Fw: KR> tri gear and taildragger update.......
> #$#$#$#$#$#$#$##$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$# > > To the net. > > Mike was 100% correct. Haveing 3 pointed my taildragger 3 time now, you > have to come down a little nose down, and wheel land. And yes put some > down in after you land, classic wheel landing stuff. He was right to say > you can have to nose up abit on the tri gear, to 1 help slow you down, and > 2 to make sure you hit the mains first and not the nose first. I have the > original retracts and there seems to be about a 2 foot height difference > sitting on the ground. It is not a full 2 feet but you get the drift. > With my plane sitting s low to the ground, I feel like I get 2 ground > effects(affects) whatever. Sunday morning I got in the plane N395JT and > circled the airport for about 15 minutes. all temps were good and I > headed south to Casa Grande to show the owner that the plane did fly. The > landing was very... and I mean very smooth. The plane flew alot better > than mine. Solid in the air and I could fly hands off for about 20 > seconds. A life time in mine. The doc and I chatted for abit and I took > off, circled once for a flyby, and back to my port. Another good landing, > a little fast but good brakes are good. I packed my stuff in the > passenger seat and headed to Payson AZ, 9000 and 45 minutes later I passed > Payson and headed to Holbrook AZ. I landed with about 2 gallons left. > Talk to Bob Glidden, gassed up and headed to Grants NM. Topped off and > slugged my way off the runway @ 6700 ft. I had about 3 ft per minute > climb until I got the airspeed up to about 120. A 45 minute flight to > Sandia airpark in Edgewood NM. and landed on a long bumpy 30 foot wide > strip of something called a runway. Shut it down, talked to the new > owner, 5.5 hours 5 landing later all in the same day. Then to the BBQ. > The new Owner Tom Thomas is friends with a prof MMA Fighter called Cowboy. > Don something, ill have to look it up. the next day today I drove his > truck to Las Cruces with one of his farm hands. Picked up his other plane > a Pereditor Ultra Pup. I'm going to help fix that up. Drove all day and > 38 hours later back home. > > Good night > > Lee Van Dyke > Lee, > > I did not understand that stuff that Mike was saying about being able to > get > in a higher angle of attack because of not having the tail wheel back > there. > Maybe a little, but really? I think it is the difference in the planes > rather than the configuration. I have never landed a tri-cycle gear KR, > but > I'll bet it is just like the tail wheel low landing in the conventional, > being careful to not get too aggressive on the forward stick. > > I know that I use forward stick when the mains touch, to kill the lift. > Sometimes I get pretty aggressive about it, but you have made so many more > landings than I have, that I'll bet you won't have any problem with it. > > Good luck. Let us know how it goes and what the difference is after you > have experienced it in person. I am really curious. > >
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Mark said, > ". . . but maybe 25% of the time the tailwheel hits a little first." On a grass strip that works a lot better I think. Much easier on the tailwheel than pavement. Mike KSEE Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=oyXF_PbZFPIXkoqkGpD8SwAAJ1A9mk8a0luj1TJO2sh3zRLgAAYAAADNAAAYQAA=
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Mike KSEE wrote: > - landing it with the correct > angle of attack - puts my tailwheel way down there where it hits the > ground well before the mains. Ugly. That's essentially how I land mine, although I usually manage to hit mains and tail at the same time, but maybe 25% of the time the tailwheel hits a little first. People that've flown with me probably call it "ugly" as well! But it's done flying and is the safest way to land on a short strip. You're going as slow as possible and as long as you put it on the end of the runway, you're going to mimimize the amount of runway you burn up in the landing. As was mentioned eariler, speed control on final is critical, but that's manageable with a slip or a little extra power if needed. Maybe that's what my split flaps buy me, but for my plane (and presumably taildragger KR2S's that are built in a similar fashion), I've determined it's the best way to land on my short strip. If I had 5000' x 100' wide to dally around with, I might have a different opinion, but I don't. And most folks will testify that I'm not much of a pilot... Mark Langford n5...@hiwaay.net website www.n56ml.com
KR> tri gear and taildragger
