Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Sue Babbs]

And I bought it when I first heard it was in print.  Definitely worth 
getting.  I put it on the demo table at the Chicago Botanic Garden so that I 
could talk about historical lace in the USA



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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

I'm not waiting for Christmas, nor do I trust my elves to bring me all the
lace books I want. I have this book, among others, on order (and I hope in
the mail), and a bunch of CDs on my wish list!!

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Adele Shaak  wrote:

>
> But honestly, doesn’t all this talk make you want to put Karen’s book
on
> your Christmas list?
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
MA
> a point ground lace?

If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope I’d be making a
different pattern. ;-)

But honestly, doesn’t all this talk make you want to put Karen’s book on
your Christmas list?

Adele

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making
the same pattern ;-)

Adele

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein  wrote:
>
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
MA
> a point ground lace?

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[lace] Ipswich lace

[DevonThein]

Karen writes:
Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it
might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are
Torchon variations and Kat stitch.  The only time point ground was used in the
22 samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.  You may want to see
them in my book The Lace Samples From Ipswich, Massachusetts 1789-1790.  It is
available through some lace dealers as well as Amazon

But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich, MA
a point ground lace? This conversation started out as a discussion of working
point ground lace without pins, which this pillow appears to confirm. What are
we looking at?

Was the 90 year old lacemaker well into her dotage and essentially winging it,
perhaps for a demonstration?
I have been working the Running River and am planning to do it at the Bust
Craftacular in Greenpoint, Brooklyn tomorrow. (Brooklyn Expo Center, 11-7.)
The Brooklyn Lace Guild will have a booth. I was thinking of trying out the
idea of working pinless in the point ground. I share Lyn’s confusion about
why there are two rows of pin holes that are not used. I, for one, think that
the 90 year old lacemaker should have made the row that she used as her edge
row a winkie pin row, and the row to the left of that her edge row. I think
that the winkie pin (hope that is the right term for pinning to the side of
the pair when returning to the edge)  would help to align the entire row.
Devon



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[lace] Ipswich lace

[Karen Thompson]

Maureen, Nancy and others,
Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might 
look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon 
variations and Kat stitch.  The only time point ground was used in the 22 
samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.  You may want to see them 
in my book The Lace Samples From Ipswich, Massachusetts 1789-1790.  It is 
available through some lace dealers as well as Amazon. 
Since I subscribe to the digest version I have not been able to respond 
immediately. My apologies.

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[lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are 
*not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake 
myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon 
ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. 

Adele
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are 
*not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake 
myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon 
ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. 

Adele
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(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Gon Homburg]

Hi Maureen and Nancy,

I thought that one of the characteristics of the Ipswich MA lace is the often 
different angle of the grid in the ground and in the motifs. The angle in the 
ground is 66° or 52° and in the motifs often 45°. Karen Thompson says the same 
thing in her book The Lace Samples from Ipswich Massachusetts. We also 
discovered that reconstructing some samples for the book of Maria Cotterell.

Happy lacing

Gon Homburg from a rainy and cold Amsterdam, The Netherlands



> Op 9 dec. 2017, om 12:06 heeft Maureen  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Nancy
> 
> Thank you.  I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very
> similar to Bucks Point.  I think I need to see a book to compare.  
> 
> 
> HI Maureen
> 
> Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
> know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
> black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.
> 
> Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
> your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
> experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?
> 
> Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.
> 
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
> 
> Maureen 
> E Yorks UK
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Devon Thein]

I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA 
and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace 
industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an 
anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of many, 
all very similar.

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RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Maureen]

Hi Nancy

Thank you.  I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very
similar to Bucks Point.  I think I need to see a book to compare.  


HI Maureen

Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.

Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?

Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

Maureen 
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Maureen,

Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.

Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?

Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Maureen  wrote:

> What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts
> please?

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RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Maureen]

Dear Nancy

What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts
please?  I am sure I should know, or at least know where to look but my main
computer often deletes part of an email, no matter who the service provider
is.


Hi Daphne,

Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about
lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

Maureen
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[lace] Ipswich lace pillow

[Ann Humphreys]

Thank you Karen. That’s all I wanted to know. 
Ann
UK

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

[Adele Shaak]

Thanks Karen for posting this URL - I had lost any previous messages that had
this link.

