KR> EAA recognizes the KR Gathering
See below, which also has a link to KRnet's website! http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/eaa-news-and-aviation-news/news/09-22-2016-successful-kr-gathering-in-mount-vernon-il?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTW1FNVpXWXhPR1JqWTJWbCIsInQiOiJaQ2ZzOHNOYmVuTnVBOVhaTSs3V040QkMzVmRmOGRuSHB5bUxmVE16TmdtQ2dodjR2UmVkSkozVHp2MExiZXdSMXNBSWYzaG5xZlY1cGxRVlh2TmREb3h5blQ0VUZ4TTEzR3BYK0M0b2NYWT0ifQ%3D%3D -- Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> KR Gathering History
Thank you BrantI have copied and pasted alot of them into my text to speech app and listen to them going down the road.? CopiedPaul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4 Original message From: Brant Hollensbe via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 09/21/2016 7:42 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: bhollensbe at mchsi.com Subject: KR> KR Gathering History I was reading the KR newsletter #73 and discovered the first KR Gathering was on 13&14 June 1981 at Santa Rosa, CA.? It was called the National KR Fly-in, due to liability issues the name was changed to National KR Get to Gather in 1987.? Issue #70 has a cool flyer advertising the event.? There is a so much in these KR Newsletters! This year was the 35th anniversary of the KR Gathering. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> KR Gathering History
I was reading the KR newsletter #73 and discovered the first KR Gathering was on 13&14 June 1981 at Santa Rosa, CA. It was called the National KR Fly-in, due to liability issues the name was changed to National KR Get to Gather in 1987. Issue #70 has a cool flyer advertising the event. There is a so much in these KR Newsletters! This year was the 35th anniversary of the KR Gathering.
KR> Gathering finances
Nettlers and Gathering attendees, I was concerned that with the bad weather and lower turnout this year we'd be a bit short on the finances. Good news! With the help of two generous donations, one corporate and one anonymous , and the generosity of the banquet attendees, it was a break even year. Starting balance was $4330 and ending balance is $4375. I haven't double checked any of my entries or math but I'm confident it is close. I'll send a complete report to John for posting in the next few days to show all income and expense. Thanks to all that helped make this year a financial success. Larry Flesner
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At 06:53 PM 9/19/2016, you wrote: > And, let's not forget John Bouyea. +++ My apologies to John. He did more work behind the scenes than appeared on the net. I'm sorry he couldn't make the Gathering. THANKS JOHN. Larry Flesner
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Thanks to all that helped to make the Gathering a success, especially Paul Visk in all the pre-planning leading up to the event. See you all at Lee's Summit. Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering 2016'
Made it home but my plane had to stay in Marked Tree, Ark. Made the stop due to low ceilings south of Memphis. Small directional incident on landing took me through a small dig between the runway and taxiway. Only damage was to the propeller. Will need a new one of those. The crop dusting business "Marked Tree Flying Service" owner Jerry Teague put my plane in his hangar and gave me a car to get home. Told me he had all the tools I would need. AND gave me a clock to make an ornament out my broken prop. WOW! AVIATION PEOPLE ARE THE BEST!!! Brad Stone Sent from my iPhone
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Oh, and I forgot Joe Horton won "Longest Distance", for flying 733 (statute) miles to the Gathering. He had to leave early due to inclement weather moving in, which would have prevent him from getting back home any earlier than Monday, if then. It was great to see Joe again, as well as everybody else in the KR family... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
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Joe Horton wrote: >> How about a report of events and banquet since I had to get outta there early Friday...<< Awards were: Best Paint - Joe Weber Best Firewall Forward - Brad Stone Best Panel and Interior - Mark Langford Best KR - Mark Langford People's Choice - Joe Weber I took 700 pictures (which is how I "remembered" the awards), and will get a web page done sometime in the next week, with captions to detail what went on. I think it was a great time for all. Rob Schmitt flew at least three guys, if not more, one of which was working toward a first flight soon. It was another great Gathering, despite the low turnout due to weather. Charlie Becker gave a very detailed and informative presentation on the certification paperwork to get an Experimental airplane signed off, as well as the Repairman's Certificate. Scott Wick gave an interesting "History of Wicks Aircraft" presentation. One of the things he mentioned was that the US gov't forbid them from making organs in order to conserve wood, so they temporarily went into the aircraft business building wings for some aircraft, as well other war support equipment. There was also a presentation by Stewart Systems paint. I missed that one, given my lack of concern about painting matters. Thanks to Joe Horton and Mark Jones for leaving early, as well as Robert Pesak and Mike Sylvester for not bringing their planes. Otherwise, I surely wouldn't have won Best KR! Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
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Where is LXT ? Virg On 9/18/2016 2:24 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet wrote: > Joe, > > I can confirm I was the lucky looser. Next years KR Gathering will be at LXT > the weekend of 23 Sep, 2017. > > I'll try and do a good job. I've already had several folks who have > volunteered to help out. So plug it into you calendar and your autopilot! > > I've got your altimeter so send me your address off-line and I'll send you a > check. > > I'll let Larry post the results of the awards. Don't want to make a mistake > on who won what. > > Thanks, > > Rob Schmitt
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Hey Guys, I'm guessing from the post below that Rob was the loosing bidder and will be hosting the gathering next year. How about a report of events and banquet since I had to get outta there early Friday and it makes me home sick not knowing what all went on and missing everyone. If it is at KLXT I have my flight plan already and only have to plug in the date. It will be about 1012 miles for me. I guess I won't make that on one tank of fuel. Joe Horton, N357CJ Paul it was our pleasure, and educational. Thanks for your help from our talks prior to the gathering and all through it. Can't wait for both of us to fly to Lee Summit next year. ___
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Joe, I can confirm I was the lucky looser. Next years KR Gathering will be at LXT the weekend of 23 Sep, 2017. I'll try and do a good job. I've already had several folks who have volunteered to help out. So plug it into you calendar and your autopilot! I've got your altimeter so send me your address off-line and I'll send you a check. I'll let Larry post the results of the awards. Don't want to make a mistake on who won what. Thanks, Rob Schmitt > On Sep 18, 2016, at 12:46 PM, n357cj via KRnet > wrote: > > Hey Guys, > I'm guessing from the post below that Rob was the loosing bidder and will be > hosting the gathering next year. How about a report of events and banquet > since I had to get outta there early Friday and it makes me home sick not > knowing what all went on and missing everyone. > If it is at KLXT I have my flight plan already and only have to plug in the > date. It will be about 1012 miles for me. I guess I won't make that on one > tank of fuel. > Joe Horton, N357CJ > > > > > Paul it was our pleasure, and educational. Thanks for your help from our > talks prior to the gathering and all through it. Can't wait for both of us > to fly to Lee Summit next year. > ___ > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> KR Gathering
done, thx Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ken Hurley via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 9/16/16 11:54 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: Ken Hurley Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Yes, also dinner banquet at 7:00, $15. Let Larry know if you want to eat. On Sep 16, 2016 11:51 AM, "Chris Prata via KRnet" wrote: > will there still be krs there tomorrow? i am 4 hours away, planning to > come saturday. > > there is rain in the area > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> KR Gathering
will there still be krs there tomorrow? i am 4 hours away, planning to come saturday. there is rain in the area Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
KR> KR Gathering
Yes, also dinner banquet at 7:00, $15. Let Larry know if you want to eat. On Sep 16, 2016 11:51 AM, "Chris Prata via KRnet" wrote: > will there still be krs there tomorrow? i am 4 hours away, planning to > come saturday. > > there is rain in the area > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >
KR> Gathering 2016
After literally years of prep and anticipation, I will be unable to attend or fly my KR-2 to the Gathering for 2016. My KR-2 waits patiently while I get myself ready to fly. Just had the left eye cataract surgery yesterday. Right eye had its turn three weeks ago and healing nicely. Amazing how we can take this marvelous gift of sight for granted - until it threatens to leave. Next year, whether Illinois or Kansas, I will be there. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA
KR> Gathering Reminder
Remember, tomorrow at the end of business day you will need to have your orders into Wick's so they can bring them out to the Gathering and not be charged for shipping. Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
