[lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Alice Howell
In the supply lists for classes at the kantcentrum, several of them included 
the item 'crowbar'.  Pleasedoes anyone know what tool is meant?  It's not a 
pin lifter because that was mentioned separately.

Alice in Oregon --  only 4 days till I leave for Europe

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Alice wrote:

In the supply lists for classes at the kantcentrum, several of them included
the item 'crowbar'.  Pleasedoes anyone know what tool is meant?  It's not
a pin lifter because that was mentioned separately.

Perhaps our speakers of other languages can help. Having looked at the course
information in other languages:

French is pied de biche (my translation of which is hind foot, but is probably
wrong))
Dutch is Koevoetje (in my dictionary it is koevoet without the je on the end)

I wondered if it is a crochet hook, but that's also mentioned. A lazy susan
perhaps?

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Sister Claire
I've heard of a lazy Susan, but what is it as a lace tool?
Sr. Claire

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wrote:

 Alice wrote:

 In the supply lists for classes at the kantcentrum, several of them
 included
 the item 'crowbar'.  Pleasedoes anyone know what tool is meant?  It's
 not
 a pin lifter because that was mentioned separately.

 Perhaps our speakers of other languages can help. Having looked at the
 course
 information in other languages:

 French is pied de biche (my translation of which is hind foot, but is
 probably
 wrong))
 Dutch is Koevoetje (in my dictionary it is koevoet without the je on the
 end)

 I wondered if it is a crochet hook, but that's also mentioned. A lazy susan
 perhaps?

 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] crowbar again

2008-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
I just googled Koevoetje, picked a web site with the heading www.mot.be |
koevoetje (syn.)- and asked it to translate. It came up with a drawing of what
looks to me like a big pin or nail lifter.
I asked for a better translation got the word the word spijkerlichter (m).

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
Sr. Claire wrote:

I've heard of a lazy Susan, but what is it as a lace tool?

It's a needle (often bent) in a handle or pin vice. The pointed end of the
needle goes into the handle or pin vice, so that the eye of the needle is
sticking out.

You thread the eye with a longish piece of thread. When doing sewings (joining
stitches or the beginning to the end of a piece of lace) you remove the pin
from one stitch loop on one of the pieces to be joined and push the eye
through the loop. Pull the thread up to make a loop, without it coming out of
the eye. Pass one bobbin through the cotton loop. Hold on tight and pull it
back through the stitch where you removed the pin so that a loop is made in
the thread of that bobbin and then pass the second bobbin through the loop
before tying off the threads.

It's the same as using a crochet hook to do sewings, but the thread can't slip
off, and you can't catch fibres from other threads, as I always do when using
a crochet hook or the crochet hook-like that Tim Parker (now Claire's Lace)
sold..

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread miladamarshall

Hello,
I have queried this with the Kantcentrum, and thought they had changed it on 
all the applicable courses - sorry I missed some.
They list a pin lifter, and a pin pusher - this is the 'crowbar', but I 
guess if you had a multi-purpose tool, that will do.

Which course are you going to??  I'm there for Binche 4, July 14th to 25th.
If you are there on this second week, do note that the Monday, 21st July, is 
a national holiday, with no classes.

Cheers, Milada
in sunny Somerset
But be warned - here and Belgium is not generally very warm, and you will 
need some warmer clothing, as well as waterproofs.


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In the supply lists for classes at the kantcentrum, several of them 
included the item 'crowbar'.  Pleasedoes anyone know what tool is 
meant?  It's not a pin lifter because that was mentioned separately.


Alice in Oregon --  only 4 days till I leave for Europe

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Sister Claire
Thanks Jean. I've just been using a crochet hook. I'm used to it, guess I'll
keep on with it. Nice to know, though. Thank you.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Sr. Claire wrote:

 I've heard of a lazy Susan, but what is it as a lace tool?

 It's a needle (often bent) in a handle or pin vice. The pointed end of the
 needle goes into the handle or pin vice, so that the eye of the needle is
 sticking out.

 You thread the eye with a longish piece of thread. When doing sewings
 (joining stitches or the beginning to the end of a piece of lace) you remove
 the pin from one stitch loop on one of the pieces to be joined and push the
 eye through the loop. Pull the thread up to make a loop, without it coming
 out of the eye. Pass one bobbin through the cotton loop. Hold on tight and
 pull it back through the stitch where you removed the pin so that a loop is
 made in the thread of that bobbin and then pass the second bobbin through
 the loop before tying off the threads.

