Re: [lace] Re London
Hi Jo, when I visited the Fan Museum in 2000 my DH and sons went to see the Cutty Sark, http://www.cuttysark.org.uk/ it's only about 5-10 mins walk from the museum and they enjoyed it much more than fans so I got to browse in peace. jenny barron Scotland But I have to be carefull to make it a trip for us both and not biased too much to my interest. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re London
I don't think the Gypsy Moth is there at the momentshe's on another around the world trip to commemorate the 40th anniversary of Chichester's original voyage. Her only stop on this journey was Sydney within the last week or so. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malvary J Cole Sent: 07 August 2006 11:58 To: arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Re London The boat ride down the Thames is very enjoyable. If your husband isn't interested in going to the fan museum he can change boats in Greenwich (after he has looked at the Cutty Sark and Gypsy Moth (Chichester sailed singled handed round the world in it) and take another tour to look at the Thames Barrier - a great engineering feat to help prevent London from being flooded. However, you might want to do that too, it is very interesting. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re London
"Jo Falkink" wrote > The fan-museum sounds reachable too, at its website says it's only 30 minutes by boat, perhaps faster by underground / Light Railway though we might loose time when changing trains. Would the boat trip be an additional touristic attraction too? The boat ride down the Thames is very enjoyable. If your husband isn't interested in going to the fan museum he can change boats in Greenwich (after he has looked at the Cutty Sark and Gypsy Moth (Chichester sailed singled handed round the world in it) and take another tour to look at the Thames Barrier - a great engineering feat to help prevent London from being flooded. However, you might want to do that too, it is very interesting. Malvary in Ottawa - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re London
I heartily second that - plus Greenwich has the National Maritime Museum, the Royal Observatory (with a fascinating collection of old clocks, as well as a brass line in the ground so that you can straddle the meridian) and the Queen's House. http://www.nmm.ac.uk/ The park is lovely to walk through, and Greenwich used to have some lovely restaurants too. I lived in neighbouring Blackheath for about 15 years and never tired of the area. The tower of London is wonderful to visit too Sue - Original Message - From: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jo Falkink" Dont miss the boat trip it is most enjoyable, I took my family down to Greenwich by boat and we also visited the tea clipper "Cutty Sark" which the menfolk enjoyed tremendously. The fan-museum sounds reachable too, at its website says it's only 30 minutes by boat, perhaps faster by underground / Light Railway though we might loose time when changing trains. Would the boat trip be an additional touristic attraction too? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dont miss the boat trip it is most enjoyable, I took my family down to Greenwich by boat and we also visited the tea clipper "Cutty Sark" which the menfolk enjoyed tremendously. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jo Falkink Sent: 06 August 2006 21:59 To: arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Re London Thanks for the quick responses, my compilation so far: The Royal and Albert museum sounds like a safe option as there would be enough other things to see when my husband gets bored. However, in my husbands opinion museums should be reserved for rainy days. I suppose London has enough of them, but only 4 days (3 nights) might also be just sunny. Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace will most likely be on the program from a general touristic point of view. Probably Kensington Palace too. I'll check for details so I won't miss something interesting. The fan-museum sounds reachable too, at its website sais it's only 30 minutes by boat, perhaps faster by underground / Light Railway though we might loose time when changing trains. Would the boat trip be an additional touristic attraction too? But I have to be carefull to make it a trip for us both and not biased too much to my interest. Once I've been very lucky. The exhibition I wanted to visit, was under one roof with old-timers (cars) so that sounded OK allready. Uppon entering my husband recognised the owner as a former boss! So he had a good time with him, and I with his wife. Private guided tours as their were no other visitors at the time. The torch and "wearing a small visible bit of lace" sounds like a good idea, but I don't know yet exactly what. Usually I frame my projects. But at least I have my bookmark sleeves with rejected fragments to put in the tourist guide. I'm afraid Pat Earnshaw's "The identification of lace" (the Dutch translation) will be too heavy for our usual hand-luggage-only strategy. The date is not fixed yet, I don't know yet what all the variables are. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Victoria & Albert ("V & A") is a most marvelous place, don't miss it! One could spend a month there, happily. I even got waylaid by the gift shop, which is to other museum gift shops as Fairyland is to the real world. You will love the whole experience! -- Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re London
