Re: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Thelacebee
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 On second thought, after seeing the pictures on the Kleinhout site, I think 
 it might be possible to use a rigid, satin-covered headband.
 
 Avital

Avital,

The horseshoe is only about 1.5 mm high off the pillow at it's highest - this 
gives enough clearance off the pillow.

Regards

Liz Beecher
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Re: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 02/10/2003 21:30:53 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I also learned about and used the clear vinyl at a class in Ithaca last
 year.  It was wonderful because I was working with colored linen thread and
 could really see the flower taking shape.  But, for those of us who are
 rather sight impaired and insist on making lace, I couldn't see the clear
 and pinned right on through it.  You would think I would notice that the
 vinyl wasn't pricked -- Oh well.
 
 At IOLI I have just bought the horseshoe thingie and love it   Haven't put a
 pin through it yet!
 
 Diane Z
 Lubec, Maine

I have previously used acetate (or clear vinyl - but I personally use OHP 
sheets) and used it very successfully on my honiton pillow because you can cut it 
to size and bend it on the pillow but the advantage of this on honiton is 
that you rarely move around the pillow.

The pattern on my blog is one that takes up the entirity of my 24 pillow and 
moves really quickly - so it posed the problem of having to keep undoing and 
moving the acetate.

The horseshoe was the very last thing that I bought at the NEC last year, and 
infact, only bought it because the nice lady on the stand suddenly, when I 
had bought my last bits from her, rummaged around under the stand brought it out 
and asked me if I knew what it was.  I had no idea but as soon as she told me 
what it was and how much I bought it.  Now I wish I'd bought 2!!

Regards

Liz Beecher
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[lace] Polish Tatter

2003-10-03 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
What beautiful work he does.  Thanks for the site address, so we could have
a look.   I especially liked the part of the mat shown at the top of the
home page.
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Substitute silk for linen

2003-10-03 Thread Fadenfee
Hello to everybody,

a friend of mine has a problem and we hope you can help.

She wants to make a collar designed by Ulrike Loehr (shown in the book 
Kloeppelkurs). In this book the used thread is Linen 50/3, 60/3, 35/2, 40/2 or 
Silk 40/3. But - which silk is 40/3? My friend already asked Faden und Brief by 
M. Wolter-Kampmann, but she didn't find a clear answer.

Did anybody of you make this collar in silk and which thread did you use?

Best wishes from cold Achim, Germany, where autumn has come,

Christiane
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[lace] Bruges lace shop

2003-10-03 Thread Annette Gill
Now that I live in England, 't Apostelientje in Brugge is on my must
stop list for going back and forth to the continent!

Do you have any further details about the shop?

I remember going to Bruges about 25 years ago and seeing some lacemakers,
but I wasn't really interested in lacemaking then.  Now that I am, I'd
like to hop on the Eurostar one weekend and look at lace museums and lace
shops in Bruges.  Can anyone suggest where I could get further details
about lace museums and shops there?

Regards,
Annette, London


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[lace] Re: Bruges lace shop

2003-10-03 Thread LaceSpinner
Annette:

't Apostelientje's address is Balstraat 11, which is just around the corner from the 
Kantcentrum on Peperstraat 3A (http://www.kantcentrum.com/).

Claeys' Antique (http://www.claeysantique.com/) is a shop located in the southern part 
of the city on Katelijnestraat 54, specializing in lace for collectors.  Most of the 
lace shops in Bruges do have antique lace, but with the majority you really have to 
get into it and make them open up the drawers and show you the good stuff, rather 
than the modern items which are 99% worked in asia.  I prefer to look for study 
fragments of laces I am interested in learning at 't Apostelientje, Claeys' and 
suchlike where I know the proprieter is a lace enthusiast like myself!

Lacefairy's website has some listings for Bruges and Belgium.  
(http://lace.lacefairy.com/International/Belgiummap.html) 

Orchidee, which is the other well-known shop for lace and needlework supplies in 
Brugge, is located at Mariastraat 18, which is just up the street from the Gruuthuse 
Hof -- an excellent small bistro.  It sits just opposite the Gruuthuse museum, which 
has a beautiful collection of lace.

If you drive to Bruges, a good parking garage is Biekorf, located near the market 
center under the library (hint: the library has restrooms).  We're taking a coach 
trip, so no driving but have to meet the coach at 1:30 a.m. tomorrow!

Of course do not forget to buy chocolate.  The Belgians make the very best, you know 
 :-D

I will have to see if 't Apostelientje has the horseshoe thingie.

