Fw: [lace] separating embroidery thread
My useful non lacemaking tool is my DHm :-) He helped seperate a skein of silk thread, he was brilliant at it and I was rubbish. Between us we made a great team:-) He must have watched someone very closely in his childhood. Sue T, in dull and slightly misty Dorset UK I use this method but only for the length of strand that I'm going to use - because I only do bobbin lace with embroidery floss, linen and/or cotton (never embroidery, I don't like it), I cut off a generous 2-armslength 6-ply strand, isolate one ply and gentle tug it from the mass, allowing the other 5 strands to bunch in a loose rosette, and yes, like Janice mentioned, within the closed hand. I stop from time to time to straighten the rosette or else I'll get knots. Repeat for the remaining strands. I learned the hard way that pulling two strands together almost always results in knots and a frayed temper (mine), so best when wanting two plies to recombine them afterwards. I store the separated strands in small ziplock bags if they aren't going onto bobbins right away. I was taught to separate six stranded embroidery thread the following way: Unwind the skein along the floor, or down a staircase, or in my case, hang it over the second floor balcony in my family room. Hold one end of the skein loosely in the palm of your hand with the ends between your thumb and first finger. Take one single thread end and pull on it. You can wind this onto a card. The other threads tend to bunch up under your closed hand and occasionally you will need to straighten it out. Once you have done one thread you can continue to do as many as you need for your purposes. Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dancing bobbinlacers and Sister Judith's age
Hi Hendrika and all! You are right Hendrika, Arachne is a great place to make new friends! The Simcoe County Lacemakers have given me such a warm welcome and I have enjoyed their Lace days so much! I sure hope to be there again coming summer. I have to correct you on one thing: Sister Judith turned 94 last year. She will attend the convention in Groningen the whole 3 days! Anneke Reijs in Baexem in the South East of The Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.hetnet.nl/~aplag - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Separating embroidery floss
I have read most of your letters on this subject. But what do you do when you don't have a staircase, a balcony or a second floor. Do I have to go up on the roof? BG I have tried several methods of separating the embroidery floss and still haven't come up with the perfect solution. If I'm not mistaken there are 25 meters in a skein. It isn't easy to separate them by pulling just one thread out from the whole length. I have tried cutting the thread by length needed for winding on the bobbin, but also this wasn't perfect. I finally got to the stage of separating it into 3 threads and then pulling one out. Not one of the methods is perfect. Miriam in Arad, where it didn't snow this week but was bitter cold and stormy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] separating embroidery thread
Quite often, I use embroidery floss to make lace and need full-length strands. (For example, my current piece is 2 feet x 1.5 feet, and the next one will be bigger.) I just heard from the owner of Tat's All, the seller of the skein splitter. She's been moving and dealing with a terminally ill husband, but is ready to do business again. On 19 Feb 2008, at 23:07, Dora Smith wrote: Not quite following; does there have to be one proper way to separate embroidery floss? To be honest, I always cut it first, then separate it - far easier that way. You have to hold it up so that it can unwind as it pulls apart. If you just yank on it you end up with a bunched tangle halfway through. Besides, what if you separate the whole skein, and then find out that the number of strands you need per stitch changes? Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Separating embroidery floss
Cut the thread, then separate the floss. ;) Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Miriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:21 AM Subject: [lace] Separating embroidery floss I have read most of your letters on this subject. But what do you do when you don't have a staircase, a balcony or a second floor. Do I have to go up on the roof? BG I have tried several methods of separating the embroidery floss and still haven't come up with the perfect solution. If I'm not mistaken there are 25 meters in a skein. It isn't easy to separate them by pulling just one thread out from the whole length. I have tried cutting the thread by length needed for winding on the bobbin, but also this wasn't perfect. I finally got to the stage of separating it into 3 threads and then pulling one out. Not one of the methods is perfect. Miriam in Arad, where it didn't snow this week but was bitter cold and stormy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] separating embroidery thread
Oh. You know, I did wonder why this was not on the chat list! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Margot Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ARACHNE lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:08 AM Subject: [lace] separating embroidery thread Quite often, I use embroidery floss to make lace and need full-length strands. (For example, my current piece is 2 feet x 1.5 feet, and the next one will be bigger.) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1289 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 10:26 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Separating embroidery floss
Hello Miriam You could try tying a knot/loop at the end of 5 strands, hook it over something and then slowly walk backwards as you wind the 6th strand onto card or something. Of course you'd need a lot or room to walk backwards!! but most skeins of embroidery floss are only 8 metres long. However, I think I would just stand up and allow the skein to fall loosely on the floor in from of me as I wind onto two separate cards. It would be possible to nudge the skein with your foot a bit if necessary. Brenda On 19 Feb 2008, at 11:21, Miriam wrote: I have read most of your letters on this subject. But what do you do when you don't have a staircase, a balcony or a second floor. Do I have to go up on the roof? BG I have tried several methods of separating the embroidery floss and still haven't come up with the perfect solution. If I'm not mistaken there are 25 meters in a skein. It isn't easy to separate them by pulling just one thread out from the whole length. I have tried cutting the thread by length needed for winding on the bobbin, but also this wasn't perfect. I finally got to the stage of separating it into 3 threads and then pulling one out. Not one of the methods is perfect. Miriam in Arad, where it didn't snow this week but was bitter cold and stormy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] separating embroidery thread
