[lace] Use of aficot and laying instructions

2009-09-11 Thread Janis Savage

Dear Jeri
Thank you so much for your information on the use of an aficot and the 
reasoning behind laying threads. I had heard about these things before but 
you explained it all so beautifully that I now understand why it is done. I 
intend to print it out and keep it with my embroidery things.

Thank you from
Janis Savage
lacem...@mweb.co.za
in Honeydew, South Africa
where I am just recovering from a total hip transplant and once I can sitt 
comfortably again, I inten to use my recovery time finishing some of those 
UFOs.


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Re: [lace] aficot afficot??

2009-09-11 Thread Jeriames
Dear Susan,
 
You must have noticed that the spelling of many words in Europe  change 
depending on language translations.
 
I use the spelling of S.F.A. Caulfeild and B.C. Saward (notice the ei are 
 reversed in the name!) in The Dictionary of Needlework, published first 
in  1882 in London.  These two ladies - Sophia and Blanche - wrote a book  
that is still useful today, and it has been republished in 2 volumes by  
Dover.  Many lace references are included.  In hardback, the book runs  to 528 
pages, and it measures 11 high x 9 wide.  It is the first  reference I go 
to for 19th Century look-ups. 
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 9/10/2009 10:10:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
hottl...@neo.rr.com writes:

Does  this mean that we have two highly similar French words that refer to 
2  completely different tools used in the field of  
threads/fibers/textiles!?!  Who knew?  Susan, in Erie, thinking  about serving 
tomayto aspic with a 
tomahto aspic server ;-)   

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[lace] My Tally Video in Utube

2009-09-11 Thread David C COLLYER
Dear Friends,
Mike has very kindly edited the video of me making a tally in bobbin 
lace, and placed it on Utube for your edification. I look forward to 
your further comments

David in Ballarat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYk
 

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RE: [!! SPAM] [lace] Humped tallies?

2009-09-11 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
Actually this has made me curious too. What's the difference between a
rolled tally and a humped tally?
Karen in Malta

-Original Message-
From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
Debora Lustgarten
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:12 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [!! SPAM] [lace] Humped tallies?

wow, that sparked my curiosity!
Ae there pictures of a humped tally anywhere on the web?  How do you make
them?
...and, of course, my nasty and very earthy nature started going on 
all sorts of off-colour tangents... ;-)

Debora L.

At 05:08 PM 10/09/2009, you wrote:
Don't forget humped tallies which were traditional in old beds and went out
of vogue.  Most people now do rolled tallies, but they're slower to make
and
humped ones are faster - an important thing if you're making lace by the
yard for sale and a living.

Humped tallies shouldn't be confused with overlayed/flat overlayed tallies.

Helen, in lovely sunny Duvall, WA

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Fw: [lace] My Tally Video in Utube

2009-09-11 Thread Sue
I tried to find this and failed until I realised the link was doubled, so 
with this single address you will be able to see a very nice clear 
explanation of leaf tally.

Thank you David.
Sue T



Dear Friends,
Mike has very kindly edited the video of me making a tally in bobbin
lace, and placed it on Utube for your edification. I look forward to
your further comments

David in Ballarat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYk


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[lace] box folders for the last time, yes really!

2009-09-11 Thread tess parrish
Success!  Thanks to the help from lace friends and neighbors, the  
elusive box folders have been found in the US.  If anyone is  
interested, I will be glad to send the information on where to find  
them and how much they cost.


Tess (tess1...@aol.com), very relieved

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Re: [lace] My Tally Video in Utube

2009-09-11 Thread Clay Blackwell

Thank you David, for your version of a tally!

I am still waiting to see someone do them like I do...  It would seem 
that there are infinite ways to do a tally.  I confess that for leaf 
tallies, I do them slightly different than I do for square tallys. 

Still, I think for relatively new lacemakers who have not yet found a 
way to make a pretty tally, having numerous versions available on 
YouTube is wonderful!! 