Korwyn in Norfolk UK

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 Now that I live in England, 't Apostelientje in Brugge is on my must
 stop list for going back and forth to the continent!
 
 Do you have any further details about the shop?
 
 I remember going to Bruges about 25 years ago and seeing some lacemakers,
 but I wasn't really interested in lacemaking then.  Now that I am, I'd
 like to hop on the Eurostar one weekend and look at lace museums and lace
 shops in Bruges.  Can anyone suggest where I could get further details
 about lace museums and shops there?
 
 Regards,
 Annette, London

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[lace] Re: numbers

2003-10-03 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Lorelei, Devon and all others,
In our country I didn't know a lace-material-vendor-shop who has regular
opening times. They come to the meetings everywhere in the country, they
send by post and if you are nearby and call them you can go there and shop.
There are shops who sell our things but under other things like wool,
patchwork utilities and so on.
What belongs the number of members, the 4 500 aren't alone Germans. We have
also family membership and lots os foreign members like Netherlands,
English, US-American and so on. And also in our country there are people who
do lacemaking without any membership somewhere.
Greetings
Ilske from Hamburg who hope that the wether will be like today the whole
next week.

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[lace] a note from the Professor

2003-10-03 Thread Tess1929
As you all know, I have been posting the address for the Professor's site to 
all lacemakers as  
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html
This is still correct, but when I sent him a copy of the article which just 
came out in OIDFA, he wrote me the following:

Tess: 

One thing I worry about is directing folks to lace.html.   They may never
know there is more to the Web site and things of interest elsewhere (like
nb complete issues and the current monthly page).

Better would be to direct persons to weavedocs.html for an overview of
the site and to lace.html for lace-specific documents.

 Ralph

p.s.   Remember there is nothing special about lace.html.   It is one of
60 or 70 topical pages.   For example, there is a page for embroidery
also.

What he means about NB is that he is in the midst of scanning all the copies 
of the Needle and Bobbin Club Bulletins from years and years back--a 
momentous job!--and he wants everyone to know that he has lots and lots of other stuff 
on his site.   So take a look when you have hours to spend.

By the way, if anyone has any copies of the NB that they might be able to 
lend for scanning, or that they might be willing to scan for us, please contact 
me.   He is missing quite a few issues, and I can look on the list and see if 
he needs yours.

Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[lace] Re: Wedding Garters

2003-10-03 Thread Jeff Lee Daly
Joan,

Clay wrote:

I discovered a really pretty Bucks Garter pattern in Bridget
Cook's Introduction to Bobbin Lace Patterns.  It's on page
61, and is made all of a piece - with hearts on the
scalloped sides and a flower insertion in the middle.
After you make the lace, you attach it to ribbon, then run
elastic through the middle.
I also thought the garter Clay mentions was lovely, too. I started it 
for my first DIL. I had about 1 1/2 years to make the garter and a 
wedding hankie while working full time.  I gave up and made a much 
quicker garter, so if time is not an issue it is an interesting project. 
She did get a beautiful hankie though. (See the back cover of Ecken, by 
Ermute Wesenberg.) The other son was getting married 9 months later so 
there was no time then either. I finally decided to use it for 
demonstrations.

I was using some gold gimp in the hearts and it is beautiful, but will 
never be finished.
Lee

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RE: [lace] Re: Men making Lace

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What a sensible man Iain Biggins must be!  Good on Him, I say!
Iain is not the only one.. Kenn Van Dieren (our own g) has also
learnt

And don't forget that we have male Arachneans!  Some may be strictly bobbin
people, but others are lacemakers.

Robin P.
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http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The pattern on my blog is one that takes up the entirity of my 24 pillow
and 
moves really quickly - so it posed the problem of having to keep undoing and

moving the acetate.

That's another advantage of the vinyl circle over cover cloths or sheets of
acetate that are pinned down.  The circle sits loose, and it naturally moves
with the progression of the lace.  You don't have to unpin and re-position
it as you work.

Robin P.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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Re: [lace] Wedding Garters

2003-10-03 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 10/3/03 8:35:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 I had about 1 1/2 years to make the garter and a 
 wedding hankie while working full time.  I gave up and made a much 
 quicker garter, so if time is not an issue it is an interesting project. 
 She did get a beautiful hankie though. (See the back cover of Ecken, by 
 Ermute Wesenberg.) The other son was getting married 9 months later so 
 there was no time then either. 
--
Thiis is a note to over-worked lacemakers (everyone?!)

