KR> Great plains

[jscott.planes at gmx.com]

So, the question is, who owns Great Plains now, and where are they located?

KR> Great plains

[Ken Hurley]

Don Grow and Art Box are the owners of Great Plains. Founder Steve Bennett
sold to Marty Roberts, who has sold the business to Don and Art. They are
located in Afton, OK. I have been to their shop, so I know they are up and
running. Maybe not as smooth as they would like but still up and running.

Don, Art, and Marty will be at Oshkosh (they won't have a booth this year)
but Marty will have his 5th wheel and that will be the meeting area for
Great Plains.

Here is the web site for their company:
http://www.greatplainsas.com/
http://www.greatplainsas.com/scorder.html

Great Plains Aircraft
Supply Co.

Tel 402 493 6507

info at greatplainsas.com

Even though Marty isn't a partner he is still involved with Great Plains.
Marty, my friend Mike Arnold and I took one of my VW motors to GP and we
re-built my 1835.

I think you'll be pleased with the new owners, especially when the rough
spots get smoothed out. They are expanding their inventory and getting the
right people in the right places.

I hope this info helps. I'll continue to do business with them in the
future!




Thanks

Ken Hurley
kenhurley50 at gmail.com
417-343-6888

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KR> Great plains

[Daniel Heath]

I love the former and current owner of Great Plains.  They are both very
good people, but I understand.  I did a fair amount of my VW business with
Revmaster.  Joe Horvath and his staff are first rate.  You will not
experience that kind of frustration when doing business with them.  In this
business, they are one of the few gems.



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Subject: KR> Great plains



I hear all you guys say good things about Great Plains and there engines but
I have to say I am very disappointed in the company at this point. I sent my
case out for machine work two months ago and the gentleman on the phone told
me they would have it back to me in 21 days. They do not communicate things
very well and every time I call he always tells me the same thing it's
sitting in the parts cleaner and it's next on the list. So who here has a
better alternative because I'm not sure I want to use that company for parts
or anything at this point my kr will never get off the ground if I keep
waiting on them.

Cody CramerMiddleburg, FL





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KR> Great plains

[Mark Langford]

Most of us know that Marty Roberts took over GPASC about a year ago, but 
it changed hands again a few months ago, so I'm told.  It turns out that 
there's a lot to running this international business, and it's quite an 
effort, even for two people.  The current owner is still climbing the 
learning curve, and is likely buried with a lot more business than he 
expected...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

KR> Great plains

[Chris Kinnaman]

Thanks Mark, I didn't know Great Plains had sold again.

Chris

On 7/15/2016 4:47 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote:
> Most of us know that Marty Roberts took over GPASC about a year ago, 
> but it changed hands again a few months ago, so I'm told.  It turns 
> out that there's a lot to running this international business, and 
> it's quite an effort, even for two people.  The current owner is still 
> climbing the learning curve, and is likely buried with a lot more 
> business than he expected...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
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KR> Great plains

[codylee.cramer]

I hear all you guys say good things about Great Plains and there engines but I 
have to say I am very disappointed in the company at this point. I sent my case 
out for machine work two months ago and the gentleman on the phone told me they 
would have it back to me in 21 days. They do not communicate things very well 
and every time I call he always tells me the same thing it's sitting in the 
parts cleaner and it's next on the list. So who here has a better alternative 
because I'm not sure I want to use that company for parts or anything at this 
point my kr will never get off the ground if I keep waiting on them.
Cody CramerMiddleburg, FL


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KR> Great Plains

[CHRIS GARDNER]

Good Luck Steve and Linda on your future adventures!?I'm sure I speak for?all 
of us here that have dealt with you in the past for VW parts etc. when I say 
that we appreciate the many years of excellent support that you both 
provided.?Happy Trails ! Enjoy your retirement!?RegardsChris GardinerC-GKRZ? 

