[lace] Starching lace on pillow

2004-07-19 Thread Jean Nathan
The only time I starched anything was a Bruges bookmark, so it was fairly
easy to lift.

Even though the pricking was covered with blue plastic film, I reasoned the
starch would seep through the holes around the pins and on to the pillow. So
I eased the lace and pricking up the pins a bit, lifted the whole lot off
and pinned it down again on an old cork floor tile. Then I sprayed it with
starch/stiffener and took the pins out wen it was dry.

I then washed the pins in fairly hot detergent before using them again.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Starching lace on pillow

2004-07-19 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
Hello
Thanks for telling me how you starch the lace. On an styrofoam pillow I
never mind if I starch but I will use your info about lifting a piece from a
straw pillow to a piece of styrofoam if I have to starch anything I make on
the straw pillow.
Ann-Marie

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Re: [lace] lace on Czech folk costumes

2004-07-19 Thread Karen Bovard
I had an opposite experience lately with Czech costumes.   I live in
Nebraska and there are several small towns that celebrate the Czech culture
in weekend festivals.   I was just to one such festival a month ago
(Clarkson, NE) and was disappointed by the lack of lace that I saw.   I made
a special attempt to watch the 'queen' contest where girls from around the
state were competing for the state Czech heritage queen crown.  I saw very
little handmade lace on the costumes...though they were lavishly decorated
with storebought embroidery.  There were two vendors there that had imported
Czech items (mainly glassware and garnet jewelry) that I asked about lace.
I was directed to a big  bin of machine made embroidered eyelet 'lace'...not
what I was looking for.

Karen Bovard
The ShuttleSmith
Omaha,  NE

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RE: [lace] Straw bugs

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found little mites walking around on the pillow, but I lifted the
removable outer cover, and sprayed it with fly/bug spray,and that fixed
them for a while.  Every time I saw and I repeated the dose, and I have not
seem them for quite a few years, now!!

If someone doesn't want to add poisons to their pillows (and has the room),
there is an alternative--freezing.  Wrap the pillow in plastic (so you don't
get it damp from condensation when you remove it) and put it into the
freezer.  In a household freezer, leave it at least a week, preferably two.
Then let it defrost, but keep it wrapped.  After 3-4 days at room
temperature, re-freeze.  

Freezing only kills the adults, not eggs, so this allows any eggs in the
straw to hatch.  The second freezing should kill anybody that hatched during
the few days at room temperature.  Just to be sure, freeze it a third time
in case there were eggs that hadn't hatched yet.  Don't wait too long
between freezings, or you'll have eggs hatching and mites maturing and
breeding (laying more eggs); you'll have to freeze it again.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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[lace] RE: pillows

2004-07-19 Thread Mary Robi
Greetings!

I decided to reply to the pillow survey. I'm new, so I don't have much of a 
collection going.

16 cookie pillow
roller pillow
Next month I'm taking a class to make a travel pillow that has a square in 
the center which can be replaced by a roller.

That's it! I'm going to convention in Denver next summer, and I'm sure 
there's a large cookie pillow waiting for me to purchase. The 16 one is 
just too small.

Mary

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Re: [lace] Starching Pins

2004-07-19 Thread Alice Howell
At 12:29 AM 7/19/2004, you wrote:
I then washed the pins in fairly hot detergent before using them again.
Very thrifty.  However, I don't want to take the time, so I have an 
envelope that is labeled 'Starch Pins', and they are saved to be used again 
and again only for starching.

Alice in Oregon --Who needs to do starching today to a couple projects so 
one can be a gift on Wednesday.  Can't delay any longer.

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RE: [lace] Straw bugs

2004-07-19 Thread Karen
We used to have a major problem with pscosids where we used to live, which
thrived in the mild damp coastal climate.  Moving inland, solved the problem
on the whole, as I no longer see them in the books we own.

I managed to solve the problem in my lace pillow well before we moved
though.  Essential oil of rosemary sprinkled on my straw pillow was
effective, and smelled pleasant.  Once I had treated it, I don't remember
seeing any of those crawlies there.

Karen
In Coventry

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[lace] RE: lifting patterns

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You mentioned using a cookie pillow.  Some of us have come to the
conclusion that if your cookie pillow has a fairly high dome instead of
being relatively flat, this causes more lifting of the lace.  