 It's the same as using a crochet hook to do sewings, but the thread can't
 slip off, and you can't catch fibres from other threads, as I always do when
 using a crochet hook or the crochet hook-like that Tim Parker (now Claire's
 Lace) sold..

 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


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[lace] re: lace [crowbar]

2008-06-14 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hello all

A koevoetje = a pinlifter.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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[lace] Koevoet(je)

2008-06-14 Thread J. Falkink
 example of a koevoetje
http://www.scharlaeken.be/cms_images/12473_CI1.jpg
Without the 'je' it becomes a big heavy burglars tool

Jo

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[lace] Honiton/ Milanese

2008-06-14 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi All

Thanks for all the advice I will now not be so frightened of Honiton.  I know
this might sound stupid but I do get a fear( I think fear is too strong a word
but can't think of the word I want at the moment) of doing certain things at
first it was sewing then adding a new thread when one breaks but with each
piece of lace I do I learn a new technique so it is never boring and these
things that I thought I would never be able to do are so simple that I feel
silly for fearing them.

I hope to get some lace done today we are decorating the bedroom and my dear
other half has put me up new worktops etc for my lace and crafts I now have 6
foot of lovely worktop, later on he is putting up some shelves and then my
workspace is complete and I can get working in there. the shelves he is
putting up is actually made up form a chest of drawers turning upside down so
I will have the deepth of shelves for my spare pillows etc. But while he is in
there I haven't been able to get any lace done and I am now starting to get
withdrawl symptoms.

Have a great day

Wendy
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[lace] threads for Milanese.

2008-06-14 Thread Wendy Davies
Hi

Thanks for the useful advice about thread thickness. AS we are not all made of
money we can't always get the right one so it is good to know about
substitutes.

I am also working on the Humming Bird that Sue is and I am using Catona 80 and
feel that maybe that is too thin.  What a pity we can't have the thread half
way between Sue's and mine.




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[lace] koevoetje

2008-06-14 Thread Kleinhout
Hello All

Koevoetje is also Pinlifter. For a picture have a look at www.kleinhout.com 
under
Lace tools.
Tools are handy instruments by  making lace

Greetings 
Rina Zijp

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[lace] Lacemakers map out of order?

2008-06-14 Thread J. Falkink
The last three weeks there were no new entries on the lacemakers map. It has
never been so quiet while it never has been so busy the weeks before, so
somehow I fear it is broken. I tried it for my self but I still seem to be
able to add a new entry. Could somebody else try?

Jo Falkink
developper of the map page
owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map

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Re: [lace] crowbar

2008-06-14 Thread Lorri Ferguson
My first thought/guess is a curved Needle pin or Lazy Maid.  But I don't speak
any language but English.

Lorri in Graham, USA

  Alice wrote:

  In the supply lists for classes at the kantcentrum, several of them
included
  the item 'crowbar'.  Pleasedoes anyone know what tool is meant?  It's
not
  a pin lifter because that was mentioned separately.

  Perhaps our speakers of other languages can help. Having looked at the
course
  information in other languages:

  French is pied de biche (my translation of which is hind foot, but is
probably
  wrong))
  Dutch is Koevoetje (in my dictionary it is koevoet without the je on the
end)

  I wondered if it is a crochet hook, but that's also mentioned. A lazy susan
  perhaps?

  Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Lacemakers map out of order?

2008-06-14 Thread Barron





The last three weeks there were no new entries on the lacemakers map. It
has
never been so quiet while it never has been so busy the weeks before, so
somehow I fear it is broken. I tried it for my self but I still seem to be
able to add a new entry. Could somebody else try?

Jo Falkink

I just added
myself Jo, trouble is I seem to be there twice!
jenny barron
Scotland

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RE: [lace] Lacemakers map out of order?

2008-06-14 Thread J. Falkink
No problem. As a moderator I deleted the duplicate.

 I just added
 myself Jo, trouble is I seem to be there twice!
 jenny barron
 Scotland

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[lace] Lacemakers map out of order?

2008-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
I've asked Lori three times to remove me from the map, but I'm still there 
out on the old gas works site. Two reasons being (a) I don't live anywhere 
near the old gasworks site in Hamworthy (b) I don't want just anyone to be 
able to pinpoint where I actually live.


