Re: [lace] Workshop poem

2004-09-30 Thread Jill T
Babrara
thanks very much for the poem and link to the Archive.
Much appreciated
Jill
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[lace] Sandi Woods Book

2004-09-30 Thread Miriam
Hi Jean,
I got the new catalogue from Batsford and  the book was mentioned in at at 
a discount of 3 pounds.

However I did get my copy from SMP (just a satisfied customer) and it 
arried yesterday. If todays printers would have still used ink I would say 
that Batsford skimps on the amount of ink they used for printing. The print 
is very light (bright), I can't find the right word for it. It does strain 
the eyes a bit. The working diagrams are a bit small to follow. I don't 
know how they will be enlarged. I got already a few nice ideas of how to 
use the patterns. Otherwise it is a lovely book but just leafing through it 
isn't a book report.

Miriam
in a very hot Arad,
Israel
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Re: [lace] Sandi Woods Book

2004-09-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
I found this to be true of another book I bought this
summer!  Astrid Hansen's new book, Femten Bredere:
Tonderkniplinger also has diagrams that have very lightly
drawn lines in bright colors...  IOW, hard to read (and hard
to reproduce as well, I would imagine.
This particular book just sold on eBay for $88 !!  Since
it's a current book, and sells for 33 Euro, I can't imagine
why anyone would spend that much on it!!

I'm suspecting that publishers are trying to make it harder
for people to copy from a friend's book (or a library
book...), but for those of us who own our books and don't
like to break the spine while we use the diagram, making
copies is the best way to do it.  And that is perfectly
legal, but now it's probably going to be more difficult.

Clay

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Subject: [lace] Sandi Woods Book


 Hi Jean,

 I got the new catalogue from Batsford and  the book was
mentioned in at at
 a discount of 3 pounds.

 However I did get my copy from SMP (just a satisfied
customer) and it
 arried yesterday. If todays printers would have still used
ink I would say
 that Batsford skimps on the amount of ink they used for
printing. The print
 is very light (bright), I can't find the right word for
it. It does strain
 the eyes a bit. The working diagrams are a bit small to
follow. I don't
 know how they will be enlarged. I got already a few nice
ideas of how to
 use the patterns. Otherwise it is a lovely book but just
leafing through it
 isn't a book report.

 Miriam
 in a very hot Arad,
 Israel

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[lace] Sandi Woods Book

2004-09-30 Thread Jill . P . Harward
Hi,

I bought Sandi's book from SMP lace at a lace fair early Sept and it is 
wonderful - particularly the ideas on how to mix and match the shapes to 
make a totally different design.  In my copy, I found it strange that the 
instruction pages at the back had one page with diagrams in blue ink and 
the next page is black and alternated like this all the way through. 
Throughout the book I noticed this in places too.

Do you think this was intentional or a 'printer's error ?

Best wishes
Jill
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I found this to be true of another book I bought this
summer!  Astrid Hansen's new book, Femten Bredere:
Tonderkniplinger also has diagrams that have very lightly
drawn lines in bright colors...  IOW, hard to read (and hard
to reproduce as well, I would imagine.
This particular book just sold on eBay for $88 !!  Since
it's a current book, and sells for 33 Euro, I can't imagine
why anyone would spend that much on it!!

I'm suspecting that publishers are trying to make it harder
for people to copy from a friend's book (or a library
book...), but for those of us who own our books and don't
like to break the spine while we use the diagram, making
copies is the best way to do it.  And that is perfectly
legal, but now it's probably going to be more difficult.

Clay

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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: [lace] Sandi Woods Book


 Hi Jean,

 I got the new catalogue from Batsford and  the book was
mentioned in at at
 a discount of 3 pounds.

 However I did get my copy from SMP (just a satisfied
customer) and it
 arried yesterday. If todays printers would have still used
ink I would say
 that Batsford skimps on the amount of ink they used for
printing. The print
 is very light (bright), I can't find the right word for
it. It does strain
 the eyes a bit. The working diagrams are a bit small to
follow. I don't
 know how they will be enlarged. I got already a few nice
ideas of how to
 use the patterns. Otherwise it is a lovely book but just
leafing through it
 isn't a book report.

