[lace] re: bowing off ?

[d2oneill]

Withof Lace by Trude v.d. Heijden-Biemans has a good diagram of this technique 
on page 11. 

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[lace] apology

[d2oneill]

I do apologize for not trimming that post about collars in the Victoria TV 
series. 

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Re: [lace] Victoria's gown

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In one instance, a servant gave a Battenberg-type collar to a friend, and
Victoria, noticing the lack of her servant's collar, gave her a Cantu
(Rococo?) collar to wear.

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To: "Arachne Reply" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:59:32 AM
Subject: [lace] Victoria's gown

My local public TV has been running the Victoria series.������
They re-ran the
first 5 episodes last weekend, which I watched though I had seen them
earlier.
I closely watched the wedding scenes to see the dress.�� Then I did some
web
searching for pictures of the real gown.�� I concluded that the TV people
copied the gown as it was displayed a couple years back.�� This display
did
not include the wedding laces that originally were used on the gown-- just the
basic dress.
The filming was very cleverly done -- featuring mostly a head shot of
Victoria, or having her partly hidden behind another person or piece of the
set.�� Only one scene showed the entire dress, and only briefly.�� It
made me
wonder if the director knew the dress was not correctly duplicated and
deliberately did not let the dress show much, or if the costumers did not
research the subject very far and just stopped with a picture of the dress as
it was in the display.
Does anyone in UK remember any talk about this when the program first came
out?�� They did such a good job of making period costumes for all the
characters that the lack in the wedding gown was a surprise.��

I also wondered at all the servants wearing real lace collars.�� I didn't
think this was normal for servants, but maybe being in the royal household let
them dress better than other servants.
Alice in Oregon -- where rain is predicted for another 7 days.�� Sunday
and
Monday we had snowflakes bigger than quarters.�� Lovely to see.

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[lace] Lace in Rauma

[d2oneill]

An article on lace at the Rauma museum appeared in an old issue of La Dentelle 
magazine, perhaps you can research it. I remember it only because I kept a page 
showing a torchon "hearts' pattern: I shall send the picture to you. 
D. O'Neill Chicago Area. 

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Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

[d2oneill]

Robin Lewis' rope torchon lace installation in the TVA building was 
well-received at the time... 
>From Doris O'Neill, Chicago Area 
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From: "Marianne Gallant"  
To: "lace"  
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:16:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers 

I think that may be true for a lot of people. Most of the modern 'art' I 
don't care for, it is just too far out there. 
Like the mention earlier of a guy who had been watching a demo of bobbin 
lace and then enthusiastically talked about using rope.fine, yes you 
can make 'lace' with anything, but.is it going to be appreciated by 
most of the mainstream? Not necessarily. I think especially those of us 
who appreciate lace, want the stuff made 

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[lace] Radmila Zuman

[d2oneill]

I am sorry to learn of the death of Radmila Zuman. She has contributed so much 
to the Lace World. I remember her best for the Lace Tour she organized for 21 
of us to to (then) Czechoslovakia, where we were privileged to be part of the 
first FREE May Day in Wenceslas Square. She arranged for us to meet prominent 
Czech lacemakers, including Milca Eremiasova, Marie Vankova and Luba Krecji, 
and to see contemporary and traditional laces in many areas of the country. 
Since most of us were novices in lacemaking, it was a truly a memorable and 
wonderful experience. 

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Re: [lace] Yelts lace

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Much information about YELETS lace ( by a Google search). Images as well. a 
Russian lace . Thanks for the inquiry, interesting topic 

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From: "Nathalie"  
To: "lace"  
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:35:36 AM 
Subject: [lace] Yelts lace 

Hello, 

Does anyone has a description of Yelts lace? 
What about the history? 
Information is difficult to find. 

Thank you. 
Nath 

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[lace] re:pins

[d2oneill]

An article titled Notes on the history of the common pin by John Nolin 
("researcher on the many facets of 18th century life")won a prize for best 
article in an IOLI bulletin dated July 1984. Noted: an invention of a 
pin-making device by an American 1824. T^his article was not specifically about 
use of pins for lacemaking, but an interesting history 

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Re: [lace] lace magazines/membership

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Hi, Sylvie 
You might also wish to borrow past issues of OIDFA magazines from the IOLI 
library--much useful information to be found there. 