What fun I had looking at the photos! If you haven’t tried the link yet -
they are high definition photos. Click on the photo so that it fills the page,
and then you can zoom in so close you can see the fuzzies on the thread! You
can also zoom out so it’s just a little tiny thing but I don’t understand
the value of that feature.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


> On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Karen Thompson 
wrote:
>
> I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri
> wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow.  Under
> the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is
> in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA. You can find
> it by searching: Smithsonian lace collection, and scrolling to the next to
> the last object or
> http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_644978

> By clicking on the title of the Ipswich lace pillow entry, several pictures
> are available. The text on the label says: "She lived to be over 90, worked
> on this pillow the day she died. She feared she lacked "dying grace" but
> God took her while she knelt in prayer". Hope this clarifies.

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[lace] Ipswich Lace bobbin

[Brian Lemin]

Hello again after a long time! Smile.

I just would like to let you good folks know that despite many efforts via
the USA over the years I do not have a genuine "antique" Ipswich bobbin.

A few pictures of such a bobbin would suffice for my purposes, especially
showing the "hollow" nature of it, together with your permission to use it
in any of my academic articles.

Can anyone help please?

With special thanks to the Diana Smith collection of Antique Lace Bobbins I
have finally completed  "A Dictionary of English Antique Lace Bobbins and
Lace Making Paraphernalia" and a "Collectors Guide to English Antique Lace
Bobbins".  

I have a few feelers out there to get help to publish these documents on the
Internet.  I will let you know when , (if) they get published.

Have a happy time over the celebrations of this time of the year.

Brian

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[lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

[Karen Thompson]

Dear Ann,

I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri
wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow.  Under
the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is
in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA. You can find
it by searching: Smithsonian lace collection, and scrolling to the next to
the last object or
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_644978
By clicking on the title of the Ipswich lace pillow entry, several pictures
are available. The text on the label says: "She lived to be over 90, worked
on this pillow the day she died. She feared she lacked "dying grace" but
God took her while she knelt in prayer". Hope this clarifies.

Karen, currently at snowy Bethany Beach, DE, but as often in Washington, DC


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 21:46:33 +
From: Ann Humphreys 
Subject: [lace] Ipswich style pillow

I didn’t receive any replies to my question so I will  try again.
I can read the first few lines of the tag.
(She lived to be over 90 and worked on this pillow the day she died)
I can’t decipher the rest but would like to know.

Ann
UK

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Daphne,

Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about
lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Daphne Martin  wrote:

> Hello
> Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a brilliant
> job by showing pictures,diagrams etc. Nicky researched this lace,as can be
> seen in her book Suffolk Lace.
>
> Daphne  Norwich Uk.
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[lace] Ipswich lace

[Daphne Martin]

Hello
Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a brilliant job by 
showing pictures,diagrams etc. Nicky researched this lace,as can be seen in her 
book Suffolk Lace.

Daphne  Norwich Uk.

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Diane Williams]

The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that
I can find.  It's on my bucket list to visit there some day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house
 
Diane Williams 
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Galena Illinois USA 
My blog -
http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/



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John Mead johnbobm...@gmail.com

Shell-

I just searched the archive under
Ipswich, and on the second page there's a
link to materials held at the
Library of Congress.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there
were other posts
that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich,
etc., so I'd say
an archive trawl might be useful.

Yours,

John Mead
Tacoma,
WA, USA, where the dandelions are [unfortunately] in bloom.

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jill Hawkins]

Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing the
lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed much of
the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group
site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/   You will need to join the
group to view the photographs.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[lynrbailey]

I visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed.  I went 
without any prior arrangements.  There is one bolster pillow, maybe two, some 
bobbins, a few examples of the lace, some prickings, but very little else.  All 
in one small case.  I believe some people from the local lace groups go in and 
study it, probably with prior arrangements, and hopefully they see more.  If 
you're in the neighborhood it is worth the trip, I was on my way from 
Pennsylvania to Maine, Ipswich is north of Boston, Massachusetts, just a bit.  
However it is not really worth a special trip.  The Laces of Ipswich book 
provides much more information and examples.  I wonder what the Library of 
Congress can provide.  I was on the IOLI Convention, Bethesda trip to see the 
laces there, and there was a lot, but I don't know what an individual could see 
with prior arrangement.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA

Diane wrote:
The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that
I can find.  It's on my bucket list to visit there some day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house


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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Diane Williams]

Thanks for the reminder Jill.  I'm a member of this Yahoo group and I remember
that they posted MANY photos of the lace collections.  The laces though are
not all Ipswich-made.  I wonder if Shell, the original poster, is interested
in the Ipswich-made laces from the late 18th-century or all the laces in the
collection in Ipswich?
 
