RE: [lace] conventions
Are there any conventions that are scheduled for Minnesota in the next year or two? Anyone know? Curious minds want to know Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:34 PM To: L.Snyder Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] conventions Oh you jaded convention habituees! The convention I went to before this one was in Harrisburg. 2005. As far as I know, no totebag. So my one and only is a treasure, now holding the sweater I'm knitting. Works very well. If I had more, I'd probably find a use for them. Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, at the end of a perfect summer day. Not too hot, slight breeze, total sun. -Original Message- From: L.Snyder l.sny...@aceweb.com Sent: Aug 11, 2011 4:31 PM To: post to Arachne lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] conventions Hi there :-) My enquiring mind wants to know... What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these conventions? I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for the fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it. How about you? Lauren - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] conventions
I use tote bags to organize my spinning, knitting, lace, rug making etc...I have TONS of wool, alpaca etc...lots of purchased yarns etc...well those tote bags hold it all. I love to use any eco bag I can find to use for such purpose. Can NEVER have enough bags. Angel -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of L.Snyder Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:31 PM To: post to Arachne Subject: [lace] conventions Hi there :-) My enquiring mind wants to know... What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these conventions? I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for the fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it. How about you? Lauren - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] conventions
Happy Dance!!! Cearbhael -Original Message- From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:clayblackw...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:02 PM To: cearbh...@mywdo.com Cc: lynrbai...@desupernet.net; 'L.Snyder'; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] conventions Hello Cearbhael!! Are you in luck! The next IOLI convention is in St. Paul, Minnesota next year! The dates are August 4 - 11, 2012. Clay On 8/12/2011 8:54 PM, cearbh...@mywdo.com wrote: Are there any conventions that are scheduled for Minnesota in the next year or two? Anyone know? Curious minds want to know Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:34 PM To: L.Snyder Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] conventions Oh you jaded convention habituees! The convention I went to before this one was in Harrisburg. 2005. As far as I know, no totebag. So my one and only is a treasure, now holding the sweater I'm knitting. Works very well. If I had more, I'd probably find a use for them. Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, at the end of a perfect summer day. Not too hot, slight breeze, total sun. -Original Message- From: L.Snyderl.sny...@aceweb.com Sent: Aug 11, 2011 4:31 PM To: post to Arachnelace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] conventions Hi there :-) My enquiring mind wants to know... What do you all do with the tote bags that you bring home from these conventions? I have 5 now. One has patterns in it. One has my demonstrating kit for the fair. One still has all the stuff I bought at that con in it. How about you? Lauren - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] (lace) Joyce's Poppies photo
Catherine, try the website on less busy times. I got it in at around 10 pm CST (US) figure most Brits are sleeping at that time. ;o))) Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of catherine Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:46 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] (lace) Joyce's Poppies photo Dear Lacemakers I'm getting pretty frustrated reading about David's progress on the Poppies and how wonderful they are, because I've tried about 7/8 times to access the page and keep getting - 'We're Sorry. due to a high volume of page requests, this Webshots page is not available right now' ...etc. How come others have been able to view it and respond to David's email but I cannot! Maybe I'm just trying at the wrong time? Has anyone else had this problem? Many thanks in anticipation. Catherine Barley UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Joyce's Poppies photo
David I am in awe...it is going to be so BEAUTIFUL...I have to get Jean's patterns. Have to have!!! You're the best advert she has LOL!!! Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of David C COLLYER Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:27 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Joyce's Poppies photo Dear Friends, I have just now uploaded a new photo of the progress of Joyce's Poppies showing the corner completed. http://community.webshots.com/album/580394576mpdJqNhttp://community.websho ts.com/album/580394576mpdJqN David in Ballarat, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Artefact of the Month
Dang I get so confused between the guilds. I really should join but which one would be best for me. I hear about the UK Lace Guild and then International Old Lacers...what is the difference...what to join...and what is this program? Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of hottl...@neo.rr.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:26 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Artefact of the Month Hello All! Just received my Artefact email from Lace Guild UK. OMG!!! What a fabulous piece. Dragonflies no less--my favorite. Hope everyone has signed up for this program. If not, you are missing out! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Thank you
When I think of how many years I have been in this group LOL...and I know I was not one of the first but it was in the 90s that I joined. How time flies along with your bobbins LOL. Actually it is all the wonderful lace makers and their generosity of spirit. It is the sharing of techniques, knowledge, tips, etc that makes this such a wonderful list. I think we have stood the test of time. I can't imagine this list ever disappearing LOL. Hoping it is here until I take my last breath. (Let me die with my bobbins in my hand and my lace pillow in my lap) Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stillwell Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:24 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Thank you cjohnson0...@comcast.net Hi Arachnids Thank you Susie for letting us know the date, I am a relative new-comer to Arachne. I wish to add my thanks to Susie's 'No one has mentioned that today is our Sweet 16th birthday. Thanks again to Liz Reynolds. She has made it possible for us to communicate via this medium since 1995, without charge. Her gift has given many lacemakers opportunities to increase their knowledge about lace. And thanks to Avital for being our Webmaster for many years.' Also from me a personal thank you to Jeri Ames and Tess for all the professional expertise they are prepared to share with us. Keep lacemaking everyone Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] HIDE Bobbin