 Miriam
 in a very hot Arad,
 Israel

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[lace] Re: Jugendstil lace..

2004-09-30 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Robin,
Thank you for clearing the terms. So it is more logical. But people I 
spoke with and still articles I read about Jugendstil, Art Deco and so 
on had always only one word and this was confusing for me. Because,  
how to wrote, after the floral style the geometric came.
Yesterday I mentioned floral designs which aren't from Dagobert Peche. 
He made more figural designs but also floral ones and sometimes a bit 
like fairy tales but in a new way.  Some works of him remember on the 
lace pictures of  Elena Holeczyová. But  how astonishing, it' s the 
same time and they had a bit the same studies.He was a all round talent 
he made fashion products, designs for textiles, he decorated the room 
fitting for a fashion show. After coming back from Zurich he had made 
designs for furnitures, tapestry, embroidery, lace shortly said 
everything.
I was astonished myself about the text under the article and found out 
that they are wrong. I am sorry for that and you can believe me that I 
looked several times before I wrote. This designs are from Johann 
Hrdlicka who worked for the K.K.Zentralspitzen Kurs in Vienna at the 
time of Jugenstil. He, his wife Mathilde and some others, f. e. 
Franziska Hofmanninger, Fritz Letniansky, are as important as Peche for 
that period.
Hope i didn't wrote to much about this theme but I persoaly like it.
Greetings

Ilske
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[lace] Sandi Woods book

2004-09-30 Thread Jean Nathan
As soon as I came across it on Amazon (and before I posted to Arachne) I
ordered my copy from Amazon at 30% off together with a set of six injet
cartridges for our photoprinter, each GBP2.50 less than I can buy through
Staples or PCWorld, and there's no postage to pay - and it's on DH's credit
card :-D

Jean in Poole

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[lace] International Arts and Crafts Exhibition at V A

2004-09-30 Thread Jean Peach
As there has been a discussion about Art Nouveau, Art Deco and the Arts and
Crafts.
 I thought there might be some who would be interested in the exhibition
being held at
 the V  A next year

International Arts and Crafts
17 March - 24 July 2005
It says on their web site that the Arts and Crafts Movement was arguably one
of the
most far reaching and influential design movements of modern times.

here is their web site
http://www.vam.ac.uk/exhibitions/future exhibits/artscrafts/index.html

There is a write up on the site about the exhibitions, yes there will be
textiles, not
what they are though.


Jean

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Re: [lace] Re: Jugendstil lace..

2004-09-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Some of Joanne Hrdlicka's designs (for lace) are/were published by The 
Lace Guild, Designs for Modern Lace; A facsimile of Entwurge fur 
moderne Spitzen first pub. 1902.  Is the book still available?  IMO 
it's one of the best lace design sources around.  They are not 
'patterns' as such with pinholes marked etc but drawn designs which can 
be interpreted into a variety of lace techniques, but they are all Art 
Nouveau/Jugendstil.

On 30 Sep 2004, at 15:20, Ilske und Peter Thomsen wrote:
This designs are from Johann Hrdlicka who worked for the 
K.K.Zentralspitzen Kurs in Vienna at the time of Jugenstil. He, his 
wife Mathilde and some others, f. e. Franziska Hofmanninger, Fritz 
Letniansky, are as important as Peche for that period.
Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace] Lace Museum Christmas exhibit

2004-09-30 Thread Paula Harten
Just a slight correction to Elaine's message - The Holiday exhibit at 
The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale, CA will , hopefully, be up by Nov. 9, so 
you can get inspired and  find  ornaments in plenty of time to send as 
Christmas gifts.  The 2004 edition of Ele Schwartz's tatted ornaments 
will be available.

Paula Harten
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Re: [lace] Femten Bredere: Tonderkniplinger

2004-09-30 Thread palmhaven
I bought the book and Clay is right you can't copy the diagrams.  I am
however going to copy the prickings onto something besides RED  and they
picked a garrish red at that.  I think they need to pick a color more kinder
and gentler to the eye.  Besides prickings wear out.

Sylvia Andrews


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 Clay,

 I saw that book on eBay! $88! Wow!

 Can you tell me--is the text in English? And from whom can it be ordered?

