[lace] modify, combine, and create new patterns
See https://kantelier.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/pommegranite/ Jo On that note, teach design along with the lacemaking itself. No young person I know would be satisfied just knowing how to follow existing patterns, or recreating old lace. Teach what's needed to modify, combine, and create new patterns, and we will. -Katelyn Schreyer Here is a better/bigger picture. http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6239775603_188ec0183c_b.jpg Natalie - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Sign of the times
Unlike weaving or spinning, which require a fairly bulky piece of equipment (yes, I know you don't necessarily need a floor standing loom or spinning wheel), the more portable crafts such as crochet, tatting, knitting and needle lace just needle a simple hook, needle, pair of needles, shuttle and some yarn. So they look fairly simple to do (even if they're not). The comment made by many seeing bobbin lacemaking being made is about how complicated it looks, primarily because of the number of bobbins. When they say It looks too complicated for me. How do you know where they all go? How do you know which ones to move?, etc, the majority just don't seem to believe that you only use four at a time. Nor do they believe it's logical, or that there are only two basic stitches just like in knitting. We've just had a new lady join our Monday class. She said she's see it done many times and she's seen the have-a-go pillows. She finally plucked up the courage to ask if she could have a go at a recent demo and now seems to be hooked. Why was she frightened to try the have-a-go pillow? There are lots of reasons why we're not getting many new people starting. Immediately I can think of fear of not succeeding, lack of patience, lack of time, lack of money, lack of the ability to concentrate for long. I'm sure there are many more. How do we get over that? I don't know. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace]
I have also been into the webshots to check it out and upload but its completely different and nothing happening. thumbnails in a long line on black background and even clicking on that changes nothing. I noticed under each photo a small link saying delete this picture, so we have to be careful of loosing what it there, but so far haven't been able to click on and bring any picture up to its full size. Sue T Daphne wrote. Hello everyone I have been trying to upload a picture of a pendant which I was going to ask if anyone knows what it is. It is a teardrop shape with black lace inside. Its all changed since the last time I uploaded the MP3 case. Any ideas very welcome. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] webshots
I should also have said that they seem to be trying to encourage people to pay to upgrade, is this right? Sue T - Original Message - I have also been into the webshots to check it out and upload but its completely different and nothing happening. thumbnails in a long line on black background and even clicking on that changes nothing. I noticed under each photo a small link saying delete this picture, so we have to be careful of loosing what it there, but so far haven't been able to click on and bring any picture up to its full size. Sue T Daphne wrote. Hello everyone I have been trying to upload a picture of a pendant which I was going to ask if anyone knows what it is. It is a teardrop shape with black lace inside. Its all changed since the last time I uploaded the MP3 case. Any ideas very welcome. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] More Determined
Is there any way members of the list can assist you in getting onto Project Runway, such as a letter/email campaign? People making lace on TV seems to be rather common in Great Britain, but not here. I can't recall any kind of lace making on TV that wasn't in an English program. Devon In a message dated 10/14/2011 10:26:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, susierose_89...@yahoo.com writes: Hello to One All! The idea of the demise of lacemaking hurts me to the core. It makes me all that more determined to get on 'Project Runway' . What would happen if they get a designer that can spin the yarn, weave the fabric, make the outfit AND make the lace to go on the outfit! I've been dubbed 'Nevada's Renaissance Woman' by The Nevada Arts Council. When I auditiomed for season 6 of PR Tim Gunn said 'I love your background! I love what you're wearing! I just want to see more!' I was the ONLY designer that got in to the panel with 1 design! (What I was wearing.) You had to have a minimun of 3 derigns to get to the 'green' room. What would happen to our 'love' if a designer was making it on TV? For the love of all things fiber related. Susie Rose (Finlay) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re: Sign of the times - call for action?
I've also been reading the comments on this subject with interest. I took up spinning and weaving in the '80s and when I looked at bobbin lace it seems too delicate for my growing kids and pets to be around. I did not have a room dedicated to my fibre craft so loom, wheel, sewing machine etc resided in the living room. It wasn't until the kids left home that I got my 'weaving room' which eventually nearly took over the house. None of my friends joined me in learning to weave. We were working women with kids and husbands so time was very short. I got up at 5 every morning to weave before going to work. I joined the local weaver's guild and nearly all the members did not have day jobs and few of the working ones had kids. This was the beginning of a time of women juggling family, home and jobs while we thought we were 'liberated'. Today, it is rare for a woman to be stay a home mom or wife so still time for one's own creative journey is short. I think the other reason is that fashion is fleeting. Women don't keep their clothes for any length of time so the idea of spending countless hours creating a trim is just not something they are interested in doing. Cheap imports have taken the appreciation of hand made goods from a lot of consumers. I sure don't see classic clothes woman will be keeping in their wardrobes for years anymore. Darlene Wainwright darlen...@xplornet.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re: Sign of the times - call for action?