Ack!! I am going OT all of a sudden and wishing to blazes that I had an English connection for genealogy. I have relatives that are named Casemore, descended from William and Mary Casemore who came to Canada around 1780/1785 or thereabouts. We are convinced that even though they settled in Canada and had Canadian citizenship, they probably arrived on a ship that came into NY since there is a record of a Casemore being born in NY, around the time that the eldest son was supposedly born. Legend has both son's born near Toronto (and only one actual birth record of a Casemore being born from that couple in Ontario) They had 2 sons. All Casemore's in North America (Canada and the US) are supposed to be descended from that one couple. Problem I have is trying to find out who they were related to in England. They were disowned by the wife's family (she was higher in social status than he was) He was their coachman. Her maiden name, handed down word of mouth was Rider or Ryder. The story of how the blue blooded (probably not...but possibly landed gentry or gentleman farmer?) Mary fell in love and eloped with the coachman against daddy's wishes, is a favourite story in all the Casemore families. (someone even published an Article which was genealogical in nature that told the story of the Casemore's. The handme down story in our immediate family (my great grandfather was a Casemore) was that She was named Casemore or Castlemore and he was named Ryder or Rider and they took her name since it was more genteel. I wish I could find a marriage record for William Casemore and Mary Ryder/Rider, which would have occurred in England. I am sure that the trip to Canada was due to them being turned away by her family after they eloped. I am glad that I got a copy of the publication from the Toronto paper. Anyone also know why someone going to Ontario Canada from England in the latter 1700's would go into an American port? Is the fact that they eloped and were married outside of tradition, going to make it next to impossible to trace the ancestry? Would Mary's family have destroyed any record of her being part of their family? I don't know how scandals and being disowned in the late 1700s in England were handled!!! I have found lots of Casemore's in England...especially in the the lacemaking areas of England. I am wondering if I could have actually be descended from a lacemaker. (Buckinghamshire and Bedfordshire both seem to have records of Casemore's marrying and being born.) None of the records I have seen are our William Casemore and Mary...so far anyway. I am hampered by ancestor.com not having that much available about English people that goes that far back...and would have gone back 16 to 25 years further back to record births. Also not knowing the name of the ship they sailed and from where they sailed from is another hampering factor. England doesn't seem like that big of a place...it is no larger than the State of Minnesota I live in, but obviously you still have a MAJOR area to search since the church kept most records those days. I do know they were Church of England. Frustrated in America Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Malvary J Cole Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:46 AM To: Brian Lemin; Lace Subject: Re: [lace] HIDE Bobbin I had a quick look in Ancestry - there are several women with Hide as their middle name but most of the use of Hide as a first name are men. I then looked at those who were married to a husband named Hide, but couldn't see any of them who were lacemakers. I doubt that the women with middle name Hide would have a bobbin with that name on with no sign of their first name. It could well be the letters for a secret message: Happy I.. Dearest Emily (couldn't think of an I word); or perhaps the initials of their 4 children: Henry, Irene, David, Elizabeth Malvary in Ottawa where we have managed, so far, to miss all the big snow dumps that have happened all around. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Big postal delays to the USA
Wow, what does a posh bag bobbin bag look like...I have to make myself a bobbin roll or something to store my good bobbins in. I am not surprised about the issues with US customs...they love to get carried away, but that doesn't stop me from wanting stuff from England...I love just about anything English!! (especially jelly babies and Cadbury chocolate) oh and raspberries (the gummy candy with the red and black candy sprinkle coating) Nothing better made than a good English umbrella. ...sorry for being slightly OT...but my favorite things from England are the lace things. I want terribly a good sized bolster pillow stuffed with Barley straw or sea grass. Barley straw is literally nonexistent in the US. I also want to start collecting Buck's thumpers from Ebay...usually it is the English EBay that has them listed...I just have to careful to check whether the seller is willing to ship worldwide or not. Cearbhael in Cold Snowy FRIGID Minnesota USA -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Jean Nathan Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:33 PM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Big postal delays to the USA I do hope that no-one has had the same experience that Clay and I have just had. I got a Posh bags bobbin bag for her at Southern Counties Lacemakers Fair and posted it airmail on 23rd November. It was delivered to her today. Needless to say we were both in a state of anguish over what had happened to it. I posted 4 parcels together, of which 3 were to Florida - one of those was delivered on 23rd December and the other two are still in the wind somewhere. I'd got the forms downloaded to report missing mail ready to send as soon as Royal Mail starts working again on Wednesday. Royal Mail are saying that, because of increased US security, post is being delayed by about a week as they can no longer send mail on passenger flights and are having to find space on cargo flights, as well as increased customs checks when the post finally arrives in the US. At the moment no parcels can be tracked. We've also had two small book packages returned by Royal Mail to Amazon as undeliverable - no attempt to deliver has been made. Our postie said there are thousands of Amazon parcels in the local sorting office waiting to be attended to. Reckon they decided it would be quicker to clear the backlog around the country by sending whole consignments back to Amazon. So if you've got packages already in the system bound for the US, then you need patience - a lot of it. And if you're planning to send something, it might be a good idea to wait until the end of January in the hope that they will have cleared the backlog and things will move a bit quicker. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] BBC programmes
Well, so far all but the radio stations have been unable to use...Basically BBC will allow users in England to watch BBC on their phone but not US or Canadian viewers. I don't have an iplayer, ipod, or iphone. I have an HTC EVO by sprint and use the Android network for apps. They tend to get the apps eventually but never seems as fast as iphone. Right now I have been pressuring Hulu and Netflix and would LOVE to see BBC allow their content on a subscription basis for either phone OR computer (actually the computer is better...better screen) I would subscribe in second. Meanwhile, I watch whatever BBC show that has been released on dvd on my Netflix streaming video. Yes that is limiting to a degree...your usually a season behind so to speak etc but better than nothing. I was paying for Cable HD and got everything...BUT...it was a really HIGH price to pay...and I mean high as in excess of $150 a month. I am trying desperately to save money and keep my house (my mum died, left me the house and a mortgage...and taxes, and insurance etc etc) Which means, the cable is off and I am either watching it on hulu or Netflix. Fortunately I am in a small town and the vice president of the bank really wants to keep me in the house, and the mortgage and deed in my name...whew, in any other place I would be out on my ear right now and looking for a shopping cart to keep my possessions in (Bag lady Cearbhael) Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of laceandb...