[lace] Book
Dear Tamara, I received my copy of your 2 pairs book via Noelene, thank you very much it is a wonderful production and I can't wait to get started on some of the designs. A very professional book congratulation and thank you. Regards Faye Owers Shearwater Tasmania Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Pillow storage (wreath boxes)
Janet, what a neat idea! I have this nasty tendency to stack my pillows as they are difficult to store, (especially nasty when they have lace on them). I'm not sure if air-tight would be good or bad, but it sure would be nice to be able to stack them neatly, and keep them free of dust. Any US spiders seen anything like Canadian Tire's containers here? April in Shoreline WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers fair and currency
On Sunday, November 28, 2004, at 09:29 PM, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: I do remember some Germans having problems similiar to yours at *some* (but not all) machines in the Tonder area in Denmark. The trouble with Portugal was that all the bank machines were supplied/owned by the same company. So it didn't matter which bank I went to or which city I was in, they all rejected my card. Since then I haven't been prepared to risk trying to vacation for 3 weeks on C$350, which was all the cash I had with me. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lacemakers fair and currency
On Nov 28, 2004, at 18:21, Margot Walker wrote: Perhaps I should move this to Chat, but since we're talking about getting money to spend at lace fairs Also, we have no idea if the original poster gets Chat; many people do not. My bank account allows me to buy travellers' cheques at no charge. Mine doesn't, an hour's drive will take me to Roanoke, where I can get free travelers cheques from AAA. The round trip takes less than a third of a tank of gas, so it's still less than my bank is likely to charge. But the pain doesn't stop there... :) AAA offers cheques in a limited range of currencies; I can get them in British sterling (for a fee), but not in Polish zloty, so I get them in US dollars (free). Then I land in Poland, and have to find a *bank* which will exchange them - all the little (and plentiful) currency exchange "stations" won't touch travelers cheques with a barge pole. "Bankers hours" have become a part of the English language for a good reason, and they're as scant in Poland as anywhere else :) Then, to compensate for the short working week, they charge me a fee for the exchange, on top of giving me the worst possible exchange rate... Ah, bah! 1999 was the last time I took them with me; in 2001 I got me a "check-card"; ATMs never sleep ... I've not had a *single* problem with it, either in '01 (Denmark and Poland) or this year (Poland and the Czech Republic), and I used machines all over the place. Perhaps American check-cards are better than the Canadian ones; I do remember some Germans having problems similiar to yours at *some* (but not all) machines in the Tonder area in Denmark. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: pricking
On Nov 28, 2004, at 4:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liz Beecher) wrote: I also couldn't find a glue that I liked to stick the pattern to the card then film over - everything I tried just didn't seem to dry out enough I had "issues" with "wet" glue from the very beginning... If I put it on the pricking (thin paper), it distorted the sheet. If I put it on the cardboard, I was never able to position the pricking "just so"... I was never happier than when I discovered the re-positionable (like that used for Post-its) dry glue. No stretching of the pricking, no detectable extra layer and, if I plunk it in a wrong place, I lift it and re-position. Must say though, that I'm only that happy with the Scotch brand (no, I have no shares in the business ); the Avery repositionable dry glue stick (the only other one I was able to find here) just didn't seem to the job as well. [...] one lady that I taught to make lace hated winding the bobbins, pricking out the pattern and finishing off the lace. Me too, on all 3 counts :) But, oh, the exquisite pleasure and relaxation of moving the bobbins around, and the mental stimulation of figuring out the puzzles, and watching something grow on your pillow, and the suspense of waiting till you can pull out a few pins to see how it's coming along... Can't beat it :) IMO, lacemaking is like marriage, or life in general: you take the "thin" with the "thick", ignore the "thin" as much as you're able, and enjoy the "thick"... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers fair and currency