I find more trouble with patterns lifting on a totally-flat pillow than on a
mildly-domed one, so I'd say both extremes (high dome or completely flat)
can be a problem.  Usually, angling the edge pins outward solves the problem
for me.  Sometimes I have to push the edge pins all the way down to keep the
lace against the pillow.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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RE: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
Ethafoam, ...is not quiet!! 

I have found builder's foam (the kind of polystyrene with tiny bubbles in
it) to be noisy, but have never heard anything when pinning into true
ethafoam (polyethylene).

just my humble opinion,
Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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Re: [lace] lace on Czech folk costumes

2004-07-19 Thread nerakmacd
That reminds me.  There is a Renaisance festival not far from here, and I
keep meaning to go, wondering if they have any lace there.  It's supposed to
be around Henry the VIII's time when there was much lace worn, and there are
apparently a lot of booths with crafters.  It's purported to be like a fair
of old time.

Actually, my brother and sister in law are planning to come this weekend,
maybe that's something we can take them to and I can finally find out about
the lace question there.

http://www.renaissancefestival.com/viewEvent.asp?eventID=222

Karen
Ontario, Canada



 I had an opposite experience lately with Czech costumes.   I live in
 Nebraska and there are several small towns that celebrate the Czech
culture
 in weekend festivals.   I was just to one such festival a month ago
 (Clarkson, NE) and was disappointed by the lack of lace that I saw.   I
made
 a special attempt to watch the 'queen' contest where girls from around the
 state were competing for the state Czech heritage queen crown.  I saw very
 little handmade lace on the costumes...though they were lavishly decorated
 with storebought embroidery.  There were two vendors there that had
imported
 Czech items (mainly glassware and garnet jewelry) that I asked about lace.
 I was directed to a big  bin of machine made embroidered eyelet
'lace'...not
 what I was looking for.

 Karen Bovard
 The ShuttleSmith
 Omaha,  NE

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[no subject]

2004-07-19 Thread Laura Oppedisano
Dear Spiders,
Thank you to all who have written to me about the wire lace brooch.  I now see
CLEARLY what has to be done.  On to another matter:  I have a Lace friend who
will be traveling to Russia in August and I was wondering if there were any
places or stores or collectives she might be able to buy the wonderful Russian
Tape lace items we see at lace Days.  She will be visiting Moscow and St.
Petersburg.  She will also be in Tallinn in Antonia.
Any information about these places would be greatly appreciated.  I was
singing the praises of the list to her and now I want to show her your wealth
of knowledge in many things.
Thank you all again about the wire lace question.  I begin tonight.
Yours in lace and life,
Laura in SUNNY, for the moment, New Jersey

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[lace] Judiciary jabots

2004-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, dears, I have nine willing jabotmakers! I need one or two more as
backups just in case. Please apply!

I will also need somebody with a flair for P.R. And somebody else with an
imaginative organizing mind. I can write a presentation letter, if need be,
although it would be nice to get somebody better than me (anyway, I will be
busybusybusy making a jabot!). Please respond!

I have designs and patterns to go, and as soon as we have discussed and
agreed on what we would like, we are then all set (and see next paragraph).

I will be in the hospital the whole of the last week of July, having my knee
replaced, but should be back home and functioning from the waist up, anyway,
beginning August 1. Please let me hear from you! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aurelia  

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RE: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: nerakmacd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm wondering which pillows you prefer, and why.  I know that the ethafoam
can become worn easier after much use with the pins.  Is it the same with
the straw, or does the straw tend to 'regroup' better after being used over
and over with the pins.

My first pillow was made from an old McCall's Needlework magazine, with felt
roller and lightly-padded cardboard apron.  

The next was made during a class, a travel-size roller pillow.  The base is
wood, the roller is rug padding wrapped around a dowel (with a layer of wool
blanketing), and the apron is fabric-covered, stuffed very densely with
polyester batting (I believe that's wadding, in England).

Then I made 3 cookie pillows.  The first (24) had a wood base and was
stuffed with polyester batting, but not densely enough.  It sagged in the
middle, and some pins have trouble penetrating densely-packed batting, so I
don't recommend it.

The second cookie (16) was stuffed with circles of rug padding, each bigger
than the one below (yes, below--an inverted pyramid, so the topmost layer
was continuous, bent down over the others), with wool blanketing over the
padding.  This is an excellent, inexpensive, easy home-made pillow.