I'll have to try to be deleted from it for a fourth time.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] crowbar - thanks

2008-06-14 Thread Alice Howell
Thanks for the translation help. A pinlifter was the only tool I could think of 
that was remotely shaped like a crowbar but it was also listed.  (Crowbar is a 
heavy, iron tool for removing nails and taking things apart.  One end often has 
a 'forked tongue' split area to pull nails out of things.)

No, I'm not taking a class at Kantcentrumjust dreaming, and browsing 
through the class lists to see if a class would be going on when I'm visiting.  
I'll just have to enjoy looking at everything.

Alice in Oregon

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[lace] Lacemakers map out of order?

2008-06-14 Thread Phil and Annette Lally

Hi Jo

I've just tried to remove myself from the map as per instructions but the 
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced straight back to me - so maybe ther is a 
problem there


Annette in Trentham, Australia
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[lace-chat] Locomotives (steam)

2008-06-14 Thread Jean Nathan
There's a steam railway in Dorset at Swanage. It's only a few miles long, 
but it attracts huge numbers of visitors each year. The trip out and back on 
it is about an hour. If they were allowed to do it, it could be connected to 
the main lines that go all over the country. It's run by volunteers.


There are other volunteer groups around the country who restore and run 
steam trains with the old-style carriages. Means anyone who wants to can 
fulfil their childhood dream by joining one of these groups and become an 
engine driver.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace-chat] Locomotives (steam)

2008-06-14 Thread Thurlow Weed
As long as we're venturing from adjectives as nouns into steam 
locomotives (locomotors? vbg), I'll have to put my two cents in. 

When I lived in South Florida, I was quite active with the Gold Coast 
Railroad, which operated several locomotives, including a steamer.  For 
about five years I operated a 4-6-2 light Pacific oil-burning steam 
engine from 1913 for our weekend runabouts on the property.  I enjoyed 
it immensely and in due time got quite accustomed to the 120-degree heat 
in the engine cab in the middle of August.  The 95-degree warmth outside 
absolutely felt like air-conditioning when you stepped down from the cab.


I also had the joy of being part of history:  The museum owns and 
maintains the U.S. Presidential Pullman, the Ferdinand Magellan.  In 
1990, the Pentagon requested use of the car in Ogdensburg, New York for 
the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Ogdensburg Agreement.  This 
is the joint US/Canadian defence agreement.  The agreement was signed on 
a sister car to the Magellan, however, that car was no longer 
roadworthy.  Of the seven cars in the original fleet, only two remained: 
the Magellan and one sister.  It was also appropriate that U.S. No. 1 
be the car used for this auspicious occasion.


Since the car must be attended at all times if out on an exhibition 
tour, three of us got to live aboard this armoured fortress for a month 
while it went from Miami to upstate New York and back.  Of course, we 
slept in the crews quarters and in Stateroom A.  Staterooms B  C were 
*absolutely* off limits, though we did use the connecting shower, as we 
weren't able to get the one in the crew quarters to work right.  (Hadn't 
been used since Kennedy administration.)  The only real workout was in 
NY, when the air pressure in the water tank had run out, and I got to 
manually pump it up again for about an hour.  (Imagine pumping an 
over-sized bicycle pump for an hour!)


Thurlow
Lancaster OH

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Re: [lace-chat] Locomotives (steam)

2008-06-14 Thread Janice Blair
All this talk about locomotives reminded me that we have a railway museum near 
Rockford.  http://www.irm.org/  The Illinois Railway Museum is the largest in 
the U.S. according to Wickipedia so it would be a good outing for anyone coming 
to convention if they have train interests.  I have never been although I drive 
through the town every week on my way to lace guild.  I have only been to the 
Historical Museum for special events.  Real small town entertainment.
Janice

Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a steam railway in Dorset at 
Swanage. It's only a few miles long, 
but it attracts huge numbers of visitors each year. The trip out and back on 
it is about an hour. If they were allowed to do it, it could be connected to 
the main lines that go all over the country. It's run by volunteers.

There are other volunteer groups around the country who restore and run 
steam trains with the old-style carriages. Means anyone who wants to can 
fulfil their childhood dream by joining one of these groups and become an 
engine driver.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 

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Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/
www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com  Check for class spaces, many are full.

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