I was referring to splitting the whole skein for use in bobbin lace. If I ever do embroidery again, I would do what Dora is suggesting, and cut the length I needed. Janice Dora Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite following; does there have to be one proper way to separate embroidery floss? To be honest, I always cut it first, then separate it - far easier that way. You have to hold it up so that it can unwind as it pulls apart. If you just yank on it you end up with a bunched tangle halfway through. Besides, what if you separate the whole skein, and then find out that the number of strands you need per stitch changes? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Janice Blair To: lace Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: [lace] separating embroidery thread I was taught to separate six stranded embroidery thread the following way: Unwind the skein along the floor, or down a staircase, or in my case, hang it over the second floor balcony in my family room. Hold one end of the skein loosely in the palm of your hand with the ends between your thumb and first finger. Take one single thread end and pull on it. You can wind this onto a card. The other threads tend to bunch up under your closed hand and occasionally you will need to straighten it out. Once you have done one thread you can continue to do as many as you need for your purposes. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com Check convention news here for daily teacher/class info updates!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Separating embroidery floss
Miriam asked: I have read most of your letters on this subject. But what do you do when you don't have a staircase, a balcony or a second floor. Do I have to go up on the roof? BG What I have done is wind the full skein on a knitting bobbin (those flat plastic holders used when knitting in multiple colours). I unwind the length of my body standing up and separate out one strand in the same way as what has been described. I wind up the single strand and the double strand on their own knitting bobbins right away (3 bobbins in use). That way, I can split the floss without a staircase or window. It works well for me. Oh, and I make sure the cats are otherwise occupied, behind a closed door (grin). Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?
There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace? Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on that? Here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh Thanks for your ideas on this. I'm totally in the dark when it comes to Ipswich. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?
To me this lace has the characteristics of a very simple Chantilly - couldn't that be a Tulle ground? The motifs are outlined in gimp and look like half stitch (not linen) and there are picots on the edge - all essential to Chantilly. Chantilly was made by machine as early as the 1870's. Regina - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay? There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace? Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on that? Here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh Thanks for your ideas on this. I'm totally in the dark when it comes to Ipswich. Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.6/1280 - Release Date: 2/15/2008 9:00 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Ipswich Lace on eBay?
On Feb 20, 2008, at 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace? Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on that? Here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh May very well be hand-made; the ground around the motifs *is* uneven and differs from one motif to the next, suggesting it might have been made without pins. Ditto the footside -- looks like it's been made on a well-worn (and therefore no longer perfect) pricking. But not Ipswich, at least I don' think so. None of the laces illustrated in Cotterell's book has the tulle (CTTT) ground, which this lace has. Perhaps something someone bought in Europe? Cute little trimming, though. Wonder if one could still buy 4 yards of even machine-made cotton lace for that price. Or if one could even *find* cotton lace :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Ipswich Lace on eBay?
Hi, Looks like a piece of Bayeaux (sp?) to me. I've worked this same pricking in white. Maybe from the Bayeaux book from the late 80's? I can check tomorrow. Laura Sandison Lace! in NM Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008, at 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace. It is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the likelihood that it is handmade. It is being sold from Pennsylvania. I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace? Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on that? Here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh May very well be hand-made; the ground around the motifs *is* uneven and differs from one motif to the next, suggesting it might have been made without pins. Ditto the footside -- looks like it's been made on a well-worn (and therefore no longer perfect) pricking. But not Ipswich, at least I don' think so. None of the laces illustrated in Cotterell's book has the tulle (CTTT) ground, which this lace has. Perhaps something someone bought in Europe? Cute little trimming, though. Wonder if one could still buy 4 yards of even machine-made cotton lace for that price. Or if one could even *find* cotton lace :) -- Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: non-lace Lace tools
How about the tiny rubber bands that orthodontists use on braces? They're great for bundling two bobbins together. When a bobbin is running out of thread, I like to run a new thread alongside the old for a ways, and bundling the bobbins together makes that a lot easier to do. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] The Tatting Lady....
