? 
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
> smw...@md.metrocast.net
> 
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KR> Nosewheel weight

[bobby burington]

Thank you to all for the tremendous response and info on the nosewheel weight, 
it is a great help and now I'm back to the drawing board and shop and keep on 
building.

Bobby Burington
California KR builder

KR> Nosewheel weight

[bobby burington]

Hi, 
This question is for the trigear guys. Do any of you know the total weight of 
your plane empty and the amount of weight on the nosewheel ?. 

Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR builder.

KR> Engine Update

[bobby burington]

I know where there is an old engine block in a friends barn that I think has 
been "mice"d in every cylinder !. But we haven't tested it yet.  :-D

Bobby Burington


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Larry Flesner <fles...@verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Flesner <fles...@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: KR> Engine Update
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:05 AM
> >  checked for tolerances, plastigauged, miced, measured,
> tested and retested.
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> ++
> 
> Mark,
> 
> How do you "mice" an engine? :-)
> 
> Is that something I should consider doing to my 0-200? :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> Back to airplane talk

[bobby burington]

Boy , what a view !, thats a real nice looking shop you've got there !, oh and 
the parts are looking good too !.   :) 


--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Dana Overall  wrote:

> From: Dana Overall 
> Subject: KR> Back to airplane talk
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 11:08 AM
> Time to ease this forum back towards airplanes instead of
> chest thumping:
> 
> Here is a synopsis of my weekend:
> 
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=40352
> 
> Dana Overall 
> 
> 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
> Richmond, KY i39
> 
> RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
> Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
> Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
> Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> 
> do not archive 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Theres more to the TSA ruling

[bobby burington]

The TSA wants EVERYONE to get a background check !!. follow the link below

"The directive appear to apply to users of airports that have scheduled air 
carrier service, even if only a single scheduled arrival or departure. In 
short, the directive requires each of these airports to implement programs 
requiring security badges and background checks for ALL pilots based there, and 
for other airport personnel who have unescorted access to the airport. 

Furthermore, some evidence suggests that TSA might expand the requirements to 
include FAA-designated reliever airports, where there is no scheduled airline 
service. "


link here

http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-02-25_airports.asp





--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Kevin Jarvis  wrote:

> From: Kevin Jarvis 
> Subject: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us
 the U.S. Department of Homeland Security make
> it clear that 
> the government considers *all aircraft* to be potential
> threats --- from 
> 747s to hot air balloons.*
> *
> 
> *http://www.eaa.org/govt/tsa.asp
> *
> 
> *Kevin*
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KR> KR plans on ebay

[bobby burington]

Here are three more listings that include the KR-2 on the CD. The add doesn't 
list the KR but I enquired with the seller and shure enough it is there on the 
disk and this is the seller that sold the disk with resale rights to the first 
plans seller a couple of days ago. 

eBay  item #'s   390033631553  260365244701 390033065341


I have filed my complaints with eBay.

Bobby Burington
California KR builder.

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

[bobby burington]

We can report this person to eBay but it most likely won't do any good since 
eBay has a policy that it has to be the copyright holder with proof who reports 
the fraud before they will remove the auction. But if enough people write to 
eBay and the eBay seller he might remove his auction. 

The bigger problem is that the person selling on eBay bought their original CD 
of plans from another company, "Masterplans" with "full resale rights" to all 
the plans on the disk.

 There are several companies mostly in china, that are selling these CD's with 
"full resale rights". The purchasers of the CD's usually know very little if 
anything about aircraft they are just trying to make a few extra dollars in the 
resale business. 

The bigger companies know better and just about as soon as someone tracks them 
down they disappear from the net, then start again later under a new name. Its 
just almost imposable to catch them or stop them. 

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> (no subject)

[bobby burington]

So who was PIC and what happened ?

Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder 


>> >DESCRIPTION2  19  2009
> >   AIRCRAFT NOSED OVER AND STRUCK PROP ON TAKEOF, EL
> MONTE, CA
> 

KR> battery charger

[bobby burington]

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Oscar Zuniga <taildr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs
> died and I snagged it on its way out to the trash. 



Hi Oscar,

Yes it will make a trickle charger for any size battery.