Susan Reishus wrote: Quilts make for a fun application, but wearable forms such as jewelry (and there are a few incredible books out there) I was wondering if you could give us some titles of books containing jewelry? I've got basic books and some from the 80s which I purchased from a senior who had stopped doing bobbin lace but haven't bought a book in awhile. I'd love to hear about one doing jewelry. Darlene Wainwright darlen...@xplornet.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Future of lace/was Demise of suppliers
In a message dated 10/14/2011 5:38:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lac...@aol.com writes: Also, with my son, he wants to do patterns that apeal to him. He likes the snakes, and I have made him spider and dragon patterns to do but he will not be caught doing a butterfly or flower. Maybe we need a book tailored for boys as I have not seen any out there. I have decided to take Katelyn's approach and make him patterns from his cartoons and action games. These interest him more even though they are only motifs, and have caught the attention of some of his friends. I think it is more a progression of lacemaking than anything else. If we draw them in with stuff like this, they will become interested in the older designs as an extention. I think it is the only way to increase our numbers and keep out suppliers. I think the idea of having projects especially for boys is a great idea. Bobbin lace is basically weaving, and plaiting, and boys from time immemorial have done leatherwork and other such crafts. Men have also been professional weavers and tapestry makers. There is no need to use the weaving technique only in the service of ruffles and frills. However, I am interested in the comment, if we draw them in with stuff like this, they will become interested in the older designs as an extension. Why is it a goal to have the next generation be interested in older designs? Why can't they adapt lacemaking to their interests and perspective? It is sort of like saying if we let the Impressionists mess around with big globs of paint, then eventually they might progress to painting like the Dutch Masters. I think we have to figure out what it is about lacemaking that would fit in with what younger people want to do and then let them take off with it to realms we cannot imagine. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Sign of the times - call for action?
I second this entirely; having lost 14 pounds during my 4 yr divorce and regained the privilege (!) of shopping with my seventeen yr old daughter in the juniors section, I am appalled by the short term nature of fabrics that, at purchase, seem to be lovely to the touch and a good wear. Two careful hand washes and they're completely pilly and look like I've worn them day and night for months. The nature of fabric has simply changed, along with the idea that there are classic clothes and that such clothes actually last... I have the laura ashley dress that, fifteen years ago, I cut off the lace collar and replaced with my own (made with lots of help from certain folks on this list). I wear it with pride, but the ten years younger mothers of my kids' friends are interested, but more insofar as this demonstrates how much older than them I really am. When my kids were little I could,as I put it, bore them to sleep at naptime with the click click click of my bobbins... they should only be so easy to satisfy now! best carrie, whom roberta donnely tried to help dive back into lace a few years ago, but who knew it would take four years to get my own life back, at least to the extent it's mine currently :-) On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Darlene Wainwright darlen...@xplornet.comwrote: I've also been reading the comments on this subject with interest. I took up spinning and weaving in the '80s and when I looked at bobbin lace it seems too delicate for my growing kids and pets to be around. I did not have a room dedicated to my fibre craft so loom, wheel, sewing machine etc resided in the living room. It wasn't until the kids left home that I got my 'weaving room' which eventually nearly took over the house. None of my friends joined me in learning to weave. We were working women with kids and husbands so time was very short. I got up at 5 every morning to weave before going to work. I joined the local weaver's guild and nearly all the members did not have day jobs and few of the working ones had kids. This was the beginning of a time of women juggling family, home and jobs while we thought we were 'liberated'. Today, it is rare for a woman to be stay a home mom or wife so still time for one's own creative journey is short. I think the other reason is that fashion is fleeting. Women don't keep their clothes for any length of time so the idea of spending countless hours creating a trim is just not something they are interested in doing. Cheap imports have taken the appreciation of hand made goods from a lot of consumers. I sure don't see classic clothes woman will be keeping in their wardrobes for years anymore. Darlene Wainwright darlen...@xplornet.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 -- Carrie carolyn.sala...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] More Determined