Diane Williams 
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena
Illinois USA 
My blog - http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

 From: Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk
Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing
the
lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed
much of
the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group
site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/   You will need to join the
group to view the photographs.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jill Hawkins]

You do need to make special arrangements to see what is in the archived
collection - which is substantial, by the way, although it is not all Ipswich
lace.  The New England Lace Group made a field trip a couple of years' ago and
were rewarded with a splendid display.  If you know you're going to be in the
area, I think it would be worthwhile contacting them.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jeriames]

Oh!  The stories to tell!  
 
Two Maine lace makers went down to the Whipple House (Colonial Period  
historic property owned by the Ipswich Historical Society) to view lace  years 
ago.  The curator was contacted in advance, so we were  expected.
 
We were shown to an upper room, where short cuts of black Ipswich  Laces 
reconstructed years before by Michael Auclair, were  arranged on a dusty, 
sunny window sill.  They were in  dirty cellophane wraps, and there were 
silverfish present.   Horrors!  We'll never forget it.
 
Across the street was a Victorian era house, also owned by the Historical  
Society.  We went to take a look.  There was an elderly male  docent.  We 
were able to see some framed embroideries in the period rooms,  then asked if 
we could go upstairs.  The docent did not go with  us.  In the large hallway 
at the top of the stairs there was an arrangement  of antique toys.  There 
were antique embroidered samplers hung on the  walls.  Sun was pouring in 
the windows.  No thought to fading samplers  or to people handling the toys.
 
Historical property officers and volunteers change with the years.   This 
was a bad period, offering much to learn about levels of  responsibility.  
Yes, the New England Lace Group sometimes volunteers here,  but they would 
have no real say in what happens to the lace collection.
 
Since our visit, the lace collection from the late Michael  Auclair has 
been donated.  He was a personal friend of mine in New York in  the 1970-80's, 
a fellow member of the now-defunct Lace Guild of New York,  where we could 
meet the lace experts from New York's museums and visiting  lace scholars 
from around the world, and attend wonderful  lace conservation lectures.
 
A couple years ago, I went to the Library of Congress to see their  
examples of Ipswich Lace with a group that attended the International Old  
Lacers 
convention.  We were able to see the real things - lace examples  that were 
sent shortly after the Revolutionary War to illustrate a  lace industry in 
Ipswich and correspondence.  No other industry made  something that could be 
sent by mail to the new government.  The Library  showed us books, but they 
were rather dull.  The original  lace samples were worth seeing, but I 
think it is quite rare to bring them  out for viewing.  Three staff members 
were 
in the room to protect these  treasurers. 
 
The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel, 156 pages, University  
Press of New England, $25, is worth owning, if you are American.  In  addition 
to history and photographs, there are 6 lace prickings/patterns in  the 
book.  At time of publication there was a Arachne discussion about  the 
footsides of the lace being inconsistent, so be prepared for  that. 
 
There was an article in the OIDFA Bulletin 3 - 2010 about this  lace. 
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
I  visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed.  I  
went without any prior arrangements   I wonder what the Library  of 
Congress can provide.  I was on the IOLI Convention, Bethesda trip to  see the 
laces there ...but I don't know what an individual could see with  prior 
arrangement.   
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,  USA

Diane wrote:
The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is  supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they  don't have any photos on their website 
that
I can find.  It's on  my bucket list to visit there some  day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-hous
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Ilske Thomsen]

Shell,
together with some American ladies I helped the Ipswich Museum to identify the 
laces from Ipswich Museum. I am sure you could find them in internet.