I have salvaged several of the UPS units you are talking about. Generally its 
not the batteries that go bad and you can put thoes small batteries on a 
regular 12 volt charger and recharge them. Normally for me its been the circut 
board that goes bad from power surges or whatever. Sometimes you will find a 
small fuse soldered somewhere on the power supply board or power supply side of 
the main board. If you can solder in a new fuse you might be in business. 

These are not only a trickle charger for batteries but the supply from the 
batteries is a 12 volt to 110 converter for the duplex outlets. I took one of 
the units apart, disconnected the wires from the batteries and then connected 
it back up to the battery in my truck. Leaving the circut boards and 110 
outlets intact. Made a great 110 converter for my truck. I have been thinking 
this arrangement would also give me a really cheap way to put a 110 outlet on 
the panel or somewhere in the KR that I could plug in a laptop or other type 
equipment if I needed to and the weight is small ounces.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> last few flights...

[bobby burington]

He won't need the long range tanks, he's going north to Greenland then a short 
hop over to Iceland then the long flight over the Channel to Scotland
thats about a 750 mile hop. So he should be fine with his wing tanks full.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder


--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ron Smith <mercedesm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Smith <mercedesm...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: KR> last few flights...
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 9:30 PM
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net>
> wrote:
> I'm headed to Andover England Tuesday morning, and will
> be looking
> for British builders/flyers to entertain me while I'm
> there.
> 
> When did you install long range tanks on your plane?
> 
> Ron Smith
> KR2SSXL
> Buckeye Arizona
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> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
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KR> HAPI VW engine conversion on ebay

[bobby burington]

For thoes who might be intrested there is a HAPPI dual ignition VW converted 
engine with virtually zero time.   It includes many free extras. on ebay.

item number 190280869811 and url is  


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem=190280869811=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123

looks good and the price is US $1,800.00  but it sounde like the man will deal 
a little on it.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> Certification

[bobby burington]

Congratulations Josh !!,  to hear another person made it is an inspration to 
all of us who are still building  . . . ..  

Happy Flying
Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder



--- On Fri, 1/16/09, jcho...@ksu.edu <jcho...@ksu.edu> wrote:

> From: jcho...@ksu.edu <jcho...@ksu.edu>
> Subject: KR> Certification
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:04 PM
> Hey everybody, I have some great news on my project! I just
> had my
> airworthiness inspection today and passed with flying
> colors. I got my
> airworthiness certificate and repairman. Now all I'm
> waiting for is a
> nice day to take her up!
> 
> Josh Choitz
> 
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KR> Aircraft Value Question?

[bobby burington]

Hello Josh,

I'm in california and our tax rate is 1%, my KR is valued at 12,000 by the 
assessor and will go up when I change the electronics and right now I pay 
120.00 in tax to the county per year. you county is asking you to pay almost 17 
% in taxes that sounds way to high.
Bobby Burington
California KR builder

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> From: jcho...@ksu.edu <jcho...@ksu.edu>
> Subject: KR> Aircraft Value Question?
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 7:02 AM
> Hi guys,
> 
> Quick question for everyone, hope I am not being intrusive!
> I am dealing
> with property taxes on my KR right now, and I think what
> they want to
> charge me is way too high. I am in Kansas. The appraiser
> has it valued
> at $15000 and wants me to pay $2500 a year in taxes! I
> think this is
> crazy. I have a meeting with the appraiser tomorrow, so any
> input would
> be great. I am trying to gather information on the value of
> other KR's
> so I can have some kind of an argument.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Josh Choitz
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Epoxy and aluminum

[bobby burington]

Hello all,
Does anyone have experience with using epoxy to attach wood and aluminum parts 
together ?. or is there a better glue to bond wood and aluminum ?. or a special 
treatment for the aluminum ?

Thanks 
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder

KR> WIng change and loading

[bobby burington]

Does anyone have a program or a way to calc the wing loading and stress to the 
waf's if the stub wing were shortened to say 5 to 8 inches and the wings were 
built longer to the same overall width as the normal KR. ?

