RE: [lace] Rosa Libre
Thanks for the compliment and I do wish that I was in the same class as Robin and Tamara!!! I was also thinking about the decline in the interest in the lace the other day and wondering if anything could be done about this decline. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. There are still a few of us playing with Rosa Libre. I was told (but haven't checked the accuracy) that Cathy Belleville seems to have left lace altogether. It's such a shame as she was such an excellent teacher and designed some beautiful lace (not just in RL). I know that Arachneans Tamara Duvall and Jeanette Fischer have designed pieces (especially Jeanette), as have I. I think at least Jeanette is still designing RL (and so am I). Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Rosa Libre
Maybe, as some people are still doing some design work, the way to spark interest would be for those designers to send patterns for publication in the various lace magazines - several will only publish things that are not published elsewhere, but the wider the audience, the more likely others are to take it up. I think all of the magazines are dependent on people sending patterns and articles in, so it would also make for an easier time for the editors! Whilst on the subject of patterns, I know that some Arachnes have used the free patterns on the Young Lacemaker page of The Lace Guild's site. As with other publications, the editor is in need of patterns, which are suitable in this case for younger lacemakers (both in age and ability), but spreading out beyond braid and Torchon. As far as I know, the only stipulation where patterns are concerned is that you have the permission of the copyright holder to submit them (not a problem if it is your own design - you retain the copyright), you don't have to be a member - but no doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong! In message 8489E27EBD014343A2C66E1D55248D1F@user9ad4f8bfb9, jeanette jeane...@maxitec.co.za writes Thanks for the compliment and I do wish that I was in the same class as Robin and Tamara!!! I was also thinking about the decline in the interest in the lace the other day and wondering if anything could be done about this decline. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] Rosa Libre
Dear Jeanette, et al, The easiest way to stop the decline is to put the book back in print. My 'stockist' says it's out of print, and she's out of stock. If you can't get the book, you go on to other laces where you can get the book, especially when there's only one. This is where being able to print on demand comes in so handy. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the weather is to be perfect today. Sun, high of 79F 18.5C Jeanette Fischer wrote: Thanks for the compliment and I do wish that I was in the same class as Robin and Tamara!!! I was also thinking about the decline in the interest in the lace the other day and wondering if anything could be done about this decline. Robin P. wrote: There are still a few of us playing with Rosa Libre. My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] rosa libre
Hello Devon is right. laceioli is a good place to post photos of your lace or your original patterns. We already have original patterns from some of our members, and would be delighted to have more. If members ask, I could start a group for rosa libre. It would then contain keywords that search engines could find. If search engines can find it, people WILL find it! Lorelei Halley http://laceioli.ning.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Rosa Libre
For those who don't know what we're talking about, it's described in a post to Arachne in 2004 here: http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg05385.html I'm sure someone can come up with a web page with photos of it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] rosa libre
http://t-n-lace.net/rosalibre/ http://ebookee.org/Rosalibre-Bobbin-Lace_318949.html The first is Tamara's, the 2nd is the actual book. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] rosa libre
The book itself it not available for free download, at least I would be very surprised if so. The author is careful to point out copyright, and use of the book by individuals. I had a copy once, and sold it. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.comwrote: http://t-n-lace.net/rosalibre/ http://ebookee.org/Rosalibre-Bobbin-Lace_318949.html The first is Tamara's, the 2nd is the actual book. Lorelei -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Rosa Libre
I tried to get hold of the book but it is out of print and doesn't seem to be anywhere accessible. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ From: robinl...@socal.rr.com robinl...@socal.rr.com To: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk; Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 4:41 Subject: Re: [lace] Rosa Libre Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: For some obscure reason Rosa Libre popped into my head this morning. Doesn't seem to have been any mention of it since 2008. Is anyone making this type of lace?- There are still a few of us playing with Rosa Libre. snipped Robin P. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] rosa libre
Unfortunately, the book link is either asking for me to sign up to a site or the direct download says that the book has been removed due to copyright. L PS Tamara's work is as always, simply beautiful Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com snipped http://t-n-lace.net/rosalibre/ http://ebookee.org/Rosalibre-Bobbin-Lace_318949.html The first is Tamara's, the 2nd is the actual book. Lorelei - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] re: Rosalibre comments
First off, Jeanette is much too modest. I've seen pictures of her designs and they're beautiful and very creative. As for publishing designs, there's a problem: imagine being given a pricking of a complex Milanese picture such as Pat Read or Louise Colgan have created, with no knowledge whatsoever of the techniques of Milanese. Or a lovely Beds pattern with no guipure experience. Now what? Cathy invented RL with a number of unique techniques, and if you haven't learned RL already you won't know what to do with the design. When I have taught original patterns I have referred people to Cathy's book. This is done just like the in pattern yyy (or it's just like that with the following differences). Since it is/was Cathy's lace revolution and she taught for just a few years, only a modest number of people are privy to those secrets at this time. Publishing a simple daffodil flower would require publishing a whole lot of accompanying information on how to do it, which could easily infringe Cathy's copyright and/or take up far too much space in a magazine. Tamara was asked to ! publish some of her RL but refused for this reason. So the only people who could use the published design are the ones who already know RL, and that won't widen the knowledge base. I have taught RL to each of the 3 lace groups to which I belong, because that's teaching friends. I was asked once to teach at a more formal workshop (the Winter Lace Conference), but because the techniques are her invention, that's getting into infringeing on Cathy's intellectual property (morally, if not legally). I am not comfortable with that. No matter how much a few of us enjoy it, I'm afraid Cathy's revolution may be a quirky lace that fewer and fewer people bother with. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] re: Rosalibre comments
No matter how much a few of us enjoy it, I'm afraid Cathy's revolution may be a quirky lace that fewer and fewer people bother with. It is too bad that there doesn't seem to be some way that Cathy could make her book available as an internet download, or self-publish via the one at a time publishing facilities that have been discussed so that she could earn some money for her intellectual property. Has anybody talked to her about this? If she doesn't want to bother with it, perhaps she wouldn't mind if someone like Robin photocopied the book for classes and sent her some small per copy fee. The purpose of the copy right law, in the US, at least, is to encourage the development of intellectual property to benefit everyone by giving the creator a short time monopoly on it so that there is a financial incentive to create intellectual property. It is a shame when the impact is the creation of intellectual property that is then withheld from all those who would like to have access to it. This is the exact opposite of the purpose of the US copyright law. Devon PS. I know a folk singer who actually puts on his music that he knows that people are going to play his music, sing it and share the recordings at folk gatherings, and if someone records the song he doesn't mind, but suggests that they send him $2 and gives his address. I think it is a nice solution to the situation where everyone wants to do the right thing. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