Spud Islander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lacemakers!! Look what I found under tatting!!! http://smartflix.com/store/video/5941/Milanese-Lace Those tatting people are everywhere! ;o)) Interesting that Louise Colgan and Lia Baumeister are under tatting, but Doris Southard is under weaving. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] shapely music
Spiders, My curiosity is getting the better of me, so I'm going to pose a musical question. Vicki in Maryland is doing her musical survey of our number, and after a marvellous weekend past of Sacred Harp (shape-note) singing, I'm curious if any other spiders out there do Sacred Harp or other shape-note singing (Missouri Harmony, Southern Harmony, etc). Also, though it's not shape note music (that I'm aware of), how about singers of West Gallery Music in the UK? So, any shape-note or west gallery singers out there beside little ol' me? :) Please respond privately. Thurlow Lancaster Ohio To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Dutch lace makers
If you're including half-Dutch lacemakers, then Lancaster, Ohio is where I'm hanging out. My mother is Dutch (born raised in Den Haag), and my father was an American from Texas. And they met and married in Rome, Italy, which is where my mother assures me my existence began. Agnes Boddington wrote: OK, so where else in the world are we Dutch lace makers hanging out? I was born not that far from where Anneke lives: Brunssum near Heerlen. Married an Englishman and moved to UK; rest of family all in the Netherlands, quite a few still in the south of Limburg. So groetjes to all my fellow Dutch lace makers from a foggy and cold East England. Agnes Boddington To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: seat belt stories
On Feb 19, 2008, at 21:34, Beth Schoenberg wrote: My daughter, however, was made in a different mould (she still is...!), and saw it as excessive authoritarianism, and fought the seat-belt from the day she could squirm. Reminds me of my grand-daughter (step)... Everything was fine as long as she and her (older by 2 yrs) brother both had to ride in child seats. But then, at 5, her brother reached the magical age and weight limit, which allowed him to ride like an adult -- with an ordinary seat belt. From then on, getting her into the child seat was a constant fight. So... One day, my stepdaughter gets a phone call at work. From the police. Would she please come to the police station as soon as possible; a problem needs to be solved, regarding her daughter. She hightails it over there and sees her husband in handcuffs and her daughter screaming. Turns out... Jack (my stepdaughter's DH) was supposed to pick up their son from kindergarten, some miles away. So, he tried to bundle Lily into the car seat, to take her with him. But she wouldn't go and screamed down the neighbourhood. One of the neighbours -- new and unfamiliar with the family -- called the police, reporting an attemped kidnapping. The cops came and duly arrested the kidnapper, who claimed he was not only the father of the child but still married to my stepdaughter and still allowed to take Lily out in a car, whether she wanted to go or not. Mary (my stepdaughter) was called to confirm the truth of his statements... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Dutch lace makers
Hi Agnes , Thank you for your friendly groetjes the Simcoe county Lacemakers have two members of Dutch origin ( I am the older one ! ) the younger one is Johanna who hails from Overijsel Another Lacemaker of Dutch origin is on our mailing list but does not attend Lacedays I was born in Bilthoven ( gemeente de Bilt ) emigrated to Canada in 1951 with my family. In the beginning after emigration my parents kept contact with other families who had emigrated from deBilt - Bilthoven resulting in my marriage to someone who used to live across the street from me in Bilthoven I knew about Lacemakeing from a neighbor lady who was Belgian , but did not take up the art until about 25 yrs ago here in Canada. Presently I am taking care of my cabin fever (due to Ontario wintry weather conditions ) with some bobbinlacemaking Hendrika Memb. Simcoe County Lacemakers Township of Springwater Ontario, Canada - Original Message - From: Agnes Boddington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anneke Reijs [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:19 AM Subject: Dutch lace makers OK, so where else in the world are we Dutch lace makers hanging out? East England. Agnes Boddington To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