On Sat Oct 15th, 2011 6:18 AM PDT dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:Is there any way members of the list can assist you in getting onto Project Runway, such as a letter/email campaign?People making lace on TV seems to be rather common in Great Britain, but not here. I can't recall any kind of lace making on TV that wasn't in an English program.Devon In a message dated 10/14/2011 10:26:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, susierose_89...@yahoo.com writes:Hello to One All!The idea of the demise of lacemaking hurts me to the core. It makes me all that more determined to get on 'Project Runway' . What would happen if they get a designer that can spin the yarn, weave the fabric, make the outfit AND make the lace to go on the outfit! I've been dubbed 'Nevada's Renaissance Woman' by The Nevada Arts Council. When I auditiomed for season 6 of PR Tim Gunn said 'I love your background! I love what you're wearing! I just want to see more!' I was the ONLY designer that got in to the panel with 1 design! (What I was wearing.) You had to have a minimun of 3 derigns to get to the 'green' room. What would happen to our 'love' if a designerwas making it on TV?For the love of all things fiber related.Susie Rose (Finlay) Hello to One All! I have to get on the show by my own talent. NOW once I'm on the show, that's when public response will come into play, big time! I believe it was season 5 where every designer was picked by a design house. There is a 28 page contract that includes a confidentally clause. I can't even tell my family that I'll be on the show. But I have to make arrangements for my daughter for the month of June. That's when the entire season is shot, sans fashion week. That's in Sep. If I'm in I'll tell everyone to watch to see if I made until the trailers start. I'm 1 of the few designers that's a conplete package: designing, pattern making and sewing. I had a great teacher, my Mom. She sewed for the Vanderbilts, Betty Drake (Cary Grants wife), Elizabeth Taylor and the like. All of what I'm wearing will be my own design. Why would I want to promote some other designer when I'm there to promote me. I even found a 'cobbler' that will make shoes boots to my specs. :-D Life happens while I'm putting my portfolio together. The county wants to tear down my home...BUT they'll won't make us homeless. They're helping us to replace our home on ovr property. Stress I are really good friends. For the love of fiber! Susie Rose (Tag line for PR: My name is Susie Rose. Remember roses has thorns.) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lace jewelry
Hello All! Just to let you know--Deborah Beever will be teaching a lace jewelry workshop in Pittsburgh next month. Her work is stunning utilizes metallic threads. If you are interested in attending this event sponsored by PLG, please contact me privately for details. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] future of lacemaking/Steampunk
Good Lord. Why are we demonstrating at State Fairs when we should be demonstrating at Steampunk events? Am I living in an alternate universe, or what? I searched Steampunk Lace and a lot turned up. I began looking up Steampunk activities in my area and am amazed. This week the New York Nineteenth Century Society which is composed of YOUNG PEOPLE despite the name (talk about misleading names) is having an event about corsets in a bar. Their website indicates that they have a Victorian handsewing circle in which people are reputedly lace making. _http://nineteenthcenturysociety.org/articles/_ (http://nineteenthcenturysociety.org/articles/) I urge everyone to investigate Steampunk. I am putting the Wikepedia definition at the end of this email. But this has tremendous potential. For one thing, most of the world's current supply of lace was produced for exactly this era. Also lace books currently being sold have patterns for accessories that haven't been worn since this era. Lacemaking fits in so well with Steampunk that it is incredible. The entire ethos of the weird 19th century is a perfect match with lace making history. It would not be hard at all to create a lacemaking persona for Steampunk events. In fact, arguably Tatty Remlage of the Bulletin, publication of the International Old Lacers already is one. We just missed Steampunk Week, a total immersion week planned by, I kid you not, Lord Hastings R. Bobbins! I am going out of my mind! Devon Steampunk is a sub-genre of _science fiction_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction) , _fantasy_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy) , _alternate history_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_history) , and _speculative fiction_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculative_fiction) that came into prominence during the 1980s and early 1990s._[1]_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk#cite_note-Clute-Grant-0) Steampunk involves a setting where _steam power_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_power) is still widely usedâusually _Victorian era_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era) _Britain_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) âthat incorporates elements of either science fiction or fantasy. Works of steampunk often feature _anachronistic_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism) _technology_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology) or futuristic innovations as Victorians may have _envisioned_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrofuturism) them, based on a Victorian perspective on _fashion_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion) , _culture_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture) , _architectural style_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_style) , _art_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art) , etc. This technology may include such fictional