Ilske

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[lace] Ipswich lace

[Karen Thompson]

Shell and others,
Since I subscribe to the digest, I just saw the posts about Ipswich. I
think your question has been answered well by other members. Marta
Cotterells book Ipswich Laces is the most comprehensive. The black silk
Ipswich laces from 1789-90 are some of the best documented early
handmade laces made in the US, as 21 samples exist in good shape at the
Library of Congress in Washington, DC. Anyone can go there and study them.
I have reconstructed most of them at this point. They are fascinating as
they all have many quirks. Some, if not most, were probably made by
pricking a pattern from a snippet of lace. They are not as regular as we
are used to today. The few that have more than one pattern repeat shows
quite a difference between the two repeats. The number of twists in the
picots and grounds vary a lot within each piece. These laces were made for
sale, not as a leisure time activity. Two of the lace samples do not have a
full repeat, and it is the same pattern with two different grounds. (They
are among those I have not reproduced yet).  Point ground (as in current
Buck's Point) was only used as a filling in one of the samples.  It was a
very new technique in the 1790. At this point we do not know who introduced
lace making to Ipswich Ipswich, Massachusetts, or when, only that a quarter
of all females in Ipswich made lace in 1789-90. Hard to imagine today.

Karen in Washington, DC

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[lace] Ipswich Lace

[Shell]

I have tried in vain to find a photo or much information about this 
lace.  I only found the one article online by Jeri Ames about this. But 
so far no photos, images, or prickings. Am I missing it?


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Smile!

Shell

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[John Mead]

Shell-

I just searched the archive under Ipswich, and on the second page there's a
link to materials held at the Library of Congress.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there were other posts
that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich, etc., so I'd say
an archive trawl might be useful.

Yours,

John Mead
Tacoma, WA, USA, where the dandelions are [unfortunately] in bloom.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Shell she11yg...@verizon.net wrote:

 I have tried in vain to find a photo or much information about this lace.
  I only found the one article online by Jeri Ames about this. But so far no
 photos, images, or prickings. Am I missing it?

 --
 Smile!

 Shell

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[lace] Ipswich Lace

[d2oneill]

And, of course, the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel. 

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[lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[Dmt11home]

I have received an inquiry from a man who would like to see examples of  
Ipswich lace, preferably in the geographical area of Ipswich. I have Marta  
Cotterall's book and from that, it would seem that the best examples are  
actually in Washington, DC. How easy it is to access any of these, I do not  
know.
 
In addition, there seem to be less well provenanced examples, mostly of  
equipment, some of which was tampered with during the Colonial Revival  
period, pictured in her book that belong to the Ipswich Historical Society,  
the 
Peabody-Essex Museum, and the Society for the Preservation of New England  
Antiquities.
 
A few years ago, I was in Salem, and I saw a lacemaker demonstrating. I  
asked her where one could access Ipswich lace and she told me it was being 
moved  from some location to another. This would be after Cotterall's book was  
published, so I am unsure whether the items are still where they were when 
she  published the book.
 
Does anyone know of the location of any Ipswich lace or equipment that is  
either on display or that one could see by appointment?
 
Devon

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[Vicki Bradford]

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.


Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[lynrbailey]

I emailed the museum this morning, asking what was on display, and was there 
any more Ipswich lace etc. on display anywhere else.  I will let all spiders 
know when I hear anything.  They list lace, pillows and other artifacts on 
their list of collections, but that doesn't mean it's on display, just that 
they have it.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's cool, and sunny, with no rain for 
quite a while.  Indian Summer come early.  


-Original Message-
From: Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com
Sent: Aug 27, 2010 4:52 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.

Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[colonialartist]

The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture on the 
history of Ipswich lace.  I found it very interesting and I always wanted to go 
to Ipswich after taking this class. Still want to.  Hope someday to get there.. 
 I heard that some black lace owned by Martha still survived.  Black lace 
usually disintegrates over time due to the black dyes were acidic or something 
like that. 

Faye 
Drumore, Pa. and having a quiet time at home..

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From: Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:52:38 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.

Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[Vicki Bradford]

That lecture was given by Marta Cotterell Raffel, author of The Laces 
of Ipswich.

Vicki

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Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture 
on the history of Ipswich lace.  I found it very interesting and I 
always wanted to go to Ipswich after taking this class. Still want to.  
Hope someday to get there..  I heard that some black lace owned by 
Martha still survived.  Black lace usually disintegrates over time due 
to the black dyes were acidic or something like that.


