[lace] royal lace
Hello All! Thanks Jean for posting more pictures/info on Kate's dress. Your little schematic made it easy to see how the floral bits turned out to look like daffodils (to me) on the bodice & collar! I must say, at least one online crazy quilt maven has already used the technique on her current opus. Which leads me to ask--what happened to the cut-aways?!? While I don't expect to see them on eBay, they would make a good fund raiser for a worthy royal cause. According to RSN, the dress will be displayed from July 23 to Oct 3 & tickets may be booked at www.royalcollection.org.uk. Here's hoping an Arachne member gets a good spot in the queue! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] White dresses for debutantes
White wedding dresses are post Queen Victoria who wore a white dress for her wedding, until that time everyone wore their best dresses to get married in. The tradition only started in Britain. However, for rites of passage in the Catholic church girls generally wore white as a sign of purity, hence white christening gowns, white first communion dresses and veils, white confirmation dresses and veils (often the first Communion veil reused). Young girls also had white dresses as their best dress since coal tar dyes only became easily available in the mid 19th C. White was relatively easy to care for since you could boil white cotton and linen and 'bleach' it with lemon juice etc. The coming out balls were essentially a marker for when a young woman came onto the marriage market, hence 16 was the usual age at which this happened. In Britain it was being presented at court BUT other places had similar methods to advertise a young woman's readiness for marriage. Anna from a cold and rainy Sydney On 19/07/11 11:14 PM, pene piip wrote: One period of time that has always intrigued me is the so-called Regency period. Or during the Victorian era when young girls were presented at court to the reigning monarch. The young girls of upper society would traditionally wear long white ballgown dresses with trains & tiaras, etc. If I had lived in that period & I'd been presented at court, I think my white dress might have been worn again as a wedding gown. Isn't this a possibility of the origin of white wedding dresses? Unfortunately the year I was born Queen Elizabeth discontinued the practice of being presented at court. I tried to find out when debutantes were first presented at court & found this article: http://www.hrp.org.uk/KensingtonPalace/stories/exhibitions/introductiontothedebutantes.aspx which mentions that it was a 200 year old tradition. Does anybody know who & when it started? I remember watching the TV series called "Love in a Cold Climate" (1980) based on Nancy Mitford's books & reading them shortly after getting married in 1981 & was then a novice lacemaker. Pene in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Missing mail
Your mail box may register some of the mail as spam or may junk it automatically. If you have good mail filters it happens. If the mail 'JUNKED' by your mail system, simply look in the junk folder and they could well be there. Some spam just doesn't get through and is lost in the aether (I prefer the archaic spelling of this word). Anna from a cold wet Sydney, its winter!! On 19/07/11 10:06 PM, ann.humphreys wrote: I get the messages in digest form each day, but I have noticed that some of the messages that are in digest form are missing on the Arachne web site. Can anybody explain why please. Ann Yorkshire UK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 327 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Interesting to see and read about!
Dear Clay, No, no, please, no intent to patronize. I responded in a moment when I was really tired, third long hard day, and shot from the hip, always a mistake. I did send the link to my kids, one of whom is a student in applied mathematics in Goteborg Sweden for an explanation of the phenomenon. Still tired, not sure I can see the relationship between the video and lace, but that's my problem. lrb -Original Message- >From: Clay Blackwell >Sent: Jul 18, 2011 9:34 PM >To: lbuy...@nc.rr.com >Cc: ARACHNE >Subject: Re: [lace] Interesting to see and read about! > >Well yes... that's where I was headed!! And the rhythm that is >established when we're making a nice piece... it doesn't always stay >exactly the same, but changes... Thanks, Liz! I appreciate your note a >lot more than the patronizing one from someone who was sure she knew far >more than the rest of us. > >Clay > >On 7/18/2011 7:03 PM, lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote: >> Wow! That is a cool video. Not sure that I could make a connection to >> lace. Maybe this is what lace would look like if it could dance. >> Liz Redford >> Raleigh, NC, USA >> Clay Blackwell wrote: >>> On some level, I am absolutely sure that this phenomenon has something >>> in common with lacemaking - I just have no idea what it is! >>> *http://tinyurl.com/3ee2eya >>> *Clay* >> - >> To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >> unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >> arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: >> http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 >> > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: >http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace Guild Website update
Jean THANK YOU for the link to the gallery of Bedfordshire laces. They are marvelous!. Lorelei Halley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] MP3 Player case
It looks good Daphne, and certainly unique:-) I certainly would have some sort of ribbon or cord attached to wear it, making it much better to use that way. Sue T In sunny Dorset but where the wind is a tad over keen Hello I have just made a MP3 Player case. The lace design is my own, so if you wish to see it its on my Webshots page in Arachne 2003. I do not know wether to leave it as it is and use it when I put the player away or add a chain or ribbon to wear it round my neck. It is lined with satin ribbon and a thin ribbon for the gussets. Click the link below to see it. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563012808pPQaZY Daphne Rainy Norfolk Uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] MP3 case
It worked on my Mac too Ilske!! Sue in a damp East Yorkshire UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Royal lace
I wonder how many actual yards or meters of lace had to be used to cut up what they needed to assemble to whole dress. Thanks for posting the photos. Janice http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/articles/weddinglace.html I have just read that the wedding dress will be on display at Buckingham Palace from next Saturday - I doubt if I'll have time to go but I hope that anyone who does will report back about the lace on the skirt and train. I've yet to see a photo that really shows this well. Jean> Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] MP3 case