I first tried to make a tally when I had been making lace about a year.  
At that point, all of the members of the guild I am in referred to them 
as dreaded tallies, so going into it with that mindset was not 
helpful.  I asked my teacher how to make a tally, and without getting 
out of her seat, she said, You just do it...  cross twist twist, 
tension, cross twist twist!  Needless to say, that was not helpful at 
all, and I realized I needed a real lace teacher!   Shortly after 
that, I had the opportunity to take a class with Ulrike (Lohr, at the 
time).   I asked her to show me, and she is the one I first learned 
from.  I came away from that workshop with my head spinning with 
excellent ideas and tricks - and have never forgotten what a great 
workshop that was!!  And the person who invited me to the workshop was 
none other than Tess Parrish, who started this thread on tallies by 
introducing us to her video!  Sometimes things go in circles, don't 
they!  Thanks again and again, Tess! 

I think the key to doing successful tallys is always that you have to 
practice, practice, practice.  I intentionally took on a piece of lace 
which had hundreds of tallies in it, when I wanted to perfect them, and 
by the time I had finished the piece, I could safely say that a tally 
was just another thing...  there were way bigger challenges in that 
piece for me than a mere tally!!  To see the piece, go to 
*http://tinyurl.com/ljg2fe.


Clay
*


David C COLLYER wrote:

Dear Friends,
Mike has very kindly edited the video of me making a tally in bobbin 
lace, and placed it on Utube for your edification. I look forward to 
your further comments


David in Ballarat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYk 


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[lace] tallies, laying tools af(f)icots

2009-09-11 Thread hottleco
Hello!  Thank you David for the tally video!  As much as I like the economy of 
movement of the Brioude way, I don't think I could hold the bobbins between 
my fingers because of the permanent crook in my repaired my right ring finger.  
Your pins  plastic seem like helpful tools to me so will give it a try.  Loved 
the ivory piece, hankie perhaps?  Shall I send my address privately?  It would 
get top billing in my embroidered linen hankie folder!!  Jeri, thanks for 
reminding us of the importance of a laying tool.  This is the reason so many 
x-stitch pieces look untidy!  Two threads over two gets yukky quick!  I've 
resolved that by working 1 over 1 on high count linen--too lazy to frame up a 
small piece.  While I end up with miniatures,  not all patterns are suitable, 
the result is sort of a petit-point appearance that is quite engaging.  As to 
the aficot/afficot, I can see there should be one of each in my tool box!  
Hmmm, will check with my knitty friends as something perf
 orated  boxwood sounds intriguing  could be helpful when I need that 3rd 
hand when I'm knitting.  Sincerely, Susan in Erie, PA where I'm still working 
on glow-in-the-dark pillowcases for a quilt guild fundraiser  

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[lace] Re: humped tallies

2009-09-11 Thread Debora Lustgarten

Many thanks, Helen!
I noticed that the humped tallies leave an opening in the back, 
whereas the rolled tallies do not create one; that is, the 
cloth-stitch background remains even.
I wonder if anyone has a graphic or line drawing of each type of 
tally?  It would help me learn how to make them and see the further 
differences.
Many thanks to Helen again and to all the list for their knowledge 
and helpfulness!


Debora L.
P.S.: I've also learned a lot from the recent YouTube videos!


At 10:53 AM 11/09/2009, you wrote:

I've emailed Debora and Karen off list with photos, so if anyone else is
curious about the difference between humped and rolled, please email me
privately and I will forward you my photos - I have very clear close-ups of
both types of tallies.

Helen, in foggy Duvall, WA.

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[lace] Re: My Tally Video in Utube

2009-09-11 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Well done video Mike and David!  A very interesting approach and I like the
way you use the pins for support on the side threads. Haven't seen that way
before. I am going to give that a try.  A lot of hand action, but whatever
works!  Though not so much more hand action than normal lacing.