The third cookie (12) was stuffed with wood grit.  This is bits of wood,
coarser than sawdust but finer than anything else.  Well-stuffed, it makes a
great pinning surface but it was heavier than the 16 one!  And I got the
stuff when they were getting rid of it at work--I have no idea where one
would get more.

I then made a bigger roller pillow, the base just like the travel one only
larger.  The roller is again rug padding and blanketing.  I stuffed the
apron with wood grit--bad move!  Much too heavy.

Then I started buying pillows.  I have foam blocks (feels more like
builder's polystyrene foam than polyethylene foam), a seagrass cookie, a
small straw bolster, and a Simone Toustou (don't know what it's stuffed
with, but it never smelled like seagrass or straw).  Some people have blocks
made from industrial-grade felt (1 thick).  I bought some felt but haven't
covered the pieces or made a frame for them.

I wouldn't say foam or straw are one better than the other.  Foam is too
light by itself, it needs a wood base to make the pillow sit still.  I don't
like it for Midlands bobbins because they lay flat on the flat surface and
are hard to grab, but Continentals have a narrow waist that sits above the
flat surface and so are easier to grab.  Straw and seagrass are *much* too
much work to make pillows from, IMO, so I didn't have those till I'd
graduated to buying pillows.  But that was home-made vs. store-bought, not
beginner vs. experienced.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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[lace] Learning Needlelace

2004-07-19 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  I haven't seen any answers to Linda's question about 
learning NL.  That was in her e-mail about etui's.  That's also
the word I use for needle cases.  Anyway, I've heard the book
that is suggested for learning Needlelace is Starting Needle-
point Lace: A Course for Beginners by Valerie Grimwood,
published by Batsford, ISBN 0-7134-5806-2.  I got my copy
from www.abebooks.com   

NL has been on my to learn list for years.  Actually just the
cordonet really because the stitches are the same as those
I use in Battenberg lace.  I've had the books but never took
the time.  Happily I took a class in it last year in Ithaca, NY.
I'm in love with it now G.  I've taught myself a lot of crafts
and I could probably have learned it on my own but it is so
much easier with a teacher!!   Since you're in the UK I'd 
think you'd have many more options than we do in the US.
And it was wonderful to have a teacher for the filling stitches
too.  It's invaluable to have real samples to touch and a person
to ask about them!

We do have a wealth of knowledgeable NLers on arachne too 
so you can ask all your questions!

Jane in Vermont, USA getting excited about going to the IOLI
Convention in two weeks!
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Re: [lace] Lace Pillow Survey

2004-07-19 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 7/18/2004 6:39:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Shirely, do you have trouble with dust coming from the sawdust pillow?? 
Somebody here had one, and commented on that feature of hers...she resorted to
vacumning it between uses, then discovered after a while that she was 
vacumning
the filling out of her pillow!!!
A local teacher here used to distribute instructions for making a lace pillow 
that began with a visit to a saw mill to collect saw dust. In recent years 
someone, in obedience to these instructions, visited a saw mill and was told 
that they don't separate the saw dust that comes from treated wood for decks, for 
instance, from that that comes from untreated wood. The treatment to the wood 
makes the saw dust cancer causing. They recommended she go to some place that 
only cut exotic woods for wood craftsmen where there would not be any treated 
wood sawdust. More things to worry about!

Devon 

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Re: [lace] IOLI convention (was Learning Needlelace)

2004-07-19 Thread Mary L. Tod
Jane writes:
Jane in Vermont, USA getting excited about going to the IOLI
Convention in two weeks!
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Have any plans been made for an Arachne gathering at IOLI convention 
this year? It was great to put some faces to the names last time. 
I'll be there the entire time, so any date should work for me.

--
Mary, in Baltimore, MD
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[lace] Sawdust

2004-07-19 Thread Jean Nathan
Devon wrote:

The treatment to the wood
makes the saw dust cancer causing. They recommended she go to some place
that
only cut exotic woods for wood craftsmen where there would not be any
treated
wood sawdust. More things to worry about!

I know it's not free, but its clean - I buy sawdust intended for small pet
bedding to fill my pin cushions.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 19/07/2004 22:25:14 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My first pillow was made from an old McCall's Needlework magazine, with 
 felt
 roller and lightly-padded cardboard apron.  
 

Do you actually mean it was made from the magazine?  Or made from directions 
in the magazine!  