I know a lacemaker who started to make wedding laces for her granddaughters 
when the little girls were in kindergarten.   This seems like a good idea - you 
will not feel like there is a sword positioned above your when you have time 
on your side.

As for the future wives of boys, the same plan could be put into effect.  
There will always be a use for the laces, even if not for a daughter-in-law.

If the girls do not marry, you can still make something wonderful for them 
from the laces on, say, a 30th birthday.  Have the laces ready to assemble into 
a garter, but be prepared to make a pretty boudoir pillow with the laces if 
the young woman does not marry.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] IOLI/Teachers

2003-10-03 Thread WebbRP54
Does anyone know if the IOLI homepage has changed their URL.  I haven't been 
able to get there all week. Also, is there a site that lists available 
teachers by area?  


Thanks,
SueW
Morrisonville, NY 12962

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Re: [lace] Re: Men making Lace

2003-10-03 Thread Kenn Van-Dieren
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Iain is not the only one.. Kenn Van Dieren (our own g) has also
learnt

Tamara is right.  I do think of my self as a lacemaker as well as a
bobbinmaker.  Shortly after I began to turn bobbins I noticed that some
tended to unravel the thread in use.  In order to quantify the problem I
took all sorts of measurements and discovered that .1 (yes, ten
thousandth of an inch) could make a difference. Rather then measuring each
one and attempting that type of consistency for hand made items, it was
easier to just use it on a pillow for a bit before selling it.  Sort of a
test drive.

But that meant that I needed a pillow make lace on.  Plus, since I was
making a tool, I should know how the tool was used. Holly Van Sciver was my
first teacher in 1997.  And I know that while I frustrated the heck out of
her, she always helped me with a smile.  ( I think the smile did get bigger
when she could say take that part out and redo it correctly though. grin

Since then I have gone on by myself and last year (first time I entered) I
won 3rd place for Original Design at the IOLI lace contest and received my
certificate from the Canadian Lace Gazette for the 5-metre Club (also an
original design).  This year I won 2nd place in Technical Proficiency at the
IOLI lace contest.

Now while that sounds great, you must understand that I won 2nd place in a
contest with two entries.  Think about it.  There seems to be some room here
for competition.  And there are a lot of lacers out there better then me.
So get to it and compete.  After all, your competition is a guy with big
hands and a tendency towards the Torchon Tug. grin  I break 120 thread
just winding the bobbins.

I have also started a new 5-metre club entry (you can do more then one) and
the project this time is to be 6 wide.  That makes 32 panels 6 wide and 4
deep with a 2 continuous border at the bottom.  I am on panel 3 right now
and have 172 hours into so far (including all the retro-lace) so about 18
are done.  You can view the patterns at www.bobbinmaker.com/5-metre.html
You can also click onto the concept ideas for it and the note diary from
there.

***
Kenn Van-Dieren
Bobbins by Van-Dieren
2304 Clifford Avenue
Rochester, NY 14609-3825
Tel: 585.654.5711
Cell: 585.750.8842
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: www.bobbinmaker.com
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Re: [lace] IOLI/Teachers

2003-10-03 Thread Clay Blackwell
I was told that the server for the site is being moved, so
the site is temporarily down.

Clay




 Does anyone know if the IOLI homepage has changed their
URL.  I haven't been
 able to get there all week. Also, is there a site that
lists available
 teachers by area?


 Thanks,
 SueW
 Morrisonville, NY 12962

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[lace] Hobbycraft/lacemaking kits

2003-10-03 Thread Jean Nathan
I was in Hobbycraft this afternoon (went to get a polystyrene head), and i
the section of the storeI was in, one of the assistants was putting House of
Crafts kits on the shelves, including their lacemaking kit, which I've said
before consists of a polystyrene roller which fits into a cut-out in the box
it comes in and a few plastic bobbins and beads. (Take a breath.)

I commented to the lady putting them out, that they'd put more pople off
than they'd encourage to make lace. Her reply was that they were only
intended for children up to about the age of about 14. When I said that it
didn't matter what age they were intended for if it put them off, she
suggested I talked to their head office and persuaded them to stock 'proper'
lacemaking equipment. I told her they'd already tried it, and had had a
member of staff who was a lacemaker to choose the correct equipment to sell,
but as they were charging about three times the price of other suppliers,
they hadn't sold much and had finally reduced the stock to get rid of it.
She said she remembered the lady in question and agreed that some of the
stuff in the store was overpriced, but said that individual stores had no
control over what was stocked and how it was priced, so there wasn't much
she could do and got on with stacking the shelves.

