KR> Brainless Posters

2016-06-26 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
Only thing that needs to me added to this thread is that insulting Larry
Flasner is not going to make you any friends here.  He is one of the
nicest people on this list and he has helped more people in the KR world
than can be said.

Brian Kraut



KR> Brainless Posters

2016-06-26 Thread laser147 at juno.com
Larry said, 

"I feel your frustration but using a firing squad to encourage change
will only result in less participation."

Being nice to these morons may very well reduce participation - as Martha
would say, "that's a good thing."  Mark rightly mentions it doesn't do
any good.   You can't improve intelligence by entertaining stupidity. 
You can only offend them sufficiently that they go away.  These
double-digits would last five minutes on Beechtalk.  Considering what
they contribute, less participation would be a positive, not a negative. 


Notice the quality of response of those offended by my "firing squad"
post - fat drunks who can't operate a keyboard or their smartphones, much
less an aircraft - what does their participation contribute?  

I'm out on this issue.  I thought a little shock therapy might work, but
since Mark is too nice a guy to send these guys back to the swamp, I
guess it's hopeless.  

Mike
KSEE


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2016-06-26 Thread Bill Jacobs

Pardon me but I obviously I am so lower class that I don't get your snide ass 
remarks.Your pissing and mooning about the KR so. maybe your tired of it?OR 
you just want everybody to think the KR isn't worthy of your time.Any 
way..I simple no.I think I might keep it would have been 
fine..??DON'T BE A JACK ASS!RegardsBill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl. 

On Saturday, June 25, 2016 6:42 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet  wrote:



? ? "Wanna sell it?
Bill Jacobs"

How about taking your private business propositions off net and also
learning how to put a subject in the subject line and not re-posting the
entire message you are referring/replying to?? It screws up our very
valuable archives when you do stupid stuff like that.? I'm not the
moderator but Mark gets pretty sick of keeping things organized and
devoid of this kind of crap . . . and it's no fun constantly trying to
educate the idiots.? 

There seems to be a swarm of old farts with dementia showing up lately. 
Go screw up some other forums for a change.? Please.? 

Mike
KSEE


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2016-06-25 Thread Mark Langford
Larry Flesner wrote:

 > This might be a good time for Mark to re-post  the net rules and
 > everyone take a deep breath and "read and heed".

I guess I've given up on that.  Although I think it's very important to 
minimize repetition of prior messages (to keep from having to search 
through the same messages over and over again because your keyword was 
reposted 7 times by somebody too lazy to spend a few seconds deleting 
them), pleading with people has no apparent effect.  The advent of 
smartphones and users who don't know how to operate them (or don't care 
how long it takes others to search the archive) has made it far worse. 
Every new member is sent a copy of the rules, and there's a link to the 
rules (http://www.krnet.org/info.html) at the bottom of every email the 
system sends out.  It makes no difference.

And every time I send out a copy of the rules, it gets quiet for a few 
days while the inconsiderate ones (or the ones who don't know how to 
truncate their posts) lay low until they forget about it, and then it 
goes back to normal.  Another rule is "give us some idea of who you are 
or where you're from in your signature, at least something to help us 
keep up with who is who.  But like I said, I give up.

But just to make Larry happy, and because apparently nobody's ever seem 
them before, below are the rules.  This doesn't mean the list should go 
dead silent for three days, it just means please be considerate of those 
who come after you and search desperately for a morsel of assistance, so 
they don't spend five times as long searching through the same exact 
posts.  PLEASE read these and at leave give some slight effort toward 
following them...
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KRNetiquette

We have a few folks who feel compelled to comment on just about every 
post made, and I can only be thankful that all 800 of us don't do that, 
or we'd be wading through several thousand emails a day! Please be 
considerate of your fellow KRNetHeads. A few of us would do well to heed 
the following advice:

1) Think long and hard before you publicly flame somebody on this list. 
This list may not be like others you've been on. We don't do that here, 
period. If you have a personal problem with another lister, you need to 
address it off the list and spare the rest of us your angst. If you 
disagree with something somebody else posted, you can disagree in a nice 
manner without getting all bent out of shape. Just point out your side 
of the discussion and let others be the judge. Public flaming and 
superfluous bad language will not be tolerated.

2) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key 
sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to 
search thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some 
clown wrote "me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from 
previous posts also gives people fits when searching the archives later, 
as they end up getting 10 hits for the same message.

3) Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what 
you're replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it 
works great" doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's 
talking about, so please cut and paste some of what you're replying to 
above your comments.

4) Carefully consider whether or not you even need to reply to a post. 
Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it 
just makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're 
talking about, maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There 
are FEW people who know everything about everything. Try to stick to 
things you KNOW about, and let others answer the rest. A corollary to 
this is if you find yourself making more than five posts in a single 
day, you probably need to "stifle yourself"!

5) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover 
the whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an 
issue, and make it a post that others will want to save or print out and 
keep. Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet.

6) Put your name and email address in your signature to make emailing 
others "offnet" easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our 
posts, it would be far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click 
on it, if it's not, cut it and paste it into the "To" box. If throwing 
your email address out on the internet makes you nervous (and it 
should), camoflage it a little by replacing the @ symbol with "at", or 
something similar, so that bot crawlers won't know what to do with it.

7) If you don't have anything substantial to say, please don't post 
anything. This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused 
on KRs, or at least airplanes. With over 600 people on the list, if we 
all decided to say something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask 
yourself "do 600 people really need to see this, or are 600 people going 
to be annoyed by 

KR> Brainless posters

2016-06-25 Thread Larry Flesner
At 05:40 PM 6/25/2016, you wrote:
>
> "Wanna sell it?
>Bill Jacobs"
>
>How about taking your private business propositions off net and also
>learning how to put a subject in the subject line and not re-posting the
>entire message you are referring/replying to?
>Mike
+

Mike,

I feel your frustration but using a firing squad to encourage change 
will only result in less participation.

How about something like:

Please people, learn to find the e-mail address of the individual you 
wish to respond to buried in the original post and don't reply to the 
600+ people on the net.  Change the subject if you intend to change 
the content.  Delete everything in the post that is not necessary 
like all the crap added at the end of the post.  A three word reply 
to an individual with all the original post really screws things 
up.  Remind everyone the web address for net rules gets posted once a 
month.  Please take the time to read and follow.  Diplomacy and a bit 
of tolerance is not a bad thing.  Just as some thought my post on 
Microsoft was not relevant I assumed everyone participating on the 
net does so with a computer and hours spent working on computer 
problems means less time to work on projects or, better yet, go flying.

This might be a good time for Mark to re-post  the net rules and 
everyone take a deep breath and "read and heed".

Larry Flesner 




KR> Brainless posters

2016-06-25 Thread laser147 at juno.com

"Wanna sell it?
Bill Jacobs"

How about taking your private business propositions off net and also
learning how to put a subject in the subject line and not re-posting the
entire message you are referring/replying to?   It screws up our very
valuable archives when you do stupid stuff like that.  I'm not the
moderator but Mark gets pretty sick of keeping things organized and
devoid of this kind of crap . . . and it's no fun constantly trying to
educate the idiots.   

There seems to be a swarm of old farts with dementia showing up lately. 
Go screw up some other forums for a change.  Please.  

Mike
KSEE


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