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Mike wrote: ?I'm having trouble getting the hang of this tail dragger stuff. ? That's a good call Mike. ?With all the work you put into it don't want to risk it.What airplanes did ?you get your tailwheel endorsement in? Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
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OK Guys, I am so looking forward to this weekend but sadly I will be driving up Thursday instead of flying. I'll go ahead and admit that I'm having trouble getting the hang of this tail dragger stuff, There seems to be a disconnect somewhere between my head and my feet. After all the time I've put in building her, I just can't chance turning her into a pile of toothpicks. See you guys about lunch time Thursday. Mike Sylvester kr2s builder Birmingham,AL. Cell no.205-966-3854
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Sorry for sending the repeated blank emails. My email client defaults to HTML mode, and I don't always catch it to switch back to text mode operator error. ? After making it 3 years ago to Mt Vernon, 2 years ago to Chino, and last year to McMinnville, I'm going to miss the gathering this year.? Had hand surgery last week, so the pilot is grounded with a broken wing.? :o(? Looking forward to next year, probably in KC.? But you all have fun this weekend, tip a root beer for me, and post photos of the new flying machines I haven't had the privilege to see yet. ? -Jeff Scott
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KR> Gathering
I got an email from a new member from the Michigan City, the Michigan/Indiana border (KMGC). He can't make the Gathering, but requests somebody in a KR drop in to visit him, as he plans to by a KR2 next week, and would like to sit in or fly in one. If interested, email me and I'll send his phone number. Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> Gathering update
I plan to make my first trip (truck load of Gathering stuff) to Mt.Vernon tomorrow (Wednesday) mid to late morning. I may stay in Mt.Vernon or make the 50 mile trip home for the night and return Thursday for the duration. If anyone needs to reach me call my cell 618 201 5958 Larry Flesner Carterville, Illinois
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You guys have fun,wish I was going to be there,next year with my new Bird
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You guys flying in be careful. Thursday is going to be a beautiful day. Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4 Original message From: n357cj via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 09/13/2016 11:41 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: n357cj Subject: KR> gathering 2... I say 2 more days... Yeeehaa... N357CJ
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2... I say 2 more days... Yeeehaa... N357CJ
KR> Gathering update
Speaking of "root beer", I will secure two cases of "root beer", one light and one dark, tomorrow to be used for refreshments at the camp site. I also secured a donation to cover most of the cost of the price kick for the steaks. I hated to tell Donny no as we are his favorite group and he wanted to go all out for us. Anyway, the cost is not an issue, just don't belly ace to me that your steak wasn't done EXACTLY the way you like it. Eat it, like it, and have a good time. :-) You will be asked when purchasing your banquet ticket if you request a steak or just the buffet to give Donny a count to toss on the grill. See you soon Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering shirts / hats
No problem, thanks anyway
KR> Gathering shirts / hats
> >Can I get a t-shirt even if I'm not going to the gathering?? + Only if you know someone attending the Gathering and we have an extra your size. I am not taking orders and mailing hats / shirts as in years past due to the time and effort involved. It was more of a favor than a money maker and after nine years of "doing favors" I've decided not to go that route this year. SORRY.. Larry Flesner co-host
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At 02:53 PM 9/9/2016, you wrote: > I just got off the phone with Donny from the restaurant at the > airport. He will add the drinks for the buffets for free. That is a > $2.00 savings. The only stipulation is that Larry has to bring his guitar. + Some may prefer to pay for their drinks. For the sake of my ego I'll not ask for a vote. :-) We'll see what happens... Larry Flesner
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I just got off the phone with Donny from the restaurant at the airport. He will add the drinks for the buffets for free. That is a $2.00 savings. The only stipulation is that Larry has to bring his guitar. So Larry I hope you don't forge. ?: )?Also for the people flying in. The 20 cent discount for fuel will be taken off at the time of purchase. Just mention you are there for the Gathering.? Last thing, Scott Wick from Wicks Aircraft will bring orders placed by Thursday Sep.15, 2016 to the Gathering with him on Friday. So if you want free shipping just mention it when you order.? Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
KR> Kitplane KR Gathering article
If I recall, there was a kitplane article on the 2014 Chino Gathering. ?I'm not able to find it. Can someone help me. Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
KR> Gathering Campers
-Original Message- >From: John Bouyea via KRnet >Sent: Aug 20, 2016 7:34 AM >To: KRnet >Cc: John Bouyea >Subject: KR> Gathering Campers > >I just found out the "I'm Camping" button on the Gathering registration form >wasn't working correctly. So if you ARE planning to camp at the Gathering, >please send a reply to kr2s at bouyea.net and let me know. I'll summarize the >count and pass it to Larry, our fearless Gathering host. Thanks guys! > >John Bouyea >N5391M/ KR2 >OR81/ Hillsboro, OR >2015 KR at MMV Gathering CoHost > > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >options John, I will be camping at the gathering. (Truck Camper) Looking forward to seeing you there. Russ Barnett
KR> Gathering reminder
Gathering attendees, I want to remind everyone that the cutoff to order hats and shirts was last Friday. The couple of "pre-registers" since that date and ordering shirts / hats are covered by the few extra I've ordered. I can't guarantee that for those that pre-register after receiving this e-mail. Shirts are $25 and hats are $15 For John B.: Please leave a blank line on the attendee list between those that have pre-registered and those that register after this date. That will indicate to me those that are guaranteed a hat / shirt and those that are eligible to purchase an extra at the Gathering if available. I'll try to treat everyone fairly. Thanks.. Larry Flesner flesner at frontier.com
KR> KR Gathering 2017
At 12:24 PM 8/22/2016, you wrote: >KR Enthusiasts; > >I am planning to make a pitch at the 2016 KR Gathering to host the 2017 >event at Lee's Summit Airport in Missouri. +++ Thanks , Rob. Any competition has a tough act to follow. Larry Flesner flesner at frontier.com
KR> KR Gathering 2017
KR Enthusiasts; I am planning to make a pitch at the 2016 KR Gathering to host the 2017 event at Lee's Summit Airport in Missouri. I understand a vote will be required and the location needs to be approved. I also wanted to ensure the KR Net folks have an opportunity to review this as well regardless of if they can attend this year's Gathering. I have put together a Power Point Presentation which can be downloaded with the following Link (includes photos); http://www.robert7721.com/files/KRGathering2017.pdf Summary is as follows; Proposal for KR Gathering 2017 Lee's Summit Airport (LXT), Missouri Event Organizer - Rob Schmitt (KR2S - N1852Z) Dates: September 21-24, 2017 This event has been presented to both the Airport Manager (John Ohrazda), and the host EAA Chapter 91. Both organizations a very supportive and willing to host. EAA Chapter 91 will support with their facilities for main gathering space. Airport will support with equipment, contracts as required, potentially Open T hangers for aircraft if needed, and a fuel discount. Airport Description Two Runways over 4,000 ft No control Tower In Mode C Veil of Kansas City but direct entry and exit does not require a Transponder. Airport Construction likely to be completed on Runway 18/36 to extend it to 6,000 ft in Aug 2017 EAA Chapter 91 Facilities Main Hanger with Chapter Presentation Room Overhead Projector Kitchen, Refrigerators Grilling equipment Tools and equipment for aircraft repair if need Restrooms, but no showers EAA Chapter 91 has conducted several major events in the past to include the EAA Tri-motor and B-17 tours. The Chapter conducts monthly Young Eagles events in conjunction with a Pancake Breakfast during the Summer months. Other Considerations Nearest RV Campground with hookups - Lake Jacomo approx. 3 Miles away Hotel - Hampton Inn already on board to support for Group Lodging Lee's Summit/Kansas City Area, Sports, Museums, Shopping, Entertainment, etc. Potential fly-outs to surrounding Airports and places of interest. Let me know if you have any questions. My direct email is robert7721 at aol.com Thanks, Rob Schmitt KR2S N1852Z www.robert7721.com Kansas City, MO
KR> Gathering Campers
I just found out the "I'm Camping" button on the Gathering registration form wasn't working correctly. So if you ARE planning to camp at the Gathering, please send a reply to kr2s at bouyea.net and let me know. I'll summarize the count and pass it to Larry, our fearless Gathering host. Thanks guys! John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 2015 KR at MMV Gathering CoHost