I grew up with these magazines as a touch of American exotic in 1950's 
England.  How I envied the girl's bedrooms with all themed furnishings - so very 
different from post war Britain, the dolls houses and the unusual soft toys and 
all the gadgets and materials we couldn't get.  One of my best presents ever 
was a daisy winder sent from Canada (probably by my brother when he first 
emigrated or maybe my aunt before that) as I was able to some of the things I'd been 
reading about for years.   

The ones I have are the later ones when they went to a small size, the ones I 
first remember were a lot bigger.  But I don't remember ever seeing lace of 
any sort in them apart from Battenburg-ish, crochet and knitting - not even 
tatting, I think.

Mum probably still has some of these early magazines in her workroom (polite 
name for a store room as with only about 2 sq ft of floor uncovered it's a bit 
hard to do any work in there, Malvary knows exactly what I mean).  And her 
remaining two or three lace pillows (Malvary and I keep borrowing them) are on 
the top shelf to the right of the door, just above the fabrics, some dating 
back to when we lived in Herne Bay pre 1961.   Oh what fun we'll have one day! 

Jacquie

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[lace] My own Secret Pal thank you

2004-07-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
A couple of weeks ago a former Secret pal of mine (who sent to me) 
emailed to say that she had made a successful bid on Ebay for a small 
tablecloth - and because it was on my side of the Atlantic she had 
arranged for it to be sent to me!

It arrived a couple of days ago - a bit crumpled and in need of very 
minor repairs, but I've hand washed and ironed it and have put some 
pictures onto my website to share with everyone.  No links to or from 
the rest of the site, but do have a look at:
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/tablecloth/tablecloth.html

Thank you Alice
Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace] Freezing Pillows

2004-07-19 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Unfortunately, my freezer won't take the 24inch diameter cookie pillow!!!

As to the starch staining the pillow - Don't you people use a removeable
cover on your pillows?
I was told, right at the beginning (In 1978) when I made my first pillow, to
have a removeable cover on it, so it could be laundered when necessary.  On
the 24diameter pillow, I bought a yard of headcloth in a dark colour, cut
around the corners, to make it into a circle, and sewed a tape around it to
make a casing.  I then put some elastic in the casing to draw it up fairly
small, but so it would stretch just enough to get it on the pillow.  The
elastic part sits underneath the pillow, and the centre of the fabric lays
smoothly over the top, to work on.  The original layer/s of fabric that are
made onto the pillow stays clean, and the top layer can easily be removed
for laundering.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Convention

2004-07-19 Thread adelem . ward
Hi all,
I will be at Convention in Harrisburg and would like to meet with other 
Arachne people. Last year I missed the meeting because I did not know 
about it. Anyone organizing it? I will be there July 31 and leaving 
Aug. 8.
Adele Ward
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Re: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Malvary Cole
Jacquie wrote: And her remaining two or three lace pillows (Malvary and I keep
borrowing them) are on the top shelf to the right of the door, just above the 
fabrics,
some dating back to when we lived in Herne Bay pre 1961.   Oh what fun we'll have one
day

Mum did a lot of dressmaking for Ann Ladbury (older English Arachians might have heard
of her) and got lots of fabric at bargain prices - problem is many of them are 1960's
polyesters in 1960's colours!  When I was home in April I was given a LOVELY piece of
green with flowers to make a nightdress (that's hard to say with your tongue in your
cheek).  I think it would be a little warm for a nightie especially in our Ottawa
summers.  Mum also let me have a few scraps of material to dress my bear to take to the
Lace Convention.  There was much discussion as to whether I could have all three 
pieces,
because she thought she might need one of them for something.  (The bear is about 5
tall so you can imagine how small the pieces of fabric were!)

When mum was in hospital a few years ago Jacquie and I did sort out a few bits and
pieces - I acquired a couple of reels of cotton thread and a table cloth with an
ironed-on transfer all ready to embroider.  Not sure what Jacquie took.  Not a lot, but
a start on the big sort out that we will have to do one day.

I will be there again in September, so perhaps I'll be given something else, and I'll
probably be borrowing a lace pillow for the time I'm there as I'll be going to class
with Jacquie a couple of times and attending mum's lace group's meeting (it is the day
before her 90th birthday and they are hoping she will attend).

Jacquie - did you remember to measure mum's travelling pillow to see if my roller will
fit it?