 Thanks,

 Barbara

  I found this to be true of another book I bought this
  summer!  Astrid Hansen's new book, Femten Bredere:
  Tonderkniplinger also has diagrams that have very lightly
  drawn lines in bright colors...  IOW, hard to read (and hard
  to reproduce as well, I would imagine.
  This particular book just sold on eBay for $88 !!  Since
  it's a current book, and sells for 33 Euro, I can't imagine
  why anyone would spend that much on it!!
 
  I'm suspecting that publishers are trying to make it harder
  for people to copy from a friend's book (or a library
  book...), but for those of us who own our books and don't
  like to break the spine while we use the diagram, making
  copies is the best way to do it.  And that is perfectly
  legal, but now it's probably going to be more difficult.
 
  Clay

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Re: [lace] Jugendstil laces (Austria-Spitz)

2004-09-30 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 9/29/04 8:22:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 And how wide! It's all in the number of twists. I am absolutely
 fascinated with this lace, especially the edgings. The 'guipure' styles,
 with many bobbins - I'd like to try those too.
 
 I was just looking through my copy quickly as I thought there was
 reference to Dagobert Peche, and an illustration - did not see it right
 away (another book, perhaps, or I will need to look more carefully).
 
 
 bye for now
 Bev in Sooke BC (west coast of Canada)
 

Dear Bev and others interested,

There is a photo of a bobbin lace designed by Dagobert Peche in the 
Austria-Spitz book I reviewed on Arachne on August 31st.  It is on page 32.  On the 
next page, there is (in English) a short write-up about Peche which gives the 
locations of a very limited number of laces designed by Peche.

Leopoldine Winkler's bibliography in this book contains 15 entries, which 
could lead to other important information.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Coloured prickings

2004-09-30 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
My printer or rather Microsoft Photo editor works that way too. Scan the
pattern first and save it and take it up in your photo program.Just use the
tranparancy tool and you get a white backgruond. You may have to use it
several times but that is OK if I just get rid of the awful colored
backgrounds. I am sure other programs can do this too.

Ann-Marie, Sweden
http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1
http://www.ettklickforskogen.se/


 One of my students, in conjunction with an on-the-ball photocopy-shop man,
 found out that she could have her black on orange pricking (which she
didn't
 like) copied onto white by the simple expedient of him turning off the
 background colour in a colour photocopy machine ie it only picked up the
black.  She
 was then able to cover this with her preferred choice of blue film.
 I am now trying to work out if I can do this on my home (and more basic)
 colour photocopier, but if I can I haven't been able to work it out yet.

 If my explanation is clear enough, and your copy shop can understand you,
 this might be an option for dealing with the bright RED pricking in
 Tonderkniplinger.

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RE: [lace] Coloured prickings

2004-09-30 Thread Andrea Lamble
Another way around this problem is to scan the pricking with a desktop 
scanner and then change the background colour to white in Photoshop or 
similar program. You can then print out the pricking in black and white.

Happy lacing
Andrea
in a rather damp Cambridge.

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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:39:08 EDT
One of my students, in conjunction with an on-the-ball photocopy-shop man,
found out that she could have her black on orange pricking (which she 
didn't
like) copied onto white by the simple expedient of him turning off the
background colour in a colour photocopy machine ie it only picked up the 
black.  She
was then able to cover this with her preferred choice of blue film.
I am now trying to work out if I can do this on my home (and more basic)
colour photocopier, but if I can I haven't been able to work it out yet.

If my explanation is clear enough, and your copy shop can understand you,
this might be an option for dealing with the bright RED pricking in
Tonderkniplinger.
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Re: [lace] Coloured prickings

2004-09-30 Thread Clay Blackwell
Actually, the bright RED is the background of the pictures
of finished lace only.  The DIAGRAMS are printed on white in
really bright (and not easy on the eyes...) colors.  The
prickings are black on white, but very faint.

Clay

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 One of my students, in conjunction with an on-the-ball
photocopy-shop man,
 found out that she could have her black on orange pricking
(which she didn't
 like) copied onto white by the simple expedient of him
turning off the
 background colour in a colour photocopy machine ie it
only picked up the black.  She
 was then able to cover this with her preferred choice of
blue film.
 I am now trying to work out if I can do this on my home
(and more basic)
 colour photocopier, but if I can I haven't been able to
work it out yet.