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With just weeks till the KR Gathering, I touched base today with Chris Collins, the airport manager, to confirm final arrangements. For those that have not attended a Gathering at Mt.Vernon I'll lay out some information points to keep in mind: - Restaurant on the field in the terminal building serving lunch and dinner buffet with breakfast items during the Gathering. Donnie Wilkie and staff will treat you like old friends. Give them your business when possible. They will also cater the Saturday evening awards banquet. The banquet will be held in the terminal commons area at 7:00PM Saturday evening. - KR fliers: We all enjoy fly-bys but limit your pass to no closer to the terminal than the taxiways. Keep in mind the AirEvac facility on the airport and respect any emergency operations such as picking up KR drivers out of local bean fields. No low passes over the campground or AirEvac facility, main runway only. - Chris is checking the possibility of us using a computer projector owned by a friend of the airport. - Camping: Great camp site by the lake within walking distance of the terminal and the hangar where bathroom and showers are available. At the last Gathering we actually had people camping in the hangar. The pavilion at the camp ground has been updated by an Eagle scout with new roof and other upgrades. For those camping, alcohol is not allowed on the airport but "party beverages" are tolerated if done so responsibility. Enough said? A few electrical hookups were available in the past for motor homes and large campers behind the FBO hangar. I forgot to check but they are probably still available, first come , first served. Wood for fire will be available at the pavilion. - Something to sell? bring it and we'll set up a table(s) to display your ware. Tables available in terminal commons for photo albums and other display items. Bring anything you'd like to share. - It's tough asking someone to set at the registration table all day to sell hats/shirts/ banquet tickets so I will be limiting the hours to 10:00AM till 3:00PM. I'll ask John to update the web page with that info. Name tags will be available so please use them so we can put names with faces. Please purchase your banquet tickets by Saturday noon so we have an accurate head count for Donnie. _ The location for the 2017 Gathering will be voted on at the Saturday evening banquet. We presently have one offer but anyone is allowed to make a proposal at the banquet. Want to host a Gathering? Suggestions are welcome but only serious proposals / presentations will be considered. - Forums will be held in the conference room in the terminal (seating for 60+) or in the terminal commons area, location to be announced at the Gathering. - Use caution on the ramp for aircraft movements and give them clear space. Remember, us tail dragger pilots have a hard time seeing you, stand well clear. - Very friendly FBO. Walk down and thank them for their support. - A portion of an 11,900 square foot hangar should be available for the KR's at no cost to fliers unless something unforeseen comes up. Chris will move heaven and earth to make it available. I know I'm forgetting something so I'll post it when I think of it. This is my 25th KR Gathering of the last 26. I missed the one in California after turning back in Northwest Arkansas. Joe Horton continued on from there to leave an oil trail all the way to the west coast. :-) Mark Langford was unable to even leave his home airport on that run. Questions? Flesner at frontier.com cell 618 201 5958 Life is goodSee you at the Gathering. Larry Flesner
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Just for info. Ionia, Mich. (Y70) has 27/9 paved and 36/18 turf with excellent parking. School of Mission Aviation Training on the field and glider flights available. Doran On Aug 19, 2016 7:59 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" wrote: > > > With just weeks till the KR Gathering, I touched base today with Chris > Collins, the airport manager, to confirm final arrangements. For those > that have not attended a Gathering at Mt.Vernon I'll lay out some > information points to keep in mind: > > - Restaurant on the field in the terminal building serving lunch and > dinner buffet with breakfast items during the Gathering. Donnie Wilkie and > staff will treat you like old friends. Give them your business when > possible. They will also cater the Saturday evening awards banquet. The > banquet will be held in the terminal commons area at 7:00PM Saturday > evening. > > - KR fliers: We all enjoy fly-bys but limit your pass to no closer to the > terminal than the taxiways. Keep in mind the AirEvac facility on the > airport and respect any emergency operations such as picking up KR drivers > out of local bean fields. No low passes over the campground or AirEvac > facility, main runway only. > > - Chris is checking the possibility of us using a computer projector owned > by a friend of the airport. > > - Camping: Great camp site by the lake within walking distance of the > terminal and the hangar where bathroom and showers are available. At the > last Gathering we actually had people camping in the hangar. The pavilion > at the camp ground has been updated by an Eagle scout with new roof and > other upgrades. For those camping, alcohol is not allowed on the airport > but "party beverages" are tolerated if done so responsibility. Enough > said? A few electrical hookups were available in the past for motor homes > and large campers behind the FBO hangar. I forgot to check but they are > probably still available, first come , first served. Wood for fire will > be available at the pavilion. > > - Something to sell? bring it and we'll set up a table(s) to display your > ware. Tables available in terminal commons for photo albums and other > display items. Bring anything you'd like to share. > > - It's tough asking someone to set at the registration table all day to > sell hats/shirts/ banquet tickets so I will be limiting the hours to > 10:00AM till 3:00PM. I'll ask John to update the web page with that info. > Name tags will be available so please use them so we can put names with > faces. Please purchase your banquet tickets by Saturday noon so we have an > accurate head count for Donnie. > > _ The location for the 2017 Gathering will be voted on at the Saturday > evening banquet. We presently have one offer but anyone is allowed to make > a proposal at the banquet. Want to host a Gathering? Suggestions are > welcome but only serious proposals / presentations will be considered. > > - Forums will be held in the conference room in the terminal (seating for > 60+) or in the terminal commons area, location to be announced at the > Gathering. > > - Use caution on the ramp for aircraft movements and give them clear > space. Remember, us tail dragger pilots have a hard time seeing you, > stand well clear. > > - Very friendly FBO. Walk down and thank them for their support. > > - A portion of an 11,900 square foot hangar should be available for the > KR's at no cost to fliers unless something unforeseen comes up. Chris will > move heaven and earth to make it available. > > I know I'm forgetting something so I'll post it when I think of it. This > is my 25th KR Gathering of the last 26. I missed the one in California > after turning back in Northwest Arkansas. Joe Horton continued on from > there to leave an oil trail all the way to the west coast. :-) Mark > Langford was unable to even leave his home airport on that run. > > Questions? Flesner at frontier.com cell 618 201 5958 > > Life is goodSee you at the Gathering. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> Gathering hats, shirts, registration
Gathering attendees, Tomorrow ( 8/20/2016) is the cutoff date to order hats and shirts. Place your order by going to www.krnet.org and click on the Gathering link at the very top of the page. Go to "pre-register" and fill in the blanks. I will be placing my final order tomorrow. The list is manually updated so give John a chance to update before posting that you registered and it didn't show up on the list. Thanks. Larry Flesner flesner at frontier.com
KR> Gathering update
Just one more month till the Gathering at Mt.Vernon. Anyone wanting a shirt or hat for this years Gathering will need to get the order in by the cutoff date of August 20, just 10 days from now. I was much more flexible in the past but my supplier (my next door neighbor) is easing in to retirement and my options are limited. Also, unlike past years, I will not be taking orders at the Gathering and mailing shirts / hats. I will have a few extra of common sizes at the Gathering but can't guarantee having a hat or shirt your size unless you pre-order. If you order a hat / shirt and are unable to attend the Gathering, I will sell your order at the Gathering. Sorry to get so persnickety in my old age but nine years of tracking / shipping/ etc. orders for hats and shirts outside the Gathering dates has proven not to be worth my time and effort. So, if you want a hat or shirt, order (pre-register at http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/ ) by August 20 or send me an e-mail ( flesner at frontier.com ) with shirt size by August 20. John, if possible, plan to have all registrations posted on the 20th and I will use that as a final count. Thanks... Larry Flesner flesner at frontier.com
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I just confirmed with SRT Aviation (FBO at that the airport) that we will be getting a 20 cent discount on 100LL. So if your still on the fence about flying your KR to the Gathering. ?Hope this help you.So far we have seven official sponsors and still growing. They are listed on the bottom of the Gathering Webpage.?http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/ ???When you get a chance go and check them out and support them as they supported us. Paul Visk?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
KR> Gathering update
I just finished a Web Site update to reflect the new trophys, hats and shirts on the KRAgenda/ Schedule page and Pro Shop pages. Click any photo for full scale, hi-res images. http://www.bouyea.net/krgathering/index.htm Also a big Welcome to Michael, Max, Roger & Kyle! See you in Mt. Vernon. John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 2015 KR at MMV Gathering CoHost Subject: KR> Gathering update ... photos of the Gathering trophies, shirt, and hat Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering update