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[lace] spiders in lace

[d2oneill]

In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I came 
across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders, for what is 
elsewhere described as(three-legged or two-legged) spider ground or spider 
filling. Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers 
should be raised to give an arched effect. This is done after the first half of 
the spider body is woven, by holding the pairs nearest the pin up high and 
tight against it while closing it...and pulling the outer pairs up tight... : 
contrary to more modern instructions to remove the pin and smooth the spider 
center down. Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays? 
Doris O'Neill Chicago Area. 

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[lace] re: Jane Austen and lace

[d2oneill]

Perhaps you can locate a small booklet published by the Bath City Council, 
titled A Frivolous Distinction: Fashion and Needlework in the works of Jane 
Austen by Penelope Byrde. 

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Re: [lace] Contemporary Lace Panel Discussion

[d2oneill]

THANK YOU for sharing the pinterest laces with all of us. 


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From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com 
To: lace lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:04:50 PM 
Subject: [lace] Contemporary Lace Panel Discussion 

Devon 
I have been collecting photos of contemporary lace on 2 pinterest boards. You 
might find them interesting and possibly relevant. 
https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-modern/ 

https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-modern/ 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/contemporary-needle-lace-3 

http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/albums/contemporarymodern-needlelace 

Lorelei 

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[lace] apology

[d2oneill]

I neglected to delete the original message referring to the Binche peacock 
pattern: I apologize for including the original message, and will do better 
next time. 

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Re: [lace] Binche Peacock

[d2oneill]

Not sure about the peacock, but the Madonna and child look so much in the style 
of Milca Eremiasova--what is the source of that pattern, and ,please, where can 
I purchase it? 

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From: Anita Hansen purplelace...@hotmail.com 
To: lace lace@arachne.com, celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:45:23 AM 
Subject: [lace] Binche Peacock 

Hi Sherry! 

I think I have made the peacock that was discussed, but I'm not sure. My 
patterns and lace books are still packed away after our move so I can't check 
the pattern to see if was from OIDFA. I have uploaded a photo of my lace to 
the arachne2003 flicker account. 

My Binche lace skills are primarily self taught. If you can follow a 
color-coded Belgium diagram you are well on your way to doing Binche! Oh, and 
being able manage a zillion bobbins helps! LOL! If you can't find a Binche 
workshop, one in Flanders or Paris is the next best thing. The most difficult 
part of working Binche lace (aside from the zillion bobbins) is that it will 
keep you on your toes. You will need to constantly refer to the diagram. 
This isn't Torchon where you look at the lace and automatically know what to 
do and easily get into a repeatable rhythm. So you will either like that or 
you won't. I don't even bother taking my Binche project to a lace 
demonstration because I need to concentrate. I also put my working diagram on 
a styrofoam board (covered with fabric) so I can use pins to keep my place. I 
will suggest that it helped me to practice Flanders ground, Paris ground and 
snowflake ground before I just jumped into one of Kumiko Nakazaki's design 
which was similar in size to this peacock. 

Kumiko Nakazaki will be teaching a class on Binche lace at the upcoming 2015 
IOLI convention. I am delighted to say it is being co-hosted by the Doris 
Southard Lace Guild right here in eastern Iowa, namely Coralville. You can 
find information on the IOLI website. And you will (hopefully) find me in her 
class too! 

Anita Hansen 
Cedar Rapids, Iowa 

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Re: [lace] Lace fan and a bag.

[d2oneill]

The fan and bag are beautiful, thank you for the website. I also noted the 
clever animal quilt, so appropriate for a child--can you indicate where the 
swan pattern can be found? In a particular book or website? 
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From: Jeanette Fischer jeane...@maxitec.co.za 
To: lace lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:56:41 AM 
Subject: [lace] Lace fan and a bag. 

There are photo's of a lace fan and small lace bag made by two of our 
members on our Guild Website. Beautiful lace made with silk. 



http://capelaceguild.tumblr.com/ 





Jeanette Fischer 

Western Cape, South Africa. 