Thanks for the quick responses, my compilation so far: The Royal and Albert museum sounds like a safe option as there would be enough other things to see when my husband gets bored. However, in my husbands opinion museums should be reserved for rainy days. I suppose London has enough of them, but only 4 days (3 nights) might also be just sunny. Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace will most likely be on the program from a general touristic point of view. Probably Kensington Palace too. I'll check for details so I won't miss something interesting. The fan-museum sounds reachable too, at its website sais it's only 30 minutes by boat, perhaps faster by underground / Light Railway though we might loose time when changing trains. Would the boat trip be an additional touristic attraction too? But I have to be carefull to make it a trip for us both and not biased too much to my interest. Once I've been very lucky. The exhibition I wanted to visit, was under one roof with old-timers (cars) so that sounded OK allready. Uppon entering my husband recognised the owner as a former boss! So he had a good time with him, and I with his wife. Private guided tours as their were no other visitors at the time. The torch and "wearing a small visible bit of lace" sounds like a good idea, but I don't know yet exactly what. Usually I frame my projects. But at least I have my bookmark sleeves with rejected fragments to put in the tourist guide. I'm afraid Pat Earnshaw's "The identification of lace" (the Dutch translation) will be too heavy for our usual hand-luggage-only strategy. The date is not fixed yet, I don't know yet what all the variables are. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: London Bombings & Personal Emergency List
In a message dated 7/11/2005 1:43:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first reaction was to agree with her comment about London being a big place because I remember just enough from my study of statistics at University to figure out how unlucky one would be in a city of 7 () million people to be in one of those locations at that vital point in time. Statistically the odds against it are very large. This is true. I read a book once -- the name and title escape me now -- by a police expert on avoiding dangerous situations. Among his bits of advice, he made the point very effectively that people tend to over-react to situations like these, and it doesn't help to panic or overestimate risk: quite the contrary! And I agree with those who advocate tolerance and understanding toward our gentle e-community here Ricki Torrey Salt Lake City, Utah - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: London Bombings & Personal Emergency List
"Clay Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Dora wrote, > > > > I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large > > > enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! > > To which Tamara responded, > > And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on > > laughing out loud for many years to come. > > (snip) I don't > know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that > she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many > people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was > laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! I must admit that I also read Dora's message in a totally different way than which others here seemed to have read it. She didn't upset me at all and I have lived through a mail bomb attempt on the life of my husband, have lived behind a police cordon during an IRA seige in London in the 1970s (Balcombe St seige for those who remember) and stood on a the same London platform where the IRA planted 40lb of plastic explosives packed around with coach bolts. My first reaction was to agree with her comment about London being a big place because I remember just enough from my study of statistics at University to figure out how unlucky one would be in a city of 7 () million people to be in one of those locations at that vital point in time. Statistically the odds against it are very large. Fran - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings & Personal Emergency List
i hate to see people slammed or flamed because someone jumped to conclusions. it seems everything anyone says is wrong sometimes even if they meant well. i have been there, and i don't want to argue with anyone. i am not getting involved with any side of any story, but i think it would have been nice to not have 100 people writing nasty letters to myself or someone else because of one letter that someone misunderstood. i didn't read Dora's letter, but if she is going through what i already had to a while ago, i hope the moderator will do her job and put a stop to it. iI'msure i am the last person any of you would have liked to have a response from! i am also sure eevery timemy name is on this list someone cringes, but i don't really care. this website is a nice way to learn lace as a hobby, and it is also nice to talk to others who can help each other out when they are confused or totally lost. it's a shame people aren't as careful as they wish ootherswere about what they write. i see a lot of careless aaccusationsabout other countries and other people's governments, but i see no one flaming or slamming them. i wish other people on this website would acknowledge the letters as you know they were meant to be for each letter that someone sends that says something different. if everyone on this website would do that, then these things would die down quicker. Making someone feel like they have been alienated by an entire list of people who are usually quick to reply to anything could be turned around if the lurkers would send a nice letter like what was just sent by clay blackwell. I'll remind you again i don't really care what you think, but I'll bet we are all hoping to here more about what was in Dora's bag then what someone took so offensively in her letter. we can all have one then,, and i think we are all going to need them. in America we have our emergency car bags that include a blanket, candles, flares, jumper cables, food, bottled water, flashlights, pocket knives, rope, a tarp, chains, and a battery powered radio that will pick up weather channels. what could