I was surprised that the head was cheaper than anywhere I'd found so far at
5 pounds 49 pence - used ones are selling on ebay in excess of 10 pounds.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 03/10/2003 14:50:22 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That's another advantage of the vinyl circle over cover cloths or sheets of
 acetate that are pinned down.  The circle sits loose, and it naturally moves
 with the progression of the lace.  You don't have to unpin and re-position
 it as you work.
 
 Robin P.

I only put two pins in the horseshoe and did that by finding where the pins 
were meant to be for the patter (there are more holes), I'm off to the lace 
group tomorrow and will try it without the holding pins.

Updates when I have it.

Regards

Liz Beecher
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Re: [lace] Wedding Garters

2003-10-03 Thread Joan Wilson
With 3 grandaughters, the oldest being 15 yrs. I thought I might have time
to make a garter for each of themVBG
Joan


Jeri wrote

 --
 Thiis is a note to over-worked lacemakers (everyone?!)

 I know a lacemaker who started to make wedding laces for her
granddaughters
 when the little girls were in kindergarten.   This seems like a good
idea - you
 will not feel like there is a sword positioned above your when you have
time
 on your side.

 As for the future wives of boys, the same plan could be put into effect.
 There will always be a use for the laces, even if not for a
daughter-in-law.

 If the girls do not marry, you can still make something wonderful for them
 from the laces on, say, a 30th birthday.  Have the laces ready to assemble
into
 a garter, but be prepared to make a pretty boudoir pillow with the laces
if
 the young woman does not marry.

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Hookies

2003-10-03 Thread Judy
Dear Lacers,

I have never made note of the information regarding 'hookies' before because I
hadn't needed it, I do now.Can some kind soul please send me the info on
the vendors who carry them and possibly the size.  Someone has just called me
looking for a 'spindle' to use with wire.  She says it is something she
learned from a lady from Malta but she doesn't describe it as lace.  Will keep
you posted.

Many thanks for the information.

Judy Aycock
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RE: [lace] Hookies

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
1.  Lenka Suchanek makes/sells bobbins for use with wire.  They are the size
of travel bobbins (e.g., a good bit shorter than average) with a metal eye
screwed into the tip.  I haven't used them, so can't comment on them.
However, they are designed specifically for wire.  The others, I believe,
were designed for rayon and metallic threads.

2.  There's a C-shaped all-wood hookie, sold by Biggins.  I know I've seen
them elsewhere, but not sure where (maybe Holly Van Sciver?).  Personally, I
don't like these.  The bobbin is normal, except instead of a thistle head
there's this large wood C on top--all one piece of wood, mind you, but the
top is carved, not turned.  The gap in the C is big enough that they don't
hold the thread as well as some of the others, and also big enough that they
grab their neighbors' threads more easily than others.  At least for me.

3.  The other all-wood hookie I know of is from Beggar's Lace.  I got a
couple, many years ago, and haven't ordered anything from her so I don't
have a recent catalogue.  These are nice.  The hook is a very deep groove
parallel to the two sides of the shaft.  Because it's so deep, they hold
their own thread very well.  And because the point of the hook doesn't stick
out much, they don't grab their neighbors as much as the C style.

4.  I use ones from The Lacemaker.  These have a turned/decorative base,
with a very heavy wire for the shaft and hook.  The wire is about as thick
as (and as stiff as) coathanger wire, but is brass-color.  The hook is
arched over, like a U, so the point is parallel to the shaft but not as deep
nor as narrow a cleft as type 3.  They can be a bit grabby--all hookies
are--but no more so than #3.  And the bases are decorative, which I consider
a plus.  

I don't remember the prices on 1-3, but #4 are USD8 each.  I think the
others aren't any cheaper, because so much of the work is off-lathe carving.

just my not-so-humble opinions,
Robin P.
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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From: Judy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 have never made note of the information regarding 'hookies' before because
I
hadn't needed it, I do now.Can some kind soul please send me the info on
the vendors who carry them and possibly the size.  

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[lace] Re: Substitute Silk for Linen

2003-10-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:42 PM, Christiane wrote:

She wants to make a collar designed by Ulrike Loehr (shown in the book
Kloeppelkurs). In this book the used thread is Linen 50/3, 60/3, 35/2, 
40/2 or
Silk 40/3. But - which silk is 40/3?