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Re: [lace] Re: Care of fabrics - 1940s style

[d2oneill]

I recall some of those same things, and how we were affected by the shortage of 
nylons. Department Stores would send out cards to special customers 
occasionally, which entitled the recipient to buy one pair of nylons from a 
rare shipment. Since nylons were supposedly part of our school uniforms, we had 
to have them, and mended the inevitable runs in those stockings and wore them! 
Also in desperation we wore thick cotton long hose... the nuns would not allow 
the leg makeup for school... 

Doris O'Neill , Chicago Area 




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Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:24:11 AM 
Subject: [lace] Re: Care of fabrics - 1940s style 




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Re: [lace] Long Live Lace!

[d2oneill]

Thanks for your clever expression of the way we all feel about lacemaking, 
Noelene. Doris O'Neill, Chicago Area. 







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From: Noelene Lafferty nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au 
To: Lace lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:45:13 PM 
Subject: [lace] Long Live Lace! 

Long Live Lace 

As old age encroaches things start going wrong 
That medical treatment can't help. 
There are twitches and spams, and all sorts of aches 
And just to bend down brings a yelp. 

But if one has an addiction to something as nice 
As lacemaking and all of its treasure 
There's no time for self pity or to fret about pain 
There's too much to do that is pleasure. 

As well as just having lace projects galore 
There's books with ideas to astound 
And talking with friends at a meeting, or now 
On internet groups that abound. 

So nurture your lace, invest in your books 
Until your bank balance is zero. 
They'll help to make years a pleasure to bear 
And send troubles quick smart out the window. 

Noelene in Cooma 
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au 

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[lace] Art Institute exhibit

[d2oneill]

The exhibit Impressionism, Fashion, and Modernity will be at the Art Institute 
of Chicago through September 22. The relationship between art and fashion 
during the late 19th Century , showing 75 paintings by Impressionists is the 
theme of the exhibit, highlighting the history of women's dress. (The exhibit 
has already been at the Musee d'Orsay in Paris and the Metropolitan Museum of 
Art in New York). If you have seen it, could you expand, for Arachne members, 
on any aspects of Lace which you observed? 
Doris O'Neill Chicago Area 

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[lace] books vs kindle

[d2oneill]

How will the quotations change when we have only kindle editions? A room 
without books is like a body without a soul: When I get a little money I buy 
books: and if any is leftover I buy food and clothes. 


from Doris O'Neill , Chicago area. 

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[lace] no messages

[d2oneill]

I have not received any messages from arachne for two days. Why? 

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[lace] re: no messages

[d2oneill]

Thanks to all who replied to my query about lack of arachne e-mails. I thought 
possibly my lack of computer expertise had caused a glitch. 
Doris O'Neill in The Chicago Area. 

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[lace] Ipswich Lace

[d2oneill]

And, of course, the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel. 

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[lace] re: your program

[d2oneill]

Sounds like a great day, and surely appealing to that age group, Janice. 

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[lace] rochet lace

[d2oneill]

The TV and newspaper pictures of the Cardinals in Rome for the election of a 
new Pope show only tantilizing glimpses of the wide lace edgings on the 
suplice-like garment they wear (the rochet) . Though I assume these varied wide 
lace trims are not handmade, they look very lovely. Does anyone know a source 
or website where one might more clearly view the lace? 

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[lace] new book

[d2oneill]

Thank you for your book reviews: it is great to be informed of the contents of 
new lace-related books which we might wish to add to our libraries. 

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Re [lace]:Quiet? /what lace?

[d2oneill]

I am doing a Michel Jourde pattern , the tiger which appeared on the cover of a 
past issue of Lace Express magazine. If any arachne member has laced that one, 
I would appreciate your e-mailing me privately, I have big questions on how to 
best complete the black fur markings halfway into the pattern. 
d2one...@comcast.net Doris O'Neill, Chicago area 

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[lace] change of request

[d2oneill]

I realize was wrong to request a private answer to my questions about the 
tiger pattern from LACE EXPRESS magazine (which I am currently working on) 
since the whole point of Arachne is SHARING, so if anyone is familiar with that 
pattern, I hope you might share your solutions to smoothly creating the tiger's 
black fur, in this forum. The operative word is smoothly: in starting and 
stopping groundwork around the fur. 