machines as those found in the works of _H. G. Wells_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells) and _Jules Verne_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne) . Other examples of steampunk contain alternative history-style presentations of such technology as _lighter-than-air_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighter-than-air) _airships_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airships) , _analog computers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer) , or such digital _mechanical computers_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_computer) as _Charles Babbage_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage) and _Ada Lovelace_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace) 's _Analytical engine_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_engine) . Various modern utilitarian objects have been _modded_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modding) by individual artisans into a pseudo-Victorian mechanical steampunk style, and a number of visual and musical artists have been described as steampunk. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] future of lacemaking/Steampunk
Lord Hastings Bobbins does several events, one of which is TeslaCon in November (sold out, I'm afraid). However, as a presenter at TeslaCon, I've gotten a steak peek at the schedule of events, and it includes an area set aside as a Knitting Parlor (after the ladies of TeslaCon appropriated one by force in the hotel lobby last year), a panel on Steampunk Embroidery, and an class on Bustlemaking. Steampunk is often described as Victorian Science Fiction. But one of the most important parts of Steampunk is the idea that things should be beautiful in the way that modern manufactured products are not. Why build a time machine if you can't put polished wood panelling and bronze filigrees all over it? Why make a death ray if you can't etch scrollwork and inlay mother of pearl into the handle? And And yes, I will be presenting at TeslaCon on lacemaking. For those of you who are interested, here are some pictures of what I have been working on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68691357@N07/ Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Good Lord. Why are we demonstrating at State Fairs when we should be demonstrating at Steampunk events? We just missed Steampunk Week, a total immersion week planned by, I kid you not, Lord Hastings R. Bobbins! I am going out of my mind! Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: More Determined
The challenge with Project Runway is that you are given guidelines, pre-existing goods, and a pressured timeline to make a garment. I haven't followed it closely, as it frustrated me from the workmanship to varying lack of design aptitude, IMO. When you add in an element of making the actual textiles and embellishments from scratch, it becomes overwhelming for the designer in the projects intensity, and frankly would make for a boring show for many to watch. I come from that purist perspective, but you burn out over the decades and one needs to make a living...people aren't typically willing to invest the extra money nor wait for pieces. It appears to me that people are chosen not only for design potential, but also personalities that will make the show interesting. Of note, many are criticized for repeating techniques or styles in their design, so if every item had lace, that could be considered too much repetition. I think the best way to get the word out, is for someone to focus on hosting a show. That can be someone versed in their own techniques, and/or adding in others with specialities. Venues like PBS or HGTV would be places to start. Time wise, again it becomes a crunch, as it is typically ideal to show an item being started, and featured in various stages, so you would be making a minimum of 3 pieces, one of which would be finished. That is a lot of work for the average lacemaker. Then you begin to look at how many resources you have to tap, and flying in people from other countries, and is there a point where you would tap out features within a year or two? I don't want to be negative, but it has to be viewed from the lacing side, to the consumer and what the market will bear, and getting all past a producer and director, who may not see lace as an appealing venue, meaning there is a limited market. Sometimes it is not what you are selling, but how you do it and getting it to the market place. Many lace suppliers rely upon tapping pre-existing interest or via retro fairs, but it truly needs to be shared with those who don't know it exists, or are interested and don't know where to find instruction and supplies. This is the same conundrum that many artists have suffered from; where one needs an representative that markets and sells product or gets the word out, but then what it the take, as it is so labor intensive? The simple analogy would be to think of Elizabeth Zimmerman, who began a series of PBS shows on knitting, I believe in the 60-70's. I never saw them, and who woulda thunk that it would have subsidized an increase in knitting interest, followed by a marketplace where fabrics became scarce, but yarn was widely available. Threads are there, whether you like them or not, as people are doing forms of needlework, from cross stitch to hardanger and embroidery, etc. In my area, she is making as much money as ever, so the thread market is there in whatever way or to whatever degree. That is my idea for the day, that could make a difference. Erica Wilson created a needlepoint