Thanks
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder 

KR> carbon fibre

[bobby burington]

Nothing special ,  same ol resins as used regular for aircraft construction.

Bobby Burington


> > WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF I USE CARBON FIBRE
> INSTEAD OF KR FIBREGLASS IS THERE ANY SPECIAL RESIGN THAT I
> SHOULD USE FOR THE CARBON FIBRE.OTHER THAN THE NORMAL
> RESIGNS BEING USED FOR FIBRE GLASS
> >

KR> Electric motor ?

[bobby burington]

Hi KR Netters,

I have been thinking about the idea of using an electric motor in the KR2, I 
haven't been able to come up with much information even though I know these 
type of power plants are out there.

 Has anyone worked with the idea of using an electric motor in the KR2 ?. Or 
would anyone have any good idea of where to start looking ?.

Thanks
Bobby Burington
CAlifornia KR Builder

KR> 2180 cc. VW on ebay

[bobby burington]

Hi all,

 For any one intrested there is a 2180 cc. VW Experimental Aircraft engine  on 
ebay currently at $1,000.00  it is located in  Deland, Fl, United States. the 
ebay URL is 

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem=230303220191=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123=

Have a look 

Bobby Burington
California KR Builder

KR> Re: KR2 Plans/Drawings on ebay

[bobby burington]

I contacted the seller of the KR drawings on ebay, and he is in Russia and 
bought resale rights and is just selling the link address to another Russian 
site that has coppied a great many of the popular homebuilt aircraft drawings 
into a full size PDF format. This site is selling the drawings and plans of the 
KR and many others.

here is the link for all who would like 

  http://stroimsamolet.ru/drawings.php

The KR is listed about 2/3 down on the list on the left side of the web page.

It's not right but I think this kind of thing is going on in many countries 
more and more.

Bobby Burington
California KR builder

KR> 28# wings????

[bobby burington]

Hello Robin,

  Is you newsletter the KR Newsletter ?, and are they talking about a KR-1  or 
KR-2 ?. Also who was answering the questions ?.

  thanks
  Bobby

Robin Macdonald  wrote:
  Dan,

I found the newsletter Aug 83 pge 2, Q & A

Q, What should the wings & tail weigh.

A, My wings were 28lbs with ailerons installed & without balance weights.
Rudder was 3lbs, Horiz Stab 7 lbs, Elevator 5lbs.

Robin.



> I am not sure that I would believe the 28# wings. Almost half.. I
> weighed mine, no tank, 50#.
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
> has begun.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> ---Original Message---
>
> In an early KR newsletter someone's wings came in at 28lbs.
>


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KR> soon to be for sale 1835VW

[bobby burington]

Hi ,
  I would like to see the pictures of your motor and get a price if you have 
one figured out yet.
  Thanks
  Bobby

Lee Van Dyke  wrote:
  If anybody will be looking for a Good Running VW 1835 from the Hapi case 
forward, get ready. I have a Hapi 1835 new flywheel and generator, geared 
starter, carb, slick mag, elec ign, prop and spinner. I will putting it up for 
sale soon. If anybody wants to see photos or a video of it running let me know.


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[bobby burington]

HI,
  I looked through about 500 entries and couldn't find any info on floats. Has 
anyone put floats on their KR, or does anyone have any information on floats 
for the KR-2 ?. 
  Thanks
  Robert


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KR> Any trailer plans for KR's

[bobby burington]

Hi 
  I tried to search the KR archives but it isn't working right now so I will 
try a little later, but does anyone have a good set of plans ( or know of any 
),  or good pictures, for a trailer for the KR-2 and a good way to hold the 
wings? preferably a covered trailer.

  thanks
  Bobby


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KR> KR2 FOR SALE

[bobby burington]

HI Randy,
How much are you asking for the plane ? and where are you located ?

thanks
Robert


- Original Message 
From: randy white 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:52:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2 FOR SALE


yes i know this you have to click on the empty boxes to open them!!!then 
yiou can see them!!! thanx Randy