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[lace] OIDFA book

[d2oneill]

How can I direct my thanks for the beautiful book the German Folk costumes 
group of OIDFA has gifted to its members ? What a lovely and clear depiction of 
the lappets...and the patterns and instructions. The book is itself a work of 
art. 

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Re: [lace] sand dollar

[d2oneill]

The pattern for the sand dollar pictured on the cover of The Lacemaker 
magazine Sept. 2003 is on page 6 of the magazine. The designer's lace group 
named themselves Sand Dollar Lacers, and are shown in the magazine wearing a 
picture of the sand dollar on t-shirts. from Doris O'Neill in the Chicago Area. 

From: Kim Davis k...@wirelace.net 
To: Lace lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:31:50 AM 
Subject: [lace] sand dollar 

Does anyone know of a bobbin lace pattern for a sand dollar? 
Thanks, Kim 

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Re: [lace] re: translation

[d2oneill]

Surely there is a mention of the work of the author Edith Wharton (Age of 
Innocence, Ethan Frome, House of Mirth, etc.) concerning the teaching of lace 
in Belgium at that time? 

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From: Karen Thompson karenhthomp...@gmail.com 
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:17:45 PM 
Subject: [lace] re: translation 

Thank you so much to everyone who chimed in on my translation question 
for the inscriptions on some War Laces and on the spin-offs from that 
conversation. Charlotte Kellogg's Bobbins of Belgium from 1920 is a 
fascinating book about the War Laces, the lacemakers and the 
organizers. Fortunately it is now on line, as mentioned. Queen 
Elisabeth of Belgium had already started an effort to improve the lace 
designs, the standards of lacemaking and the lives of the lacemakers 
in Belgium around 1911 before WWI broke out. This effort became even 
more important during the war. Lou and Herbert Hoover along with many 
others were instrumental in negotiating import of threads and the 
export of the lace. Friends in various Allied countries supported the 
effort by buying the lace. Several famous Belgian artists contributed 
by making designs. Isidore de Rudder and his sister Maria were among 
those artists. The whole history of the Begian War Laces is 
fascinating, and several articles have been written about them. 
Patricia Wardle, Elaine Merritt, Devon Thein are among the authors. - 
Sorry, I am not at home at the moment, and do not have my files to 
check exact dates. 

Karen in Washington, DC 

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Fwd: [lace] help finding book source

[d2oneill]

Sounds like Modern Lace Designs by Veronica Sorenson. 

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From: bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com 
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:29:57 AM 
Subject: [lace] help finding book source 

Hello everyone 

This is a long shot, and I should have written the book's title on the page 
I copied. Mea culpa. I think I gave the book away! 
What I have is a pattern diagram entitled Pricking 3 Woollen scarf - it 
is Torchon.There is cloth stitch CTC down both edges and diamonds of 
half-stitch, roseground and spiders for the main part. 
I think the book was an all purpose how-to for bobbin lace published prior 
to 2000. There is a portion of a picture where someone is modelling the 
scarf. It (the scarf) looks rather crisp and might have been made of linen 
thread. Does this ring a bell for anyone? I would like to know who designed 
the pattern. 

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of 
Canada 

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[lace] wooden implement question

[d2oneill]

A picture in the Shire album of needlework tools has a rosewood tool which 
looks at first glance like a needle case, similar to your pictured tool. But it 
is a holder for a styptic pencil these are quite frequently found in 
workboxes. I don't do needlelace, but if I attempted it, I could use a handy 
styptic pencil! 


From Doris 

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Fwd: [lace] book: A Guide to Old and New Lace in Italy

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Subject: Re: [lace] book: A Guide to Old and New Lace in Italy 


The Fair Women by Jeanne Madeline Weimann has an account of the setting up of 
the lace exhibit in the Woman's Bldg at the World's Columbian Exposition 
Chicago 1893. A few pictures of lace, not detailed. 