empire, and Laurel Burch and Mary Englebreit come to mind, though not within needlework per se, but Laurel Burch did foray into fabric. You have to be or find someone who looks passable on TV with a decent voice and warmth, who can interview people, and those will probably need a 3 month heads up to work their feature, and then you ask how they can be covered as they won't make money, other than a token payment to visit, unless someone wants to sell theirs. Most people fight to get on TV so they can sell their goods, supplies, books or public speaking/teaching. It is the same thing that natural health struggles with in this economy. You can potentially heal something with a $3-10 bottle of herbs, and how do you educate and let people know when pharmaceuticals charge ten to a hundred times the original cost, so have funds to advertise...people often don't know that they can heal themselves without going to a doctor, the same as some can teach themselves and order supplies via the internet, etc. Perhaps someone with more focus upon history, can educate and interview, vs. having to make it themselves. Then how many have the energy to do a show that can easily take 80 hours a week, and end up not doing much of the thing they love the most, lace? As some of the perhaps more mature lacers who may have the most knowledge, really up for such an energy investment? Maybe Jeri is interested? :) Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Katelynn - Steampunk
Hello to One All! Katelynn - Absoulutely Brillant! (I was plesantly surprised when my cheapie cell phone was able to open the picture!) I've been making a black/gold torchon trim that I really wasn't happy with. Last year I decided after I get another 2 yards, I was going to offer it at my Esty store for Steampunk or reenactors. The pillow hangs on my wall gathering dust. I also have the supplies patterns to make Victorian clothing. Think about the movie, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That is Steampunk. Hugs, Susie Rose - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Project Runway - A Lace Challenge (and other controversial comments)
Imagine a Lace Challenge on Project Runway. Contestants stand outside a mysterious room from whence comes clacking noises (remember the wrestling challenge?). Open the door and you see about fifty bobbinlace makers. And they could come from USA, England, Brazil, Spain, Russia, all over. Especially the last three where lacemaking is very much alive and well. Just look at the LaceNews YouTube collection, these countries break records in videos. The contestents are assigned a team of lacemakers with which to work, and in 1-3 days come up with a handmade lace design. As an alternative, they could all be taken to the Met or somewhere to look at great examples from their collections. This has been on my list of top ten desires for several years. How could it be accomplished? Regarding the discussion about the demise of lacemaking, which I've been following. I relate to this in the beginnings of the Minnesota Lace Society in the late 70's. It was an organization of very strong-willed women, mostly in their 20's, out to make the best adventure we could, while at the same time working, going to school, and we were not distracted by the Internet or Social Media, or gaming or anything like that. We had yet to get careers, and were only thinking about families. Lacemaking offered a wonderful, broad challenge. For my two cents, lacemaking in America is not making use of the Internet like it should. How can you attract young people if you don't offer them the learning opportunities they have grown up with? I hear too much discussion about how to get books published, and distribution of magazines. Every magazine in the country is under pressure from what you can just get on the Web, and let's face it; even FiberArts just tanked. Compare and contrast this with countries like Spain and Brazil and Russia, where there was always a broad professional industry well into the late 20th century. The skills are being passed to the children as a matter of course. Somehow I don't think the computer age has taken hold there quite as well as it has in the US. This is not derrogatory, I sometimes teach in Lisbon and the University of Barcelona, and am becoming more familiar with that part of the world. You wonder why things are dying in the US. We have no professional tradition, no incentive to pass skills onto the children. And what they can find on the net are not centers of attraction for their interest. This has got to change, and it is the primary reason that I'm putting so much effort into internet resources with the LaceNews sites (more will come). And you know, every time I see photos of Americans at lace conventions, etc. - we all look so old. Including me. The advance of computers will kill lacemaking far more efficiently than anything we can do. Another interesting thing, in trying to list all the Lace Days in England, it's fairly rare that a group will have a web site - a little better in the US, but not much. Lacemakers, who should be passing on their skills, or even just learning them because they are now retired, and have the time, are not always computer literate. We need to fix this. We need to make it easy to join an organization (Paypal Lace Guild!!!). We need to move the discussion into the present, not speculate about the past. Make this a special topic in some of the upcoming lace conventions, where ever they are. Funny - scuba diving is another of my passions, and organizations like PADI are talking exactly this way - how to move into the computer age. Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Susan - More Determined