Malvary in Ottawa where a storm was rumbling around the region all evening, but missed
my house.

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Re: [lace] Lace Pillow Survey

2004-07-19 Thread TwoHappyBees
In a message dated 07/19/2004 5:35:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

.saw dust that comes from treated wood for decks, for 
 instance, from that that comes from untreated wood. The treatment to the 
wood 
 makes the saw dust cancer causing 

Hello all, 

If the wood referenced in Devon's message above is the so-called 
pressure-treated (usually pine) wood used in decks, picnic tables, etc., the problem 
is 
arsenic.  I don't know about cancer, but it is certainly a poison and you 
wouldn't want to use sawdust from such wood.  Simon Toustou's lovely pillows (I 
have both a cookie  a roller pillow of his) are filled with sawdust I am told, 
and are covered in velvet.  I have never seen any evidence of dust emanating 
from either of them.  I suspect he uses the sawdust he generates himself and 
his pieces are usually of cherry, walnut, oak, etc.  I wonderhas anyone else 
who owns his pillows had any dusty experiences?  

Vicki in Maryland where we are experiencing our usual hazy, hot  humid 
summer days with possible showers promised nearly every day (and our poor lawn 
wishes they would happen!) 

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Re: [lace] Pillow survey

2004-07-19 Thread TwoHappyBees
In a message dated 07/18/2004 7:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know what Simon Tousteou sp stuffs his pillows with?  If he 
is going to convention this year I hope someone will let him know that many of 
us are not arriving for the first three days. 

Sorry JanetI'm reading messages out of order and just saw your earlier 
one above.
As mentioned in my other message, I understand Simon Toustou's pillows are 
sawdust filled. As for catching up with him at convention, if you or anyone else 
are seriously interested in a pillow from him, I would advise calling him by 
phone and having him reserve one for you. (You could also confirm if he is 
coming and which days he plans to be therehe has been known to go home before 
the last day I believe.)  I can tell you his pillows go fast.  If you call 
ahead, you can tell him the size, style, velvet color, and wood choice you 
prefer and have a better chance of getting exactly what you want.  (The wood choice 
has to do with the pillows which have drawers built into the bottom which 
curve with the shape of the pillowreally nice for tools, etc.)  Of course, he 
also makes lovely tables in several styles and in various woods, tooas 
well as bobbins, tools, etc.  I got mine by calling ahead before an Ithaca lace 
day a few years ago and they were there waiting for me.  Also, thank goodness 
we had driven and could carry it all back in the car.  If flying, bring an 
empty suitcase or two!  g   

No connectionjust a satisfied customer,
Vicki in Maryland 

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[lace] exotic wood

2004-07-19 Thread John OConnor
Just a little 'beware' notice.

Re: Devon wrote :  They recommended she go to some place
that
only cut exotic woods for wood craftsmen where there would not be any
treated
wood sawdust. 

I would not recommend doing exotic wood sawdust either. Many a woodworker
has found out that exotic woods can cause many allergies or illnesses. My
son, the Intarsia guy, has found at least 2 exotic woods that make him
break out all over and another that causes lung congestion. 

I would do what Jean does - go to the pet store and buy that sawdust for
pets. I don't have pets and never bought any so I can't say whether it is
sterilized prior to selling or not. That might be something to look into.

Jane O'Connor
New Lenox, IL
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Take time to laugh, it is the music of the soul

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[lace] Learning Needlelace

2004-07-19 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I replied to Linda privately.

I am happy to help with NL where I can.  (Gros Point, and Reticella are the
types of NL that I do the most, but I enjoy working Point de Gaze etc, too.)

I also suggested the Val Grimwood book for starters,and the Catherine
Barley book for later on.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace-chat] Kangaroos

2004-07-19 Thread David Collyer
Dear Jean,
I know that biologically kangaroos are four-legged creatures, but what's the
meat like? We can get it here, and I assume it's red meat.
It's beautiful, but definitely very red! Still it may well suit you. You 
won't really know until you try it. I just love it stewed or curried and 
simmered for hours. But then again it's also great when you just chuck the 
whole gutted kangaroo into the fire fur and all and let it roast away. It's 
better to do this yourself, as the Aborigines I've camped with tend to get 
a little impatient and it can still be bleeding a lot :)
Love
David in Ballarat