 On Monday, February 2, 2015 3:19 PM, STEVE via KRnet  wrote:


 Steve is not the youngest kid on the block anymore.? An opportunity came along 
to sell Great Plains to Marty Roberts that was good for both of us.? Linda and 
our son Scott will continue to do the landing gear, wheels, brakes, tires and 
tubes (OKeefeAero.com).? Linda and I both have a desire to do a little sight 
seeing around the US with our F350 and 5th wheel, and the sale of Great Plains 
to Marty will allow us to do that.

Marty is pretty well up and running.? He has all the parts for direct drive 
engines and most of the parts for flywheel drive engines (not to be confused 
with rear drive where we had the housing and dampener).? He only has to have 
some hubs made for the flywheel drive. He has all the individual engine parts, 
bearings, cases, heads, Force One Hub kits, dual ignition, etc... and of course 
the Diehl Accessory Case Components.? All the parts that Linda and I carried - 
Marty has or will have them also.

In October of 2014, we sold all of our Sonerai parts to Fred Keip.? Fred has 
been the Sonerai Newsletter Editor for many years and has built and flown his 
Sonerai II for well over 1000 hours, VW powered of course.
Fred has the same products that we sold for the Sonerai Family of aircraft, so 
it was a smooth transition also.

Linda is updating the Great Plains catalog and it will be back on line in a 
couple of weeks.? It was out of date - price wise and did not match the 
shopping cart prices.

Linda and I are in the background, helping Marty and Ellen (Marty's wife) do as 
smooth of a transition as possible.

Our goal was to transition the parts to individuals that would continue to 
support the homebuilt community.? Too many times when a sport aircraft company 
is sold, the new owners fail and leaves many homebuilders without support of 
the product/s they purchased from the company.? We did/do not want that to 
happen.

Steve Bennett





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KR> Great Plains

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Thank You Steve. K R Dinners, Gatherings and all that.
 ENJOY, Virg


 On 2/2/2015 3:18 PM, STEVE via KRnet wrote:
> Steve is not the youngest kid on the block anymore.  An opportunity came 
> along to sell Great Plains to Marty Roberts that was good for both of us.  
> Linda and our son Scott will continue to do the landing gear, wheels, brakes, 
> tires and tubes (OKeefeAero.com).  Linda and I both have a desire to do a 
> little sight seeing around the US with our F350 and 5th wheel, and the sale 
> of Great Plains to Marty will allow us to do that.
>   
>
>
> Steve Bennett
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KR> Great Plains

[STEVE]

Steve is not the youngest kid on the block anymore.  An opportunity came along 
to sell Great Plains to Marty Roberts that was good for both of us.  Linda and 
our son Scott will continue to do the landing gear, wheels, brakes, tires and 
tubes (OKeefeAero.com).  Linda and I both have a desire to do a little sight 
seeing around the US with our F350 and 5th wheel, and the sale of Great Plains 
to Marty will allow us to do that.

Marty is pretty well up and running.  He has all the parts for direct drive 
engines and most of the parts for flywheel drive engines (not to be confused 
with rear drive where we had the housing and dampener).  He only has to have 
some hubs made for the flywheel drive. He has all the individual engine parts, 
bearings, cases, heads, Force One Hub kits, dual ignition, etc... and of course 
the Diehl Accessory Case Components.  All the parts that Linda and I carried - 
Marty has or will have them also.

In October of 2014, we sold all of our Sonerai parts to Fred Keip.  Fred has 
been the Sonerai Newsletter Editor for many years and has built and flown his 
Sonerai II for well over 1000 hours, VW powered of course.
Fred has the same products that we sold for the Sonerai Family of aircraft, so 
it was a smooth transition also.

Linda is updating the Great Plains catalog and it will be back on line in a 
couple of weeks.  It was out of date - price wise and did not match the 
shopping cart prices.

Linda and I are in the background, helping Marty and Ellen (Marty's wife) do as 
smooth of a transition as possible.