Hello to One All! I understand the particulars of PR the strict gvidelines the designers need to adheir to for each challenge. Playing the same note will get 'auf' the show. (When I have the time I make challenges for myself. Slips of paper go into a jar I pull 1 out shop my extensive fabric stash. And start working. But something they do on the website is let the pvblic know whose clothes the designers are wearing. That's where I can showcase the other designs I'm capable of. Thats where my knowledge in other areas will prevail. That may or may not be in the challenges. There are 2 forms of fashion: off the rack coutvre. I make both. I KNOW the industry jvst want to get my designs more out there. In addition to getting more people interested in fiber arts. And get out of the 'by appointment only' mode. I make good money on 1 of a kind couture. Not every millionaire or billionaire wants their wife look like a Hollywood trollup. But its a way to get exposed to a wider audience. Hugs, Susie Rose - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Sign of the times - call for action? (long)
I have realised that as the years progressed I really didn't know what I was buying at the start of my lace equipment purchasing career. I bought what I was told rather than what worked for me. The teacher that I had believed in 7 beads to a bobbin (east midlands) and liked very long, wide bobbins. She also liked very domed pillows. I've discovered that I like thin bobbins that are neither long nor short and I am a 5 bead person. I also prefer the feel of ebony (due to the fact that wood to me is to the touch like fingers down a chalk board unless it's waxed or sealed and ebony is better to the touch for me) and I love bone because I can have it thinner for the same weight as wood so more bobbins on the pillow. I like flatter pillows as they seem to work better for mein tensioning (domed for me tension too tight, it's just the way I work, nothing else). So, I've spent 20 something years gradually replacing everything I bought at the start. At this rate I'll never finish - a bit like painting the forth bridge. My bobbin a month from the wonderful Chris Parsons is not going to make him a fortune but all the other people who have signed up for the bobbin a month may keep him going. Jane is right that that those with the money are those coming into the craft at retirement and who hopefully have may productive years ahead of them to make lace, but I also feel strongly that children are hit too hard with school work and should be encouraged in their creativity through craft and skills but that's something I'll have to sort out when the revolution comes. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demise of suppliers
There is also a very sad byproduct of the age of lacemakers increasing which we have seen in the military modeling world. If those coming in new to the craft are older with more disposible income they bring with them purchasing power. I believe that suppliers should make a profit - it is a thank you to them for finding the things that I need and supplying them. However, in the modeling world we have seen the cost of supplies start to increase year on year faster than inflation. I understand that if you are only producing a small amount of something it costs more per unit than if you make thousands but a model which cost £10 5 years ago now costs £40. Why? Because people will pay for it. We went to EuroMilitare (equivilant of the Xmas lace maker fair that used to be at the NEC for size and venue). There was fantastic model on display that was limited to 250 and only available at the show. I was in love and really wanted it. Hubby went to find out the cost and it was more than we were intending spending on the whole day. Hubby wanted to still buy it but I wouldn't because it was inflated and I wasn't going to play. My bocoytt was a complete waste of time because they sold out in a matter of hours. But I made my point to myself. I am worried that if the money is there prices will rocket. However, I don't think that many of our suppliers have caught up with inflation. The first pair of bone bobbins I bought in 1989 were £16 each and this is not far off what we often pay today. Books are more reasonable and far more available today. I am paying the same today for books as I did for similar ones over 20 years ago. In fact, many of the books I bought then are still available and cost the same now as then. But I do still worry. Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Spreading the word
So, we have a lot of ways to increase the lace making population. I interject here the significant problem in the US, that most Americans have never seen lace being made, donât know what itâs about, and donât know anyone who makes lace. Increase the variety of places where we demonstrate. In other words, Make Lace In Public. Engage knitters. I am amazed at how many lace makers also knit. Advertise. Often meetings and demonstrations can be advertised for free. Bring in the children. Find out where they are learning crafts and skills, and offer to teach them in a way they enjoy. Make beginning classes, the first class, free, or almost so. Wear lace. That way you can talk about it. Whoâs writing the book on lace on T-shirts? Demonstrate where the young are. Look into Steampunk. Ask your kids, or grandkids. Think of ways of making lace engaging to young people. Designs, add color. Anyone want to add? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spreading the word