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:00 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] BBC programmes They are currently considering a way of allowing overseas viewers to watch the programmes on the iPlayer, but on a pay to view system, as you don't have to pay the UK TV license fee. This has come up recently on the Radio 4 Feedback programme, where apparently they have had e-mails from overseas radio 4 listeners offering to pay something for listening to what they consider to be excellent programmes. Just in case you are one of those honourable people, don't feel bad about not paying - I don't either. Although you need a TV license, the money from which goes to the BBC, you can't (legally) watch *any* live TV on any channel, and the fine for getting caught is #1000. But, I can legally watch programmes as soon as they finish (and for the next week) via iPlayer on my computer, and I can listen to the radio. There used to be a separate radio license, but that was discontinued many years ago. Lace content? The lace that the overseas arachnids won't see on Edwardian farm for a while yet, and the lace that isn't being made by my students as my classes were cancelled this week due to the 12 to 15 inches of snow. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace-chat] Snapshot of my life
Yeah my grandfather actually drove a covered wagon with a team of horses from S Dakota to Minnesota when he was just a lad. In his 80's he took his first plane ride. He died at 101. My great grandmother was married in 1895 and died in the early 1970's...so she was a lot like your gran. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: owner-lace-c...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-lace-c...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Ligeti Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:18 PM To: lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: [lace-chat] Snapshot of my life I always think that my Grandmother lived in the most amazing era. Born in 1879, she saw bicycles come into general use, electricity in every home, cars, radio, television, and right up to a man walking on the Moon!!! She died in 1976 - at 97 years old. I doubt there is another era with such drastic changes in one lifetime. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz lizl...@bigpond.com To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] old and fragile
I am asking for advice on non lace preservation. I found my great grandparent's original marriage certificate and their family record (a large Victorian sheet which has all the births deaths and marriages inked in) Both are rolled up and FRAGILE. How do I unroll and preserve them from deteriorating further and falling apart?? I thought maybe ironing them between waxed paper?? (works for preserving fall leaves that come off of trees) These are from the late 1800's so very very old. I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to keep these. I am the family historian (I do the genealogy research) and any and all original family documents are very precious. Thanks in advance Cearbhael To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace] Jean Leader's dvd on Intermediate Buckspoint lace
I know Jean was and probably is on this list. If I am mistaken (doubtful lol) someone else maybe can answer my question. I noticed there is a nice DVD on Intermediate Skills in Bucks Point Lace available online. What I am a bit confused about is that it says certain patterns are included and worked in the DVD. My question is this: Are the patterns included in hard copy (IE. on paper?) with the DVD? If not how do you get them, so you can work along with her? Cearbhael - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl
Ok...I created a monster I know, Avital, I wrote you privately talking about all the corrections I had found. Well, as I said I was going to do, I started re-charting the shawl pattern to put the corrections in. However, no matter how I did it, the inside inner border didn't fit in the way I wanted it to. The distance between the center design, the inside inner border and the outside inner border was fine going from the bottom up but not fine going from the left to the right. So, I started cutting up graph paper and taping it all together to make more room...and I started charting from the bottom chart up...(bottom, left side AND right side) I found the inside inner border suddenly had wonderful spacing, and I went to town. I also took a few liberties with other design elements to make it even more pleasing to my eyes. 90% of it I did without even looking at the original charts...it just started flowing like a river. Been working on it like a possessed woman since last Thursday. I am, as we speak, almost done with my charts. Complete up through the entire center medallion. (very easy to pick up the rest from the lower charts...just work downhill) I am ecstatic at the results. It is enough like the original that I would not say it is my design but it is definitely a new variation of the design. Not everything is the same. I am trying to figure out the dilemma of how to copy them off in separate charts. I am going to have 4 rows of charts...each row will be 3 charts deep (ie, bottom will be 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 in # and then 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3...on up to 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3. I also need to put a 2 space cross-over on the edges of the charts for matching the charts up together etc. I can simply copy my charts onto 11 x 8 1/2 graph paper working from left to rightand hope I don't mess up. Very hard to do when you have to do it all by hand (at least I use pencil so it can be erased LOL) The other option I have, is to simply cut the current graphs into equal thirds, paste them to matching 11 x 8 1/2 graph paper and add the 2 spaces needed for matching the graphs. Then, copy them and hope the result is neat enough to follow. You must remember that I have taped together various bits of graph paper here and there to accommodate my changes. Trying to match up 14 sq per inch graph paper perfectly is NOT an easy job...and they may not copy off as neatly as I hope. Oh, I should tell you that I worked on the graph paper in landscape mode. The end result is so long I need to roll it up to store it. I fear that if I fold anything it will definitely make it harder to copy and to read. I can tell you that the 34 tooth border on the bottom is now a 42 tooth border. That should give you an idea about the change size wise. You will probably approve since you have found some shawls to come up small by your standards. I am staying with the same border...the corner turns will follow her instructions to the letter. I have the original 34 tooth border I made to fit her pattern. (I frogged out all the rest) I will increase it to 42, turn the right corner and work across the body of the pattern and turn the left corner...then go up enough rows to get some of the pattern knit up. As soon as I am sure everything is working the way it should, I will divide up, copy and scan everything. At that point I will share it with you. I want to share it with Galina as well. I think, however, I will finish it completely before I do that. I am sure she would like to see a picture of the finished shawl as well as the charts. Well, I am exhausted from the work...I have nerve damage in my left hand (I am a leftie) and it makes the work not easy or pleasant but I am so carried away artistically that it has literally bubbled out and I can't be away from it long...I keep getting pulled back to work further. I hope to be entirely done later tonight or tomorrow. It will feel good to start knitting again and not have to put pencil to paper LOL. I think it was a delightful exercise for the brain and definitely broke through any designing barriers (ie lack of confidence and fear?) that I may have had about designing one of my own shawls. There are a couple of pictures of shawls in the first book of Galina's that I liked and would like to chart out what I think I see in them. (not this month though...think I will force myself to wait until April to start another chart project.) I definitely understand now why the Medallion is the hardest of the of the Orenburg shawls. Being so beautiful though, it is hard to resist. Cearbhael - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl
