KR> Re: Aborted Takeoff Follow Up.

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
N886MJ made a flight yesterday after it's aborted takeoff the day before. What 
I did prior to the flight was to adjust my Ellison carb which was way out of 
whack. I had previously set up the carb for cold weather flying and she would 
not idle in warmer weather so I made some adjustments. I achieved a very smooth 
idle at 900 rpm and also regained my static rpm of 2750. As I taxied out 
yesterday, everything was green to go. Static rpm hit 2750. She cycled through 
all rpm ranges very smooth. Everything felt good so I called the tower and was 
cleared for takeoff on runway 28. This was about 6:30 last night and there was 
no one else moving on the field. As I slowly firewalled her she quickly began 
picking up speed. As I reached rotation I was at 3000 rpm and she lifted off 
like she really wanted to fly. Everything felt great and I was headed straight 
out due west over the interstate. As I passed through 800 feet, I took note 
that the oil temp was at 190° and oil pressure was at 28 psi. Then I started 
noticing an rpm drop. I checked the throttle to make sure it was not backing 
out and checked the mixture. At the same time, I called the tower and informed 
them that I was turning crosswind and would like to stay in the pattern and I 
was cleared to do so. As I was turning crosswind, the rpm dropped to 2500 and 
began running rough. I called the tower and informed them I was losing power 
and would like to turn in to runway 10 for a 180° straight back to the runway. 
That is when the tower asked if I was going to need assistance. It's nice to be 
in good with the tower as they know me and did not ask if I was declaring an 
emergency. Anyway I told the tower that I would be able to make the runway 
since I still had enough power to maintain flight (but I really did not know 
how long that was going to last). When I had the runway made, I throttled back 
and set her down on runway 10 and the tower asked if I would need tow 
assistance. Luckily, she was running fine at 1500 rpm and I taxied in under my 
own power. Once again, I beat the odds. I pulled the cowl off and the engine 
was so hot, I could have fried eggs on top of it. As a matter of fact, I was 
cleaning the prop off and the overspray from the cleaner sizzled when it hit 
the engine. Today, I went to the hangar and took a look. I did a cold 
compression test and got the following:
1 = 80/78
3 = 80/60
5 = 80/54
2 = 80/46
4 = 80/74
6 = 80/62
Not good in my opinion. All the air was escaping into the engine case and none 
through the intake or exhaust. This told me that either I had cracked rings or 
cracked pistons. So I began disassembling the engine. I have removed both heads 
and have pulled all jugs and removed all rods and pistons from the crank. That 
is about as far as I have gotten as I had to stop to go to Daddy's Night at my 
daughters school. I will say that the rings were not cracked. I have not 
removed the rings from the pistons yet to inspect the piston. The rod bearings 
looked like new so there is no problem there. I will continue with the 
disassembly and do a complete inspection and rebuild. I will beat this devil 
riding on my shoulder!!! 

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com


KR> Re: Aborted Takeoff Follow Up.

2008-10-12 Thread Benjamin Smith
Do you know why it overheated? Was it running lean? Do you have EGT guages? 