> "Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference" I think Lee was only asking about the differences between them, not which one is better. There are differences of course, but if you've been flying a taildragger KR getting in a tri-gear KR is like getting in a two-place Grumman. I think what Dan said about the variations in weight, fuselage length, & wing loading all make it difficult to say anything solid about TD KR's and three point landings. I've landed a number of times in the three-point attitude and had a wing lift or even found myself back up in the air. That's because the geometry of my current KR and the retractable I had before that both do not allow one to touch down at a full stall. Nowhere near it. At least 10 MPH over - even more with the retractable. There's still lots of lift left in my wings even though I may be (barely) on the ground in a three-pointer. That's why I find myself getting blown off the runway or salvaging a second touch-down if a gust crosses the wings at this critical point. I'll do them if things are calm but since I can't raise the nose in the flare any higher than my tailwheel will allow, I generally do my landings the way Jim Faughn describes in his treatise. The tri-gear on the other hand will let you play with the stall and get on the edge of it. The KR wing is very predictable and invites a pilot to do this (unlike a Lancair, for instance). I was surprised at how satisfying it was to be able to actually have control of the angle of attack on landing the first time I got to fly a tri-gear. I hate having to "drive" my plane onto the runway, but that's what I have to do with my taildragger. I have to land it with excess speed simply because slowing it down to the proper speed for touchdown - landing it with the correct angle of attack - puts my tailwheel way down there where it hits the ground well before the mains. Ugly. Ken or Steve put a block between the fuselage and the tailwheel in order to lower the nose - to better be able to see over it I guess. Taking that block out has been on my list of things to do so I'll be doing this once I finish with some other plane projects I'm working on. I've just learned to live with not being able to stall the airplane onto the runway. There are none of these concerns with the tri-gear. The tail is high enough you can bring it in full-stall and very slow. It was a real pleasure to full-stall land the tri-gear KR with that barn-door drag flap that Morehead's plane has. If it weren't for the nosegear drag once in the air and the fact that a tri-gear KR just doesn't "look" right, I'd probably prefer one. The retractable KR is the one that "looks right" to me, but that's just me. Mike KSEE Nutrition Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=H5Wy-yi1qIetONn5wY7SywAAJ1A9mk8a0luj1TJO2sh3zRLgAAYAAADNAAASQwA=
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Well said Mark, I fly a nose dragger, as I do not have a tail wheel endorsement as yet. But I have been in some bad ( strong) X wind landing in the KR, as my home strip has only one runway. The nose wheel set up handles them very well. Phil Matheson SAAA Ch 20 www.phils...@50megs.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:01 AM Subject: Re: KR> tri gear and taildragger KRnetHeads, Just because there has to be one in every crowd, almost all of my landings are 3 point. That's mainly because of my short strip, and I can't afford to touch down 10 mph faster and burn up all that runway, even with my split flaps. No, the KR can't do a full stall landing, but it really doesn't have to. When you slow it down, it drops. You just have to time it so it isn't dropping really fast when you arrive at the touchdown point. Whether the nose is way up in the air or not is immaterial, and the speed difference between "almost stalled" and "full stall" is not large. I like to three point mine because when you hit the ground, you're done flying. No more excursions back into the air with reduced control effectiveness...all you have to do is steer, which is easy. Maybe I'm just thick, but I've not seen any of the scary stuff that I keep hearing about tailwheel airplanes. Troy Petteway once told me that the KR is the best behaved tailwheel plane on the planet, and although I've only flown a few others, I suspect he's right about that. The main reason I built a tailwheel version is because I fly to my father's grass strip often, and I wanted that extra 10-12 mph speed, the improved efficiency that goes with that, the special (and often restrictive) engine mount, and the $400 savings (and maintenance hassles) over the nose wheel. I can't argue that the tri-gear isn't easier to land (purely from the physics of a self-stabilizing design), improved taxi visibility, and I think they even look a more substantial airplane (which might help to get your wife in there). I'm not going to give anybody a hard time about deciding to go with tri-gear. It's like most things in life, a trade-off situation where intelligent decisions are deliberated based on one's personal preferences and situation. Having said that, when I build another one it'll definitely be a taildragger... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Well guys, I'm going to sign off from this forum. It is nice but I'm not sure this is the place for me. On Mar 28, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Dj Merrill wrote: > On 3/28/2010 8:50 AM, Randy Smith wrote: >> And I bet it made him feel good too. Answer 1 question why put a >> nosegear on it? > > Easier, safer, cheaper insurance, and increased sale opportunities > (there are more younger standard tricycle gear pilots than there are > taildragger pilots these days, which is who would be buying it if you > had to sell it). > > The only downside I can see to a tricycle gear setup is a very slight > decrease in the top end speed (maybe 5 kts?). > > Overall, the pros of the tricycle gear setup outweigh the cons. I > think most people go with a taildragger simply because they want > to, not > because it makes any sense to do so. Nothing wrong with that, as > it is > one of the reasons why we are involved in experimental aviation. > > The simple fact is, you only spend a very small fraction of each > flight > on the ground, which is where there is any real substantial difference > between a tricycle and a taildragger. Once you are in the air, > there is > effectively no difference between the two. > > If only a small fraction of the time it makes any difference (when in > the flare and on the ground), from my perspective, why wouldn't you > want > to have the safest KR that you can, which implies tricycle gear? > > -Dj > > -- > Dj Merrill - N1JOV > Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/ > sportsman/ > Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/ > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger
On 3/28/2010 8:50 AM, Randy Smith wrote: > And I bet it made him feel good too. Answer 1 question why put a nosegear on > it? Easier, safer, cheaper insurance, and increased sale opportunities (there are more younger standard tricycle gear pilots than there are taildragger pilots these days, which is who would be buying it if you had to sell it). The only downside I can see to a tricycle gear setup is a very slight decrease in the top end speed (maybe 5 kts?). Overall, the pros of the tricycle gear setup outweigh the cons. I think most people go with a taildragger simply because they want to, not because it makes any sense to do so. Nothing wrong with that, as it is one of the reasons why we are involved in experimental aviation. The simple fact is, you only spend a very small fraction of each flight on the ground, which is where there is any real substantial difference between a tricycle and a taildragger. Once you are in the air, there is effectively no difference between the two. If only a small fraction of the time it makes any difference (when in the flare and on the ground), from my perspective, why wouldn't you want to have the safest KR that you can, which implies tricycle gear? -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/
KR> tri gear and taildragger
KRnetHeads, Just because there has to be one in every crowd, almost all of my landings are 3 point. That's mainly because of my short strip, and I can't afford to touch down 10 mph faster and burn up all that runway, even with my split flaps. No, the KR can't do a full stall landing, but it really doesn't have to. When you slow it down, it drops. You just have to time it so it isn't dropping really fast when you arrive at the touchdown point. Whether the nose is way up in the air or not is immaterial, and the speed difference between "almost stalled" and "full stall" is not large. I like to three point mine because when you hit the ground, you're done flying. No more excursions back into the air with reduced control effectiveness...all you have to do is steer, which is easy. Maybe I'm just thick, but I've not seen any of the scary stuff that I keep hearing about tailwheel airplanes. Troy Petteway once told me that the KR is the best behaved tailwheel plane on the planet, and although I've only flown a few others, I suspect he's right about that. The main reason I built a tailwheel version is because I fly to my father's grass strip often, and I wanted that extra 10-12 mph speed, the improved efficiency that goes with that, the special (and often restrictive) engine mount, and the $400 savings (and maintenance hassles) over the nose wheel. I can't argue that the tri-gear isn't easier to land (purely from the physics of a self-stabilizing design), improved taxi visibility, and I think they even look a more substantial airplane (which might help to get your wife in there). I'm not going to give anybody a hard time about deciding to go with tri-gear. It's like most things in life, a trade-off situation where intelligent decisions are deliberated based on one's personal preferences and situation. Having said that, when I build another one it'll definitely be a taildragger... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> tri gear and taildragger
I have a fairly stock KR2 with a Diehl fixed conventional gear, and will not say that it is "impossible", just not "predictable". I have done it once, but could never repeat it. Wheel landings feel more safe anyway. The stall speed seems to vary on each KR, as you would expect with the weight and wing variances. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- I have the impression it is not possible to achieve a full stall landing in a TD KR2 (remember, mine is not a S version). Can anyone elaborate on this? Thanks.
KR> tri gear and taildragger
I have been reading the Tri vs TD posts. I am particularly interested in knowing more about the stall speed and behavior of the KR2 and KR2S in this configuration. From what I have read so far , I have the impression it is not possible to achieve a full stall landing in a TD KR2 (remember, mine is not a S version). Can anyone elaborate on this? Thanks. -- Glenn Martin Owner KR2 N1333A Biloxi, MS, 39532 rep...@martekmississippi.com
KR> tri gear and taildragger update.......