Thanks for the support. I replied to a few people and unfortunately most of them, it seems, went private due to me forgetting that I have to hit reply ALL not just reply when I send. If anyone wishes to share their reply with the group.please feel free to do so. Cearbhael _ From: Norma Harris [mailto:nrm_h...@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM To: 'Avital'; 'Arachne.com'; cearbh...@mywdo.com Subject: RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl I'm another who is enjoying the lace shawl discussion and hope it will continue here. Haven't decided on my next lace shawl, but an leaning much. Thanks, Norma (in VA) http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com NATA #847 Your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl
I am still waiting to get the Estonian Lace Shawls book. I have a pattern or two of Nancy Bush's that I found in Piecework magazine and out of another knitted lace book. The book is on my wish list at Amazon LOL... Cearbhael Me too! Especially as I was given Nancy Bush's Estonian Lace Shawls book for Christmas Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl
Yes, Avital, I was referring to the medallion shawl in the Gossamer Webs Design Collection. She warns you up front that it is hard but that once you truly understand the method of the Russian patterns you can intuit the rest. I pretty much do understand the method and the patterns and no they are never symmetrical. You can not take half and then mirror the other half...You can in many European laces (like Shetland etc) but not the Russian. They always have an extra stitch either on the left inside border or on left or right side of the center. I have chronic pain syndrome due to an old accident and am on hefty pain meds. It makes it hard for me to focus and my memory gets funny very quickly...When I started my shawl, I decided to mirror the first 3 repeats, to make it less frustrating. I divided the shawl up with stitch markers into equal sections of 24 stitches with 25 stitches on the right side center (the center marked with a different color stitch marker) Both inner borders are 16 stitches and the outer border is what it is. Now I look at it and it looks great to others but I know that the stitches are not correct in the mirror image sections. It bothers the heck out of me, I can be very critical of my work. So, I am charting since I can't just gather it all in my head and retain it through the whole line...I think I have it then my mind lets go of it (dang short memory) So...I will chart that left side the way it should be (and yeah it will be MY interpretation of the left side) When I get it done...if your interested in trying it my way I can send you my left side charts. I am not sure how neat I will be or anything but I will be working in pencil at first so I can change things. I am on row 130 of my shawl already and will need to frog a major portion of this (probably everything down to the inner border.) I also found a few major errors in the charts in the book. Off the top of my head I can't tell you what or what patterns the errors were in. I have yet to inform Galina (I have her email address but she and her husband travel a LOT to do seminars etc on Orenburg lace) I will send her an email and find out if she is interested in my corrections or not. I did get the original book she put out. Gossamer Webs: the History and Techniques of Orenburg Lace Shawls. It has a large square shawl in it that isn't a medallion but it has the complete chart. It is out of print but it can be purchased from private sellers either new or used (very expensive) My copy cost me over $60.00. I will share the errors with you as soon as I can make them understandable to others. My way of notation and correction can be messy and illegible to others sometimes (yeah I work with photo copies of my charts so I can scribble) Yes I saw your picture's of your friends Grandmother's shawls...they were lovely. I am especially intrigued by the clustered stitches in the center of the diamonds. I am wondering if it is similar to the Neps in the Estonian shawls. (Neps are very very hard to do though quite beautiful) I am using lacey lamb by Jade Creations for the gossamer shawls and kid/Moreno for the warm shawls. (that way you get that fuzzy halo that the warm shawls have from the goat down) I think I used baby alpaca for the triangular shawl I completed (it is just a tad heavier than the lacey lamb)Nothing I have done has been stretched out yet and yeah I agree with you about the corners being a tad tight... I, like you, find the Russian graft method challenging...I found a much better explanation in a pattern of Galina's that was printed in Piecework Magazine. My sis brought it to show me and I copied the better explanation and will use it next time I graft again. I know that I did it wrong but what I did worked satisfactorily. If you want to chat more about the shawls, we can do it off list if this is OT...? Cearbhael - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl
Avital, I just went to your website and noticed you do the Orenburg shawls...went back through my emails and found this. I am an Orenburg shawl fanatic. I have 1 triangular shawl done. I also have 1 rectangular shawl, 1 square shawl and one warm Orenburg shawl in the works... The square one is the hardest. It is a medallion square and only has 1/4 of the pattern charted. I am working on finishing the lower left 1/4 of the shawl chart. I started the shawl and tried to just intuit the pattern but it is not that simple. It is not a symmetrical pattern and from my experience so far with the Orenburg shawls the left is NOT a mirror of the right...So I stopped knitting and am working on charting now. Besides I have the rectangular shawl to finish and the warm one is just getting started. Your shawl by the way is gorgeous... Cearbhael - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace-chat] A Beautiful Christmas Salad
Dear David, Please send me the recipe...I tried to save it but the program glitched and it was suddenly gone in the wind not to be found (wasn't in deleted either ...I checked) It sounded great. Cearbhael On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:16:20 -0800 (PST) Bev Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thankyou for this recipe David. The combination of melon, goat feta and the hot dressing is mouthwatering. I think Ill break my resolve to buy only fruit and veg. that are in season, and purchase imported, to make this ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mangles