>From: "Darren Crompton" 
>Reply-To: KRnet 
>To: KRnet 
>Subject: Re: KR> KR2 FOR SALE
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:53:18 +1000
>
>Hi Randy
>
>Your site isn't showing the pics on the front page.
>
>I have had a look and to fix this you will need to make changes to the
>index.html page.  Remove all the "sitebuilder/" entries that are before 
>your
>small images.  eg "sitebuilder/images/100_0136-400x247.jpg" to
>"images/100_0136-400x247.jpg" and your small images eg. "100_0136-
>400x247.jpg" on your computer will have to be moved to the "images"
>directory on the server.
>
>Hope this makes sense.
>
>
>On 4/19/07, randy white  wrote:
> >
> > I have a KR2 that has been rebuilt!!! it has airworthy certificate!!! it
> > will be done in a few months and will be for sale,I will be painting it 
>a
> > another few weeks, if there is a interest in it from somebody i would
> > paint
> > it the way you want!!! just a heads up for anyone interested!!! you can
> > see
> > the construction pics at my site i have updated pics but not yet on my
> > site!!! you have to click on my pics to open them thanx Randy White
> > http://www.randyskr2.com
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>--
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KR> wing airfoil shape

[bobby burington]

Hi to all, 
I have discovered a small problem with one of the wings on this plane project I 
have sort of inherited , the rear spar is about 3/16 shy of what is called for 
in the plans and the airfoil is slightly misshapen because of this.
This condition only goes out to the second rib, after that everything looks to 
smooth out nicely . I wouldn't think that 3/16 off the spar would be cause 
structural concern, of corse I'm not an enginer either so I really don't know,  
but it looks ugly and I'm sure will change the airflow so I do need to fix it. 
I am thinking I can glue down a layer of foam and shape that to the proper 
shape of the wing and glass over the whole thing and smooth it all out. 
any thoughts ?.

Thanks
Robert

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KR> wing airfoil shape

[bobby burington]

Hello Mark, 

  thanks for the input ,

  I have posted some pictures of the wing. its kind of hard to see how bad the 
distortion is from the pictures but I tried.

  here's the link  http://bobskr.white.prohosting.com/  

  the wing already has a thin skin of fiberglass over it so if I do as you 
suggest I will have to sand down to the spar, then glue in a new piece of wood 
over the spar cap then re-glass the wing skin. ?.  Then will it hurt to make 
the new Spar cap a little wider so the old skn will lay over it when re-glasing 
?.

  Thanks 
  Robert

  bobby burington wrote:

> I have discovered a small problem with one of the wings on this plane 
> project I have sort of inherited , the rear spar is about 3/16 shy of what 
> is called for in the plans and the airfoil is slightly misshapen because 
> of this.

If you are saying that the spar is not tall enough, you need to use T-88 or 
some other suitable epoxy to glue some more wood on top of the spars, rather 
than use foam to make up the difference to get to the airfoil profile. The 
skin's connection to the rest of the plane is done through the spar cap, and 
foam cannot support the load (it is structurally "useless").



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KR> wing airfoil shape

[bobby burington]

Sory about that, this is my first time web building,  but here is another link 
to the pictures and I think this one will work. I hope.

  http://bobskr.white.prohosting.com/wing.htm

  thanks
  Bob

Darren Crompton <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com> wrote:
  The link takes me to the freeprohosting page and not to your photo.


On 4/23/07, bobby burington wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> thanks for the input ,
>
> I have posted some pictures of the wing. its kind of hard to see how bad
> the distortion is from the pictures but I tried.
> the wing already has a thin skin of fiberglass over it so if I do as you
> suggest I will have to sand down to the spar, then glue in a new piece of
> wood over the spar cap then re-glass the wing skin. ?. Then will it hurt to
> make the new Spar cap a little wider so the old skn will lay over it when
> re-glasing ?.
>
> Thanks
> Robert
>
> bobby burington wrote:
>
> > I have discovered a small problem with one of the wings on this plane
> > project I have sort of inherited , the rear spar is about 3/16 shy of
> what
> > is called for in the plans and the airfoil is slightly misshapen because
> > of this.
>
> If you are saying that the spar is not tall enough, you need to use T-88
> or
> some other suitable epoxy to glue some more wood on top of the spars,
> rather
> than use foam to make up the difference to get to the airfoil profile. The
> skin's connection to the rest of the plane is done through the spar cap,
> and
> foam cannot support the load (it is structurally "useless").