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Does anyone know more about this exhibit, where 
the pieces were from, etc? The book can be read in its entirety at: 



http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/bca_lace.pdf 



Thanks, Kim 

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[lace] lacemaking demo in Williamsburg VA

[d2oneill]

Clay Blackwell writes indicates that there has never been any archival 
indication of the existence of lacemaking in Williamsburg during that time, and 
therefore there is never any demonstration of the art of lacemaking in the 
historical village...When I visited Williamsburg in February 1995, a bobbin 
lacemaker was demonstrating lacemaking in front of a big display of lace in one 
of the historic buildings . I wish I had kept the name of the lacemaker, but I 
did not. 
Doris O'Neill, Chicago area. 


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[lace] Venetian lace

[d2oneill]

A short essay at the beginning of the book Twentieth Century Lace 
,(Pfannschmidt) citing changes from old-style laces after WW1 made in Venice, 
saysBobbin lace in the new style was made at Cantu... 

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[lace] archival storage

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Our local Office Max sells page protectors labeled archival safe: acid free. 
Are these suitable for lace storage? I really would like the opinion of an 
expert among you-all. 
Doris in Chicago Area . 


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[lace] re: gecko pattern

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A gecko is a reptile, a salamander is an amphibian. However, in lace patterns, 
the two look much alike. Lia Baumeister-Jonker has a salamander pattern. I 
first saw it published in 1988: colors, orange and green, I believe. 


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[lace] lace fence and tatting

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An October 4 New York Times T magazine article pictures D utch designer Tord
Boontje' s lace fence installation at Phildelphia University

and mentions that he taught himself to tat using grass growing outside his
studio.  http://www.nytimes.com . Put T magazine 

in the search box,and then, in next search box, choose Untangling the Web. 
(Remix: Untangling the Web is the first article).

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[lace] Laceday updates

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The Lacemakers and Collectors Exchange, a Chicago area lace guild,  will host
a Laceday on June 13. Please see our website, www.lacemakersofillinois.com for
updates on this event.

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[lace] lace+prisons

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There is a display of lace made by female inmates in a former prison (Arizona
Territorial Prison in Yuma, now a museum run by the State Parks of Arizona). 
The prison operated from 1876-1909.  If you Google Arizona prisons+lace you
can see at least one picture of the lace exhibit , with the captionlace made
by inmates for personal use and for barter.  A friend who visited
the place   said there was an extensive exhibit of the lace, so apparently,
historically, there was no rule against prisoners using lacemaking tools.  
http://travel.webshots.album/559730635QPVYAQ

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Re: [lace] new website

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Thanks, Sue, for sharing your website and lovely laces: and thanks to your
husband, who put together the easily-accessed pictures. What a treat to see
this, first thing this  morning!

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Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 6:32:20 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [lace] new website

My DH has finished putting a new website together for me displaying some of
the better pieces worked by me over that time.  We have left out sample
strips and just put in completed pieces.
Anyone who wants to take a peek can click on the link below.
Sue T Dorset UK

http://www.g3sbt.supanet.com/hurwitzend/index.htm

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[lace] thread equivalent?

[d2oneill]

Can someone suggest a thread equivalent for ariane cotton 32/2?  I do recall
this question was asked some time ago on Arachne, but I don't recall that an
answer  was ever given.  This thread is used in a pattern by Michel Jourde.

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[lace] Laceday in the Chicago area

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Lacemakers and Collectors Exchange, a chartered group of IOLI, will host a
laceday on June 13, 2009 in Downers Grove, IL --Lacysusan, Kenn Van Dieren and
The Lacemaker USA (Tracy Jackson) will be among the vendors.  Lace exhibits
and bobbin lace classes are planned.  Please see our website,
www.lacemakersofillinois.org for further information.

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[lace] Lace in Literature

[d2oneill]

It was fun to come across this reference to Bobbin Lace as I read one of the
13 books listed in author Jay Parini's recently published Promised Land;
Thirteen Books That Changed America . Mary Antin's memoir (also titled The
Promised Land) details her childhood journey from Polotzk, Russia, in the Pale
of Settlement, to Boston,MA, USA.  She devotes 2 or 3 paragraphs to her
experience in learning and teaching Bobbin Lace (p.127 of the paperback
edition). I was always...very clumsy with my hands..but when the fad for
Russian Lace was introduced into Polotzk...all feminine Polotzk...dropped
knitting and crochet needles and embroidery frames to take up pillow and
bobbins.  I, too, was carried away by the novelty and applied myself heartily
to learn the new art...my hands knew their business for once...I gave lessons
at my pupils'homes.