You know it's odd that statement Today I attended Pudsey Lace Fair, Jane Partridge was there and we ended up chatting about lace (now I wonder why LOL) anyway, one item we were discussing was how many ways one can wear the lace from a tiara it could be worn as cuffs on a tshirt for instance. Tiny motifs can be made into brooches, earrings, pendants etc, and you don't have to worry about it going through the washing machine!! You can stitch it onto hankies, tshirt fronts, shirts etc... Once we have the thought that lace can be worn, the ideas are as large as our imagination. Try giving it to a friend, young relation, old relation anyone who has ever expressed an interest in lace... tell them about your closest teacher... We may revive this hobby yet!! Sue in East Yorkshire On 15 Oct 2011, at 23:04, Lyn Bailey wrote: Wear lace. That way you can talk about it. Whoâs writing the book on lace on T-shirts? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spreading the word
A woman I met at IOLI convention washes the lace attached permanently to the T shirt in the wash, then hangs to dry. When I was doing my thing as a barrister, (trial attorney in the US) I plunked my lace handkerchief into the chest pocket. And I have a book that has lace that is supposed to go on the lapels of a jacket. Then there's lace scarves made out of laceweight yarn. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it was a beautiful fall day, cool, breezy, brilliant sun. Vast improvement over the rain of the last 3 days. -Original Message- From: Sue Duckles Sent: Oct 15, 2011 6:18 PM To: Lyn Bailey Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Spreading the word You know it's odd that statement Today I attended Pudsey Lace Fair, Jane Partridge was there and we ended up chatting about lace (now I wonder why LOL) anyway, one item we were discussing was how many ways one can wear the lace from a tiara it could be worn as cuffs on a tshirt for instance. Tiny motifs can be made into brooches, earrings, pendants etc, and you don't have to worry about it going through the washing machine!! You can stitch it onto hankies, tshirt fronts, shirts etc... Once we have the thought that lace can be worn, the ideas are as large as our imagination. Try giving it to a friend, young relation, old relation anyone who has ever expressed an interest in lace... tell them about your closest teacher... We may revive this hobby yet!! Sue in East YorkshireOn 15 Oct 2011, at 23:04, Lyn Bailey wrote: Wear lace. That way you can talk about it. Whoââ¬â¢s writing the book on lace on T-shirts? /lynrbailey@desu pernet.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] More Determined
From: Rosemary Horr rja...@msn.com Good day all, Check out Janice Blair's site: www.jblace.com. At the bottom of the page is the link to Janice discussing lace on a Chicago news show in 2008. Lurker,Rosemary Flagstaff, AZ I can't recall any kind of lace making on TV that wasn't in an English program. Devon Thanks Rosemary for the plug. I seem to remember that Carol Duval had a lacemaker on her tv craft program once, but craft programs on HGTV seem to have disappeared, unless I am missing the time slots. Today most of the programs seem to be about house buying, not crafts. My interview was by a guy who liked to interview people with different and interesting hobbies. I only got one query from the program and never heard from the woman again. I was trying to plug out convention in Rockford but I think they cut those references. As a designer of simple patterns I would like more ideas of what people want to see. It is hard to come up with ideas. What things do boys like? How about an Angry Bird. Ideas please. BTW, the halloween cat pattern on my website has some pinholes missing on the right cheek. A lacemaker doing it caught the missing pins. Ruth Budge gave me advice on why they disappeared when exporting the design from Lace RXP and when my DD can get round to it, the pattern will be corrected. Easy enough for any lacemaker to put in the missing pinholes if they follow the picture of the lace. Good luck to Susie on Project Runway. Let us know when to start looking for you, but please don't be the bitchy one. I always root for the underdog. Not sure I like any of the 3 left in it so far. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Cottier Bobbin
Oops. You are absolutely correct. I have no excuses. Laurie - Original Message - From: Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net To: Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Cottier Bobbin If his book was published in the early 1900s, wasn't he a late 19th century or early 20th century manufacturer (not early 19th century)? Just puzzling, not criticizing. Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Halloween cat pattern
Hi, My daughter has replaced the pricking for the Halloween cat on the Pattern Gallery of my website. It is also in the LACE newsletter, so you can download a useable pricking at www.jblace.com I hope to be posting the photos of my lace entries from the IOLI convention soon. I won a first with my needlelace Paul Revere in the Technical and third with my bobbin lace Santa Maria, which also won Popular Vote. I got my Bulletin today so I can now do a bit of boasting. :-) Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Webshots
I have added three photos to the Webshots page and had no problem with them. If you click on each picture they will enlarge. This link should go to the second page of my album. http://community.webshots.com/album/149126673AmIpMo?start=12 One is the Halloween cat and the others are my winning entries at IOLI convention. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demise of suppliers