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KR> Glue Joints not holding

[bobby burington]

Hey there,

  I have brand new System Three , T-88 , from Aircraft Spruce and has been in 
the house for about a month and I just opened it last night and tried it out.  
for a test I cut a 1 1/2 inch peice of 5/8 stock and a 2x3 inch of ply skin.  

  The two parts of T-88 are just like yours , one part clear and one part amber 
before mixing and a milky , off white , very slightly yellowish color after 
mixing the two as per instructions. Slightly thicker than honey.  I glued the 
5/8 stock to the ply and used small spring clamps to hold. 

  this morning I checked it and the color of the T-88 that squezed out of the 
glue joint has changed back to a clear amber color , so I grabed the pliers and 
clamped on to the two parts and tried to pull the joint apart. The joint was 
solid and all I could do was to rip the ply away from the edge of the joint 
leaving a 5/8 stock with a ply skin still glued on one side. no way is the 
joint comming apart. 

  Tonight I will try end or but joints with the 5/8 stock, with and without  
gussets and I will let you know the results of that tomarrow.

  Robert



Brad Payne  wrote:
  To Clarify, After Mixing, my T88 is a milky off-white almost like
toothpaste. The viscosity is like thick honey. Prior to mixing the resin
is clear and thick and the hardner is the color of honey and slightly more
fluid than the resin. Sometimes it becomes slightly warm while mixing or
very shortly after.

What color is your T88 after mixing?

Thanks!


Phil Matheson said:

> I do not understand the mix ( uniform white paste)

>The T88 I have used was an amber colour, and mixed up to a honey
consistency.


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KR> Glue Joints not holding

[bobby burington]

Hello Brad, 

  Well my tests are done and I'm satisfied with the results. I did try mixing 
the two parts different ways but even mixing on a hard plastic surface with a 
plastic stir stick, as soon as the two parts mix together they do turn a milky, 
slightly yellowish color. Mix fast or slow always the same. After about an hour 
or two the color changes back to the clear amber. 

  The new epoxy results were always the same , and the amber colored hardener 
is definitely thicker than the clear resin. 

  As far as the bond strength, even the butt joint with no gusset, I had to use 
a lot of force to break apart and though it did separate at the joint, it was 
the surrounding wood that gave way, the actual glue bond never separated.

  With any type of gusset, it wasn't coming apart with out considerable damage 
to the wood surrounding the joint. 

  And this is all the day after it was glued, the epoxy will get stronger as it 
cures over the next few days.  I am glad I did these tests , I will have a lot 
more confidence riding around at 10,000 feet in an airplane that is only glued 
together.

  So maybe your wood was contaminated in some way ? , have you tried gluing a 
couple of old 2x4's or some other wood than the spruce together ?, and if the 
hardener is thinner than the resin, maybe the hardener could be bad ?.  If 
that's the case, contact the company and they will probably send you some new 
epoxy.

  Robert



Brad Payne  wrote:
  To Clarify, After Mixing, my T88 is a milky off-white almost like
toothpaste. The viscosity is like thick honey. Prior to mixing the resin
is clear and thick and the hardner is the color of honey and slightly more
fluid than the resin. Sometimes it becomes slightly warm while mixing or
very shortly after.

What color is your T88 after mixing?

Thanks!


Phil Matheson said:

> I do not understand the mix ( uniform white paste)

>The T88 I have used was an amber colour, and mixed up to a honey
consistency.


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KR> Sell my KR

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Hello all,
If I were to sell my KR I would take a couple of pictures and then list it on 
the KR Forum and on Craigs list.  . ..  I have never posted on the KR Forum but 
I just sold my sailboat on Craigs list and bought some KR parts down in 
Sacramento from Craigs list. It's easy and you can post a description and 4 
pictures to most any city area in the US and best of all its free.
http://www.craigslist.org/about/cities.html
Good Luck

Robert Burington


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To: KRnet 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:48:56 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Sell my KR


LOL. I hate to sell mine too, but I put it up for sale on the KR Forum 
yesterday.  I also attached a couple of pictures of it.