Our goal was to transition the parts to individuals that would continue to 
support the homebuilt community.  Too many times when a sport aircraft company 
is sold, the new owners fail and leaves many homebuilders without support of 
the product/s they purchased from the company.  We did/do not want that to 
happen.

Steve Bennett

KR> Great Plains electronic ignition

[laser147 at juno.com]

"The Compufire electronic ignition on my 2180 VW from Great Plains uses
0.6 
to 7.9 amps, idle to wide open throttle, as displayed on my instrument
panel 
ammeter.  The more sparks it makes, the more juice it takes."

I may be mis-remembering, but Steve Bennett once told me it was just the
opposite.  Idling/low RPM drew more juice from the battery than when
turning at higher RPM's.  

Mike
KSEE

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KR> great plains flywheel and alternator kit

[Travis Berry]

i had to buy a ststor  for my kr the bolts back out of it and chew it up i 
bought it from onanparts it goes on a cummins generator i thank 

> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:27 +
> From: pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> great plains flywheel and alternator kit
> 
> on a bit of a budget here -anyone got a 
> great planes flywheel
> and alternator and rec /reg 
> mag drive 
> 
> i am replacing hapi parts 
> e mail me pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk
> 
> phil brookman
> 
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KR> great plains flywheel and alternator kit

[airgu...@comcast.net]

I fly behind a HAPI and have had two of the GP units let go on me. I get pieces 
of the magnets coming out as something doesn't align perfectly. I'm going to 
try Marks Denso alternator from ole John Deere. 

Paul OReilly 
KR2 Stretched 
N7970K 
Derry, NH 

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To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:35:27 AM 
Subject: KR> great plains flywheel and  alternator  kit 

on a bit of a budget here -anyone got a 
great planes flywheel 
  and alternator  and rec  /reg 
mag drive 

i am replacing hapi parts 
 e mail me pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk 

phil brookman 



       
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KR> great plains flywheel and alternator kit

[Craig Williams]

try here   http://deej.net/forsale/

--- On Mon, 1/17/11, phil brookman <pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: phil brookman <pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: KR> great plains flywheel and  alternator  kit
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 8:35 AM
> on a bit of a budget here -anyone got
> a 
> great planes flywheel
>   and alternator  and rec  /reg 
> mag drive 
> 
> i am replacing hapi parts 
>  e mail me pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk
> 
> phil brookman
> 
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KR> great plains flywheel and alternator kit

[phil brookman]

on a bit of a budget here -anyone got a 
great planes flywheel
  and alternator  and rec  /reg 
mag drive 

i am replacing hapi parts 
 e mail me pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk

phil brookman

KR> Great Plains

[Eric Evezard]

Thanks Al for letting me know Steve Bennet of Great Plains sells instruments as 
well.Best news I have heard for a long time.Ordering,Payment and timeous 
delivery is excellent even to this side of the world. and hassle free.!!!
Willie if you are going to use a Tiny Tach from a two stroke two cylinder 
Rotax,just convert in your head.A two stroke will spark once every rev,a four 
stroke will spark every two revs .In both cases the pickup is only off one plug 
lead.I would not try to cut the sealed unit open and convert the innards to 
four stroke if even possible..Just multiply the reading by two ?--- oops I 
think thats right.
Best Regards,
Eric,
S.Africa

KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[mtmcgo...@aol.com]

 If you have been following the thread about the wrong resistors in the kit,  
there were also two capacitors that did not correspond with the parts list.  
Well, after assembling it with the parts provided as best as I could, IT 
DOESN'T  WORK.  Although I'm not an electrical nut, I did wiring and soldered  
connectors for the Apollo Moon ships, I think I can properly put something as  
simple as this together. Oh well, I'll buy Whelen or similar.

Mike McGowan
 N4288C

KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[Jeff York]

Mike,if you get to frustrated I would be glad to lend a hand. It.s about time I 
can give back a little to this group. 