I'm including links to some photos of the Gathering trophies, shirt, and hat. I'll have John post them to the web page when he returns from vacation. Any guesses on who takes home the trophies and how many? Larry Flesner trophies https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8962.JPG hats https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8964.JPG shirt https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8965.JPG
KR> Gathering update
Thanks to John Bouyea the Gathering web page has been updated with the Gathering schedule. In addition to the traditional engine and airframe forums, Paul Visk has arranged for several other presentations / forums that should be of interest to attendees. Check it out at: http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/ or go to www.krnet.org and find the Gathering link at the top of the page. See you there Larry Flesner
KR> 85 Days until the 2016 KR Gathering
http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html I updated the registration/ roster this evening, catching up for a serious delay in your messages. My apologies to David, Robert, Roger, Joe & Collin. Welcome aboard guys! I also updated the Fly-In Schedule page. As soon as Larry approves my edits I'll get that posted too. Thank you. John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 2015 KR at MMV Gathering CoHost
KR> Gathering update
i am hoping to join the gathering, but due to unpredictable schedules, cannot commit until its very close. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Larry Flesner via KRnet Date: 6/18/16 4:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: KRnet Cc: Larry Flesner Subject: KR> Gathering update I hope to have the 2016 Gathering? forum schedule posted in the next few days. There have been some changes and additions.?? I'll advise when it gets posted. If you haven't registered yet and hope to order a hat and shirt, please do so in the next few days.? I hope to place the first order in the next week or so and would like to include as many as possible in order to hold down shipping cost. Thanks Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Gathering update
I hope to have the 2016 Gathering forum schedule posted in the next few days. There have been some changes and additions. I'll advise when it gets posted. If you haven't registered yet and hope to order a hat and shirt, please do so in the next few days. I hope to place the first order in the next week or so and would like to include as many as possible in order to hold down shipping cost. Thanks Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering
John has posted a photo of this years shirts on the Gathering page under "pro shop". http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/ Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering hats/ shirts
> At this particular Fly In, the previous years "Grand Champion" (or > in our case "Best KR") gets digitized and is on the advertising, > T-shirts, baseball caps, and coffee mugs sold to the next year's > attendees as the face of the fly in. The coffee mugs are handed > out as part of the registration fee, so everyone that registers gets one. ++ That's an idea I'd not heard before and it sounds like a good one and probably financially feasible. It would sure make the hosts decisions easier. Would we use the "judged best KR" or the "peoples choice" KR? My KR did win the "judged-Best KR" in 2010 so maybe the "tradition" has just begun. Free coffee mugs to all registrants might be a bit pricey for our budget. A limited registration fee with a free mug and hat might work. We'll see what dust this blows up and how it settles. Larry Flesner
KR> KR Gathering: Sponsor update
I stopped by SRT Aviation at Mt. Vernon Airport and talked to the president of the FBO. ?Richard and I talked for a couple of hours. ?He was wearing a Airforce cap. ?It turnes out he worked on B-52's just as I did. ?We could have talked for hours. ?But my electronic log book in my truck was saying, ?Paul it's time to go or we won't get home.?For the planes that fly in for the gathering. ?He will be giving a substantial fuel discount. (to be announced)?Thank you Richard. ?John added SRW's and Drury ?Inn links to the sponsor section on the website. ? Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705? Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.
KR> Gathering web page
Some are still having trouble finding the Gathering page. Go to www.krnet.org and click on the link at the top of the page. Larry Flesner
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Search
I don't understand the problem. I entered "2016+KR+Gathering" search string in www.dogpile.com I got several pages of false hits, and this, about 6 entries down from the top of the page, "The 2016 KR GATHERING Coming this Fall! - Bouyea.Net www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/web_pages The 2016 KR GATHERING Coming this Fall! KRGathering 2016 - September 16 & 17, 2016 Mount Vernon, IL (KMVN) Only days until the 2016 KR GATHERING!" This is the actual web page, http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html The same search gave the same results with yahoo. google failed to find the web site, it found at least 8 old gathering web sites, including the one for 2015, but could not find the new site. I've seen the same thing with other searches. This is why I no longer use google. YMMV -- Wayne DeLisle Sr.
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Search
Paul - Yahoo found it, sort of. Apparently Yahoo is still good for something. I don't know whether the screenshot below will work with the text only requirement of the KRnet, but if not, try Yahoo. Google should pick it up when it starts appearing on various sites besides KRnet - though that should be enough for it to get there eventually. George --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
Has anyone considered starting a page on Wikipedia? I would think such a page would be a real asset to krnet. If anyone is interested, I will open a page and we can start building the data. Anyone? -- Wayne DeLisle Sr.
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
Here you go Paul. http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html I used dogpile search. I don't use google anymore. Wayne DeLisle Sr. > KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update > > Paul Visk ppaulvsk at aol.com > Sat Apr 23 13:54:39 EDT 2016 > Previous message (by thread): KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update > Next message (by thread): KR> New video on YouTube > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > John or anyone else. Do you know how to get "2016 KR Gathering" to show up > in a Google search? What comes up is the 2015 gathering home page. This would > make it alot easier for going after sponsors. > Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 --
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
Wayne, ?Dogpile doesn't bring it up ether.?I can always have perspective sponsors go to krnet. org ?then to the link. ?But it would be better for the gathering to show up in a search. ? Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618 406 4705? Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6. Original message From: Wayne via KRnet Date: 4/23/16 2:03 PM (GMT-06:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Cc: Wayne Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update Here you go Paul. http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html I used dogpile search. I don't use google anymore. Wayne DeLisle Sr. > KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update > > Paul Visk ppaulvsk at aol.com > Sat Apr 23 13:54:39 EDT 2016 > Previous message (by thread): KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update > Next message (by thread): KR> New video on YouTube > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > John or anyone else.? Do you know how to get "2016 KR Gathering" to show up > in a Google search? What comes up is the 2015 gathering home page. This would > make it alot easier for going after sponsors. > Paul Visk? Belleville Il?? 618 406 4705 -- ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
John or anyone else. ?Do you know how to get "2016 KR Gathering" to show up in a Google search??What comes up is the 2015 gathering home page.?This would make it alot easier for going after sponsors. ? Paul Visk ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Belleville Il ? ? ??618 406 4705? Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6. ---Ok Paul,*I updated the home page with our first sponsor, Wicks Aircraft. I sure would like to give promotional exposure to other businesses who are willing to support the 2016 KR Gathering!*
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Web Site Update
Ok Paul, *I updated the home page with our first sponsor, Wicks Aircraft. I sure would like to give promotional exposure to other businesses who are willing to support the 2016 KR Gathering! *The Attendees list is also now updated with 8 people signed up already. Builders/ flyers, if you haven't yet signed up <http://www.bouyea.net/KRGathering> , what are you waiting for? Cheers! John Bouyea N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR 2015 KR at MMV Gathering CoHost -Original Message- From: Paul-Visk via KRnet Subject: KR> 2016 KR Gathering Sponsors I'm starting to get sponsors for the Gathering. Do you know of a company that would like to contribute financially, with gift certificates or with promotional items ...
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Sponsors
I'm starting to get sponsors for the Gathering. Do you know of a company that would like to contribute financially, with gift certificates or with promotional items that will be given away in our drawings after the banquet? Let me know. In turn we will put there company logo with a link on our sponsor page. Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Sponsors
I'm starting to get sponsors for the Gathering. Do you know of a company that would like to contribute financially, with gift certificates or with promotional items that will be given away in our drawings after the banquet? Let me know. In turn we will put there company logo with a link on our sponsor page.