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > You will receive a booklet at the >door in return for your entry fee and it will have a list of vendors and >usually >a map with location. The catalogue isn't included in the entry fee - hasn't been for years! If you book your tickets in advance, you get a money off voucher for it, which I think this year puts it down to a pound instead of two, but you need to buy the catalogue separately to the door ticket. Usually Jennifer's son has a stand immediately inside the doors selling them. It does at least give you contact details for all of the suppliers, in case you miss any of them! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers fair and currency
On Sunday, November 28, 2004, at 06:38 PM, Janice Blair wrote: I alway use my bank card when travelling for getting cash. Perhaps I should move this to Chat, but since we're talking about getting money to spend at lace fairs, I never use my bank card when travelling for getting cash. In 1999, I spent 3 weeks in Portugal, and for the first time, decided to depend on my bank card instead of bringing travellers' cheques. Not one machine in Portugal would accept the card, even though my Canadian bank said that it was accepted there and even though it worked in Spain, France, and Britain. Apparently, the card had a hidden expiry date and the machines would not accept it. When I got home, I got a new card (Bank of Montreal) and the hidden expiry date on that one was even earlier than the one that I'd had previously. I now deal with another Bank of Nova Scotia and their card too has the same problem. Most bank machines see that you have the money in your account and ignore the expiry date. Not the Portuguese machines in 1999. I could cry when I think of all the Portuguese lace, ceramics and tiles that I could have bought if I'd brought travellers' cheques. On top of that, when you use a bank machine, there's usually a charge. My bank account allows me to buy travellers' cheques at no charge. So, since 1999, I carry my bank card abroad for emergency use only. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers fair and currency
I alway use my bank card when travelling for getting cash. There is usually one at the airport even if you have to search a bit for it. If there is a vendor that you particularly want to buy from check if they have a web site and whether they take credit cards. I know on my first visit to the NEC I quickly ran out of cash but that was yearsa ago and I think more vendors are taking plastic than before. Have a lovely time and be prepared to push your way through the hoards of lacemakers who are looking for the bargains. You will receive a booklet at the door in return for your entry fee and it will have a list of vendors and usually a map with location. Take a few minutes to study it before entering the frey that way you can get to the tables you want rather than being waylaid by all the enticing goodies near the door. Plus I bet the tables near the door get the crowds so if the one you want is in the back of the hall race over there first then take your time to walk around to see what everyone else has. Wear comfortable shoes as the floor is hard but there are places around the edge to sit and contemplate your goodies. have fun, wish I was coming. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Re: Misting
I've moved this from 'chat' as it is relevant to lace: On Nov 28, 2004, at 2:07 am, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: The last but one rinse often included "blueing" (to, perversely, whiten things out ), and I have no idea what went into that. Ground up lapis lazuli - or at least that's what English blue-bags were supposed to contain. Lapis lazuli is a semi-precious blue stone and was the original ingredient of artists' ultramarine blue paint. The blueness of treated laundry compared to the naturally creamy white of untreated laundry gives an optical illusion of added whiteness. BTW, use of a blue-bag is bad news for the long term survival of any textile as the minute particles of lapis lazuli are sharp and will eventually cut into the individual fibres and no amount of rinsing will totally remove all the particles. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Flash and lace
Hi I strongly recommend against using flash in photographing lace. Even if you don't get a whiteout, the flash obliterates all the shadows between the threads and therefore destroys any structure. Lacemakers want to see all the threads and how the object was made. The best way is to set up 2 lights, left and right, about 2 feet away from the lace. Then back one of the lights off a foot or two. The uneven lighting lets each thread have its own shadow, and this delineates the structure of the piece. I also advocate always removing the lace from its frame, so there is nothing between your camera lens and the lace. Even clean glass can distort the image. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] sending snail mail overseas