Faye
Drumore, Pa. and having a quiet time at home..

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[lace] Ipswich lace request

[Elise and Scott Hays]

Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding prickings. I was glad to
hear that 6 patterns were in the book I have ordered. I expect it to arrive
today or tomorrow and I am looking forward to reading it!
Thanks again,
Elise

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace prickings

[Jeriames]

Dear Arachnids,
 
Elise lives near me.  I'm able to take care of her  questions.
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:14:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
drswilli...@yahoo.com writes:

She  doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing the  
Ipswich
patterns from the lace samples in the Library of Congress.   I've purchased
about 6 or 8 different patterns from her.  Karen is  listed in the IOLI
directory, has written several articles for Piecework  magazine, and I think
she's on this list.
Diane Williams  
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena Illinois
USA 
My blog -  http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

From:  Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net
To: Lace Arachne  lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:43:18  PM
Subject: [lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

On May 12, 2009, at  18:20, Elise
Hays wrote:

 I have the book The Laces of Ipswich  by Marta Cotterell Raffel
 on order, but from what I can gather it is  more of a history and has no

patterns.

It does have some  patterns in it; 6, to be precise. As far as I
know, it's the only book that  has ever attempted the reproduction of the
Ipswich lace.

-- Tamara P  Duvall 
http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia,  USA(Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] Ipswich lace prickings

[Elise and Scott Hays]

 Does anyone know of a book of prickings (preferably with diagrams) for
Ipswich lace? I have the book The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel
on order, but from what I can gather it is more of a history and has no
patterns.  I know that examples of the lace and prickings exist, but I don't
know if anyone has compiled them into a collection or diagramed them. I tried
to contact the Ipswich museum but they are closed till Memorial Day. Anyone
out there know of such a thing?
Thank you!
Elise

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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carolyn Hastings]

I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were
embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of a
single person.  And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I would
estimate around 10 panels?)

Carolyn

 -Original Message-
 From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM
 To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,
 
 Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?
 She
 lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I
 think
 still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as
 you can
 imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made
 for
 Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the
 one, and
 was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.
 
 Carol - Suffolk UK
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Carolyn Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
 Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 
  Dear Katrina,
 
  I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of
 my
  message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really
 wasn't
  referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to the
 lace
  that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich
 Historical
  Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and
 were
  donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the
 connection
  of
  the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace
  industry
  here in New England.
 
  As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of
 embroidery
  that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer
 in
  Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and talent,
 in
  addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your**
 Ipswich.
 
  I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged
 to be
  so close to a historical lacemaking center.
 
  Best,
  Carolyn
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of Katrina longmuir
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
  Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace
 in
  paragraph 5)
 
  Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I
 said I
  was
  Katrina in
  a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
  found the
  man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
  justice after
  all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.
 
  In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the
  background
  of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to
 obtain
  further information.
 
  It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of
  the town
  I live in
  where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to
 hear
  the
  history and to
  dip into the background of something we love so much.
  Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -
  best
  regards from
 
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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carolyn Hastings]

No idea why I phrased the last email that way -- I meant those to be
statements, not questions.

Carolyn

 -Original Message-
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 Of Carolyn Hastings
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: 'Carol Adkinson'; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were
 embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of
 a
 single person.  And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I
 would
 estimate around 10 panels?)
 
 Carolyn
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM
  To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  lace@arachne.com
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
  Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,
 
  Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?
  She
  lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I
  think
  still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as
  you can
  imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made
  for
  Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the
  one, and
  was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.
 
  Carol - Suffolk UK
 
 
 
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  To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  lace@arachne.com
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
  Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 
   Dear Katrina,
  
   I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace
 of
  my
   message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really
  wasn't
   referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to
 the
  lace
   that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich
  Historical
   Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and
  were
   donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the
  connection
   of
   the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace
   industry
   here in New England.
  
   As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of
  embroidery
   that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this
 summer
  in
   Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and
 talent,
  in
   addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your**
  Ipswich.
  
   I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel
 privileged
  to be
   so close to a historical lacemaking center.
  
   Best,
   Carolyn
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf
   Of Katrina longmuir
   Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
   Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace
  in
   paragraph 5)
  
   Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I
  said I
   was
   Katrina in
   a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
   found the
   man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
   justice after
   all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.
  