KR> Gathering sale items
That is one thing ?I remember about ?Mt.Vernon. ?Is all the tables of stuff for sale.?Make sure you bring your builders logs and your pictures of your projects. ? Paul Visk, ?Belleville Il?618 406 4705? Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6. Yes, anyone can bring anything they think other builders might be interested in.? I just can't guarantee a sale. :-) Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering update
Can I bring a project to sell. Randy Moore Newbern Tn 38059 731 589 1330 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Larry Flesner via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Larry Flesner Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2016 05:27 PM Subject: KR> Gathering update Gathering attendees, I'm starting to put things together for the 2016 Gathering. The Drury Inn and Suites will be the lodging for this year. It is located next to the interstate, opposite side from the Holiday Inn. Twenty rooms are blocked until September 1. Blocked are 10 rooms with a single King bed and 10 rooms with double Queen beds for those that wish to double up with a fellow attendee. The discounted rate for KR Gathering attendees is $94 a night, discounted from their normal rate of $135 a night. I was a bit shocked at the price increases since 2013 but it is what it is. There are a number of other motels in Mt.Vernon if you wish to find a lower rate. Just google motels , Mt.Vernon, Illinois. Camping on the field is encouraged. I had my first meeting with the hat and shirt lady (my Neighbor) this afternoon. We worked on logo so no decision yet on actual hats / shirts. I'm leaning toward light denim as we had 5 or 6 years ago (yes, with a pocket) and seemed rather popular. Hats will be $15 and shirts $25 with whatever is the final choice and I will lower the price if possible when final decisions are made. I'm asking John Bouyea, via this post, to open the registration page on the Gathering web site so you may begin to register provided you trust my judgement on the hat / shirt issue. If you want to see them first, please wait to register so that you can register and place your order all at the same time. That would save much confusion down the road. Anyone having ideas on forums, wanting to see a specific forum, or wishing to volunteer to lead a forum, communicate those request to Paul Visk ( mailto:ppaulvsk at aol.com">ppaulvsk at aol.com ). Any questions: mailto:flesner at frontier.com">flesner at frontier.com Updates to follow as things develope. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search; target="_blank">http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to mailto:KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org">KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html; target="_blank">http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org; target="_blank">http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Gathering sale items
At 09:29 PM 4/11/2016, you wrote: >Can I bring a project to sell. Randy Moore Newbern Tn 38059 731 589 1330 Yes, anyone can bring anything they think other builders might be interested in. I just can't guarantee a sale. :-) Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering update
Please hold up on registering on the Gathering web page. I caught John off guard and he has some changes and updates he needs to make before going live. My apologies to John. Larry Flesnre
KR> Gathering update
I forgot to give you the phone number for the Drury. 618 246 5201 and give them a few days to get the KR rates in the computer and the desk clerks up to speed. Larry Flesner
KR> Gathering update
Gathering attendees, I'm starting to put things together for the 2016 Gathering. The Drury Inn and Suites will be the lodging for this year. It is located next to the interstate, opposite side from the Holiday Inn. Twenty rooms are blocked until September 1. Blocked are 10 rooms with a single King bed and 10 rooms with double Queen beds for those that wish to double up with a fellow attendee. The discounted rate for KR Gathering attendees is $94 a night, discounted from their normal rate of $135 a night. I was a bit shocked at the price increases since 2013 but it is what it is. There are a number of other motels in Mt.Vernon if you wish to find a lower rate. Just google motels , Mt.Vernon, Illinois. Camping on the field is encouraged. I had my first meeting with the hat and shirt lady (my Neighbor) this afternoon. We worked on logo so no decision yet on actual hats / shirts. I'm leaning toward light denim as we had 5 or 6 years ago (yes, with a pocket) and seemed rather popular. Hats will be $15 and shirts $25 with whatever is the final choice and I will lower the price if possible when final decisions are made. I'm asking John Bouyea, via this post, to open the registration page on the Gathering web site so you may begin to register provided you trust my judgement on the hat / shirt issue. If you want to see them first, please wait to register so that you can register and place your order all at the same time. That would save much confusion down the road. Anyone having ideas on forums, wanting to see a specific forum, or wishing to volunteer to lead a forum, communicate those request to Paul Visk ( ppaulvsk at aol.com ). Any questions: flesner at frontier.com Updates to follow as things develope. Larry Flesner
KR> KR Gathering...
Greetings, I am guessing our KR will not be ready by September, but I am thinking of flying out for the gathering. I?ll have a few empty seats if anyone would like to join me. Friday-Sunday 16th-18th September. I?m based in Davis, CA (close to Sacramento) and its about a 8.5 hour flight. Cheers, Owen
KR> 2016 KR Gathering at Mt Vernon
Netters, John Bouyea has posted the basic Gathering page. Registration link is inop at this time, available when I get hat and shirt info together. Other info will be added as it becomes available. For convenience, Mark Langford has posted the link to the Gathering page as the second line on the www.krnet.org page. He has also added photos from last year to the Gathering site. I'll keep you posted with any updates. Thanks John and Mark. Larry Flesner
KR> 2016 KR Gathering at Mt Vernon
At 12:12 AM 2/28/2016, you wrote: >Netters > Has a date been determined for this year's Gathering? >Pete Klapp ++ ( I had a computer crash since first posting the date so I hope this is right. Committee members will correct me if I'm wrong) The Gathering date for the 2016 KR Gathering at Mt.Vernon is Sept. 16 & 17. John Bouyea is working up a web page as we text. Since I last hosted a Gathering, my neighbor that does the hats and shirts has been spending her winters in Florida so I haven't got that detail worked out yet. I hesitate starting a registration page without including that item as that is the reason I started that process back in 2004. Plan on the date and other info available soon. Paul Visk will be working on putting together a list of seminars so forward to him your wishes. Larry Flesner
KR> 2016 KR Gathering at Mt Vernon
Netters Has a date been determined for this year's Gathering? I have an obligation slated for mid- September that I can schedule around if I know when the Gathering will be. Has a website been set up for registration? Pete Klapp
KR> 2016 KR Gathering Forum's
I'm starting to collect ideas and suggestions for the forum's at the gathering this year. ?Anyone with an idea or would like to give one. Drop me a note off net or call me.? Paul Visk?Belleville Il?618-406-4705
KR> Gathering videos - Volunteer to turn VHS tapes into digital format?
Stan wrote: > I can convert VHS to DVD if you so desire. Please advise. Thanks, but I've taken Gary up on his offer to convert them. Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> Gathering videos - Volunteer to turn VHS tapes into digital format?
Virg Salisbury wrote: > What happened to the videos that did not get given away at a > gathering a while back ? Larry sent me those videos probably a year ago or maybe even two. Like a lot of things, I volunteered to do something that I haven't made the time to do, and to tell you the truth, I'd also have to resurrect a VCR and do some homework to copy these files from VCR tape to make them videos suitable for posting. So...does anybody out there have the capability and the time to copy these VHS videos to MPEG (or some other format that makes sense) so we can put them on KRnet for download? There are five tapes: Covington in 1988, Kentucky Dam in 1991, Covington in 1992, Covington in 1993, and 1997 in Perry. Any volunteers for this job? The only rule is that you have to do it somewhat promptly, like in the couple of months. You can't be a useless slug like me and impede progress! I believe these were all shot by Video Bob. I will try to reach him and get his permission for posting, although I suspect he'd be thrilled at the prospect of putting them on the web for all to see. I haven't heard from him in years, and I know his health was failing then. Thanks, Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
Well, maybe one. Congratulations Terry Chizek! -Original Message- Cc: Dan Heath Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? Having small local/regional meets will work great. All YOU have to do is to set it up and DO it. As Larry has described, hosting a "Gathering" is a lot of work. I once set up a small meet in Florida, and I had the only KR there. You want it, DO it. I keep reading about people wanting this, over many years, and yet, NO ONE has DONE it. There is nothing stopping you from doing this.
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
Having small local/regional meets will work great. All YOU have to do is to set it up and DO it. As Larry has described, hosting a "Gathering" is a lot of work. I once set up a small meet in Florida, and I had the only KR there. You want it, DO it. I keep reading about people wanting this, over many years, and yet, NO ONE has DONE it. There is nothing stopping you from doing this. See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR. September 3 - 6 -- See U There. Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- Are we a large enough group to have some regional meetings as well as the "Gathering"? Or, would this just detract from the "national" meet?