The engine log book says the it... a VW, Type 4... was built up by your 
dad..Robet Muse, Sr...in 1992?.

I have been inactive for the last 5-6 years, but I sold my Grumman AA1A via 
Trade A Plane... in 1999, I think.  That was before Barn Stormers and E Bay 
became popular.

Good luck.

Thurman Longcrier 

-Original Message-
>From: ROBERT E JR & BEVERL MUSE 
>Sent: Apr 13, 2007 1:25 PM
>To: krnet 
>Subject: KR> Sell my KR
>
>I hate to do it but I need to sell my KR2.  Does anyone have any suggestions 
>on what is the best way to sell my baby (N122B)?
>
>Thanks, Bobby Muse
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KR> Wing tie downs

[bobby burington]

Has anyone put tie downs in their wings ?.

I am presently sanding down a first and very rough coat of glass off the wings. 
I would like to install tie downs somewhere in the outer wing sections and I 
have found and read about a half dozen entries on the KRnet about doing this, 
but most didn't sound to reasonable and kinda sketchy about how they were done. 
So if there is anyone who has done this in a way that works well and looks good 
and won't slow down the plane I shure would like to know how you made em.

Thanks
Robert

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KR> Landing Gear

[bobby burington]

Hello,

I see from the construction photos that it looks like most builders are using 
the fixed tri gear up front and not the retractable .  Wouldn't the retractable 
gear increase the speed of the aircraft ?. 

Since I haven't quite made a choice yet, can you guys give me some feed back on 
the different types of  landing gear ?, pros and cons and why you picked the 
gear type you did ?.

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KR> KR2 for sale

[bobby burington]

hello all,
  I don't know how many have seen it but there is a KR2 for sale on Ebay, for 
all who might be intrested. 

  here is the link  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1==130091802251

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KR> KR2S plans

[bobby burington]

Hello All,

I have found an old VW motor in the back of a neighbors garage but I'm not 
shure where the numbers are or what numbers to look for to tell the model 
number or if it is a usable motor. So hopefully someone out there can email 
with the location of the numbers and what to look for.  Or, if you could tell 
me a referance book to get on the VW motor that has all the info, I could do 
that also.

Thanks
Bobby
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KR> VW motor id

[bobby burington]

Thanks for the info, 
 I cleaned off the the cob webs and dust and found a number up by the pullys,  
B6078925.  so now I will go looking on the net for motor identification and see 
what it is.  
Thanks again

Bobby


- Original Message 
From: Myron (Dan) Freeman 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:18:08 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR2S plans


Hi Bobby;

It's usually located on the top of the case (or block) near the oil fill 
area (pulley end) or on some it may be on the top near the flywheel end. 
I've seen them in different locations but always on the top of the block to 
the best of my knowledge.

Regards
Myron (Dan) Freeman
Indpls, Ind. 46203 USA. Home of the
2007 World Champion Indpls, Colt's
mfreem...@indy.rr.com
Posted - Sunday, 03/25/07 5:17 pm 


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KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

[bobby burington]

My plane is being built using Doug Fir.,  its a little harder to work with and 
splinters eaiser but a fine wood for a plane.
  Bobby

Russ Kendall  wrote:
  Lots of airplanes have been built using Douglas Fir. It's a little heavier,
but also stronger than spruce.
Russ
- Original Message -
From: "Darren Crompton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:37 AM
Subject: KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir


> I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am
> seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. The spruce
> kit machined and delivered from an interstate supplier (Australia) is
going
> to cost $3,000AU ($2,365US). Douglas fir on the other hand will be about
> 1/2 that price.
>
> >From what I have seen, fir will be about 15% heavier and is also
stronger.
> I am a fairly light fella at 155lb and my girlfriend is 110lb, (don't let
> her know I shared that piece of information with the entire Internet!), so
> weight gained by using fir can be more than offset by our light frames.
>
> I'd appreciate some opinions on my choice.
>
> Thanks.
> Darren Crompton
> AUSTRALIA
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KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

[bobby burington]

Hello Jeff,

  I actually milled my own lumber for my plane.  I live in the middle of a 
national forest and I am lucky enough to have a neighbor down the road with a 
large saw mill. So we picked logs with a good grain and he rough cut the logs 
to lumber size plus a little, then I stacked and dried the lumber and then I 
milled it to the exact size I wanted. 