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[lace] Michelle's ball gown

[d2oneill]

Thank you, Julie Ourom , for mentioning the slideshow of details of Michelle's
fashions: I think you are correct in identifying the silver animals  as
spiders.  I had previously thought they had to be dragonflies, but they do
look like fantasy spiders, after all.

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Re: [lace] Large lace patterns

[d2oneill]

I made this mistake, too--put a large pattern on a large pillow, and discovered 
too late that one of the fillings areas was out of easy reach--could not simply 
turn the pillow, since it had to be done top-to-bottom .  Next time, I will use 
my new block pillow, so every part of a large pattern will be in easy reach.

--
Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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 I have just started to make a large item in very fine silk, on a flat 
 polystyrene pillow, and am finding that I am reluctant to start it each day, 
 even though I want to do the pattern, as it is starting on the far side of my 
 pillow, and I have to stretch so much to reach to put the pins in, which 
 gives 
 me terrible backache very quickly. Has anyone any tips on how to get over 
 this, or is it just a case of slogging on with it until I have worked enough 
 for it to be within easy reach? 
 Dee Palin 
 Warwickshire 
 
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[lace] bbok

[d2oneill]

Thanks so much for your recommendation of Shay Pendray's book Needleworker's 
Companion   I found so much  information about threads, useful even for us 
non-embroiderers.  

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Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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[lace] jeweler's loupe

[d2oneill]

A jeweler's loupe is a small powerful magnifier used over only one eye, 
invaluable for detecting flaws in gem stones, but especially useful for 
lacemakers in comparing threads' thicknesses. 

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Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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[lace] lace book?

[d2oneill]

Scroll down to the ad for  The Lace Reader.  Click on learn more.  I know 
nothing about the book, but was surprised to see the images of lacemakers.
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RE: [lace] Lace bobbins

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I think cat's tail bobbins must be rosaline bobbins.  They have a small wood 
extension from the bulb at the bottom of the bobbin, handy for sewings.  Cute 
name, very descriptive, I never before heard that  term for those bobbins .   
The ones I have are so smooth, a delight to handle. 

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Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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 What are cat's tail bobbins? 
 Karen in Malta 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 bevw 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:40 PM 
 To: Clay Blackwell 
 Cc: Lace 
 Subject: Re: [lace] Lace bobbins 
 
 I think the bone vs. wood (or wood vs. bone to be diplomatic ) informal 
 opinion poll is interesting and yes isn't it wonderful we can have a 
 choice. 
 
 Clay wrote: 
 
  I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles 
  of apparatus, just for the experience. 
  
 
 I have a sort of collection like this - I have enough Spanish bobbins and a 
 large bolster to work a decent (usually Torchon) pattern with them. I even 
 use the 'continental' method (e.g. TC for half-stitch) when I work with 
 them. When I wanted to teach myself Rosaline from a book I invested in the 
 cat's tail bobbins, only 12 bobbins are needed then I got a lot more when I 
 realized how nice they are to work with for other laces. Honiton bobbins and 
 pillow for honiton lace of course when I was dabbling in that. I have lots 
 and lots of spangled midlands, almost all wood or plastic, brought out for 
 Beds or Buckspoint projects. The midlands are shelved for now while I 
 concentrate on Flanders lace and using Flemish-style bobbins for it. 
 
 I'm not into using bone, to handle it gives me the creeps. 
 Ditto when I decided to try an old Buckspoint pricking, still with its 
 eaches (sp), the linen tabs to pin it to the pillow; I rigged a midlands 
 bolster stuffed with straw and hung on antique spangled midlands I'd bought 
 on ebay - the dust of the ages was bothersome! The poor little bobbins had 
 dried out considerably since they were first used, so the authentic 
 experience was not to be had - but it had been fun assembling the components 
 :) 
 
 -- 
 Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) 
 
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Re: [lace] OIDFA Trip Days 6-8 Bayeux

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I am enjoying your descriptions of your trip so very much--your itinerary 
follows closely the lace tour I took  many years ago.  BTW, One of the best 
references I ever found on the Bayeaux Tapestry is an old National Geographic 
magazine dated August, 1966, vol. 130, No.2,(a lucky find at a local library 
booksale) which contains photographs of the entire tapestry in color, with 
short explanations of each section , and a narrative about the Norman Conquest. 
 Possibly your local library can access this, when you get home? 