   In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear
 the
   background
   of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to
  obtain
   further information.
  
   It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought
 of
   the town
   I live in
   where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to
  hear
   the
   history and to
   dip into the background of something we love so much.
   Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters
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   best
   regards from
  
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carol Adkinson]

Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,

Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?   She 
lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I think 
still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as you can 
imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made for 
Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the one, and 
was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.


Carol - Suffolk UK



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From: Carolyn Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)



Dear Katrina,

I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my
message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really wasn't
referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to the lace
that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich Historical
Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and were
donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the connection 
of
the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace 
industry

here in New England.

As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of embroidery
that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer in
Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and talent, in
addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** Ipswich.

I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged to be
so close to a historical lacemaking center.

Best,
Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Katrina longmuir
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in
paragraph 5)

Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I
was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
justice after
all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.

In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the
background
of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain
further information.

It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of
the town
I live in
where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to hear
the
history and to
dip into the background of something we love so much.
Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -
best
regards from

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[lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carolyn Hastings]

Dear Katrina,

I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my
message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really wasn't
referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to the lace
that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich Historical
Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and were
donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the connection of
the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace industry
here in New England.

As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of embroidery
that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer in
Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and talent, in
addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** Ipswich.

I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged to be
so close to a historical lacemaking center.

Best,
Carolyn

 -Original Message-
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 Of Katrina longmuir
 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
 Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in
 paragraph 5)
 
 Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I
 was
 Katrina in
 a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
 found the
 man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
 justice after
 all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.
 
 In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the
 background
 of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain
 further information.
 
 It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of
 the town
 I live in
 where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to hear
 the
 history and to
 dip into the background of something we love so much.
 Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -
 best
 regards from
 
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[lace] Ipswich Lace

[nicky.hoewener-townsend]

Hello Katrina
Have just been catching up on the latest couple of digests and needless to 
say picked up on the Ipswich lace theme and then spotted that you are from 
Ipswich, Suffolk. Have you ever been along to a Suffolk Lacemakers Lace Day? 
There are several held fairly close to Ipswich, ie at Kesgrave in September 
and Martlesham in May. We've just had one at Wickham Market, hall was filled 
to capacity. There are currently around 160 members of SLM.
I live to the north east of the county and am currently researching the 
Suffolk Lace industry - yes we did have one once.


Sue H, so pleased to hear that your DIL and grandchildren are all ok, there 
have been some really nasty accidents just lately.


Nicky  in Suffolk UK


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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Ilske Thomsen]

Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.


Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[clayblackwell]

Thanks to all of you who answered my question.  I haven't taken the time to 
learn more about Ipswich.  Now I know something of what it *isn't*...  should 
probably try to learn more about what it is.  ; )

Clay

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 Clay, 
 it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
 find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place. 
 
 Ilske 
 
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Regina Haring]

Here's a picture of a bit of Ipswich lace 
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html


The ground is very heavy and the effect is nowhere near as attractive as the 
eBay sample.


Regina

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Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.


Ilske



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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Katrina longmuir]

What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was Ipswich
USA not Ipswich where
 I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Brenda Paternoster]

Definitely hand made point ground lace, but without a powerful 
magnifier and the OIDFA PG study book it's impossible to to be any more 
precise because it's fairly simple pattern so likely to have been 
made/made in more than one of the point ground areas.


Brenda

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There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace.  It 
is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - 
signalling the likelihood that it is handmade.  It is being sold from 
Pennsylvania.  I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace?


Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement 
on that?


Here's the URL:  http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh

Thanks for your ideas on this.  I'm totally in the dark when it 
comes to Ipswich.


Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

[Jeriames]

In a message dated 2/21/2008 11:19:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What a  shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was 
Ipswich
USA  not Ipswich where
I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my  'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..


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Dear ???  (no signature)
 
Sorry for your disappointment.  I am surprised you have not heard  references 
to Ipswich lace, because Americans have referred to it quite often on  
Arachne.
 
On September 12, 2007, I replied privately to a lady in the UK who  asked 
about Ipswich Lace, and the text of that letter with some  additions (no copy 
sent that time to Arachne) may be more than you  want to know, but informative 
to 
others.
 