Randy, Your KR may have been different than most. Wheel landings are the preferred method for landing a KR, and that may be because the fixed gear puts the angle of attack a bit higher than it would be on the retract gear, for which the plane was designed. I hope that new pilots don't read this and think that 3 point is the way to go, because it is the exception rather than the rule. Please read this from Jim Faughn. http://www.jfaughn.com/other/kr/uniquepartsofmykr/kr_landing.html See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Randy Smith Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:02 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> tri gear and taildragger update... It is surprising how many people do not land 3 point I had over 600 hrs on my KR before I sold it and I bet 95% of the landings where 3 point. I have a 47 Bellanca that all my landings are 3 point. I believe it is what you are comfortable with.
KR> tri gear and taildragger update.......
All kidding aside. This is a true statement. I've made a good living teaching tailwheel to guys and it boils down to what you are comfortable with. The reality is that most tailwheel airplanes aren't really harder than nose gear planes but are terribly unforgiving of error and neglect. I can't personally attest for the KR however most TW equipped airplanes are better behaved with the TW firm to the ground. Especially high powered short coupled ones light the Pitts. The biggest issues I see here are your comfort level and the drag benefit. If you aren't comfortable with a TW no amount of convincing or training is going to work. However, if you can get over that then the drag benefit you get using a TW is probably worth it. On Mar 28, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Randy Smith wrote: > It is surprising how many people do not land 3 point I had over 600 > hrs on my KR before I sold it and I bet 95% of the landings where 3 > point. I have a 47 Bellanca that all my landings are 3 point. > I believe it is what you are comfortable with. > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke5.com> wrote: > > > From: Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke5.com> > Subject: Re: KR> tri gear and taildragger update... > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:37 PM > > > I have a taildragger, and I have landed in a 3 point twice, I said > that I > would never do that again until last SAT,,, I will say it > again, I will > never do that again. period. I have to fly a tric gear tommorow > and I just > wanted to know what to look for. THANK YOU JIM SELLERS. and Mark > Jones you > are just wrong on so many levels. The biggest thing that I have > noticed is > taxiing. with a tail wheel you can steer. Now that the brakes > have been > bled and work better, so is my taxiing. I have to learn how to T/O > and land > this plane and deliver it to MN. all in that same weekend. > > Thank you for all the input. > > Lee Van Dyke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <laser...@juno.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:42 PM > Subject: KR> tri gear and taildragger > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
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It is surprising how many people do not land 3 point I had over 600 hrs on my KR before I sold it and I bet 95% of the landings where 3 point. I have a 47 Bellanca that all my landings are 3 point. I believe it is what you are comfortable with. --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke5.com> wrote: From: Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke5.com> Subject: Re: KR> tri gear and taildragger update... To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:37 PM I have a taildragger, and I have landed in a 3 point twice, I said that I would never do that again until last SAT,,, I will say it again, I will never do that again. period. I have to fly a tric gear tommorow and I just wanted to know what to look for. THANK YOU JIM SELLERS. and Mark Jones you are just wrong on so many levels. The biggest thing that I have noticed is taxiing. with a tail wheel you can steer. Now that the brakes have been bled and work better, so is my taxiing. I have to learn how to T/O and land this plane and deliver it to MN. all in that same weekend. Thank you for all the input. Lee Van Dyke - Original Message - From: <laser...@juno.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: KR> tri gear and taildragger
KR> tri gear and taildragger
And I bet it made him feel good too. Answer 1 question why put a nosegear on it? (makes it easier to land , A Kids plane) --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Mark Jones <flyk...@charter.net> wrote: From: Mark Jones <flyk...@charter.net> Subject: Re: KR> tri gear and taildragger To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 9:50 AM >One's a "real man's" airplane and the other has a training wheel on >the front.. Bullcrap ! You guys crack me up. I seen a dog doing a little taildragging the other day. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger update.......