The very large and heavy parcel I sent to Australia by airmail took 13 days, this time of the year mail always takes longer than anything other time of the year. My parcel was not opened, I took a chance and Christmas wrapped the presents, where another parcel that was sent to my daughter was no Christmas wrapped in case it was opened I sent a parcel a couple of months ago that took five days. My daughter had a lot of stuff shipped to Australia, they had planned to arrive a few days after the arrival of the shipment, they waited, and waited, in the end the went to the house they were renting and slept on the floor as they could not afford two lots of rent. Their goods were kept at the docks for over four weeks, then they get a bill for 500 dollars for the cleaning of four new bikes. Once they paid the money theirs goods were delivered to their house. What was nice, my daughters new neighbours got together and lent them bends and other essentials until their goods arrived. When you have an daughter just over one two sons 4 1/2 and 14 1/2 I can't imagine life was that easy. My daughter is having a party this week for her birthday but for all the people who helped her when she arrived in Australia. Don't forget too, Australia can be up to 11 hours ahead of us, we are 8 hours ahead of Vancouver. When I worked at the PO I could find out the best days to post my overseas mail, sounds crazy, there are some days better than others depending on what flights are available. I do know that in the UK the PO now have their own planes for some routes. I am now writing my overseas cards to be mailed tomorrow. Jean in Newbury UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Met Museum (and maybe others)
Hello all - Tamara's mention of a hospitality house near the Metropolitan Museum for those who want to go soak up the goods of the Ratti Center (yes, catching up on digests here), prompts me to relate an experience. I arrived at the doors of the Met last week hoping to spend a good part of the afternoon just wandering about. But I didn't get in the doors at all since they no longer allow any luggage in the building. (Someone could do quite a business opening a luggage check room in a nearby building -- the hotel across the street wouldn't accept it either.) Mind you I had just come from the Asia Society Museum and went on to the Natural History Museum with an overnight bag on wheels in tow. >From now on, I will just call before visiting a museum to see if I can check a suitcase along with a coat. (The terrorists have won another round, IMHO.) If I had been closer to my hotel I would have left it there for the day, but it wasn't convenient to go back there before getting the train. On a brighter note, for those in the NYC region, I highly recommend a visit to the Asia Society Museum - don't miss the orientation area which one can mistake for a simple seating area near the cafe. The current exhibit on Asian games is absolutely wonderful on many levels: evolution of games, cross cultural comparisons and the objects themselves. There were several examples of textile game boards for the game which became Parcheesi (in the US). Seen out of context, they would simply look like embroidered cloth, but seen in the exhibit they were certainly a "map" for game pieces. And, while I'm at it, I'll also recommend the museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) at 27th and Broadway -- free and open late several evenings during the week (to 8:00 pm). There may not be lace on display but there's always something interesting. regards! Lorraine (in Albany, NY, where we had surprising Thanksgiving thunderstorms yesterday) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemaker's fair and currency
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eileen Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I am headed to the lacemaker's fair in Birmingham, England in a few days. >Does anyone know if the vendors will take a Visa credit card, or should I >try to have British currency with me? There are ATMs in the NEC complex - and the signboards do point them out. If you are arriving at the Station before walking through to the Pavillion, the easiest to go to is probably the Nat West Bank one, for which, instead of turning right at the bottom of the escalators (near Hall 3), carry straight on, to the left of the escalators up to the other halls, and the Nat West Bank is on your left. If there is a queue at the two machines outside, there is also one that you can use inside the branch if it is open. From there, you can carry straight on to the end of that "corridor", turn left and you will come back to the doors out to the Pavillion area - it is basically one big square. I don't think the machines on the Station itself charge, but have watched one person get nabbed by the Security Staff for trying to steal, so would be wary of using them. As ?Jacqui said, we tend to call them cash machines, but most people round here (Birmingham/Midlands) know what an ATM is! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] flashing framed lace
