Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-22 Thread Joy Beeson

On 3/14/09 2:51 PM, Lorri Ferguson wrote:


. . . .  You can often
find good quality handkerchief material in 'men's' handkerchiefs.  They are
usually larger than women's so after finishing your 'lace edging' in a square,
cut down the center of the 'man's handkerchief' to the size needed.  No need
to purchase the full width of a piece of yardage.


Look for shirting as well as for lawn.  Truly-fine shirting is almost as 
hard to find as real handkerchief linen, but there are still men around who pay thousands of 
dollars for suits and want shirts worthy of them.

I bought some plaid linen-blend shirting because it was on clearance, and 
found that it was meant for fine shirts -- twelve-inch squares of it make splendid 
spectacle-cleaning rags, and fit my back pocket better than sixteen-inch men's hankies.

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RE: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-22 Thread Daphne Martin
Has anyone thought of Copeland Linens in Ireland???

They do hankerchief linen as well as linens for embroidery.

 Daphne Martin norfolk England



 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:54:29 -0500
 From: joybee...@comcast.net
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 Subject: Re: [lace] lace on hankies

 On 3/14/09 2:51 PM, Lorri Ferguson wrote:

  . . . . You can often
  find good quality handkerchief material in 'men's' handkerchiefs. They
are
  usually larger than women's so after finishing your 'lace edging' in a
square,
  cut down the center of the 'man's handkerchief' to the size needed. No
need
  to purchase the full width of a piece of yardage.

 Look for shirting as well as for lawn. Truly-fine shirting is almost as
hard to find as real handkerchief linen, but there are still men around who
pay thousands of dollars for suits and want shirts worthy of them.

 I bought some plaid linen-blend shirting because it was on clearance, and
found that it was meant for fine shirts -- twelve-inch squares of it make
splendid spectacle-cleaning rags, and fit my back pocket better than
sixteen-inch men's hankies.

 --
 Joy Beeson
 http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/
 http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
 http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
 http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather)
 west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
 where sheltered daffodils are in bud.

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Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-22 Thread Sue
I found some lovely quality mens handerchiefs on ebay and have them here now 
for when the lace is ready.  First one on the pillow now.   Taking it on my 
travel but will wash and press the hanky before I attach one to the other.

Sut T, Dorset UK


. . . .  You can often
find good quality handkerchief material in 'men's' handkerchiefs.  They 
are
usually larger than women's so after finishing your 'lace edging' in a 
square,
cut down the center of the 'man's handkerchief' to the size needed.  No 
need

to purchase the full width of a piece of yardage.


Look for shirting as well as for lawn.  Truly-fine shirting is almost as 
hard to find as real handkerchief linen, but there are still men around who 
pay thousands of dollars for suits and want shirts worthy of them.


I bought some plaid linen-blend shirting because it was on clearance, and 
found that it was meant for fine shirts -- twelve-inch squares of it make 
splendid spectacle-cleaning rags, and fit my back pocket better than 
sixteen-inch men's hankies.


--
Joy Beeson
http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather)
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where sheltered daffodils are in bud.

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Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-16 Thread Sue

Sue T Dorset, UK
Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings
http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk

Liz,
This one had me wondering about thread sizes and choice of hanky material. 
If you were working lace of any kind in say cordonet 100 or something 
similar on one and then chose to work bucks point which would be probably 
something like the broder machine 50, would they both still look reasonable 
on the same fabric, or one a bit heavy and one very delicate on too heavy 
cotton?


As you can see, even 2 hours short of sleep again, you have my brain working 
away, g

Sue T

Hello Spiders,

Janice wrote that she made the lace very slightly larger than the actual
hankie and eased the fabric along the sides and corners to make the lace
fit.

This reminded me of the first Bucks hankie edging that I made. I originally
had planned to make a sample, but I was enjoying it so much that I decided
to continue  it into a square.   I was so pleased with it that I wanted to
enter it into the County Craft show, so I began to  mount the lace on to an
oversize piece of fine cotton fabric.  That's when I discovered that three
sides had 12 heads and the fourth side had 13!! I had lots of 'fun'
stretching three sides and easing the fourth one on to the carefully pulled
thread square.

Funnily enough the judge didn't notice that there were too many repeats in
one edge.  She only saw my straight start which I did because it was only
going to be a sample.

Since that day I've never been worried what judges think of my work. I know
my faults and always say, I'll do it better next time.