-Ben 


On Wednesday 25 April 2007, Mark Jones wrote:
> N886MJ made a flight yesterday after it's aborted takeoff the day before. 
What I did prior to the flight was to adjust my Ellison carb which was way 
out of whack. I had previously set up the carb for cold weather flying and 
she would not idle in warmer weather so I made some adjustments. I achieved a 
very smooth idle at 900 rpm and also regained my static rpm of 2750. As I 
taxied out yesterday, everything was green to go. Static rpm hit 2750. She 
cycled through all rpm ranges very smooth. Everything felt good so I called 
the tower and was cleared for takeoff on runway 28. This was about 6:30 last 
night and there was no one else moving on the field. As I slowly firewalled 
her she quickly began picking up speed. As I reached rotation I was at 3000 
rpm and she lifted off like she really wanted to fly. Everything felt great 
and I was headed straight out due west over the interstate. As I passed 
through 800 feet, I took note that the oil temp was at 190° and oil pressure 
was at 28 psi. Then I started noticing an rpm drop. I checked the throttle to 
make sure it was not backing out and checked the mixture. At the same time, I 
called the tower and informed them that I was turning crosswind and would 
like to stay in the pattern and I was cleared to do so. As I was turning 
crosswind, the rpm dropped to 2500 and began running rough. I called the 
tower and informed them I was losing power and would like to turn in to 
runway 10 for a 180° straight back to the runway. That is when the tower 
asked if I was going to need assistance. It's nice to be in good with the 
tower as they know me and did not ask if I was declaring an emergency. Anyway 
I told the tower that I would be able to make the runway since I still had 
enough power to maintain flight (but I really did not know how long that was 
going to last). When I had the runway made, I throttled back and set her down 
on runway 10 and the tower asked if I would need tow assistance. Luckily, she 
was running fine at 1500 rpm and I taxied in under my own power. Once again, 
I beat the odds. I pulled the cowl off and the engine was so hot, I could 
have fried eggs on top of it. As a matter of fact, I was cleaning the prop 
off and the overspray from the cleaner sizzled when it hit the engine. Today, 
I went to the hangar and took a look. I did a cold compression test and got 
the following:
> 1 = 80/78
> 3 = 80/60
> 5 = 80/54
> 2 = 80/46
> 4 = 80/74
> 6 = 80/62
> Not good in my opinion. All the air was escaping into the engine case and 
none through the intake or exhaust. This told me that either I had cracked 
rings or cracked pistons. So I began disassembling the engine. I have removed 
both heads and have pulled all jugs and removed all rods and pistons from the 
crank. That is about as far as I have gotten as I had to stop to go to 
Daddy's Night at my daughters school. I will say that the rings were not 
cracked. I have not removed the rings from the pistons yet to inspect the 
piston. The rod bearings looked like new so there is no problem there. I will 
continue with the disassembly and do a complete inspection and rebuild. I 
will beat this devil riding on my shoulder!!! 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI 
> Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
> E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> Re: Aborted Takeoff Follow Up.

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Wegmet
Blown head gaskets? Bent intake/exhaust valves? Warped heads due to improper
torque sequence? How do you know the case is where the "air" is going?

Best of luck with the Root Cause Analysis (just an engineering thing, don't
sweat it)

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Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:24 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Re: Aborted Takeoff Follow Up.

N886MJ made a flight yesterday after it's aborted takeoff the day before.
What I did prior to the flight was to adjust my Ellison carb which was way
out of whack. I had previously set up the carb for cold weather flying and
she would not idle in warmer weather so I made some adjustments. I achieved
a very smooth idle at 900 rpm and also regained my static rpm of 2750. As I
taxied out yesterday, everything was green to go. Static rpm hit 2750. She
cycled through all rpm ranges very smooth. Everything felt good so I called
the tower and was cleared for takeoff on runway 28. This was about 6:30 last
night and there was no one else moving on the field. As I slowly firewalled
her she quickly began picking up speed. As I reached rotation I was at 3000
rpm and she lifted off like she really wanted to fly. Everything felt great
and I was headed straight out due west over the interstate. As I passed
through 800 feet, I took note that the oil temp was at 190° and oil pressure
was at 28 psi. Then I started noticing an rpm drop. I checked the throttle
to make sure it was not backing out and checked the mixture. At the same
time, I called the tower and informed them that I was turning crosswind and
would like to stay in the pattern and I was cleared to do so. As I was
turning crosswind, the rpm dropped to 2500 and began running rough. I called
the tower and informed them I was losing power and would like to turn in to
runway 10 for a 180° straight back to the runway. That is when the tower
asked if I was going to need assistance. It's nice to be in good with the
tower as they know me and did not ask if I was declaring an emergency.
Anyway I told the tower that I would be able to make the runway since I
still had enough power to maintain flight (but I really did not know how
long that was going to last). When I had the runway made, I throttled back
and set her down on runway 10 and the tower asked if I would need tow
assistance. Luckily, she was running fine at 1500 rpm and I taxied in under
my own power. Once again, I beat the odds. I pulled the cowl off and the
engine was so hot, I could have fried eggs on top of it. As a matter of
fact, I was cleaning the prop off and the overspray from the cleaner sizzled
when it hit the engine. Today, I went to the hangar and took a look. I did a
cold compression test and got the following:
1 = 80/78
3 = 80/60
5 = 80/54
2 = 80/46
4 = 80/74
6 = 80/62
Not good in my opinion. All the air was escaping into the engine case and
none through the intake or exhaust. This told me that either I had cracked
rings or cracked pistons. So I began disassembling the engine. I have
removed both heads and have pulled all jugs and removed all rods and pistons
from the crank. That is about as far as I have gotten as I had to stop to go
to Daddy's Night at my daughters school. I will say that the rings were not
cracked. I have not removed the rings from the pistons yet to inspect the
piston. The rod bearings looked like new so there is no problem there. I
will continue with the disassembly and do a complete inspection and rebuild.
I will beat this devil riding on my shoulder!!! 

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
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