 Yes, Jean the important question is young people taking up the craft â where are they? We had a successful lace demo on 9/25/2011, where 21 lace âfishâ where made by community members attending a Fall Fest.   Boys, girls and adults lined up to make their own lace âfishâ. Used colored threads, let them choose their own bead color for the eye, most finished in 15-20 minutes.  Siblings stood and watched and then made their own.  After watching their sibling do their fish, the next sibling was quicker. We have new lacers coming in November for beginning lessons â ages will vary. One person is a middle school teacher who plans on teaching bobbin lace to students during âstudy hallâ because the kids are asking to learn a hand craft.  As she laced her own fish, she felt that it was a craft to enhance math skills.  So instead of crocheting or knitting, she wants to learn bobbin lace to teach to her students.  So I will help her out with this endeavor.  This teacher stated that âHome Educationâ is coming back to the schoolsâ¦â¦whyâ¦.kids do not know how to cook which may be a reason behind our obesity levels due to fast food.  So the schools are looking at âHome Economicsâ again as a âlife skill classâ.   I do not have kids so I was not aware that âHome Ecâ is coming back.  The home education teachers are LOOKING for a HAND CRAFT to teach the students during the section on sewing.  So maybe we can approach teachers to ask what their needs are.  Maybe we can teach some teachers our craft to share with students and then once exposed, these students will join our groups and purchase those supplies.    Also, I was approached by a community college teacher stating that she was looking for a hand craft to teach as part of a back to basics for relaxation to counter the high tech world that students have these days.   I started lace making after seeing 8 bobbin lace pillows with 8 different types of lace in progress on the pillows at a âFiber Artsâ exhibit at a community college (1982).  My lace teacher found a community college arts teacher that became interested in her lace making techniques and invited her to exhibit during the 3 day show.  Maybe we can reach out and expose school and community college teachers to our âHand Craftâ?  Chris.in Cleveland, Ohio area where it is a very windy fall day!  On 14 Oct 2011, at 08:07, Jean Nathan wrote: One of the problems is that once you've got your basic pillow, sufficient bobbins and (usually too many) books (for you to complete everything in it you want to), really the only thing you NEED is thread. And that won't keep a supplier in business. They rely, not only on newbies, but those of us who already have the basic supplies WANTING extra pillows, patterns, books, bobbins and other equipment .. Then there's the question are there sufficient young people taking up the craft and buying the supplies to replace those of us in our dotage who will eventually give up because we can no longer cope or go to join other lacemakers on a cloud. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Chris Brill-Packard - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Vermeer's Lacemaker on Exhibition at the Fitzwilliam Museum
I just published an announcement of the Lacemaker exhibition on LaceNews, along with some extensive comments. Art historians rarely know anything about lacemaking, and so like to expound on the color and delicacy of the work. Take another look, from a lacemaker's perspective. Laurie http://lacenew.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lace jewelry
I will second Susan's comment on Deborah's gorgeous Mirecourt jewelry. It's stunning! Boy, do I wish I could attend the workshop! She's also a great teacher, a lot of fun, very knowledgeable, very clear at explaining (and patient for the ones who don't catch on so quickly). It will be a wonderful weekend for anyone who goes. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hello All! Just to let you know--Deborah Beever will be teaching a lace jewelry workshop in Pittsburgh next month. Her work is stunning utilizes metallic threads. If you are interested in attending this event sponsored by PLG, please contact me privately for details. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Jewelry Designing
Sorry, but my jewelry books are packed. One comes to mind that was exceptional, but I cannot even remember the title, and I think it is OOP, but was from Germany? No help, I know. Find a motif you like, or draw one, and make it into something. Don't forget wire, and look at beading stores/magazines and fashion magazines (or the 'net). As far as fashion design, I am familiar as that is my education and I have done it for almost 50 years. There are major department stores whose buyers will take private collections, and things like the shopping channels. Then you need to be ready with volume. I digress, even though initially it was about weaving and lace made from scratch for garments. In one's life, one does many things to benefit all, and at times oneself, and it always changes in various ways. Ultimately, lace will live on as it has, as people can find thread, make bobbins, and draw designs if they have to. It is just nice to have supplies available and for others to be able to make a living, also. Making fine thread of high quality though, I am not up for. LOL I am dropping out of the subject, since I have already written lengthy messages. :) Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