Ipswich Lace was made in Ipswich Massachusetts, north of Boston and near  the 
Atlantic coast, in the Colonial period.  One wearer of the lace was  Martha 
Washington, wife of the first President.  It was a cottage industry,  and at 
one time there were 600 lacemakers within the town of 601  households.
 
The lace has the distinction of being the only one associated with an  
American handmade lace industry.  At no other place in America found so  far, 
was 
lace made, collected, and sold, as a somewhat organized business  enterprise.  
It was made of white cotton or linen, or very often of black  silk.
 
Pat Earnshaw (British author of lace books) describes it as similar to  point 
de Paris, or the black Erzegebrige laces of Saxony.  Nearly always, I  have 
seen it in black.  Look in Pat Earnshaw's book, A Dictionary of  Lace, p. 5  
p. 86 for text only, no pictures.  You can also look in  lace identification 
books, though it will not be in many.  Look under  American lace and look 
under Ipswich lace.  Those who have been  asking about Pilgrims wearing 
lace, read brief text on p. 5 of this  book!
 
An aside:  The late Michael Auclair belonged to the same Lace Guild of  New 
York that I belonged to in the 1970's.  He was a collector of  antique laces, 
and made lace for restoration projects at museums.   He reproduced black 
samples of the Ipswich Lace held by the Library of  Congress.  These were 
intended 
to be displayed in the  Whipple House (museum) in Ipswich, MA.  If they were 
the same samples I saw  just a few years ago at the Whipple House, they were 
(during my visit) encased  in dirty plastic envelopes accompanied by silverfish 
(insects).   Ugh!  Too memorable to forget.  End of aside. 
 
There is a book of 156 pages The Laces of Ipswich - The Art and Economics  
of an Early American Industry, 1750-1840 by Marta Cotterell Raffel, paperback, 
 printed by University Press of New England - _www.upne.com_ 
(http://www.upne.com) , ISBN 1-58465-163-6, soft cover,  original cost $25 in 
2003.
 
Prior to publication of the (above) book, Marta M. Cotterell presented  a 
paper The Laces of Ipswich, Massachusetts: An American Industry, 1750-1840  
at 
the Dublin Seminar for New England Folklife Annual Proceedings in 1997.   This 
earlier, shorter treatment of her subject appears in Textiles in Early New  
England: Design, Production, and Consumption published by Boston  University. 
 Another article in this book is Lace Schools and Lace  Factories: Female 
Outwork in New England's Machine-Lace Industry, 1818-1838 by  Richard M. 
Candee. 
 
Anyone could do a search via Google, or whatever search engine you  use, for 
Ipswich Lace (American).  Also search the author's name  separately.  
 
This particular item, Ipswich Lace, has the distinction of having  examples 
in the Library of Congress, Washington, D.C.  In the very early  days of the 
United States, requests went out from the central government to  communities to 
send detailed information about industries.   Enclosed with information about 
Ipswich Laces were short cuttings of  several examples.  Most industries could 
not send examples in a letter  envelope, but lace was something that could be 
enclosed - and was.
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center




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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

[Katrina longmuir]

Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is justice after
all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.

In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the background
of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain
further information.

It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of the town
I live in
where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to hear the
history and to
dip into the background of something we love so much.
Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -best
regards from

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[lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[clayblackwell]

There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace.  It is very 
simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling the 
likelihood that it is handmade.  It is being sold from Pennsylvania.  I wonder 
if this is some Ipswich lace?  

Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on that?  

Here's the URL:  http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh

Thanks for your ideas on this.  I'm totally in the dark when it comes to 
Ipswich.

Clay

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Regina Haring]

To me this lace has the characteristics of a very simple Chantilly - 
couldn't that be a Tulle ground?  The motifs are outlined in gimp and look 
like half stitch (not linen) and there are picots on the edge - all 
essential to Chantilly.  Chantilly was made by machine as early as the 
1870's.

Regina

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Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?


There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace.  It is 
very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling 
the likelihood that it is handmade.  It is being sold from Pennsylvania. 
I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace?


Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on 
that?


Here's the URL:  http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh

Thanks for your ideas on this.  I'm totally in the dark when it comes to 
Ipswich.


Clay

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Lynchburg, VA USA

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