On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 03:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I have the problem with is the reflections of all the surroundings including me and or the camera. Ideas to overcome this would be appreciated. I've never been able to overcome this completely either. The best you can do is to move around until you find the spot with the fewest reflections and take the picture from there. Of course this means that most of the shots are taken from an angle. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemaker's Fair and currency
Don't know if it will appply to non-UK cards, but if you use a debit card (not a credit one) to pay for goods in supermarkets (Tesco, Sainsbury, Somerfield, Waitrose, Asda) you can ask for 'cash back' ie withdraw money from your bank account at the time you pay for your goods (might be a maximum of 50 pounds each transaction). I never use an ATM, I always pay for my goods and then ask for say 30 pounds cash back, just so I have some cash in my purse (wallet). There's no charge for withdrawing money from your account this way, unlike some ATMs. Also ATMs attached to some supermarkets have a notice stating that there is no charge for using it. But I stress, don't know if it applies to non-UK cards, but you can check before you do it. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] green man
Thought you'd be interested in this from an article by Jan Dalley in this weekend's Financial Times "...somewhere, in almost any church in the land, you can see that impish grinning ancient face with leaves and branches spewing and flowing out of his mouth and whirling round his head, or sprouting from his cheeks and eyebrows like mad leafy whiskers. Sometimes the whole head is made of leaves; sometimes it's as if a puckish face is peering out through a dense net of foliage. He can be sinister, he can be rather cuddly-looking. He was also called Jack o' the Green or Jack o' the Woods: he is the spirit of the wildwoods, the Panic elemental force. He is the King of the May; lord of misrule: some say he's the origin of Robin Hood. Whatever: he is definitely nothing to do with being pious on Sundays. We looked up the mighty, intricate, dinner-plate sized Green Men in Winchester and Norwich, St Giles in Edinburgh, Southwell Minster... He's all over Europe; you can find him in India. We discovered a researcher who claims that in Exeter cathedral there are more images of the Green Man than there are of Jesus (he has counted)..." Jean in sunny but chilly Glasgow - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Cathryns cookies
I made the Cathryns cookies following Lynne's recipe this week for my students. They liked them very much. Normally in the north of Holland we don't celebrate the saint days, but St. Cathryn as patroness of the lacemakers is a welcome exception. Thanks Lynne for the delicious recipe. Gon Homburg From Amsterdam, the Netherlands - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Threads and things
In a message dated 24/11/2004 15:40:58 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Oh, one silly question that I should probably wait for a book to ask but > ... > if you're making a lace edging, must it be fitted to the object it's > intended > to embellish? Or can one cut lengths of handmade lace edging? I suspect not! > Sherri in GA Like the other replies, I had a travel roller pillow that I used for demonstrations (also because the baby travel bobbins were so cute and got people talking about their size). I had, at one point over 10m of lace on the pillow and when a friend wanted some lace, I offered to exchange what I had for something she had - she was over the moon. I've done this often now - given away the lace - it's about 2" wide, torchon with rose ground (I love making rose ground for some reason) and I've given over 26m of it away. The Aussie wondered why I have virtually no lace of my own in the house, because I like to give it away. Regards Liz in London I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Threads and things
In a message dated 25/11/2004 01:15:19 GMT Standard Time, Tamara writes:
> Eventually, you will. To start with, 2 dozen bobbins (12 pairs) is a
> perfectly respectable number; you can make nice Russian Tape lace with
> 6prs, though, perhaps, not a whole lot in Torchon. I was also working
> by myself when I started ('89, BHI - before home internet), and I
> hand-carved my bobbins as I progressed through my book (Torchon Lace
> For Today, by Jennifer Fisher) - pair by pair, as needed for the next
> step...
This made me think of a conversation I had with the Aussie at Havant.
We'd been round for the third time and I had just started to buy things
(sorry, I have a very strange way of doing lace fairs - comes from the time I
had
no money and had to look at everything before I'd decide what I'd buy!!).
Aussie says - why do you buy pairs of bobbins - explained that you tie either
end of the thread to a bobbin, hence pairs - then had to explain that no lace
maker would ever refuse a single bobbin (we'd just think you were mean to buy
only one).