My grandparents both had washers with attached mangles. I used to help her feed the laundry through them. They were called wringers in the US. Mangles in the US were much larger and for ironing large flat items or other items that were too unwieldy for an ironing board. Few homes had them, more common in institutions. We did have one though and I used to mangle sheets, pillow cases, and other large items. My mother was so adept at it she could mangle iron baby clothes. You had to be very careful due to the amount of heat and the size of the padded rollars (very hot and very big) due to the possibility of getting your hand caught. Cearbhael -Original Message- From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 20, 2006 5:02 AM To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com, KFHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Mangles Lots of pictures of mangles and other laundry equipment for those of you too young to remember! http://www.townfield.doncaster.sch.uk/pages/trips/cusworth_laundry.htm Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] Lace Pillow Survey
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Pillow Survey Ok..that is the second person who mentioned horsehair pillows...will someone explain horse hair pillows to me?? Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:04 PM Subject: [lace] Lace Pillow Survey I have 2 large Straw-filled cookie pillows - 24inch diameter. (A couple of hours of blood, sweat, and tears to make each one, but they will last forever!). I also have a beaut 18inch Horsehair cookie pillow, a single sided Honiton pillow, a small Travel pillow, a larger roller pillow ( thick felt on a rolling pin, and mounted in a box, with a foam cushion cut to make the rest.), and a 10 inch square pillow, that fits into a polystyrene rest. This pillow is made from 2 thick felt pads, each about an inch deep, so it is a 2 inch deep pillow. The felt pads were from underneath old manual typewriters. - Remember them???!!! They make beaut pillows, and pins sit well in them, as the felt is so dense. My big roller is made from the the same felt. I have a couple of Polystyrene foam squares made into pillows for demonstrations. - Good enough for the bandage in coloured threads, and for folks to have a few minutes trial. They are kept stacked against the wall in the sewing room between the wall and the sewing table. To Helen in Denver - perhaps you should lend your empty pillow to your darling little daughter, and keep her interested in the craft! The pricking could be offset towards the front, if the pillow is a bit big for her. ( I may have to think about buying her a pillow of her own for Xmas!!) And Yes, I Know - one of the Straw pillows was made for you, many years ago! :)) You will have to come and get it, if you want it!! :)) :)) from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bat control
Well I have to disagree with that last statement since I had one get tangled in my hair as a 4 year old. I remember it well and they had to cut him out (cut my hair) I remember being VERY panicked but I don't hold it against them though I was terrified of them for years afterwards. I don't know why he got into my hair but he may have been pursuing a moth that got into my hair. I just remember being just across the street from our house at dusk and was screaming and rolling on the ground. Had all the neighbors and my family there lol. I had LOTS of hair then too. Used to be able to sit on it. My mother bobbed it after that. I do feel a certain sense of panic if they get in the house but I don't dislike them and they do roost in our old home here. They are in our chimney and keep me up in the morning especially in the spring when they just wake up from hibernation, are probably nesting and nights when it is storming and they are stuck inside. My bedroom wall is next to the chimney and I have very good hearing. Their high pitched squeals hurt my ears big time LOL. (I am the only one who hear those) The audible squeaking is merely irritating at times. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:39 AM Subject: [lace-chat] Bat control There's no truth to the old wives tale that they can become entangled inyour hair - their sonar is able to pick up even small objects, so they have no trouble locating and avoiding a human. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Cows
Sorry folks and Alice, I posted a reply to this about how St Paul Minnesota USA has been doing blanks of Charles Schultz comic characters for years and sent a link. However I sent it to Alice only LOL. So, here is the link...go there. They are great and all different. To anyone not familiar with Charles Schultz...he is the creator of the comic strip Peanuts with Snoopy and Charlie Brown. The link will take you to see the Snoopy Statues. They have also done Charlie Brown, Lucy and a few others. I have yet to find links to these. I am still looking though. Will pass them along. All these statues are decorated and adorned by artists. Some are sponsored by business's (they are pretty obvious LOL) and all are auctioned off for charity (some are bought back by the companies that sponsored them) http://www.villagebiz.com/snoopy/Complete_List/complete_list.html#7 Enjoy them Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Cows At 02:33 PM 6/29/2004, you wrote: What is it about cows? Manchester is currently infested by lifesize fibreglass cows, in all sorts of weird colours. . However the BBC report that it's also been done in Dublin, New York and Tokyo, and originated in Zurich. Wherever they originated, they inhabited Portland a year or two back. The blank cows were made or obtained somewhere, then various artists decorated them. After being displayed around the town for a month or two, they were auctioned off for charity. Whoever dreamed this up, started something that is going around the world. (Something like the 'nude' calendars that we see everywhere now.) G Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] OT new twist on virus
Just received a very official email supposedly from Microsoft that had a zip file attached. It tells you that a new version of MY Doom virus has been detected and it is important for you to install the file that is attached. It is a SCAM and the zip file IS the virus so DON'T download it if you get it. Delete delete delete. Keep in Mind that Microsoft, your isp, and any banks or credit card companies that you deal with will NEVER ask you to do anything via email or attachments. They always refer you to their site to download anything they think you need for security. Just a heads up Cearbhael To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Recipe needed