Jean in Poole
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[lace-chat] :-) Kid's instructions on life

2004-07-19 Thread Jean Nathan
- Never trust a dog to watch your food.   
  Patrick, Age 10   

- When you want something expensive, ask your grandparents.   
  Matthew, Age 12   

- Wear a hat when feeding seagulls.   
  Rocky, Age 9   
   
- Sleep in your clothes so you'll be dressed in the morning.   
  Stephanie, Age 8   
   
- Never try to hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk.   
  Rosemary, Age 7   
   
- Don't flush the john when your dad is in the shower.   
  Lamar, Age 10   
   
- Never bug a pregnant mom.   
  Nicholas, Age 11   
   
- Don't ever be too full for dessert.   
  Kelly, Age 10   
   
- When your dad is mad and asks you, Do I look stupid?   
  don't answer him.   
  Heather, Age 16   
   
- Never tell your mom her diet's not working.   
  Michael, Age 14   
   
- When you get a bad grade in school, show it to your   
  mom when she's on the phone.   
  Alyesha, Age 13   

- Never try to baptize a cat.   
  Laura, Age 13   

- Never spit when on a roller coaster.   
  Scott, Age 11   

- Never do pranks at a police station.   
  Sam, Age 10   

- Never tell your little brother that you're not going to do   
  what your mom told you to do.   
  Hank, Age 12   

- Remember you're never too old to hold your father's hand.   
  Molly, Age 11   

- Listen to your brain. It has lots of information.   
  Chelsey, Age 7   

- Never dare your little brother to paint the family car.   
  Phillip, Age 13   
   
- Forget the cake, go for the icing.   
  Cynthia, Age 8   

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Secret pals

2004-07-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
To all those participating in the Secret Pal Exchanges
By now hopefully all the July packages have been received, but there 
are still a few acknowledgment messages  still outstanding.  I will be 
going away at the weekend for two weeks and it would be nice to know 
that the July exchanges are complete.  If you haven't received anything 
yet please contact me ASAP.  I *may* have access to my emails whilst 
I'm away but it won't be on a regular basis.

I regret to say that I have had reports of a couple of packages which 
have smelled of cigarette smoke.  I appreciate that smokers sometimes 
don't always realise just how easily the smell permeates porous 
materials such as paper and textiles, and to some people it can be very 
unpleasant, so please, if you are a smoker, or live in a smoking 
household, do try to minimise this by keeping items wrapped in plastic 
and if possible send sooner rather than later.

Enjoy planning for the August exchanges.
Brenda Paternoster in Kent England
Arachne Secret pal administrator
www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace-chat] Kangaroos

2004-07-19 Thread W N Lafferty
As David says, kangaroo meat is a red meat - very dark and red.
But very, very lean, and rather tough.  Simmered a long while 
sounds right.  I don't think  you'd want a steak of it unless it had
been marinated thoroughly in something to tenderise it.

A recipe I've seen just for kangaroo tail soup says to marinate
the meat for two days before you start cooking!
The Kangaro Industry Association says you can only cook
steaks to medium rare at the most, any more and it drys out
too much and is too tough.
www.kangaroo-industry.asn.au

I don't fancy the meat much myself - it's used a lot in pet food here, and
my cat just loves it!

Noelene in Cooma
Our snow falls are over, there is just a little left on the ground
in protected pockets.   But it's sooo cold!
I hope spiders will excuse our (Oz that is) talk about the weather,
but the drought is of constant worry to us here, with many on
tight water restrictions and dams at all time lows.
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Re: [lace-chat]Weather

2004-07-19 Thread Alice Howell
At 04:06 PM 7/19/2004, you wrote:
I hope spiders will excuse our (Oz that is) talk about the weather,
but the drought is of constant worry to us here, with many on
tight water restrictions and dams at all time lows.

We understand.  Oregon has had low rainfall for several years.  Everything 
is very dry.  Fire danger is high.  Fire fighters are worried because, in 
the past, we relied on the National Guard to supply labor to fight 
fires.  Many of the Oregon Guard are in Iraq this summer, and not 
available.  If fires start, they may just end up burning until fall rains 
come.  That happened a year or two ago with one fire.  If it happens, I 
just hope no towns are in the way.

Alice in Oregon -- still recovering after 6 days at the fairgrounds and 42 
hours of demo. (Though I admit to taking some breaks.) 

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