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
> , "Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet" wrote: > i bet the builders who show up will be bigger. > > > Randy Moore > Newbern Tn 38059 > > I am already bigger, I need to get SMALLER! Dave M Nashua NH
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
I will be there for my debut. On Sep 25, 2015 12:27 AM, "Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet" < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i bet the builders who show up will be bigger. Randy Moore Newbern Tn 38059 KR super single For sale Avid MK IV -Original Message- From: Mark Jones via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mark Jones Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that it is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
Dan Heath and I had an unofficial KR gathering at his hanger last weekend. ?It made me think how nice a local/regional gathering would be. ?Something I might have the chance to attend and meet some more of you good folks. Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
I concur with having the 2016 at MVN. I have started to work plans for possibly hosting one at Lees Summit MO (LXT) in 2017, but I would not be prepared for 2016. Our EAA chapter is on board, but I still need to work with the airport manager to make sure they support it. We have pretty good EAA chapter facilities - hangers, meeting room, kitchen facilities.. Camping on the airport may not be allowed which would detract from the event. I will be glad to help Larry run this one in 2016, it will prepare me for 2017. Understood that this all would require a vote at the end of the 2016 one, hopefully others are thinking of hosting one as well. Competition is a good thing. Rob Schmitt N1852Z Kansas City, MO -Original Message- From: Mark Langford via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 7:49 pm Subject: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? KRnetHeads, At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the community for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. It's worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody volunteered to host the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was prepared to volunteer Mt. Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until this Internet vote was decided upon instead. So to me, we could just say "the next Gathering will be at Mt. Vernon, period", and I suspect that would echo the sentiment of the majority. But if anybody wants to volunteer to host it, we can add it to the mix and put it to a vote (Survey Monkey comes to mind), or if nobody else comes forward by the end of the weekend, we'll call it MVN and move on. Keep in mind the responsibilities and expectations associated with hosting the Gathering are not trivial. See Larry's short list from several weeks ago, below: ___ Anyone considering hosting a KR Gathering needs to consider the following items. Some are requirements and some just make for a better event. - The desire to act as host for up to 150 people from all points of the country and possible international visitors. - Ability to plan and organize multiple functions for a large group, i.e. housing, meals, meetings, awards, banquet, merchandise sales, etc. - Complete co-operation and support of the local airport and the community. - Facilities: airport with multiple runways would be nice, not required, non towered airport preferred, hangar facilities for KR's a plus, ramp area large enough to handle KR's and visitors, terminal with restrooms and meeting rooms, restaurant on field a big plus, camping on airport a major plus. Not every airport is "ideal" for a Gathering but many airports are adequate. Your desire to host can overcome other facility shortcomings. None of this should discourage anyone from wanting to host a Gathering if you have the desire and adequate facilities. The KR crowd can have a good time anywhere as long as their basic needs are met. Larry Flesner 9 year Mt.Vernon, Illinois Gathering host _ -- Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
Are we a large enough group to have some regional meetings as well as the "Gathering"? Or, would this just detract from the "national" meet? Paul N7970K Derry NH - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" To: "KRnet" Cc: "Mark Langford" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:49:21 PM Subject: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? KRnetHeads, At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the community for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. It's worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody volunteered to host the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was prepared to volunteer Mt. Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until this Internet vote was decided upon instead. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
Hi, Try next EH-MZ small airport in the Netherlands...I will be there hahah. serious, I like all the stories about the Gathering and hope I will be there once in the future. Stef -- Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 >Origineel Bericht >Van : krnet at list.krnet.org >Datum : 25/09/2015 07:27 >Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org >Cc : no1son38 at aol.com >Onderwerp : Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? > >I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i bet >the builders who show up will be bigger. > > >Randy Moore >Newbern Tn 38059 > > >KR super single For sale > > >Avid MK IV > > >-Original Message- >From: Mark Jones via KRnet >To: KRnet >Cc: Mark Jones >Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm >Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? > > >Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that >it >is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have > >missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one. > >Mark Jones >(N886MJ) >Stevens Point, WI > >E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net >Web: >www.flykr2s.com > > > >___ >Search >the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >To UNsubscribe >from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >please see other KRnet >info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >see >http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options > > >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >options >
KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
I'm fer it, (MV). Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36 at usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran
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I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i bet the builders who show up will be bigger. Randy Moore Newbern Tn 38059 KR super single For sale Avid MK IV -Original Message- From: Mark Jones via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mark Jones Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that it is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
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Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that it is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KRnetHeads, At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the community for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. It's worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody volunteered to host the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was prepared to volunteer Mt. Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until this Internet vote was decided upon instead. So to me, we could just say "the next Gathering will be at Mt. Vernon, period", and I suspect that would echo the sentiment of the majority. But if anybody wants to volunteer to host it, we can add it to the mix and put it to a vote (Survey Monkey comes to mind), or if nobody else comes forward by the end of the weekend, we'll call it MVN and move on. Keep in mind the responsibilities and expectations associated with hosting the Gathering are not trivial. See Larry's short list from several weeks ago, below: ___ Anyone considering hosting a KR Gathering needs to consider the following items. Some are requirements and some just make for a better event. - The desire to act as host for up to 150 people from all points of the country and possible international visitors. - Ability to plan and organize multiple functions for a large group, i.e. housing, meals, meetings, awards, banquet, merchandise sales, etc. - Complete co-operation and support of the local airport and the community. - Facilities: airport with multiple runways would be nice, not required, non towered airport preferred, hangar facilities for KR's a plus, ramp area large enough to handle KR's and visitors, terminal with restrooms and meeting rooms, restaurant on field a big plus, camping on airport a major plus. Not every airport is "ideal" for a Gathering but many airports are adequate. Your desire to host can overcome other facility shortcomings. None of this should discourage anyone from wanting to host a Gathering if you have the desire and adequate facilities. The KR crowd can have a good time anywhere as long as their basic needs are met. Larry Flesner 9 year Mt.Vernon, Illinois Gathering host _ -- Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
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Thanks for the Compliment. I was the one who set up the group photoshoot with the help of Chris Collins (MVN Manager) for getting the Bucket Truck. I hold an Associate of Science Degree in Photography and have been photographing for about 35 years. For more of my photos visit here: http://photocamel.com/gallery/u15407-malodave.html Dave Mullins Nashua, NH On 9/14/2015 2:10 PM, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote: > http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html > > That was sure a great picture. I can't recall who it was that went > through the trouble of getting us all set up for that photo but thank you > again, whoever you are, for having such skill and patience. > > >
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I'll pass that on to my little bro. Lol Chris Pryce On Sep 14, 2015 2:27 PM, "Flesner via KRnet" wrote: > At 01:10 PM 9/14/2015, you wrote: > >> There's a newsletter >> dated 1991 with an article by Jerry Price who, with one of his pilot sons >> Ian, attended McMinnville. >> > > > If Jerry is on the net he might mention to Ian that my daughter Julie, who > attended the banquet with me, is single and being a pilot is one of my top > qualifications for approval as a son-in-law. :-) Other qualifications are > at Julie's discretion. :-) :-) > > Larry Flesner > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
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Hi Marc. I'll be glad to create & publish a 2014 Gathering Photos page. Can you pass them on to me? I wasn't there... -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc Baca via KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Gathering photos Thanks Mike; I noticed that there are no pictures of the 2014 Gathering. I can forward the pictures from these two "quick and dirty" slideshows that I put together immediately after each day of the 2014 gathering should anyone be willing to post some of them on the web site. Marc BacaEast Los Angeles N13UG
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http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html That was sure a great picture. I can't recall who it was that went through the trouble of getting us all set up for that photo but thank you again, whoever you are, for having such skill and patience. Also see Marc Baca's excellent collage at: https://vimeo.com/50812971 That 2012 Mt. Vernon Gathering was perhaps the last one where we had what's left of the early KR movers and shakers. Dan Diehl, Jeannette, Steve & Linda Bennett, Ken Cottle, Glover, Jim Faughn, Dan Heath, Mark Jones. I know I'm leaving out a few names of the early KR people who attended that Gathering but my memory isn't serving me well. I think Tommy Waymack was there along with Virgil Salisbury and others. In that picture Ken Cottle is standing second row to the right next to the KR-1? he built that has served me so well. This KR incidentally is the one used in Dan Diehl's wing skin installation video. It was Dan in fact that bestowed upon it the designation of "KR-1?". I think that was the last of the truly great KR Gatherings simply because some of those who attended that one won't be attending any more. It's been miserably hot and humid in SoCal since I got back from Oregon and except for a quick 45 minute trip to Big Bear a few days ago I've just been hanging out in front of the fans reading old KR newsletters. It might surprise some to know that Dan Heath and Mark Jones have been building KR's since 1990 or before. Jones has built at least two and Dan two, maybe three? I was also amazed to find Russ Barnett's little jewel of a KR that took top honors in 2012 . . . amazed to find a picture of it in a newsletter from the early 90's! Eh? Russ brought that KR in on a trailer to the 40th Anniversery Gathering in 2012 and I thought it was a new build. It was the most meticulously perfect-in-every-detail KR I'd ever seen - something to be featured behind glass at Cartier or Abacrombie & Fitch. I'm wondering now if it's ever flown. It's been around a lot longer that I thought, that's for sure. We can sure learn a lot from the old newsletters. There's a newsletter dated 1991 with an article by Jerry Price who, with one of his pilot sons Ian, attended McMinnville. We did a prop balance on his Stinson 108. The history in these newsletters is priceless, as is the KRNET archive with its truly excellent search function. Mike KSEE No Branches = Great Rates High Yield CDs & Savings Accounts. 24/7 helpful customer service. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/55f70db92edbcdb90b3dst02vuc
