Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Mechtilde wrote: I don't know anything about automatically inserted accelerations. I confirm we have an algorithm that assigns accelerators automatically when they are not specified. The only drawback is that this way they won't be stable if new menu items are introduced, meaning that adding a new menu item could cause old accelerators to change. This is a minor problem though, as in most cases one relies on the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL-O, CTRL-S and so on) which are still stable, and not on a sequence of accelerators. In general, I think we can avoid accelerators in translations and rely on the automatic assignment. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Mechtilde (2020-02-16 17:25): Hello Aivaras, thanks for your translation work. I don't know anything about automatically inserted accelerations. I've remembered an example. This didn't contain an accelerator: Locations: optgdlg.src#OFA_TP_LANGUAGES.CB_ASIANSUPPORT.checkbox.text It was "Pokaż elementy interfac'u użytkownika dla języków wschodnioazjatyckich" Yet in GUI "P" was/is underlined. See e.g. bottom of this screen: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=86828 Cheers, Nux.
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Agreed. In fact, the question is whether we need accelerator keys at all in the text of a pre-build translation if they get inserted automatically at a later stage anyway. The text would be much cleaner without the tilde (breaking words, impeding spell-checking, and making search more difficult). Regards, Aivaras 2020-02-16 23:40, Maciej Jaros rašė: Aivaras Stepukonis (2020-02-16 17:17): The LT translation does not contain the accelerator mark-up (~). As a result, Pootle throws 3 250 errors. I was told years ago it's not a problem since accelerators are automatically inserted during the building of the program from its source code. That it is actually not a problem is further attested by the fact that the LT installation does contain all the accelerators. My question is this: should I do anything about the critical errors in Pootle or should I just ignore them? I think this is a bug in new Pootle. I mean that missing accelerators shouldn't be marked as critical errors. From what I've seen Polish translation doesn't contain accelerator in many cases yet GUI is showing an underline. So I would rather have the accelerator shown only as a warning in Pootle. IMHO in most cases adding accelerators is a waste of time (as I would have to review all translations to add a unique accel and accels in anything but main menu doesn't really make sense -- there is just no way you can remember them). Cheers, Maciej Nux Jaros. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Aivaras Stepukonis (2020-02-16 17:17): The LT translation does not contain the accelerator mark-up (~). As a result, Pootle throws 3 250 errors. I was told years ago it's not a problem since accelerators are automatically inserted during the building of the program from its source code. That it is actually not a problem is further attested by the fact that the LT installation does contain all the accelerators. My question is this: should I do anything about the critical errors in Pootle or should I just ignore them? I think this is a bug in new Pootle. I mean that missing accelerators shouldn't be marked as critical errors. From what I've seen Polish translation doesn't contain accelerator in many cases yet GUI is showing an underline. So I would rather have the accelerator shown only as a warning in Pootle. IMHO in most cases adding accelerators is a waste of time (as I would have to review all translations to add a unique accel and accels in anything but main menu doesn't really make sense -- there is just no way you can remember them). Cheers, Maciej Nux Jaros. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Hi Aivaras, Am 16.02.20 um 17:34 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: > Mechtilde, thank you for your work, too! > > I'm on Windows. Matthias, when are you planning to do the next batch > of builds for Windows? After the lt translation is committed. Monday evening would be perfect for me to start. Upload would then be on Tuesday. Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > > Aivaras > > 2020-02-16 18:25, Mechtilde rašė: >> Hello Aivaras, >> >> thanks for your translation work. >> >> I don't know anything about automatically inserted accelerations. >> >> We can do a test build. Matthias on Windows and/or me on Linux. Then you >> can test it. >> >> and the you can see which letter should get the Acceleration. Each >> letter should be only once used as an accelerator in on part of a menu. >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Am 16.02.20 um 17:17 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: >>> The LT translation does not contain the accelerator mark-up (~). As a >>> result, Pootle throws 3 250 errors. I was told years ago it's not a >>> problem since accelerators are automatically inserted during the >>> building of the program from its source code. That it is actually not a >>> problem is further attested by the fact that the LT installation does >>> contain all the accelerators. My question is this: should I do anything >>> about the critical errors in Pootle or should I just ignore them? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Aivaras >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Mechtilde, thank you for your work, too! I'm on Windows. Matthias, when are you planning to do the next batch of builds for Windows? Regards, Aivaras 2020-02-16 18:25, Mechtilde rašė: Hello Aivaras, thanks for your translation work. I don't know anything about automatically inserted accelerations. We can do a test build. Matthias on Windows and/or me on Linux. Then you can test it. and the you can see which letter should get the Acceleration. Each letter should be only once used as an accelerator in on part of a menu. Kind regards Am 16.02.20 um 17:17 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: The LT translation does not contain the accelerator mark-up (~). As a result, Pootle throws 3 250 errors. I was told years ago it's not a problem since accelerators are automatically inserted during the building of the program from its source code. That it is actually not a problem is further attested by the fact that the LT installation does contain all the accelerators. My question is this: should I do anything about the critical errors in Pootle or should I just ignore them? Regards, Aivaras - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pootle – Fix critical errors – Accelerators – Please, add Accelerator
Hello Aivaras, thanks for your translation work. I don't know anything about automatically inserted accelerations. We can do a test build. Matthias on Windows and/or me on Linux. Then you can test it. and the you can see which letter should get the Acceleration. Each letter should be only once used as an accelerator in on part of a menu. Kind regards Am 16.02.20 um 17:17 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis: > The LT translation does not contain the accelerator mark-up (~). As a > result, Pootle throws 3 250 errors. I was told years ago it's not a > problem since accelerators are automatically inserted during the > building of the program from its source code. That it is actually not a > problem is further attested by the fact that the LT installation does > contain all the accelerators. My question is this: should I do anything > about the critical errors in Pootle or should I just ignore them? > > Regards, > > Aivaras > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