I am an old school electrcal engineer  complete with ocillascope and huntron 
tracker. 

Jeff york
Kr 2
N839BH
Lex/georgetown KY
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To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: 1/18/07 10:14 PM
Subject: KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

 If you have been following the thread about the wrong resistors in the kit,  
there were also two capacitors that did not correspond with the parts list.  
Well, after assembling it with the parts provided as best as I could, IT 
DOESN'T  WORK.  Although I'm not an electrical nut, I did wiring and soldered  
connectors for the Apollo Moon ships, I think I can properly put something as  
simple as this together. Oh well, I'll buy Whelen or similar.

Mike McGowan
 N4288C
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[mtmcgo...@aol.com]

 Jeff--Email me and I'll give you my address. I'll send the strobe to 
you  and you can play with it. 

  Mike McGowan
_mtmcgowan@aol.com_ (mailto:mtmcgo...@aol.com) 
 N4288C

KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[Jeff York]

Do you have the schematic for it ?

My address is 1064 Ramblewood Way Lexington KY. 40509.

You might want to take a magnifying glass and look at your solder joints real 
good. Do a revearse bias check on any diodes, and transistors. Check voltage on 
zener diodes. Just some thoughts. If none of that helps, I would be glad to fix 
it for you. No charge of course.

jeff

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Sent: 1/18/07 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

 Jeff--Email me and I'll give you my address. I'll send the strobe to 
you  and you can play with it. 

  Mike McGowan
_mtmcgowan@aol.com_ (mailto:mtmcgo...@aol.com) 
 N4288C
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[mtmcgo...@aol.com]

 Jeff---It comes with a schematic and a pictorial layout. I will 
check  the solder joints again, and if it still does not work, I will send it 
to  
you. 

Mike McGowan
 N4288C

KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Mike,

I hope you take no offence to my suggestions or comments. I mean to
judgment.

I find that many times when I get stuck on something that I simply need to
step away for a little bit or get another set of eyes on it. I then commonly
find some minor thing I over looked.

In case like this I may find a solder joint that is cold or a solder pad
that has lifted from the circuit board or even a zener diode that I
inadvertently installed backwards.

Let me know what you find.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit


> Jeff---It comes with a schematic and a pictorial layout. I will
> check  the solder joints again, and if it still does not work, I will send
it to
> you.
>
> Mike McGowan
>  N4288C
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[mtmcgo...@aol.com]

 Thanks Jeff, I'm looking into it. 

Mike Mcgowan
  N4288C

KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[robert7...@aol.com]

I saw some discussion on the Great Plains strobes this past week. I'm on  the 
digest and don't catch up on my reading very quickly. So sorry if this is  
late. 
I purchased two Great Plains Strobe kits and didn?t have any trouble  getting 
them to work.  I?ve added a  new page to my web site at _www.robert7721.com_ 
(http://www.robert7721.com/)  to show how I did it.  I assembled both kits 
then installed  them into a Radio Shack ?Project Box?.  The only thing I 
remember doing different was regarding the Blue Trigger  Coil (T3).  I did not 
like 
the  flimsy wire on it, so when I mounted it to the bread board I mounted it in 
a bed  of epoxy to make sure it was secure.  Both kits worked on the 1st try, 
so I guess I didn?t have to  do anything that unusual.  My  strobes are still 
not mounted in the airplane just yet. I am currently working  on the landing 
light installation. 
Rob Schmitt 
_robert7721@aol.com_ (mailto:robert7...@aol.com)  
KR2S 
N1852Z 
Kansas City, MO

KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!

[Marc Lee Winnig]

Just stumbled on this one...  If you are in the market for an engine or engine 
kit... check this out! http://www.greatplainsas.com/beetle2006web.pdf   
Marc Lee Winnig   

mlwin...@hotmail.com   

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KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!