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KRNet Heads, Mark & I must have been on the same page & both took most of the week off after the Gathering. I just got home last night. It looks like there is a lot of reading to catch up on... As to the Gathering web site, sorry for the delay on publishing pictures. I didn't collect a ton of photos but what I have (including Kim & Roger departing into the Sunday morning sunrise) are on the Gathering web page referenced by the KRNet.Org web site; http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html or you can jump directly to it via; http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/web_pages/gathering2015.htm If you want to see your images posted, please add to the collection. Email your photos to me at (kr2s at bouyea.net) and I'll get them posted as soon as I can. Thanks to everyone for making the 2015 Gathering a success! John Bouyea/ 2015 Gathering Co-Host N5391M/ KR2 OR81/ Hillsboro, OR -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 6:46 PM Cc: Mark Langford Subject: Re: KR> Gathering photos ... I took quite a few pictures... ... Mark Langford
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Mike Stirewalt wrote: > I really wish somebody would publish an overview of this year's > Gathering - who attended, who won what awards, pictures. I saw plenty > of cameras there but so far I haven't seen any results of what surely > is a treasure trove of photographs. I took quite a few pictures...so many that it will take a while to sort them out and turn them into a web page, but I'll try to get that done in the next few days. As for awards, they were mostly split between Jeff Scott and Kim Niebauer, although there are definitely some honorable mentions, such as Roger Bulla's newly minted plane. They were all very close in terms of quality. I also got air-to-air shots of all the KRs visiting (except for Mike's...he was not around for that), and we owe John Bouyea for that photo opportunity. It was a well-done Gathering. Many thanks to Dan and John for pulling off a great Gathering. I haven't done anything regarding the Gathering photos because we've been riding around Oregon and Washington national parks for the last week, ending up with Mt St. Helens "national monument" yesterday. That was quite interesting. It had recovered amazingly well from the photos I remember from the news way back in 1980...just gray moonscape with zillions of tree trunks laid out like match sticks...all pointing away from the blast zone. It looks a lot better now, and it's good to see how nature manages to recover from that kind of event. More on that (much later) when I do a web page on that vacation... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
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Thank you Marc.Tommy W, former gathering host.And thanks to the KR community for the opportunity to be a part of it. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Sparky Sparks via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > Thank you Marc' Sparky Sparks > > -Original Message- From: Marc Baca via KRnet > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 AM > To: KRnet > Cc: Marc Baca ; Steve G. > Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering > > > I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn > but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about. > Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some > subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has > indulged in some impropriety. One such comment is the folowing.. > "Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering > books" > > I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words > and that they does not translate into Steve Glover (who organized the 2014 > Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular > misunderstandings. > > I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of > the expenses for last year's gathering. I'm sure that he won't bother > anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the > 2014 KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for > the guys he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the > worshops. and out of sheer consideration for attendees the > constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks, > the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional for > people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address > system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure > the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to > get things done.Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might > not know the amount of time and effort it took to deal with the > administration at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the > coordination of the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to > convince. I'm certain there's alot more that did that does not come to > mind at the moment. > I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is > non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety. > Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars > into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts > available at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can > see Steve's frustration building year after year as some of these posts add > insult to the financial injury. > > For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character, > I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time > he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not > witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary > discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him > fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas > transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years > I've witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the > KRnet. Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not > under his control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this > Steve Glover has made a great contribution to the KR Community 75% of > the time at his own expense as there is little financial gain in the > KR parts business and almost all of the time there is negative financial > gain. Every month, year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at > him, he keeps the availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for > the KR coming. > > Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up a discussion about this... > My comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's > anxieties as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero > Hangar. > > I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these > gatherings as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort. > Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG > > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet < > krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > Yet again, nobody contacted me. > > Steve Glover > > Sent from my electronic leash. > > On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I received the following personal e
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I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about. Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has indulged in some impropriety.?? One such comment is the folowing.. "Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering books" I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words and that they does not translate into? Steve Glover (who organized the 2014 Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular misunderstandings. I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of the expenses for last year's gathering.? I'm sure that he won't bother anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the 2014 KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for the guys he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the worshops.? and out of sheer consideration for attendees the constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks, the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional? for people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to get things done. ?? Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might not know the amount of time and effort it took to deal? with the administration at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the coordination of the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to convince.? I'm certain there's alot more that? did that does not come to mind at the moment. I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety.?? Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts available at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can see Steve's frustration building year after year as some of these posts add insult to the financial injury. For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character, I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years I've witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the KRnet. Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not under his control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this? Steve Glover has made a great contribution to the KR Community 75% of the time at his own expense as there is? little financial gain in the KR parts business and almost all of the time there is negative financial gain.? Every month, year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at him, he keeps the availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for the KR coming.? Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up? a discussion about this... My comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's anxieties? as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero Hangar.? I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these gatherings? as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort.? Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet wrote: Yet again, nobody contacted me. Steve Glover Sent from my electronic leash. > On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > > > > I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply to > the group as I'm sure others have the same concern.? E-mail and reply are > below. > > Larry Flesner > > > > At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >> Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion' on a >> public forum? > > > I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation it > created. In spite of Steve's comment "Your "situation" is a joke and created > by certain persons with their own agenda", his procrastination left Dan and > John with no idea what fu
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Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion' on a public forum? TK On 11 September 2015 at 14:12, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > At 09:31 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: > >> Dan receive the funds in the same timeframe that I received it from you >> last year. I didn't receive the funds or ask for them for that matter until >> August of last year which is when the funds were actually needed to pay for >> items so if Dan is saying otherwise then that's his deal and frankly I >> really don't care. Could I have sent them along sooner, probably so if I >> would've done the final breakdown sooner. >> > > > > ++ > > I informed you early in the year that the funds were available any time > you determined how much you needed. You requested them on 7/12/2014 at > 2:22PM. I informed you two hours later (4:11PM) that the check would be in > the mail that weekend or on Monday. You could have had the funds in March > if you had requested them. It's my understanding that the same > communications did not take place between you and Dan and that a check > showed up just weeks before this years Gathering. Waiting nearly a year to > do a report of $4000 of Gathering funds and mailing the check (as stated > above) , seems less than responsible. I'm certainly not critical of you > coming up a bit short, it happens year to year. My primary concern was > your lack of communication with the host of this years Gathering. The > situation created has the KR community jumping through hoops suggesting > solutions to problems I really don't think the group has. A bit of > organizing and a healthy dose of responsibility is all that is needed, IMHO. > > > I regret having to call you out on the handling and reporting of the > Gathering funds but a more responsible approach on your part to that > responsibility would have avoided it ever becoming an issue. I had hoped > that you would have handled the situation in a more mature manner, > especially when communicating with a group you hope to do business with, > but I have no control with that. If I am wrong with any of the facts I > have stated, please advise and I will publicly apologize to you and to the > group. Until then I stand by my post. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