Then we had to go through why some are spangled and some are not and some
aren't supposed to be.
I asked where this was going and realised that he was trying to work out how
many bobbins to buy with his £20 note as an Xmas stocking filler - whether to
go for quanity or quality - I pointed him to a good stand and he went off for
a conversation with the lacemaker seller and I believe we've now gone for
quality. Some how, I get the feeling it's a bit like the Blackadder joke - 'I
like cotton, I use it but I've no idea how it works!' He just knows that I
need
these things so he tootles off and buys them with no idea what he's bought.
Regards
Liz in London
I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link
or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee
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Re: [lace] RE:pricking
In a message dated 22/11/2004 21:30:34 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > HOWEVER, there is a time and a place for the pre-pricking. One can pick > up errors in the pattern, and as Lucie said, you can learn a lot about a > pattern and figure out how to make it, by pre-pricking. There are also > times when the pattern might be slightly inaccurate in it's placement of > pinholes, and by pre-pricking you can figure this out. You also tend to > bend a few less pins by pre-pricking. > > Sometimes accuracy is more important in a work of lace than not, and > taking the extra time to pre-prick can save much agony later. But there > are also times when you want quick and dirty, and shortcuts are > appropriate then too. > > Cheers, > Helen, Aussie in Denver. Helen, I'm even more behind in my emails than you!! I make lace very fast and found copying and pricking as I went along so frustrating that I stopped doing it within a few weeks - I also couldn't find a glue that I liked to stick the pattern to the card then film over - everything I tried just didn't seem to dry out enough and left residue on the pins, so even gluing, filming then pricking didn't seem to please me. However, I will defend to the end anyone's right to make lace how they like and have come to realise that really it's all about finding your own style for lace making. One thing that pre-pricking has done for me is that I tend to learn the pattern and how it goes together as I prick - I get a feel for how the lace will make by pricking it out and this speeds up my lacemaking further. So I agree that pre-pricking gives an understanding of the lacemaking. The other thing is that sometimes I don't have the motivation or time to sit and work on a piece of lace so I take that time to prick out a pattern I want later and I actually enjoy that. I know I've said this before, but one lady that I taught to make lace hated winding the bobbins, pricking out the pattern and finishing off the lace. I asked her why she was making lace and she was the famous one that said that it was so people would think she was clever making this lace. Takes all sorts Regards Liz in London I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaker's fair and currency
Sadly, Tim Parker no longer goes to the NEC lace fair. He had problems with the organisers, and decided not to bother a couple of years ago. He's sadly missed Edith [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 28 November 2004 08:15 Subject: Re: [lace] Lacemaker's fair and currency A few of the big ones will - off the top of my head I think Tim Parker, SMP, Roseground if they are there. Most of the smaller ones don't. As Tamara says, ATMs and a debit card are the way to go. However, if you want to find one I would recommend you learn to ask for "cash-point machines" as ATM is not a recognised expression here. The ones in and outside banks are usually free and illustrate the accepted cards, but the ones in less "financial" settings (ie garage forecourts, shops, pubs) sometimes (often) charge. But they have to tell you if they are going to. The key pads are all fairly standard number pads (like the side of your keyboard). Jacquie - hoping to go on Saturday. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaker's fair and currency
A few of the big ones will - off the top of my head I think Tim Parker, SMP, Roseground if they are there. Most of the smaller ones don't. As Tamara says, ATMs and a debit card are the way to go. However, if you want to find one I would recommend you learn to ask for "cash-point machines" as ATM is not a recognised expression here. The ones in and outside banks are usually free and illustrate the accepted cards, but the ones in less "financial" settings (ie garage forecourts, shops, pubs) sometimes (often) charge. But they have to tell you if they are going to. The key pads are all fairly standard number pads (like the side of your keyboard). Jacquie - hoping to go on Saturday. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