Ok...there is a recipe called Cabbage and Tomatoes in the Ukraine cookbook I have. I can't tell you the Ukrainian name since it is printed in the Cyrillic Alphabet and my keyboard doesn't do that. 1 sm head cabbage 1 sm onion 3 T butter 2 T water 1 T butter 1 T flour 1 c cooked Tomatoes strained 2 T sour cream Salt Pepper to taste Shred the cabbage. Cook the onion in the butter until tender. Add the cabbage and the water. Cook, uncovered for about 10 minutes or until the cabbage is tender but still slightly crisp. Melt the butter, blend in the flour, and stir in the sour cream, and season the sauce to taste with salt and pepper. Combine the sauce with the cabbage, bring to a boil, and simmer for a few minutes to blend the flavors. Serve as a vegetable with a meat course. Hope that helps Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tatdlace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:10 AM Subject: [lace-chat] Recipe needed Hi lacers, A friend and I were talking about cabbage rolls and she mentioned her Ukranian mother in law, made a cabbage dish that she remebered fondly, but had no idea how to make it. Her mother in law has passed away now so she can't be asked and I thought if there was one source that was sure to know it was all of the folks here. The family was Ukranian on one side and Polish on the other so I'm not really sure of the origins of the recipe. Apparently, from what my friend can remember, the cabbage was shredded and she thinks steamed, probably with onions and garlic, then crushed tomatoes were added and just before it was served a good measure of whipping cream was stirred in (not whipped, just as cream). She's not exactly sure what went into it or how it was prepared as she was visiting her in-laws at the time when her kids were little and she wasn't really paying attention. Now that the kids are grown up and she could have sat down and written out the recipe, her source is gone. So does anyone recognize it? Have a recipe for it? Or is this just one farm wife's personal method of preparing cabbage? I eagerly await your responses as I'm all for recipes that use both cabbage and tomatoes. They're available almost year round and healthy to boot. Besides which, I'd like to give my friend a recipe that she thought was gone for good. Sharon Briggs in Toronto where its a cool 4 degrees C To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Spelling
It is a totally different language LOL. Gaelic. (Gaylick) My computer name is my great great grandmother's maiden name. Cearbhael (pronounced Carroll) it was anglicised to Carroll by the English. Cearbhael is the correct Gaelic spelling for the name. Due to it being a language all of its own (originally being Old Celtic) it has its own rules of pronounciation as most languages do. It is NOT an easy language to learn, and like all languages, different areas of Ireland pronounce things differently. Dubh is one such word (it means dark)...in some areas it is pronounced Doov or Duv (with a very soft v) and other areas Doo or Du (with the bh simply breathed and not actually pronounced) I suppose even Cearbhael in some areas would be Care-vahl with a very soft v. Scotland also speaks Gaelic with some variation in dialect as well. The Welsh speak a form of Gaelic as well but it is almost a different language due to the original Celtic spoken in Wales was a dialect different from that spoken in Ireland and Scotland. In Wales, Ireland and Scotland they were forced to speak the Queen's English back during Queen Elizabeth I's reign. Now most Celtic nations have their native language taught in school at a very young age to prevent their native language from becoming extinct. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Margery Allcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: [lace-chat] Spelling A question I've wondered about for some time: When people began to write down the words they heard, they must have decided how to spell them, although to begin with each speller made up his own mind which letters to write. Fine so far. But when I look at Irish names I get bewildered. How come you can say e.g. Shona and write Sionaid? Or Shivawn, and write Siobhan? Was there a different set of people inventing spelling in Ireland? Is it because Ireland was a foreign (to us) country then? Did this process of inventing spelling happen all around the world in different languages and different alphabets all at the same time? (no, that can't be right - the Chinese probably did it first.) So how? why? and all sorts of other puzzles ... BFN, Margery. == [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Edinburgh, UK == To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Convention
I am not in commuting distance but YES it looks like your being penalized and that SUCKS!!! Sorry to be so blunt but that would keep me from going. (in fact I am not going...and though I have considered it, I think maybe I won't in the future) Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Cherry Knobloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 6:11 AM Subject: [lace] IOLI Convention I don't believe the convention is being tailored to local lacemakers, in fact, we are being penalized for living within commuting distance. This is practically in my backyard but there are no classes that interest me enough to pay the high costs of attending. I will save my pennies and go to Ithaca in the fall. Has there ever been a commuter fee for an IOLI convention before? Commuter Fee: A commuter fee will be charged to those who have registered for the Fancy ($60), Plain ($50) and Blue ($40) Packages, but are not staying at either the Holiday Inn East or the Harrisburg-Hershey Marriott. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Ever pulled down a ceiling?
That painted a rather interesting picture in my mind LOL. Hee hee hee...ROFLMBO. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Ever pulled down a ceiling? As it was very hot DH and I decided that people were easier to clean than clothes, so we carried out the entire operation each wearing no more than a hanky triangle across the nose to keep the dust out. During one of the sorties down into the bedroom I leant against the wall, leaving a perfect bum print. This stayed there for many years, hidden behind some furniture, until we sold the house when it got a quick lick of paint. -- To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: Cornered Waterlily
here here...I love Waterlily and HATE corners. They never did corners in the old days. I don't see a need to now. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: [lace] Re: Cornered Waterlily On Sunday, Dec 7, 2003, at 09:44 US/Eastern, Anita Awenat wrote: Now, one other thing, does anyone know if there is a published pattern of a corner for the Waterlily pattern. I'd like to try it as a handkerchief edging, but can't seem to track down an existing corner design. (I'm not interested in the torchon hex version). I've never seen one. As Karen'd said, there's a pattern for Bucks Waterlily in Stott's Visual Introduction to BP Lace, but it's straight, no corner. Truth to tell, I've not seen all that many cornered PG patterns (Buks Point or other), especially reproductions of traditional ones, once they got past 35 pairs or so. I think, part of the reason is that the PG angles are not natural for forming corners, the way 45 degree angle is. You have to figure on adding a pair for every 5-7 pairs used on the straight, and, even so, the results are apt to be awkward and/or require a lot of juggling. The widest PG lace with a corner I've ever seen is the Seascape, in Stott and Cook's 100 Traditional BL Patterns. It uses 54 pairs on the straight, plus 18 for the corner. Even if one were to rework the innermost part of it and remove the flower (which is neither here nor there in relationship to the rest of the pattern but requires extra 9 pairs by itself), it's still a lot of trouble for what amounts to about two rows of ground (and, of course, you never remove the same pairs you'd added g). Also... I may be entirely wrong, but I have a feeling that, until the last 10-15 yrs, there weren't really all that many lacemakers who had both the skills to handle really complex patterns *and* the necessary disregard for tradition :) The amateur lacemakers of 30-40 yrs ago (and amateur lacemakers are who the pattern books are being written for), even if they had the skills, would have been more interested in reviving lacemaking as it had been, not as it might be. And there's precious little tradition of corners in PG :) There are more corners included in newer publications but, in the older ones, the corners seem to be aimed at middle advanced -- 20-36 regular pairs... Personally, I'm going off corners, especially in the finer laces :) For one thing, half of the time they look half baked, forced; Karen Trend Nissen is exceptionally nimble at designing logical corners (Tonder) and Pamela Nottingham is also very good (Bucks; mostly simple ones though), but they're rare. For another thing, all that hanging in and taking out of corner extras (and learning to jump through new hoops 4 times -- usually widely spaced) is but the beginning of the nightmare; you then have to have machine precision in mounting the lace just so to fit the fabric. Gathered corners are much more forgiving, even if they mean making extra few inches of the pattern (at least you know the pattern well, since it doesn't change g). And, for all they don't show off the pattern as well as flat lace, they seem to have more life to them; they dance. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] worrisome
