RE: [lace] Pls kindly get back !!!!
Oh, dear, Janet's computer has been hacked! Not her fault, but I hope it gets fixed soon. Margery. margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of janet theaker Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:44 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [lace] Pls kindly get back Hi, Sorry i didn't Inform you i just arrive Cyprus now and i am in a terrible situation that i really need to take care of i need in loan of 2000.euro from you i will explain and refund your money to you as soon as i get back home please get back to me if you can help.Please keep this between us Janet Theaker - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] Pls kindly get back !!!!
Yes it came to me as well. What a shame!! Daphne Sunny and warm Norfolk UK - Original Message - From: janet theakermailto:janet.thea...@hotmail.co.uk To: undisclosed-recipients:mailto:undisclosed-recipients: Sent: 03 June 2011 10:44 Subject: [lace] Pls kindly get back Hi, Sorry i didn't Inform you i just arrive Cyprus now and i am in a terrible situation that i really need to take care of i need in loan of 2000.euro from you i will explain and refund your money to you as soon as i get back home please get back to me if you can help.Please keep this between us Janet Theaker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.commailto:majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.heremailto:y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.commailto:arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003http://community.webshots.com/ user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Point ground question
Dear Friends, I was working on my Chantilly today and wondered what some of you might do when you find yourself in the situation I did. This piece is very fine and sometimes the dots are virtually on top of each other. I was in the middle of a large open area of plain point ground when suddenly I realized I had an extra pair of bobbins. So what do I do??? They HAVE to go! This has happened before and so what I do is this. I undo the 3 twists on 2 neighbouring pairs, tie the middle 2 of the 4 bobbins off using my favourite knot, throw them out, and then re-twist the remaining 2 bobbins 3 times. I realize that in courser work this may stick out like dogs' b but I find it virtually invisible with finer work (unless you know of course). Just interested to know if any of you have a better way to solve this problem. Of course it does always leave you wondering if you are short a pair somewhere else - sometimes yes, and sometimes no. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Point ground question
Normally I unwork the lace all the way to the point I think I might have screwed up to see if I can somehow find out where that pair is supposed to be. Sometimes that means unlacing an entire row or two. For me it isn't just getting the lace finished. I am a process kind of person and I like the challenge of the puzzle. I am not a point ground expert(only working on small Bucks edging for now and really enjoy it), but seems that if you have to throw that pair out now and find you need it later on, you can just add it in. Thank goodness fine lace work is forgiving!! I tend to knot off too. Although I have taken a needle to weave the ends in later. But that can work its way out eventually unless you know how to work the trail to secure. So knotting off is my preferred method. What is this favorite knot of yours, may I ask? I sure could use some other kinds for my fine work I like to do in both tatting and bobbin lace. -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats On 6/3/11 11:23 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Dear Friends, I was working on my Chantilly today and wondered what some of you might do when you find yourself in the situation I did. This piece is very fine and sometimes the dots are virtually on top of each other. I was in the middle of a large open area of plain point ground when suddenly I realized I had an extra pair of bobbins. So what do I do??? They HAVE to go! This has happened before and so what I do is this. I undo the 3 twists on 2 neighbouring pairs, tie the middle 2 of the 4 bobbins off using my favourite knot, throw them out, and then re-twist the remaining 2 bobbins 3 times. I realize that in courser work this may stick out like dogs' b but I find it virtually invisible with finer work (unless you know of course). Just interested to know if any of you have a better way to solve this problem. Of course it does always leave you wondering if you are short a pair somewhere else - sometimes yes, and sometimes no. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] My Favourite Knot
Dear Mark and other Knotters What is this favorite knot of yours, may I ask? I sure could use some other kinds for my fine work I like to do in both tatting and bobbin lace. Whilst a Bowline or Sheet Bend will always work well to secure 2 threads, they are often impossible to do in a confined space. So, for tying off 2 bobbins I most often use the plain old Reef Knot but put an extra turn in the first part. So for me the saying from the Boy Scouts or Boys' Brigade goes:- Right over left and under AND UNDER again Left over right and under. Then to make absolutely certain, I usually add a further:- Right over left and under. David in Ballarat - off to bed now at 0250hrs. At least there's no frost tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] My Favourite Knot - addendum
Dear Friends, I forgot to say earlier that this knot is extremely useful in day to day tasks. Because of the extra turn on the first part, that part will never slip, and as such is ideal for tying parcels (where you no longer have to find another person to put your finger on it), and also if you do this extra turn when tying children's shoelaces (if they still have them) even if the bow comes undone, the initial twist will hold. David in Ballarat - really going to bed this time!!! So for me the saying from the Boy Scouts or Boys' Brigade goes:- Right over left and under AND UNDER again Left over right and under. Then to make absolutely certain, I usually add a further:- Right over left and under. David in Ballarat - off to bed now at 0250hrs. At least there's no frost tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lefkara lace book review
Hello All! Mary Corbet's www.needlenthread.com has another blurb about Lefkara lace today. This time she reviews the book by Androula Hadjiyiasemi, including some pics of the book itself. Someone replied that new copies of the book are available she posted the link. Perhaps IOLI or Lace Guild UK has the book if anyone wants to try before buying. It's scare at public libraries; only a few are listed on www.worldcat.org. Have fun, it's quite lovely stuff. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: My Favourite Knot
AI call that a surgical knot. Because a retired surgeon taught it to me and he was interested in my tatting knot. Sometimes surgical knots can be double reef knots for both halves. Thanks for the explanation. Have a good sleep! Mark, aka Tatman - no frost in sight here! Just trying to deal with the heat. ;) On 6/3/11 11:50 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: Whilst a Bowline or Sheet Bend will always work well to secure 2 threads, they are often impossible to do in a confined space. So, for tying off 2 bobbins I most often use the plain old Reef Knot but put an extra turn in the first part. So for me the saying from the Boy Scouts or Boys' Brigade goes:- Right over left and under AND UNDER again Left over right and under. Then to make absolutely certain, I usually add a further:- Right over left and under. David in Ballarat - off to bed now at 0250hrs. At least there's no frost tonight. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Have I had a good idea or do you already do it?