I have a taildragger, and I have landed in a 3 point twice, I said that I would never do that again until last SAT,,, I will say it again, I will never do that again. period. I have to fly a tric gear tommorow and I just wanted to know what to look for. THANK YOU JIM SELLERS. and Mark Jones you are just wrong on so many levels. The biggest thing that I have noticed is taxiing. with a tail wheel you can steer. Now that the brakes have been bled and work better, so is my taxiing. I have to learn how to T/O and land this plane and deliver it to MN. all in that same weekend. Thank you for all the input. Lee Van Dyke - Original Message - From: <laser...@juno.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: KR> tri gear and taildragger > Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference I helped Jim Morehead with his beautifully built tri-gear a few months ago - did the first flight and several more over two days. My normal steed is Ken Cottle's KR-1½ and my previous KR was also a taildragger - a standard KR - so a taildragger KR is most familiar to me. My taildragger in the three-point attitude is nowhere near the full-stall angle of attack, so I have to land at a speed higher than what I would prefer. With short runways speed control is critical for me. Jim's plane, because the tail is higher off the ground, allowed a much higher angle of attack and slower speed for touching down. The gentle KR wing just settles on at full stall with no sharp break (assuming the plane is built as accurately as Jim's is). You're barely moving when you do it correctly with any wind on the nose at all. Also helping this ability with Jim's plane was his 90º barn door drag flap under the cockpit. His manual extension/retraction mechanism of his own design was very solid and in stark contrast to the flimsy mechanism and shallow drag flap angle that I have. His tri-gear was a joy to land. In my opinion the tri-gear is more fun to land because you can get the nose way up where it's supposed to be when landing. Trying to land like that in my taildragger will hit the tailwheel and then flop the mains down, a technique hard on the tailwheel and just not generally graceful. Mike KSEE Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=Qzpb7r8aFSsHwfFh821wjQAAJ1A9mk8a0luj1TJO2sh3zRLgAAYAAADNAAAYQAA= ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Sorry, just couldn't help it. On Mar 27, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Mark Jones wrote: >> One's a "real man's" airplane and the other has a training wheel on >> the front.. > > Bullcrap ! You guys crack me up. I seen a dog doing a little > taildragging the other day. > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger
>One's a "real man's" airplane and the other has a training wheel on >the front.. Bullcrap ! You guys crack me up. I seen a dog doing a little taildragging the other day. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Stevens Point, WI E-mail: flyk...@charter.net Web: www.flykr2s.com
KR> tri gear and taildragger
One's a "real man's" airplane and the other has a training wheel on the front.. On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Lee Van Dyke wrote: > Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Two major differences are take off and landing. With tric, while you "land on" the back wheels, you have to land on the front wheels with tail dragger. Same concept on take off. Completely different technique with tric versus tail dragger. In short, where'd you'd pull back for tric, you have to arefully forward the stick for tail dragger. - Original Message - From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 22:32 Subject: KR> tri gear and taildragger Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 03:33:00
KR> tri gear and taildragger
> Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference I helped Jim Morehead with his beautifully built tri-gear a few months ago - did the first flight and several more over two days. My normal steed is Ken Cottle's KR-1½ and my previous KR was also a taildragger - a standard KR - so a taildragger KR is most familiar to me. My taildragger in the three-point attitude is nowhere near the full-stall angle of attack, so I have to land at a speed higher than what I would prefer. With short runways speed control is critical for me. Jim's plane, because the tail is higher off the ground, allowed a much higher angle of attack and slower speed for touching down. The gentle KR wing just settles on at full stall with no sharp break (assuming the plane is built as accurately as Jim's is). You're barely moving when you do it correctly with any wind on the nose at all. Also helping this ability with Jim's plane was his 90º barn door drag flap under the cockpit. His manual extension/retraction mechanism of his own design was very solid and in stark contrast to the flimsy mechanism and shallow drag flap angle that I have. His tri-gear was a joy to land. In my opinion the tri-gear is more fun to land because you can get the nose way up where it's supposed to be when landing. Trying to land like that in my taildragger will hit the tailwheel and then flop the mains down, a technique hard on the tailwheel and just not generally graceful. Mike KSEE Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=Qzpb7r8aFSsHwfFh821wjQAAJ1A9mk8a0luj1TJO2sh3zRLgAAYAAADNAAAYQAA=
KR> tri gear and taildragger
Who on the Net has flown both, and what is the difference