  I was able to pick the most premimum boards with the right grain for building 
the plane.  

  heres a good EAA article with info and reference to mil spec bulletins that 
would be good to get.   
http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/octbuilding.html   ...

  I also have a cd with a lot of good info on wood types and uses along with a 
lot of other construction information and I'd be happy to send a copy of it to 
you'd like, just let me know your mailing address.

  There is an eaiser way,  I have also been checking the local lumber store 
down the hill and if you pick through their best kiln dried, straight grained 
clear (no knots or flaws), lumber stock,  they have a lot of useable quality 
doug fir lumber that meets specs.  

  Bobby



wilder_jeff Wilder <wilder_j...@msn.com> wrote: 
  where did you find the Fir that meets AC quality?



-Jeff Wilder
CISSP,CCE,C/EH



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>My plane is being built using Doug Fir., its a little harder to work with 
>and splinters eaiser but a fine wood for a plane.
> Bobby
>
>Russ Kendall wrote:
> Lots of airplanes have been built using Douglas Fir. It's a little 
>heavier,
>but also stronger than spruce.
>Russ
>- Original Message -
>From: "Darren Crompton"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:37 AM
>Subject: KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir
>
>
> > I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am
> > seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. The 
>spruce
> > kit machined and delivered from an interstate supplier (Australia) is
>going
> > to cost $3,000AU ($2,365US). Douglas fir on the other hand will be about
> > 1/2 that price.
> >
> > >From what I have seen, fir will be about 15% heavier and is also
>stronger.
> > I am a fairly light fella at 155lb and my girlfriend is 110lb, (don't 
>let
> > her know I shared that piece of information with the entire Internet!), 
>so
> > weight gained by using fir can be more than offset by our light frames.
> >
> > I'd appreciate some opinions on my choice.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Darren Crompton
> > AUSTRALIA
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KR> What is wrong with Rand Robinson???

[bobby burington]

Ron I'm with you, this argument belongs somewhere else, 

  and Nick , if you would like,  I have an extra set of plans that I would be 
happy to mail to you to start looking over and get started, if you agree to 
return them when your set gets there. send an email to my own email address 
with your postal mailing address if you want me to mail them.

  I have my own set that I am working from, milled every part of lumber and 
most all of the metal parts totally from scratch myself. It is a fun project.

  Robert

Ronald Wright  wrote:
  Suggest you take this argument off=list.. The
gentleman was only airing his disgust with the way RR
was handling the situation.. Telling someone they are
going to go in the mail today PRIORITY MAIL and 11
days later still no plans; seems like he has a very
good beef with RR..

Why are you guys trying to run off someone who wants
to build the KR??

Ron


--- "Dave Arbogast, CISSP" wrote:

> LOL  Well either tomorrow we'll hear from
> people who have a life 
> and you're in the minority, or you reflect the
> group's sentiments and we 
> don't belong here or driving the KR2...
> 
> -dave
> 
> oldbiker...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >NOT RED
>
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KR> YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA, Unbelievable!!!!!

[bobby burington]

Congratulations !!,  and happy flying,
 I'm still building and looking foward to the day !.

  Bobby Burington
  Downieville California

Jaco Swanepoel <jacosw...@vodamail.co.za> wrote:
  Hi Guys,
I became a KR pilot today. Piet and I took off on runway 11, left out, reached 
circuit altitude on late crosswind and all of this at a gross of 1350lbs. We 
flew overhead the field for 43 minutes. I made some steep turns, dive and pitch 
recovery and Piet threw some yaws my way by playing with the rudder. I managed 
to control everything he threw my way. To end the exercise, I had 10 minutes of 
fun flying. Our next flight is on Tuesday morning. I can't wait.
YEEHA!

Jaco Swanepoel
KR2S, ZU-DVP
Pretoria
South Africa

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