I did notice that my yahoo accts chat groups doesn't give out the email addresses. I typed in the name of my horse and got a few messages I had written to a Yahoo Arabian horse group I belong to. They had clickable paths to my email addy but they put dots in most if it. When I clicked on the email addy it sent me to Yahoo's security page and asked for my password. Another words...unless it was me, I couldn't get the info. I do not know what kind of security Arachne has for Lace and Lace chat. Maybe Avital could tell us?? Cearbhael - Original Message - From: rick sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: [lace-chat] worrisome A few months ago I posted a queery about an odd piece of cookware. Nobody at the time knew anything about it. However, yesterday I received an interesting reply. The thing was, though, the guy who replied was not a member of our group. He is doing research on the thing and he had just typed in terracotta in his search engine. What that appears to mean is, that any of our posting to arachne will go on-line, anywhere,at any time, and pick out key words applicable elsewhere. I had, perhaps in my naivitie (sp?) thought that our postings would be confined to our group..appparently not. In this case I've received an interesting reply, but I am a little concerned. Thought you should be aware..we are not alone :) Sharon on Vancouver Island To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes
I never owned a pair of red shoes until my mother bought me a pair of red shoes when I was in my early 40's. She was the girl who liked color in her shoes. My flashiest pair of footwear was a pair of knee high lace up purple suede granny boots with 2 inch heels that I bought in 1965. My favorite shoes were a pair of real (leather not vinyl) patent leather mary jane's with a 2 1/2 inch chunky heel They were gorgeous and fit like a dream (and made in Italy) I fell in love with them in a newspaper add (full page spread) and my mother ordered them over the phone and they FIT. I got them for Christmas. What a wonderful present that was. I wore them till they literally disintergrated. That was a sad day sniff. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: H. Muth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes Hello all, I never had a pair of red shoes. I did have a pair with very high cork platforms which had white sandal straps on them. (I'm trying very hard to remember.) And I also had a pair of very high black boots which my parents hated. My daughter is working on her own style (she's 13) but I don't think there'll be any such shoes in her fashion future. Heather Abbotsford, BC Almost finished this semester's classes. Just 2 major essays to go. At 11:55 AM 02/12/2003 +, Lynne Cumming wrote: My 16 year old daughter received her 'first' pay packet last week (has done a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3 stiletto jobs in bright red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says, I had a pair of red shoes. Now my query is this, how many are there of you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at 14 (plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike to school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too small! I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera - cheap from Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool! I wish I had legs like hers tho. Lynne. Lynne Cumming Baldock, North Herts, UK email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
Actually YES there is a large Polish population in St Paul (South/Central Minnesota in general). Plus, since there are also alot of Swedes in Minnesota, (actually lots of Scandinavians, including Finnish, Swedish, and Norwegian) we could have a majority of blondes in the City Council LOL. (Don't really know but could be) We do have more natural blondes in this state than most. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chat Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving On Tuesday, Nov 18, 2003, at 00:15 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is really a pain in the rear to have to go to the DMV downtown St Paul (who doesn't even have handicapped parking by the way) to get your handicapped card. Big Polish population in St Paul? The mayor an all the council are blondes too, no doubt... g - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving
Hmmm...Tamara maybe they are cardboard in your state but in Minnesota they are plastic and prefered to the plates these days. I have permanently disabled people in the family (besides myself) and we all have what are called permanent disability cards which hang from the mirror. They are not cardboard but a heavy plastic and good for 5 years. The Temporary disability card is red not blue and is only good for 6 month periods. They prefer the cards here since people often have multiple cars or are being chauffeured by someone who doesn't have disabled plates. Many of my family members have sight disabilities and won't ever be able to get permanent plates for cars they can't drive. My 100 year old grandfather (who moves in the speed of ultra slow only LOL) has 3 different cards. My aunt has one (and then one of her own LOL...personally I think that is silly) By the way, she can't drive and neither can my father (he is married to her) so that is doubly silly. 2 for my mother (she has 2 cars) since SHE usually drives him. They gave her two when she complained that she couldn't remember to switch the card from car to car. (actually if you knew my mother you would understand) She is also losing her sight. (she is basically blind in one eye already) So eventually she may just get her own (and I will have to drive her around) I have my own but it stays in my car unless my son is taking me somewhere then he lets me bring it and hang it on his mirror. He HATES using the handicapped spot but he is becoming much more protective of me now that he is grown and married. I would go nuts if I had to get a card every 3 years. It is really a pain in the rear to have to go to the DMV downtown St Paul (who doesn't even have handicapped parking by the way) to get your handicapped card. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chat Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Handicap parking/driving On Monday, Nov 17, 2003, at 03:58 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote: We only have 'temporary' handicapped badges that each last three years - then you have to reapply.But in order to get one, you have to have a permanent disability. Nice to know that *something*, in the area of social care is better in the US than in the UK :) Here, if you have a permanent disability, you get a permanent tag; the guy in the wheelchair symbol is pressed into your license plates (preceding the numbers). You need to renew the plates yearly (everyone does), but that's it (as it should be). The temporary (and up for periodical review) tags are cardboard, bear the same symbol, and are hung off the front mirror. They're *supposed* to be used only when the disabled is on board *and* needing to get to the store, but they're not (I've seen young, brisk mothers of 3 shepherding the brood to a store having first placed her excuse on the mirror). The older folk tend to drive right to the door of the store, drop the disabled person *there*, and park wherever there's a spot, *other* than the Handicapped one. The procedure is reversed at the other end. It's the younger set who take advantage of the few yards (I bet they're the ones who jog for their health daily, too g) I don't drive slowly as I'm not in pain when I drive. I'm not a disabled driver but a disabled walker. Yeah, sorry, but, in my (limited, granted) experience, the folk with the permanent tags tend to drive at 10-15MPH irrespective of the posted speed limit (25 to 55 MPH in the immediate area; you don't see many of them on the highways, praise be). And they never turn their blinkers off, either... *If*, that is, they remember to turn them on in the first place... I'm a reasonable person most of the time but, when on the road, I turn into a *witch*, and all the infractions are *counted* g - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south
Sorry Clay, I iintended to send this to the whole list. (never get that reply/reply all button stuff figured out) Cearbhael - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south First off, it is doesn't need a scientist to break it down. The sun comes up in the east and goes down in the West. The only time there is a left or right depends on what direction YOUR standing. Actually if I face east in the morning (and wouldn't matter what hemisphere you are in) it will come up straight in front of you and travel up and over behind you. If your facing west, you won't see it come up and won't see it until it is noon when you can look straight up at it. Then you can watch it move away from you and down. If your facing North. (any hemisphere) the sun will go from right to left. If you facing south then it will move from left to right. So...unless your exactly positive what direction your facing, it is easier to remember that in the morning it is in the east. Around noon it is pretty much overhead, and in the afternoon it is in the western sky. So it makes more sense to be aware of what time of day it is and then look where the sun is and figure out what direction your going. You can also look at your shadow. They always point away from the sun. So where the sun is concerned, left and right is a very relative term and not very reliable. Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south It had never occured to me until it was mentioned in that programme that in the southern hemisphere the sun and moon travel across the sky from right to left instead of from left to right as it does in the northern hemisphere. I'd find that very disorientating. REALLY?! It has never occurred to me either, and my poor befuddled brain just can't get around it. Could one of our scientific minds please break this down for me!! Clay - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:31 AM Subject: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south There was a programme on TV the other night about the effect the moon has on the earth. It had never occured to me until it was mentioned in that programme that in the southern hemisphere the sun and moon travel across the sky from right to left instead of from left to right as it does in the northern hemisphere. I'd find that very disorientating. How do people who have 'east/west' problems cope in US cities where streets have names like East 54th Street? Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Fwd: Right? Left?
Rofl, Tamara, I would have but it is that same old problem of the reply/reply to all button. I just have to hit reply for most things. This list is the exception to the rule. (though it is an excellent method of being able to email direct to the sender and not the list LOL) So I am forwarding it!!! How is that!! You? A Braggart???Never. Keep that subterrainean stuff coming!!! Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Re: Fwd: Right? Left? Hi Serb, Here here!!! (one of those subterrainean joke list members!!!) And may I add proudly lefthanded!! Shoulda sent it to chat, too, so that people don't think I'm bragging :) T - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Thanks for NL help
Moving this to lace chat since that is where it belongs. I agree. The tape was invented by 3M. (a local Minnesota company at the time) A clue to why it is called Scotch tape is the tartan plaid in the packaging as well. It is a common term (or was) that if you made things stretch, and pinched every penny, you were Scotch of course the fact that it was an incorrect pronounciation of the word Scots didn't seem to deter anyone LOL. In fact, in Minnesota everyone calls a Scotsman a Scotchman. (I don't because we have Scots relatives and learned very young that was incorrect) They also call Italians, Etalians. Of course an Italian will tell you that they don't come from Etaly!!! Cearbhael - Original Message - From: Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adele Shaak [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jane Viking Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Thanks for NL help And when we arrived in Australia in the 1950's, there was a brand on sale here called Durex - which at least in the UK then was a brand of contraceptive. You can imagine how a young English girl reacted upon hearing the cry go down the corridors of the office: does anyone have any Durex? Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Adele Shaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jane wrote: Jane in Vermont, USA who was wondering why we call it Scotch tape and remembered it is because it was made by the Scotch Company, not an ethnic reference And Adele opens her bag of trivia: The name Scotch Tape is an ethnic reference (for anyone who is baffled at this point, there is a long-time idea that the Scots, more than anyone else, pinch a penny till it bleeds). If there is a Scotch Company (I always thought the original Scotch tape was made by 3M) it was named after the tape, not the tape after the company. The product is (or originally was) a long strip of cellophane to which a sticky substance was applied. When the company first started making it, the apparatus for applying the glue to the cellophane didn't always work perfectly. Sometimes you had cellophane sticky tape and sometimes you just had cellophane! One disgruntled customer wrote to the company, complaining about ...this Scotch tape of yours - the reference is that in his opinion, the company was trying to save on glue by not actually putting any on the tape. The company, however, took the reference and applied it to the notion that their sticky tape could be used to repair things, which meant you saved money, which was also referred by calling it Scotch Tape. The name stuck (pardon the pun) for other reasons than the ethnic reference: it's short, it's catchy, and eventually in North America, scotch tape became a generic reference to any sticky cellophane tape. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