First of all you have to decide which Linen 50/3, 60/3, 35/2, 40/2 or Silk 
40/3
I'd guess it's probably Bockens as that does come in all those sizes.
The wraps/cm for those linens are:  21, 23, 20 and 23.

Only two readily available silks in size 40/3:
Pipers Twisted Gloss (filament) 40/3 - 19 wraps/cm
Gutermann spun silk 40/3 (R753) - 20 wraps/cm
Being German in origin the Gutermann is more likely to be the substitute, 
it's also matte rather than shiny.

Brenda

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[lace] Re: Men making Lace

2003-10-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Friday, Oct 3, 2003, at 13:10 US/Eastern, Kenn Van-Dieren wrote:

This year I won 2nd place in Technical Proficiency at the IOLI lace 
contest.

Now while that sounds great, you must understand that I won 2nd place 
in a
contest with two entries.  Think about it.  There seems to be some 
room here
for competition.  And there are a lot of lacers out there better then 
me.
So get to it and compete.
Not in Technical Proficiency, I won't g  My *ideas* are, mostly, OK; 
my technical proficiency... dead skunk in the middle of the road 
comes to mind... :) Every time I submit something, I hope the judges 
will overlook the technical bloops and oops in favour of looking at 
the project as a whole...

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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace] Re: Philly Lace Exhibit

2003-10-03 Thread Tina Allen Wright 3rd
Just a reminder about the Liberty Lacers lace exhibit at the Plastic Club at
247 S. Camac St. in Philadelphia, PA from October 5th - 24th.

The opening reception will be this Sunday, October 5th from 2:00 - 5:00 and
the
hours that it can be viewed are Wednesdays 9:30 - 12:30, Thursdays 10:00 -
2:00  6:30 - 9:30 and Saturdays 1:00 - 4:00.

The exhibit can also be seen by appointment by contacting Betty MacDonald at
610-664-1997.

For further information please contact either Betty or myself.

Thanks,


Tina Allen

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[lace] Yippee! g

2003-10-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders (and other friends),

Some time ago, Avital set up community webshots albums to give us all a 
chance to show of our work. I tried that, and chased myself up a tree ( 
like the 'puter-illiterate monkey that I am). Then my puter-geek son 
came to visit (about 3 weeks ago) and I asked his help. He looked at my 
options there, at the free web space my provider offers (for 
non-business ventures), and decided I'd be best off using *his* domain; 
I'd have no limit on space, and I could leave the stuff there 
forever... Sounded good to me :)

So he set it all up, gave me one lesson on uploading, I took notes, and 
he took himself off back to California. I had the keyboard incident 
the day he left, which meant I had to postpone experimenting on my own 
till it was replaced. Once the new keyboard was in place, I tried 
uploading, and chased myself up a tree again; my notes weren't detailed 
enough. Yelps for help to DS went unanswered...

Today, I thought I'd give the notes another try. Pay more attention to 
what I saw in the windows which appeared in response to every action, 
and add comments to the notes. Then, *success*; I was flabbergasted g

At any rate, here are some of my earlier designs (URL in the 
signature). Mostly, it's the stuff that can also be seen at the Fiore 
e tombolo website, but a couple of pieces are new. Eventually, I'll 
add new links to the two existing ones, but not in the next 2-4 weeks; 
they need a lot of forethought, since they cannot be edited -- only 
removed and replaced.

What you get, when you click on a link, is a page of thumbnails. I 
don't know how long they'll take to load up -- I have broadband, so 
time's not an issue -- I tried to make them big enough to see what's 
what, but small enough not to be a burden. The thumbnails have titles 
only; click on the thumbnail, and a bigger picture shows up, with the 
title and relevant info (size, thread used, publication date and venue).

If you can't reach the page, don't bother letting me know -- *I can't 
fix it*. If you reach the page and find typos or other mistakes in the 
links -- ditto. Unless it bugs you absolutely beyond bearing (can't see 
why it should; it's not your page and embarassment g)... In that 
case, do let me know, and I'll try removing, correcting and replacing 
the offending link.

Smugly yours,
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Re: Polish tatter

2003-10-03 Thread Diane Williams
This man has wonderful work!  I would buy his book in
a heartbeat, as long as the patterns are diagrammed
and not in Polish!

Diane Williams
Galena, Illinois USA
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And, speaking of men making lace... Susan McLeod
(another Arachnean) 
sent me the following website of a Polish tatter:

http://www.frywolitka.slupsk.pl/?id=o_mnie



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Re: [lace] Yippee! g

2003-10-03 Thread Carole Lassak
Tamara--

Awesome display of your work!! I especially liked Partridge in a Pear Tree.
And, you did a great job getting all these pix uploaded!