In a knitting magazine I bought last week there's an item on wool stashes. It gives the wraps per inch of the different plies of wool so you can identify whether you have double knitting wool or 4-ply equivalent or whatever. They show a couple of wooden gauges for winding the wool round and one looks very much like a turned thick lace bobbin with the gauge part (the neck) exactly an inch long. They call it an inch gauge/Wrap per inch tool. The web link to it doesn't come up with what it should and I haven't found it by googling. I thought a lace bobbin which isn't used much, which has a neck exactly 1 inch long (unlikely to be as short as 1 cm), especially if it's a bit thick could be used as a gauge for lace threads with the aid of Brenda's threads book. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Have I had a good idea or do you already do it?
Hi Jean I just use a piece of paper with two parallel lines drawn on it. The instructions are at: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/misc/misc.htm but the photo does really need re-doing as it's not very sharp. Brenda In a knitting magazine I bought last week there's an item on wool stashes. It gives the wraps per inch of the different plies of wool so you can identify whether you have double knitting wool or 4-ply equivalent or whatever. They show a couple of wooden gauges for winding the wool round and one looks very much like a turned thick lace bobbin with the gauge part (the neck) exactly an inch long. They call it an inch gauge/Wrap per inch tool. The web link to it doesn't come up with what it should and I haven't found it by googling. I thought a lace bobbin which isn't used much, which has a neck exactly 1 inch long (unlikely to be as short as 1 cm), especially if it's a bit thick could be used as a gauge for lace threads with the aid of Brenda's threads book. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Point ground question
Been there...done that. In a complicated lace piece, when I come up with an extra pair of bobbins, I don't want to spend a lot of time undoing things. A few stitches...OK, but not lots. I just throw back the most expendable two threads and just keep going. Sooner or later, I'll come to a place where I am short a pair. Depending on the situation, I either hang in a new pair to make up the shortage, or take the two thrown-back threads and just lay them into place, then keep working. Trim off the extra thread loops afterwards. The thrown-out threads may or may not be tied. It depends on the lace and how tightly they were woven in before throwing out. Alice in Oregon..where we expect 80+ degrees the for next two days, then cool again. - Original Message - From: David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au This piece is very fine and sometimes the dots are virtually on top of each other. I was in the middle of a large open area of plain point ground when suddenly I realized I had an extra pair of bobbins. So what do I do??? They HAVE to go! Just interested to know if any of you have a better way to solve this problem. Of course it does always leave you wondering if you are short a pair somewhere else - sometimes yes, and sometimes no. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Point ground question
David, in my book thats perfectly acceptable, I always tell my friends that I teach that its no good learning to make lace well if you don't learn how to cheat. There is no point in taking out perfectly good work to try and discover where the extra pair came from - just lose it any way that suits you, the same goes for one pair short- just look for a suitable place to add one, problem solved. Many purists will shudder but as long as it does not show what matters. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Have I had a good idea or do you already do it?
I tried wrapping threads around both a wooden dowel and cardboard BUT there is one major problem to that method (sorry Brenda) UNLESS you use a constant tension on your thread as you wind it you can change the number of wraps per inch quite significantly. I experimented using a loose hand tension and then a tight hand tension and got as much as 5 wraps per inch difference in the same length of thread. As a physicist this type of error is not acceptable. In my dotage I may try doing the wraps using a predetermined tension that can be controlled. Also some threads such as wool have more elasticity (again my materials science training comes in here) and hence stretch, narrow and hence change their behaviour, ie wraps per inch. When determining thickness of wool I always check the recommended needle size as my guide. When it comes to lace threads I have used 2 books, Brenda's and Martina's. If the European thread thickness which is independent of wraps, is on the label I use Martina's book to make any substitutions. If no thread thickness is available I then use Brenda's book and double check with Martina's (Brenda has more threads in her book and is awlays a good starting point). Anna in not so sunny Sydney On 4/06/11 5:44 AM, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hi Jean I just use a piece of paper with two parallel lines drawn on it. The instructions are at: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/misc/misc.htm but the photo does really need re-doing as it's not very sharp. Brenda In a knitting magazine I bought last week there's an item on wool stashes. It gives the wraps per inch of the different plies of wool so you can identify whether you have double knitting wool or 4-ply equivalent or whatever. They show a couple of wooden gauges for winding the wool round and one looks very much like a turned thick lace bobbin with the gauge part (the neck) exactly an inch long. They call it an inch gauge/Wrap per inch tool. The web link to it doesn't come up with what it should and I haven't found it by googling. I thought a lace bobbin which isn't used much, which has a neck exactly 1 inch long (unlikely to be as short as 1 cm), especially if it's a bit thick could be used as a gauge for lace threads with the aid of Brenda's threads book. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