 If my explanation is clear enough, and your copy shop can
understand you,
 this might be an option for dealing with the bright RED
pricking in
 Tonderkniplinger.

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thankyou

2004-09-30 Thread Barrie Julie Todd
Dear Secret Pal,

Thankyou so much for yet another lovely parcel. The Avon products will be much
enjoyed indeed.   I look forward to sampling the Bath Caviar while I nibble
away on the mints and catch-up on my letter writing  :-) .  Thankyou also for
the bobbins, I shall put them to good use.

Kindest Regards
Julie.

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal

2004-09-30 Thread Joan Whitfield
Dear Secret Pal
Apologies for the late thank-you.  I did send one but seem to have done
something wrong and it hasn't appeared.  My daughter has claimed the
gloves - something I've never used but she does, but I refused to part with
the bath pillow.  You couldn't have thought of anything better as my doctor
has just advised long hot baths instead of my usual showers as an aid to
pain relief.  And I especially love the little duck, and the story.  Thank
you very much for the things in my white parcel.
Joan from Yorkshire

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Prayers

2004-09-30 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
I have a feeling I've seen this one before, though it must have been 
quite a while ago; the feeling isn't all that strong. The two prayers 
confirm my belief that, while men may rule the church, it's the women 
who sustain it; a sound bite can be delivered anywhere, but a full 
exposition requires a roof over one's head, in case the weather 
conditions change before the prayer's over :)

From: C.B.2
 FEMALE PRAYER:
Before I lay me down to sleep,
I pray for a man, who's not a creep,
One who's handsome, smart and strong,
One who loves to listen long,
One who thinks before he speaks,
One who'll call, not wait for weeks.
I pray he's gainfully employed,
When I spend his cash, won't be annoyed.
Pulls out my chair and opens my door,
Massages my back and begs to do more.
Send me a man who'll make love to my mind,
Knows what to answer to How big is my behind?
I pray that this man will love me to no end,
And always be my very best friend.
Amen.
MALE PRAYER:
I pray for a deaf-mute nymphomaniac with huge
boobs who owns a liquor store and a bass boat.
Amen.
---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Late night political

2004-09-30 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Sadly, one of the last jokes from this particular source, once I get 
rid of the backlog; as of today, she'll have no puter access for an 
indefinite period... This one ought to have gone out yesterday (I 
received it yesterday), before the debate, but...

From: R.P.
Both candidates now are trying to lower expectations for how they'll 
do on
the debates. For example, Kerry tried to lower expectations for himself 
by
saying Bush has never lost a debate and that he is a formidable 
opponent.
Then Bush lowered expectations for himself when he said, 'Hey, what does
formable mean?' --Jay Leno

Well, the first Kerry-Bush debate between President Bush and John Kerry
takes place Thursday in Miami. And today, thousands of local residents 
began
evacuating. --David Letterman

The ground rules for the debates: The candidates must remain at least 
10
feet apart, and they cannot talk directly to one another. It's actually
based on the John Kerry-Teresa Heinz Kerry pre-nup agreement. --David
Letterman

The two sides have been going through all sorts of (debate) 
negotiations.
Supposedly there's a perspiration clause, which requires the room to be 
kept
at a certain temperature to prevent sweating. The Bush team wants the
president to be far enough away from Kerry that people won't see how 
much
shorter he is.  Also on the height issue, the Bush people want a podium
small enough that he doesn't appear short, but still big enough that 
Dick
Cheney can hide inside it. --Jimmy Kimmel

Teresa Heinz Kerry predicted at a fund-raiser the other day that Osama 
bin
Laden will be captured just before the election. Of course when 
President
Bush heard he was furious. He said, 'How did she find out?' --Jay Leno

California lawmakers just approved tough new anti-pollution 
legislation. If
it goes through, California would have the toughest emissions standards 
in
the country. Ironically, our governor owns five Hummers and chain smokes
cigars. He's the pollutiest governor ever - the man is doing everything 
but
burning tires on his front lawn, and he's passing this legislation. He 
also
came out strongly against steroids, foreign accents, and frequent use of
movie catch phrases. --Jimmy Kimmel

---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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