someone carry around with them to help them in an emergency like this? i also agree with Dora because i don't drive. i walk, ride a bike or find a ride with someone. i usually carry a purse with food, a drink, a pocket knife, a miniature flashlight, a cell phone if you have one, but a blanket is hard to fit in a purse. it would better for everyone if you would just print suggestions on what to bring instead of sending nasty letters. we are all going to end up with gigantic walls built between each country or state to attempt to stop this crappy terrorism, and then 100 years later we will all celebrate it being torn down just like the china wall. there is no cure for terrorism and pointless to argue with people unless you were at al quada's gate. save the hate for them. --- Clay Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dora wrote, > > > > I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large > > > enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! > > To which Tamara responded, > > And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on > > laughing out loud for many years to come. > > But what Tamara did NOT include in her response was a very important > sentence in Dora's note... > > >Honestly, I read this expecting to see people carrying a personal > emergency > kit in case of terrorism! < (which was followed by the description of > her > knapsack) > > So I believe that we can safely assume that Dora was laughing at her > own > mistaken understanding of the personal emergency kit, and NOT at the > horrible experiences everyone even remotely connected to the latest > acts of > terrorism have endured. It is good to laugh at your own mistakes. I > don't > know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest > that > she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense > stress, many > people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora > was > laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! > > Clay Blackwell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: London Bombings & Personal Emergency List
Dora wrote, > > I'm thinking, my knapsack is jsut about large > > enough for bicycle tools and rain gear LOL! To which Tamara responded, > And I hope you never have bombs rain on you, so you can keep on > laughing out loud for many years to come. But what Tamara did NOT include in her response was a very important sentence in Dora's note... >Honestly, I read this expecting to see people carrying a personal emergency kit in case of terrorism! < (which was followed by the description of her knapsack) So I believe that we can safely assume that Dora was laughing at her own mistaken understanding of the personal emergency kit, and NOT at the horrible experiences everyone even remotely connected to the latest acts of terrorism have endured. It is good to laugh at your own mistakes. I don't know Dora, but I expect she has been stung by the words which suggest that she is a simpleton who laughs at tragedy. In times of immense stress, many people need to laugh to maintain their emotional equilibrium. Dora was laughing at HERSELF folks. Let's not be so hard on her!! Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: London
I think Dora may not have realised that my sister works in the govt. buildings in central London and uses the Underground daily. That's the reason for my worry. If my sister were a SAHM in one of the suburbs, I wouldn't have been nearly as concerned, but she does go through Kings Cross frequently and she travels during the rush hour. Also, as a resident of one of the most frequently bombed countries in the world, I know how easy it is to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, as Tamara said. My sister could have been going to a doctor's appointment, running errands, or any number of things. Tacey had a bunion operation a while ago and just got off the crutches 2 weeks ago. Because her foot is still sore, I'm glad that she didn't have to walk the 6 miles or so back to Lewisham. One of my coworkers came into my office yesterday to tell me that his aunt had been right behind the double-decker bus. She's okay, fortunately. Avital > -Original Message- > From: Tamara P Duvall > > > On Jul 7, 2005, at 19:20, Dora Smith wrote: > > > I wouldn't be TOO worried! London is a huge city! One of the > > largest in > > the planet! Extends for maybe 30 miles across. > > Yeah, well... New York is huge too, as is DC. But that wasn't a mad > sniper shooting people off one by one at random; this was a > concentrated attack, on underground trains (and a bus), during rush > hours, when people are going to work all over the place, so, until you > know that "yours" are safe, you fret. Then you start grieving for all > those who aren't "yours", but are human all the same. I well remember > being in terror on 9/11 until we heard from my stepson - he doesn't > work on the site, but often had business there. All it takes is being > in a wrong place at a wrong moment... > > Avital, and all others who've heard from "theirs"; I'm glad for you. > And I hope that all "ours" (those who live in/around London, who were > visiting for the day of shopping, etc) will report their safety also> - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: London Bombings
I wouldn't be TOO worried! London is a huge city! One of the largest in the planet! Extends for maybe 30 miles across. Might be a big place but if you're in the wrong place at the right timeJust rec'd a pray request from a friend of mine whose friend has been critically injured. She's expected to survive but it will be a long road to recovery. (mentally as well as physically, I'm sure) Our prayers go to all who have been affected. Dona in Asan, Guam, feeling a bit somber today as memories of waiting hours to hear from my husband after the Pentagon attack come flooding back. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]