The link does work! you just have to move on to the third page Brenda On 19 Jul 2011, at 16:29, Daphne Martin wrote: > Hello > Sorry the link I put in my last message does`nt work. Does anyone know how > to get a direct link to my page please?? > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] MP3 case
On my MAC it worked Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] MP3 case
Hello Sorry the link I put in my last message does`nt work. Does anyone know how to get a direct link to my page please?? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] MP3 Player case
Hello I have just made a MP3 Player case. The lace design is my own, so if you wish to see it its on my Webshots page in Arachne 2003. I do not know wether to leave it as it is and use it when I put the player away or add a chain or ribbon to wear it round my neck. It is lined with satin ribbon and a thin ribbon for the gussets. Click the link below to see it. http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563012808pPQaZY Daphne Rainy Norfolk Uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace caps from French Provence
Another of my favourite bloggers wrote about old costumes worn in French Provence: http://willows95988.typepad.com/tongue_cheek/2011/07/provencal-clothing-1800s.html There are some lovely lace caps. Enjoy, Pene PS I've uploaded to Webshots photos of my 4 entries to the competition in last weekend's Lace Exhibition in Pärnu, Estonia. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] White dresses for debutantes
One period of time that has always intrigued me is the so-called Regency period. Or during the Victorian era when young girls were presented at court to the reigning monarch. The young girls of upper society would traditionally wear long white ballgown dresses with trains & tiaras, etc. If I had lived in that period & I'd been presented at court, I think my white dress might have been worn again as a wedding gown. Isn't this a possibility of the origin of white wedding dresses? Unfortunately the year I was born Queen Elizabeth discontinued the practice of being presented at court. I tried to find out when debutantes were first presented at court & found this article: http://www.hrp.org.uk/KensingtonPalace/stories/exhibitions/introductiontothedebutantes.aspx which mentions that it was a 200 year old tradition. Does anybody know who & when it started? I remember watching the TV series called "Love in a Cold Climate" (1980) based on Nancy Mitford's books & reading them shortly after getting married in 1981 & was then a novice lacemaker. Pene in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Missing mail
I get the messages in digest form each day, but I have noticed that some of the messages that are in digest form are missing on the Arachne web site. Can anybody explain why please. Ann Yorkshire UK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 327 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Royal lace
Thank you for that Jean. It lookss very intricate and time consuming to put it all together - makes you wonder if it would have been quicker to make the motifs by hand! Brenda On 19 Jul 2011, at 09:26, Jean Leader wrote: > David has now added some Javascript magic to my web page about the lace > museum in Caudry, France and the lace that decorated the Duchess of > Cambridge's wedding dress. Click on the button below the detail of the > Sophie Hallette lace and the mock-up of how it was used at the neckline of > the dress, and this will highlight a section of the bows and flowers in the > these pictures and the dress itself. > > http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/articles/weddinglace.html Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace Guild website update
Dear all, I have just updated the Lace Guild website with a new lace gallery - this time it shows some of the Guild's collection of Bedfordshire lace. All these pieces and some more will be on display at the IOLI convention in Bethesda at the beginning of August. http://www.laceguild.org/museum/gallery.html There is also information about what is available from the Guild for anyone planning to go out and make lace in public on National Lacemaking Day on 10th September. http://www.laceguild.org/guild/natlaceday.html And a list of lace days in Britain up to the end of this year. http://www.laceguild.org/events/laceDays.html Jean in wet, grey Glasgow - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Royal lace
Dear all, David has now added some Javascript magic to my web page about the lace museum in Caudry, France and the lace that decorated the Duchess of Cambridge's wedding dress. Click on the button below the detail of the Sophie Hallette lace and the mock-up of how it was used at the neckline of the dress, and this will highlight a section of the bows and flowers in the these pictures and the dress itself. http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/articles/weddinglace.html I have just read that the wedding dress will be on display at Buckingham Palace from next Saturday - I doubt if I'll have time to go but I hope that anyone who does will report back about the lace on the skirt and train. I've yet to see a photo that really shows this well. Jean --- Jean Leader Glasgow, Scotland j...@q7design.demon.co.uk http://www.jeanleader.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Interesting to see and read about!
Clay, I'm not wishing to patronise at all - DH and I have both demonstrated this to students (with fewer pendulums -pendula? I'm not sure either Brenda), when he as an engineering lecturer and I when teaching physics both many, many years ago. Then we could both account for what was in the video in terms of frequency, period, velocity, length of wire and effect of gravity, plus the dampening effects of air resistance and friction - don't ask me now though as it's all long been hidden away in the part of my brain never to be used again. Lyn's suspicion of maths is to do with the formulae involved in calculating these, but I can't see a lacemaker even wanting to consider it to be anything to do with maths - it's a fascinating and mesmerising. Having said that much of lacemaking is mathematical in many senses - pairs of bobbins, worked on a grid, counting repeats, thickness of threads, estimating length of thread required, etc. But how often do we bother to stop and analyse it like that? In my case rarely - I just enjoy what I'm doing. I totally agree with Brenda in its connection to lace by repeating at different intervals along a length of lace and eventually coming together again. And again, fascinating and mesmerising. Thanks for posting that Clay, I've recorded it so I can watch it and be fascinated again and again. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