I work tallies on the pillow with the palm of my hand holding down the bases
of three passive bobbins and my finger tips on the heads of these bobbins.
The fingers make the passives lift up and down like a weaving loom.  The
weaver easily passes over and under.  I don't use spangled bobbins for this
technique.  And sure helps to have bobbins with a point.  Here is a partial
explanation of how I do it.  Partial because a few of the pictures don't
load.  But the instructions are still there.  You get the idea.

http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/making-a-leaf-tally/


I had to chuckle at the celluloid/cellulite comment :-D

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
blog: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/
TatmanĀ¹s Online Shop: http://tatman.etsy.com
email: tatmant...@gmail.com



On 9/11/09 6:59 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 Mike has very kindly edited the video of me making a tally in bobbin
 lace, and placed it on Utube for your edification. I look forward to
 your further comments
 
 David in Ballarat
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9VyaG6CYkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt9
 VyaG6CYk 
 
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[lace] Suffolk Lace

2009-09-11 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend

Hi all
As some of you know I've been working on a book Suffolk Lace and the 
Lacemakers of Eye for several years now, well after many months of major 
major technical problems, which neither the printers, numerous 
computer/printer technicians and various others have been able to fathom, 
and although a month later than anticipated and only six days before my 
deadline, the book was finally delivered to me this afternoon. It is all 
very exciting, I'm pleased with the end result and also very relieved that 
its finally here. The book will be officially launched on Saturday 19th 
September at Kesgrave Lace Day, when we will also be celebrating Suffolk 
Lacemakers 25th Anniversary.


Nicky in Suffolk   . breathing many huge sighs of relief

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Re: [lace] Suffolk Lace

2009-09-11 Thread bev walker
Congratulations Nicky - that is a huge weight lifted off, can tell from way
over here ;)
Can you tell us about the book - it is historical I think - photos?
patterns? hardbound or ? - where and when can we get one...
(just wondering!)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, nicky.hoewener-townsend 
bob.b...@virgin.net wrote:

 Hi all
 As some of you know I've been working on a book Suffolk Lace and the
 Lacemakers of Eye for several years now, well after many months of major
 major



-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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[lace] Making tallies

2009-09-11 Thread Ruth Rocker

Hi all

I know I'm certainly enjoying watching these videos on YouTube. What I 
need help with isn't leaf tallies, it's the square ones. I have YET to 
make one and have it look right. What are the secrets?


Thanks. I'm still a baby when it comes to making lace so I need all 
the help I can get.

--

Ruth R. in Ohio
roxw...@krafters.net

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Re: [lace] Future Lacemakers of the Holy Land

2009-09-11 Thread lbuyred
Sister Claire,
It looks to me like you have some lace super stars in the making.  I hope they 
keep up the good work.  Please be sure to share their progress with all of us.
Thank you,
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA

-- Sister Claire quietasa...@gmail.com wrote: 
Mayliss and Elvira started their lessons again. 

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[lace] leaf tallies in Die Spitze

2009-09-11 Thread bev walker
Hi everyone

In the current issue of Die Spitze there are quite a few items about leaf
tallies, some nice patterns that have them, a Cluny style with plaits, leaf
tallies, and raised tallies on half-stitch blocks; a Scheeberger 'UFO' with
flat tallies, and an Italian Guipure with rolled tallies. There are
technical diagrams on one of the pages, in 4 languages; a small corner
devoted to tallies shows 6 varieties of leaf tally (2 pr., 2 pr. with
changed weavers, 3 pair, and three versions of a tally made with 4 pairs.
There are 5 versions of the square tally.

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Making tallies

2009-09-11 Thread bev walker
With the square, it helps when starting out to use temporary pins to support
the pairs as you make the square shape, and again when you end. The end pair
that are passives should be worked into the rest of the lace before the end
pair that has the weaver, so that the tally isn't pulled out of shape (or
could be the other way around - I haven't made them in a while).
(does this help?!)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Ruth Rocker roxw...@krafters.net wrote:

 Hi all

 I know I'm certainly enjoying watching these videos on YouTube. What I need
 help with isn't leaf tallies, it's the square ones. I have YET to make one
 and have it look right. What are the secrets?


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Big thank you

2009-09-11 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hello David

A big thank you for the video of the leaf tallies. Brilliant idea to use 
pins to keep the tension on the outside bobbins.
I will certainly try this on my next leaf, and as you said in the video, 
after a thousand I should be perfect.


Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] Making tallies

2009-09-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
I make the square tallies, and then work in the end pair that does *not* 
have the weaver.  When I first started making tallies, my biggest 
problem was that they collapsed after I began using the weaver again.  
So...  I put a knot at the pin and then continued.  The knot didn't 
show, but I wasn't happy with my cheat.  So I eventually became more 
comfortable with the pattern and with my tensioning in general, and so I 
just used a half-hitch instead of a full knot.  That seemed to work as 
well, and on the occasions when I had to undo a tally (*not* something 
that I could avoid, occasionally!), it was much easier than picking out 
a knot made with 140/2 thread without destroying the threads!!  Finally, 
Anny Noben-Slegers encouraged me to set up the tally so that the work on 
the left of it can continue immediately after the tally, then make the 
tally and carefully work the worker as far into the piece as I could 
with what I had, and after two or three stitches, it's safe and you 
don't need to baby it any more.  That works for me.  But I still use 
the half-hitch!!  ; )


Clay

bev walker wrote:

With the square, it helps when starting out to use temporary pins to support
the pairs as you make the square shape, and again when you end. The end pair
that are passives should be worked into the rest of the lace before the end
pair that has the weaver, so that the tally isn't pulled out of shape (or
could be the other way around - I haven't made them in a while).
(does this help?!)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Ruth Rocker roxw...@krafters.net wrote:

  

Hi all

I know I'm certainly enjoying watching these videos on YouTube. What I need
help with isn't leaf tallies, it's the square ones. I have YET to make one
and have it look right. What are the secrets?





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[lace] Lacemaking participation in International Climate Day of Action October 24th?

2009-09-11 Thread Julie Enevoldsen
Gentle Spiders,

I just sent this to my group's list, but, on reflection, it occurs to me
this could go wider:

October 24th is the International Climate Day of Action.
http://www.350.org/invitation

The idea is to represent 350, because 350 parts per million is what many
scientists, climate experts, and progressive national governments are now
saying is the safe upper limit for CO2 in our  atmosphere. 

People in more than 1000 communities around the globe have already
announced plans-they'll be school children planting 350 trees in Bangladesh,
scientists hanging banners saying 350 on the statues on Easter Island, 350
scuba divers diving underwater at the Great Barrier Reef, and a thousand
more creative actions like these. At each event, people will gather for a
big group photo that somehow depicts 350--and upload that photo to the web
350.org. As actions take place around the world, we'll link all the pictures
together electronically via the web--by the end of the day, we'll have a
powerful visual petition linking together the entire planet that we can
deliver to the media and world leaders.

The petition is aimed at the big meeting in Copenhagen this year.

So--I'm looking for ideas about something lacemakers could do as a group to
represent 350, and who would be interested in participating? Time is
short

I realize not everyone on this list agrees with the goals represented by
this Day of Action. My message is for those who do; respecting list rules,
please keep replies focused on lace. 

--Julie E. in Seattle

j.enevold...@wlonk.com
weft.wlonk.com 

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Re: [lace] Suffolk Lace

2009-09-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
Oddest thing...  I got Bev's response to this post, but did not get the 
original post *except* that I got the original post on lace chat !!


I suppose this is just another example of the ineptitude of my 
server...  the slovenly (but expensive) comcast.net.  Unfortunately, 
it's the only game in town for me, and when there is another, there will 
be dancing in the streets!


But...   to the point!!  Nicky, I'm so happy to hear you've achieved the 
ultimate hurdle in publishing!!!  Do give us more information, and tell 
us who the distributors are, so that we can alert our purveyors... etc., 
etc.!!


Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA


bev walker wrote:

Congratulations Nicky - that is a huge weight lifted off, can tell from way
over here ;)
Can you tell us about the book - it is historical I think - photos?
patterns? hardbound or ? - where and when can we get one...
(just wondering!)

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, nicky.hoewener-townsend 
bob.b...@virgin.net wrote:

  

Hi all
As some of you know I've been working on a book Suffolk Lace and the
Lacemakers of Eye for several years now, well after many months of major
major





  


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Re: [lace] Making tallies

2009-09-11 Thread David C COLLYER

At 04:10 AM 12/09/2009, Ruth Rocker wrote:

Hi all

I know I'm certainly enjoying watching these videos on YouTube. What 
I need help with isn't leaf tallies, it's the square ones. I have 
YET to make one and have it look right. What are the secrets?


Ruth,
if you use my method with the 2 side pins, square tallies are 
actually easier than leaf ones. It's all in the tension you apply to 
the 2 outside bobbins regardless of the technique you use though.

David in Ballarat

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