[Dan Heath]

That is a great price on the Nikasil cylinders, but be aware that you need
to also change out your head studs and the new ones for the Nikasil are
expensive.  

I also understand that you are better off with the 94mm cylinders as the
92mm are much too thin at the top, for the amount of heat that they have to
deal with.

If you want to see what the real  Nickies™ like, and what they cost, check
out:

http://www.lnengineering.com/index.html

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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Just stumbled on this one...  If you are in the market for an engine or
engine kit... check this out! http://www.greatplainsas.com/beetle2006web
pdf   Marc Lee Winnig

KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!

[Marc Lee Winnig]

Thanks.  I was not really looking at the Nickies.  Seemed there were some other 
useful deals there.  But then I really need to call them, as there are several 
things I need/want to change on my HAPI, and a couple they think I may need to 
do (crank I think comes to mind).  Not sure where to start and stop, but a call 
is a good place to start!Marc Lee Winnig  

mlwin...@hotmail.com

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(801) 749-9460  FAX> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:26:18 -0500> From: 
da...@alltel.net> To: kr...@mylist.net> Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Sale!  
Limited Time!!!> > That is a great price on the Nikasil cylinders, but be aware 
that you need> to also change out your head studs and the new ones for the 
Nikasil are> expensive.  > > I also understand that you are better off with the 
94mm cylinders as the> 92mm are much too thin at the top, for the amount of 
heat that they have to> deal with.> > If you want to see what the real  
Nickies? like, and what they cost, check> out:> > 
http://www.lnengineering.com/index.html> > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - 
Then click on the pics > See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering> There is a time 
for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying> has begun.> Daniel 
R. Heath - Lexington, SC> ---Original Message--->  >  > Just stumbled 
on this one...  If you are in the market for an engine or> engine kit... check 
this out! http://www.greatplainsas.com/beetle2006web> pdf   Marc Lee 
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[jeffyor...@qx.net]

This is very interesting information for us VW guys. If you can trust this
information to be acturate, this is a major technology breakthrough.
Although it seems that the technology is not that new, it may be just now be
being applied to the aircraft world.

I have always wondered about the roughness of the castings of the VW jugs
and thought the billet stuff would be better but this information far
exceeds what I would have expected. It looks like these jugs answer all of
the needs, more power, better heat disapation longer TBO and so on.

Does anyone out there have experience and real world data on this?

And then it makes me wonder. Could a guy build a better VW using a scat
block, the right cam grind and crank combined with these jugs and get a
better, stonger VW in tyoe 1 or type 2 form?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!


That is a great price on the Nikasil cylinders, but be aware that you need
to also change out your head studs and the new ones for the Nikasil are
expensive.

I also understand that you are better off with the 94mm cylinders as the
92mm are much too thin at the top, for the amount of heat that they have to
deal with.

If you want to see what the real  NickiesT like, and what they cost, check
out:

http://www.lnengineering.com/index.html

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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Just stumbled on this one...  If you are in the market for an engine or
engine kit... check this out! http://www.greatplainsas.com/beetle2006web
pdf   Marc Lee Winnig

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KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!

[Dan Heath]

Revmaster is doing something like that with their R3000.  I saw a block just
like that one, being used to build up an engine for a race car.  Go to the
racing world and you will find all sorts of stuff that we can use, we just
have to tone it down a little for reliability. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
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has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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And then it makes me wonder. Could a guy build a better VW using a scat
block, the right cam grind and crank combined with these jugs and get a
better, stonger VW in type 1 or type 2 form?

KR> Great Plains Brakes & Azusa Wheels

[D F Lively]

Dennis:

I am in the process of installing GP Brakes on my plane.  It is necessary to
file out the Draft angle in the caliper holders to accept the calipers, that and
centering up the axles is the tough part.  I also had to take the adapters that
attach the rotor to the %" Azusa wheels to a machine shop to shave a few
thousandths off the diameter so it would fully seat properly on to the wheel.
You may or may not have to do this as it cis so small that it could be a
tolerance problem because all og these parts are cast Aluminum.