Carole Carole
Dublin, OH USA
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[lace] Tamara's Designs

2003-10-03 Thread Pamela Thompson
Tamara
 
Your lace is beautiful. The snowflakes are so varied in design. Thanks for sharing.
 
Pam


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[lace-chat] Re: Firewalls

2003-10-03 Thread Annette Gill
The firewall that comes with XP is fairly basic, so I'd get another one if
you can.  I use Zone Alarm ( from www.zonelabs.com )- the version I use is
free, although you can buy Zone Alarm Pro which has more features.  The
free version seems to work well.

I don't know about Norton's firewall (I only use their anti-virus
software), but it may offer more than the free version of Zone Alarm.

If your firewall keeps notifying you of Trojans, then it suggests that
your PC may be under attack and you do need a firewall.  If the Norton
programs keep disabling, it may be a problem with the way they've been
configured, in which case Norton technical support should be able to help
you.  Or it might mean that some kind of virus is disabling them - again,
Norton tech support ought to be able to help you with this.

Regards,
Annette, London



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Re: [lace-chat] Gervase Phynn

2003-10-03 Thread Barron
Dora said

Two years ago Mr. Phynn came to Melton Mowbray's library to give a talk. He
really had us in stitches and of course I had to buy his books, which are
just as funny but hearing him talk is just so much better.

If you prefer to hear him talk try the audio books - I love listening to
audio books when I am lacing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141803630/qid=1065173361/sr=1-6/re
f=sr_1_3_6/026-1144937-8254034

jenny barron
Scotland

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[lace-chat] Horseshoe shaped thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Anne Nicholas
Hi,
I bought a horseshoe shaped thingie from Tim Parker at a lace day a couple
of weeks ago. I have yet to use it but hope to do so this weekend !!

Anne Nicholas in
 Hanworth,
Middx.
England


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I will have to see if 't Apostelientje has the horseshoe thingie.

Korwyn in Norfolk UK

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Understanding Engineers

2003-10-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
This one has made the rounds before -- even on chat. But, hopefully, 
long enough ago to raise a chuckle now.

From: R.P.
part 1
Two engineering students were walking across campus when one said, 
Where
did you get such a great bike?
The second engineer replied, Well, I was walking along yesterday 
minding my
own business when beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the 
bike
to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, Take what you want.
The second engineer nodded approvingly, Good choice; the clothes 
probably
wouldn't have fit you.

part 2
To the optimist, the glass is half full.
To the pessimist, the glass is half empty.
To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
part 3
What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers?
Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.
part 4
Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers
believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
part 5
An architect, an artist and an engineer were discussing whether it was
better to have a wife or a lover. The architect said he enjoyed time 
with
his wife, building a solid foundation for an enduring relationship. The
artist said he enjoyed time with his lover, because of the passion and
mystery he found there. The engineer said, I like both.
Both?
Engineer: Yeah. If you have a wife and a lover, they will each assume 
you
are spending time with the other woman, and you can go to the office 
and get
some work done.

part 6
An engineer was walking one day when a frog called out to him and said, 
If
you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess.
He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.
The frog spoke up again and said, If you kiss me and turn me back into 
a
beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week.
The engineer took it out, smiled at it and returned it to the pocket.
The frog then cried out, If you kiss me and turn me back into a 
princess,
I'll stay with you and do ANYTHING you want.
Again he took it out, smiled at it and put it back into his pocket.
Finally, the frog asked, What is the matter? I've told you I'm a 
beautiful
princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything you want. 
Why
won't you kiss me?
The engineer said, Look I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a
girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool.

part 7
A pastor, a doctor and an engineer were waiting one morning for a
particularly slow group of golfers. The engineer fumed, What's with 
these
guys? We must have been waiting for 15 minutes! The doctor chimed in, 
I
don't know, but I've never seen such ineptitude! The pastor said, Hey,
here comes the greens keeper. Let's have a word with him. [dramatic 
pause]
Hi George, say, what's with that group ahead of us? They're rather 
slow,
aren't they?
The greens keeper replied, Oh, yes, that's a group of blind 
fire-fighters.
They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last year, so we
always let them play for free anytime. The group was silent for a 
moment.
The pastor said, That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for
them tonight. The doctor said, Good idea. And I'm going to contact my
ophthalmologist buddy and see if there's anything he can do for them.
The engineer said, Why can't these guys play at night?

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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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