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Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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 OIDFA Trip Days 6-8 Bayeux 
 
 Took an early train out of Alencon to Caen where I changed trains to Bayeux. 
 Hotel was, for me, a half hour walk from the train station but I found it. I 
 didn't know it at the time, but it was across the street from the back door 
 of 
 Hotel du Doyen (now a museum) that sometimes has lace exhibits. My first walk 
 in town located the post office, cash machine, church, and Bayeux Tapestry. 
 
 The Tapestry was one of my main goals of this trip. I had been reading books 
 about it for a year so knew it's history, story, etc, quite well. I was both 
 intrigued and appalled by the presentation. I was excited to actually see it 
 in 
 person. However...it is a number one tourist attr action like Disneyland, and 
 attracts almost as many people. There were literally hoards coming through 
 the 
 exhibit. To move the crowds along, they gave every person a tape player thing 
 to hold to the ear with the story. It took this tape about 20 minutes to tell 
 the story. If a person moved from numbered panel to numbered panel with the 
 story, they moved past the panels with very little time to really look at 
 them. 
 For a school kid, it was probably all the time and story he would be 
 interested 
 in. But for a serious study of the tapestry, it was the pits. 
 
 It began with setting the scene and told about panal 1. Then it said scenes 
 2 
  3 show... Scene 4 isand Scene 5 is A person had to almost run 
 past scenes 2-3-4 to be at 5 when it told about it. 
 
 I found a Pause button on the player, so would stop and start the story as I 
 slowly moved along. When a bus load of people came through in a herd, I would 
 sit in a window seat at the back of the aisle and wait until the crowd 
 lessened. 
 Many of the details of the story were left out of the recorded story. I'm 
 sure 
 it took me well over an hour to view the length of the tapestry. 
 
 I had three days in Bayeux, so I went back the third day and went through it 
 again. That time the Pause button would not work on my player so I just let 
 it 
 run itself out and ignored it. I spent all the time I wanted on each panel, 
 letting the crowds by and making use of the slack time between groups. Bus 
 loads of school kids came through. It was prime end-of-school excursion time 
 and Bayeux is a popular destination. This second visit let me concentrate on 
 details that I missed the first time. Thousand year old embroideries are very 
 rare. 
 
 At the first visit, I was given a brochure that I put in my purse. That first 
 evening, I read it. It was promoting a display of the Longest Embroidery in 
 the 
 World -- made in the year 2000 in Friesland, Netherlands. It was in the 
 chapel 
 next door to the Tapestry. The next day I had to seek it out. It was a series 
 of sampler panels made by many different people...all on the same fabric and 
 with the identical embroidered borders so they made a continuous strip when 
 sewn together. The center of each panel was entirely up to the embroiderer. 
 He/she had to design whatever they wanted. It was to celebrate Friesland, 
 it's 
 people, and it's history. A panel was made for each village with the village 
 name and shield, then all the panels from that village were attached. Then 
 the 
 next village, and the next. I think there were over 200 panels with a wide 
 variety of styles and subjects. 
 
 The story of each panel was in a la rge notebook. I took the time to read 
 each 
 story as I looked at the panels. Since there were no printed brochures of the 
 panels that I could easily buy, I tried to take lots of pictures...at least 
 of 
 the panels that I thought were most interesting. If you ever read of the 
 Friesland Sampler or Embroidery being displayed near you, try to see it. It's 
 well worth some effort. My third day in town I went back to this exhibit 
 again, 
 and took more pictures. 
 
 Before my trip, someone on the List said that there was supposed to be a lace 
 display at the Hotel du Doyen. My Tapestry ticket got into that museum also, 
 so 
 I went. I found out that the museum rotates displays on lace, art, and 
 pottery. 
 This time it was antique pottery made in that town. The only lace was a 
 Chantilly lappet that was draped over a huge ceramic pot, for some unknown 
 reason. 
 