Liz Pass
In Poole, UK
After a beautiful spring day

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RE: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-15 Thread Noelene Lafferty
I bought a whole batch of different size hankies by mail order from the UK
many years ago.   The edges were hemstitched ready to take lace, the quality
was beautiful fine Irish linen, but they were definitely NOT square.   I
ended up drawing up my own simple edge which worked up about 4cm deep, but
only had a 1.4cm repeat to the pattern when worked in Finca 40,so that I
could put an extra repeat in two sides.

I called it the Cooma Kiss (for Keep It Simple Stupid).  It just consisted
of a little crown on the head side, a row of diamonds in cloth or half
stitch, two rows of spiders (with or without gimps), another of diamonds and
a little bit of ground.   If anyone wants a PDF file, just email me direct
and state the type of thread you would be using.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

 Another thing to bear in mind is that often the premade hankies with the
 entredot sp edging are not always square.  
 Janice

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RE: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-15 Thread Elizabeth Pass
Hello Spiders,

Janice wrote that she made the lace very slightly larger than the actual
hankie and eased the fabric along the sides and corners to make the lace
fit. 

This reminded me of the first Bucks hankie edging that I made. I originally
had planned to make a sample, but I was enjoying it so much that I decided
to continue  it into a square.   I was so pleased with it that I wanted to
enter it into the County Craft show, so I began to  mount the lace on to an
oversize piece of fine cotton fabric.  That's when I discovered that three
sides had 12 heads and the fourth side had 13!! I had lots of 'fun'
stretching three sides and easing the fourth one on to the carefully pulled
thread square. 

Funnily enough the judge didn't notice that there were too many repeats in
one edge.  She only saw my straight start which I did because it was only
going to be a sample.

Since that day I've never been worried what judges think of my work. I know
my faults and always say, I'll do it better next time.

Liz Pass
In Poole, UK
After a beautiful spring day

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Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-14 Thread Sue
I must say I prefer the lace with corners to considering cutting lace, g, 
and for my current purposes I will be doing this method, but I have made 
some lace yardage to edge things, in the way you describe and it worked 
well.
I have phoned and found my local fabric shops sells some cotton  lawn,  I 
expect I will be trying to make my own hanky.  Unless I come across 
something else that will work for my purpose.
Thank you all for the great help and insight.  I know you have been here 
before and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me and others.


Sue T
Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings
http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk

We touched on the subject of lace on hankies, and had reference to edging 
a hanky with store bought lace.  Since we had new people on the List who 
have not seen the previous discussions in the past, I wanted to review a 
couple things about lace on hankies from previous discussions.


Lace can be made for hankies in two different ways.  One is the four 
cornered square of lace that will like mostly flat when sewn to fabric. 
This is very common now when we know we want a hanky and have more time to 
make it exactly as we want it.


The other method is to make a long straight edging, then gather the lace 
around the corners of the hanky.  (Our archives will have our extension 
discussions and directions for doing this.)  This hanky may not lie 
completely flat when done, but does not take specially designed corners. 
This was the way lace was put on hankies way in the past when the lace was 
made one place, and sewn to the fabric by a different person.  The 
lacemaker did not know the destination of her lace when she was making it, 
so much yardage was made, then adapted to the desired use by the 
purchaser.


Yes, the lace yardage could have been cut to make mitered corners but fine 
handmade lace was seldom cut any more than absolutely necessary.  Lace was 
re-used, and I would guess that one long piece was much more usable than 
four short pieces.


Alice in Oregon  -- had a lovely day but two rain fronts are due tomorrow.


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Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-14 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Just a reminder as I believe it has been mentioned here before.  You can often
find good quality handkerchief material in 'men's' handkerchiefs.  They are
usually larger than women's so after finishing your 'lace edging' in a square,
cut down the center of the 'man's handkerchief' to the size needed.  No need
to purchase the full width of a piece of yardage.

Lorri

  I have phoned and found my local fabric shops sells some cotton  lawn,  I
  expect I will be trying to make my own hanky.  Unless I come across
  something else that will work for my purpose.
  Thank you all for the great help and insight.  I know you have been here
  before and thank you for sharing your thoughts with me and others.

  Sue T
  

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Re: [lace] lace on hankies

2009-03-14 Thread Norma Harris
If you want some nice hankies all ready to attach lace try hhtatting.com
(Handy Hands Tatting) and check out their catalog.

Norma (Salem, VA)

http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
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