Don Livel



John Martindale wrote:

> Great Planes Aircraft hydraulic discs. Good value and work well. Check their
> website
>
> John Martindale
> 29 Jane Circuit
> Toormina NSW 2452
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Dyer" 
> To: 
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> Subject: KR> Brake suggestions?
>
> >
> >
> > I'm looking of suggestions for a brake replacement.  There are presently
> > "go cart" type brakes on my KR.  They just rub on one side of the rotor.
> > I'd like to replace them with something more reliable and firm.  Thanks
> > for any ideas.
> >
> > Dennis Dyer
> > Pine, CO
> >
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KR> Great Plains Brakes

[Martindale Family]

Folks

I disassembled my Great Plains master cylinders today. There are no relief 
ports or valves anywhere and no resevoirs. It is a simple plunger/o-ring with 
an internal spring to return it to its fully out position. If completely filled 
and bled, there is no room for heat expansion thus the slave must move out and 
lock on the disk. Cylinder orientation becomes irrelevant. 

So, either one must find a fluid that doesn't expand at all under heat, or the 
system must be under filled so that the master plunger can still move out if 
needed. I'm suggesting about 1/8" should be enough play.Full plunger movement 
is about 5/8" but is limited by the smaller distance that the pad moves.

Problem is that the space will inevitably fill with air leading to diminished 
brake effectiveness. Can't see any other solution short of a redesign however, 
any other ideas?

John

Martindale Family
29 Jane Circuit
TOORMINA NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

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KR> Great Plains Brakes

[Martindale Family]

Folks

I have an intermittent problem with my Great Plains brakes. These have separate 
hydraulic master cylinders and disc pads for each side. After they have been 
standing for a while they tend to lock up to the point where I cannot push the 
aircraft around. This due to the pad somehow taking up slack in the system and 
is maybe related to hot temperatures through the Australian summer days and 
cooling at night. I can release the pressure by admitting air through the 
bleeder nipple or alternatively forcing the pad plunger back but this doesn't 
seem to be the correct thing to do. Does anyone know of a solution to this or 
suffer from it? Is it a known problem?  Can anyone describe how the mster 
cylinder works internally to adjust for fluid expansion and temperature. If 
there are no simple solutions from you guys I'll email Steve Bennett. I'm 
worried if they decide to apply themselves in flight that I'll be fishtailing 
or nose overing more than I usually do on landing.

John

Martindale Family
29 Jane Circuit
TOORMINA NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

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KR> Great Plains Brakes

[Larry Flesner]

>  I'm worried if they decide to apply themselves in flight that I'll 
> be fishtailing or nose overing more than I usually do on landing.
>John Martindale
+

John,

Flying a taildragger, I understand the fishtailing but do you usually 
do a lot of "nose overing"
on landings? :-)

I'm not familiar with the Great Plains breaks but if you've ruled out 
any binding of
the brake assembly at the wheels,  check to insure your pedal / master cylinder
is fully de-actuating when you are not applying brakes.  Sometimes the geometry
of the pedal / master cylinder hookup can create problems.  Check the pedal
travel through their full range and insure there is no brake application at
the master cylinder.

My brakes / pedals are a single unit so I don't have any geometry problems but
I found I was dragging a bit of brake sometimes because of the angle my
long legs approach the pedals.  I glued a piece of 1/2" half round wood trim to
the top of each pedal to space my feet back from the brake pedal and that
solved the problem.

Good luck

Larry Flesner

KR> Great Plains Brakes

[Larry Flesner]

At 03:07 AM 1/29/2006, you wrote:
>Folks
>
>I have an intermittent problem with my Great Plains brakes.
>John


Also insure you are using the correct type of fluid for the system and that the
master cylinders are not "over filled" if that is possible.

Larry Flesner