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[lace] Lace Milanese patterns

[d2oneill]

Louise Colgan's  Milanese dogwood flower pattern was published in Lace Express 
magazine 2-99.  Colored Mettler thread 50/3 can be used to make it.

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Doris O'Neill in Chicago area

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[lace] lace re: interesting book on ebay

[d2oneill]

I, too, have Kaethe Kliot's book Bobbin Lace: Form by the Twisting of Cords.   
copyright 1973.  The book describes some useful tape lace techniques, in 
addition to several unusual torchon grounds.  I am curious about the 
illustrations showing four  7-inch-high tapestries (two of human figures 
against various grounds, two of birds)which the author calls design, pattern 
and execution by Gertrude Biederman.  At least two of these are variations of 
Dagobert Peche designs-the grounds are changed, also some details, but they are 
basically Dagobert Peche (of the Vienna Workshop) designs.  Does anyone have 
any other information to offer about this apparent discrepancy?  Is there a 
book of Biederman patterns?

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[lace] animal patterns

[d2oneill]

I am working Michel Jourde's horse head from Lace Express 2/04, for a 
granddaughter who recently acquired a palomino.  It is an interesting pattern, 
and fun to do, but does go rather slowly ( with as many starts and stops as a 
Honiton pattern!)  I, too, like this designer's patterns.

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[lace] OIDFA anniversary bobbin

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My gift bobbin is a purple Midlands bobbin.  I am in the Chicago, IL ( USA) 
area.  It arrived intact--a lovely surprise, already working on a pillow.

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[lace] OIDFA bulletin

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I have just received the 25-year anniversary OIDFA bulletin...what a wonderful 
way to celebrate, to include almost 40 pages of patterns, plus a bonus gift of 
a pretty bobbin!  All members will be celebrating this occasion!  

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[lace] visit

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A Lacemakers' Circle member who will be visiting in the Toronto, Canada, area 
next week would like to know if there is a lacemakers guild or embroiderers 
group in that area she might contact.  If you are aware of such a group, and 
would welcome such a contact, could you e-mail me privately? 
I can give you a phone number at which she can be reached,  or the name of her 
lace pair in Vancouver.  
Doris  O'Neill   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
USA contact for the Lacemakers' Circle.

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[lace] Lacemakers' circle USA members

[d2oneill]

In answer to several inquiries : Membership renewals to the Lacemakers' Circle 
may be made by credit card--simply add credit card number, type, expiration 
date and signature to the renewal slip you received in the current (March 2007) 
issue of the magazine.  Mail directly to the address in England which appears 
on the slip.  (I am the USA contact for the Circle,  and will forward any slips 
mailed to me, but please do not put credit card numbers in e-mail to me.)  

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[lace] tension for a wool bolster

[d2oneill]

If you have no one to help create tension as you wind the felted material 
around the core,  open a window (sash type), and close it on one end of the 
material. Then begin winding, pulling hard against the end caught in the 
window.   I have done two bolsters this way: they are nice and firm.

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[lace] Virginia Bath's book Lace

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Was anyone else lucky enough to buy the hardcover edition with the marvelous 
dustjacket picture of a colored lace?That small piece is in the Art 
Institute of Chicago's collection, and was part of their one-and-only lace 
exhibit a few years ago.  

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Re: [lace] Four Seasons

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Geraldine Stott .Four Seasons  four little motifs in Bucks Point Lace.

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 I'm looking for the prickings for a set of four small panels, each one 
 showing one of the four seasons. 
 
 I've found pictures of a square set in New Designs in Bobbin Lace by Ann 
 Collier, and the prickings for a set with different shaped outlines in 100 
 New Bobbin Lace Patterns by Yusai Fukuyama, but neither of them is the set 
 I'm sure I've seen somewhere. I can't think where I've seen them or find 
 them in any of my books or magazines - but then I can be blind when looking 
 for things. I thought there was a set in one edition of 'Kant' magazine, but 
 could only find Christmas scenes. 
 
 To save me wasting any more time going through my magazines, etc, again has 
 anyone knowledge of others. You usually come up trumps for finding 
 prickings. 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
 
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