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Thank you Marc' Sparky Sparks -Original Message- From: Marc Baca via KRnet Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:58 AM To: KRnet Cc: Marc Baca ; Steve G. Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering I typically maintain a low profile on the net and simply listen and learn but today I'm compelled to talk about something I know a little about. Throughout the last couple of years i've seen a few individuals lob some subtle and often less than subtle suggestions that Steve Glover has indulged in some impropriety. One such comment is the folowing.. "Hopefully there will be a full accounting to close those Gathering books" I'm hoping that comments like these are simply an abrupt choice of words and that they does not translate into Steve Glover (who organized the 2014 Gathering) having to deal with yet another layer of popular misunderstandings. I'm almost positive that Steve Glover will NOT give a "FULL" accounting of the expenses for last year's gathering. I'm sure that he won't bother anyone by commenting about the the numerous days he took off to get the 2014 KR Gathering locked in, the amount of $$ he spent out of pocket for the guys he had to pay to clean and arranged a production hangar for the worshops. and out of sheer consideration for attendees the constructions and installation of a new toilet (for older folk) and sinks, the siding so that the hangar would look presentable and functional for people, the renting and purchase of amenities like the Public Address system, chairs and tables, the loss he took purchasing items to make sure the workshops were useful to people, the gasoline from driving around to get things done.Because the 2014 gathering appeared seemless, one might not know the amount of time and effort it took to deal with the administration at the airport, discussions with insurance companies, the coordination of the cadre of volunteers and contributors that he had to convince. I'm certain there's alot more that did that does not come to mind at the moment. I often see a posts that suggest that he is running a KR business that is non responsive and have even seen the suggestion of fiduciary impropriety. Many people don't know that he has invested several thousands of dollars into a business (perhaps $75K or more) that keeps premade KR Parts available at a significant loss to him personally year after year. I can see Steve's frustration building year after year as some of these posts add insult to the financial injury. For those of you who have been swayed with a question about his character, I've seen Steve almost every weekend for the last 4 years during which time he's taught me to build aircraft. In the 4 years I've known him, I have not witnessed even ONE incidence where Steve has indulged in any monetary discrepancies. People never find out about the finicky buyers that cost him fees after rescinding their orders due to the unfounded comments and ideas transmitted through emails and such. Moreover, the last couple of years I've witnessed people's expressed anxieties about plans and parts on the KRnet. Most of the time the delays were caused by things that were not under his control. I wont bore anyone with details but consider this Steve Glover has made a great contribution to the KR Community 75% of the time at his own expense as there is little financial gain in the KR parts business and almost all of the time there is negative financial gain. Every month, year after year, despite the cyber wallops lobbed at him, he keeps the availability of pre made parts, kits and innovations for the KR coming. Once again, I'm not interested in stirring up a discussion about this... My comment is for the purpose of precluding a discussion about people's anxieties as I personally witness the weekly operations at the NVaero Hangar. I also want to tip my hat to those individuals who assemble these gatherings as I've witnessed that it is a Herculean effort. Marc BacaEast L.A.N13UG On Friday, September 11, 2015 6:09 AM, Steve G. via KRnet wrote: Yet again, nobody contacted me. Steve Glover Sent from my electronic leash. > On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > > > > I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply to > the group as I'm sure others have the same concern. E-mail and reply are > below. > > Larry Flesner > > > > At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >> Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion' >> on a public forum? > > > I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation it > created. In spite of Steve's co
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I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply to the group as I'm sure others have the same concern. E-mail and reply are below. Larry Flesner At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this >'discussion' on a public forum? I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation it created. In spite of Steve's comment "Your "situation" is a joke and created by certain persons with their own agenda", his procrastination left Dan and John with no idea what funds they had to work with until shortly before the Gathering. It left people thinking we were short of funds and generated discussions at the Gathering about incorporating, having elected officers, people feeling obligated to donate additional funds, etc. I don't consider that "situation" to be a joke and felt everyone concerned needed to know the facts so we could make some rational decisions concerning future Gatherings. And yes, at this point, if there are any future communications, they can be handled off line. As a member of the steering committee, I hope to have open, honest, and timely communication for future Gatherings. Larry Flesner
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Yet again, nobody contacted me. Steve Glover Sent from my electronic leash. > On Sep 11, 2015, at 05:40, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > > > > I received the following personal e-mail and felt it necessary to reply to > the group as I'm sure others have the same concern. E-mail and reply are > below. > > Larry Flesner > > > > At 11:29 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >> Guys, is it really necessary/appropriate to be having this 'discussion' on a >> public forum? > > > I felt it necessary to put the info on the net because of the situation it > created. In spite of Steve's comment "Your "situation" is a joke and created > by certain persons with their own agenda", his procrastination left Dan and > John with no idea what funds they had to work with until shortly before the > Gathering. It left people thinking we were short of funds and generated > discussions at the Gathering about incorporating, having elected officers, > people feeling obligated to donate additional funds, etc. I don't consider > that "situation" to be a joke and felt everyone concerned needed to know the > facts so we could make some rational decisions concerning future Gatherings. > > And yes, at this point, if there are any future communications, they can be > handled off line. As a member of the steering committee, I hope to have > open, honest, and timely communication for future Gatherings. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
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At 09:31 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >Dan receive the funds in the same timeframe that I received it from >you last year. I didn't receive the funds or ask for them for that >matter until August of last year which is when the funds were >actually needed to pay for items so if Dan is saying otherwise then >that's his deal and frankly I really don't care. Could I have sent >them along sooner, probably so if I would've done the final breakdown sooner. ++ I informed you early in the year that the funds were available any time you determined how much you needed. You requested them on 7/12/2014 at 2:22PM. I informed you two hours later (4:11PM) that the check would be in the mail that weekend or on Monday. You could have had the funds in March if you had requested them. It's my understanding that the same communications did not take place between you and Dan and that a check showed up just weeks before this years Gathering. Waiting nearly a year to do a report of $4000 of Gathering funds and mailing the check (as stated above) , seems less than responsible. I'm certainly not critical of you coming up a bit short, it happens year to year. My primary concern was your lack of communication with the host of this years Gathering. The situation created has the KR community jumping through hoops suggesting solutions to problems I really don't think the group has. A bit of organizing and a healthy dose of responsibility is all that is needed, IMHO. I regret having to call you out on the handling and reporting of the Gathering funds but a more responsible approach on your part to that responsibility would have avoided it ever becoming an issue. I had hoped that you would have handled the situation in a more mature manner, especially when communicating with a group you hope to do business with, but I have no control with that. If I am wrong with any of the facts I have stated, please advise and I will publicly apologize to you and to the group. Until then I stand by my post. Larry Flesner
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Whatever makes you happy Larry. I left a phone message and email for contact but didn't get a response so was initially going to send it to Mark L. Ask him if you like. I found John's address so sent it to him as I had no follow up contact if there was any concern. He had it approx 30 days before the gathering. I've already stated it could have been done sooner but I just didn't. It sat in the same lock box since the last gathering and until I could finish the last couple orders, "which I still have three hats that I paid for and not the gathering fund". Your "situation" is a joke and created by certain persons with their own agenda. I had spoken to Mark on several occasions about the fund and it certainly was not in question as to if it would be sent that I am aware of. I mentioned to him more than once about trying to get a chance to finish it up. I did have to locate some receipts that were left in the hangar. I'm really not too broken up with your opinion of my maturity or responsibility. Steve Glover Sent from my electronic leash. > On Sep 10, 2015, at 21:12, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > At 09:31 PM 9/10/2015, you wrote: >> Dan receive the funds in the same timeframe that I received it from you last >> year. I didn't receive the funds or ask for them for that matter until >> August of last year which is when the funds were actually needed to pay for >> items so if Dan is saying otherwise then that's his deal and frankly I >> really don't care. Could I have sent them along sooner, probably so if I >> would've done the final breakdown sooner. > > > ++ > > I informed you early in the year that the funds were available any time you > determined how much you needed. You requested them on 7/12/2014 at 2:22PM. > I informed you two hours later (4:11PM) that the check would be in the mail > that weekend or on Monday. You could have had the funds in March if you had > requested them. It's my understanding that the same communications did not > take place between you and Dan and that a check showed up just weeks before > this years Gathering. Waiting nearly a year to do a report of $4000 of > Gathering funds and mailing the check (as stated above) , seems less than > responsible. I'm certainly not critical of you coming up a bit short, it > happens year to year. My primary concern was your lack of communication with > the host of this years Gathering. The situation created has the KR community > jumping through hoops suggesting solutions to problems I really don't think > the group has. A bit of organizing and a healthy dose of responsibility is > all that is needed, IMHO. > > > I regret having to call you out on the handling and reporting of the > Gathering funds but a more responsible approach on your part to that > responsibility would have avoided it ever becoming an issue. I had hoped > that you would have handled the situation in a more mature manner, especially > when communicating with a group you hope to do business with, but I have no > control with that. If I am wrong with any of the facts I have stated, please > advise and I will publicly apologize to you and to the group. Until then I > stand by my post. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
