Re: [lace] judging lace
Hello Everybody, Having been twice a judge I can't see any problem touching the lace pieces. First you look mostly with your eyes, second you will wash your hands before don't having rings standing out on them and when you must take the lace into your hand you do it very carefully. One could let the lace flip from one paper to another without using fingers and other tricks. There will be only pencils on the table for notices. In my opinion people judging lace knew how to handle them. Ilske, just back from a seminar - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] judging lace
In a message dated 24/08/2004 00:10:01 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: quality. So in a couple of catagories there was only one entry which got 3rd place because it was not 1st place quality. Well, as a quibbler of semantics, this bothers me. Awards for excellence may be based against an absolute. Then, the best entry might only qualify for Good (or even Poor) and nobody gets an Excellent rating. There can also be more than one Excellent, too, with that rating system. Liz will not write emails at 2 in the morning, Liz will not write emails at 2 in the morning!!! Should have said that with the Model Soldiers one there was an explanation for this because the show was a regional final which then allowed qualification to the Nationals - this meant that to qualify for the Nationals you had to be at a certain standard and if that wasn't met at the regionals, however hard you had tried, then they couldn't give a 1st for effort - HOWEVER, what they did do was give awards for novices classes which didn't go through to the finals - so people who were just starting out could compete on an even playing field with those who were of a similar standard and learning and got nice certificates for effort, paint effects, interpretation etc - and it was divided by age as well. However, if you wanted to compete in the main competition then you were putting yourself up against people of ability and would be marked on those levels. No more 2am emails Regards Liz in London I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Judging lace
Hi Elizabeth! My advice is the same as the advice I give new lacemakers who wonder what the author's color scheme and terms mean... go to the front of each book and see what that author says! It's the same for competitions... each usually prints a guide for exhibitors, and usually they also print the criteria by which the entries will be judged. I won't even bother to include the criteria in the Virginia State Fair guidebook, because they apply only to this fair, and may not be the same as other competitions. Clay It appears that quite a few Arachnes have judged at various fairs and competitions. What do you look for when judging? I'm sure that lots of us would like to know. We may be able to improve our lace and also have more confidence about entering. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Judging lace
On 23 Aug 2004, at 18:51, Elizabeth Pass wrote: It appears that quite a few Arachnes have judged at various fairs and competitions. What do you look for when judging? I'm sure that lots of us would like to know. We may be able to improve our lace and also have more confidence about entering. Depends to some extent what the organisers ask you to look for. I've only judged a couple of informal lace day competitions and it was a mixture of first impact, presentation, neatness/tension and technical merit. The one I remember most was from someone whom I guessed was fairly inexperienced but her enthusiasm and enjoyment shone through a lovely display of several small and fairly simple pieces assembled together within a picture frame. Perhaps in a more formal situation technical ability would have more weight, and perhaps also strict adherance to the class schedule. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] judging lace
In a message dated 23/08/2004 21:51:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In comparing entries: Who's to say that a piece that was 2nd one year, if judged the next wouldn't have been first; that the advice given (if in public) to the 2nd or 3 prize winners compared to 1st prize would result in any different placing another time (or not). Interesting here - in the two competitions that I have entered in my life like this, one was for craft, the other was for Model Soldiers (long explaination!!) - both worked on the same principle - a first place would only be awarded if the piece was of a high enough quality. So in a couple of catagories there was only one entry which got 3rd place because it was not 1st place quality. I've also seen where two people got second and no first was awarded. Just a thought!! Regards Liz in London I'm back blogging my latest lace piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] judging lace
a first place would only be awarded if the piece was of a high enough quality. So in a couple of catagories there was only one entry which got 3rd place because it was not 1st place quality. Well, as a quibbler of semantics, this bothers me. Awards for excellence may be based against an absolute. Then, the best entry might only qualify for Good (or even Poor) and nobody gets an Excellent rating. There can also be more than one Excellent, too, with that rating system. However, in my mind, first, second, and third are *by definition* compared to whatever's entered. First means the best, the foremost example of what was entered. If even the best entered is only mediocre, it's still the foremost example. Similarly, the third best is only that low because there were exactly two pieces that were better than it. If there were 10 entries and all were poor, I'd be disappointed but I'd still award a best, second-best, and third-best. If the competition is going to have an external, absolute standard against which the entries are compared, then I feel they must change the rating system to outstanding-excellent-good-adequate-poor and award however many ribbons are appropriate. To say there are first-second-third ribbons but they won't be awarded unless the entries are also excellent is trying to have one's cake and eat it too. just my not-so-humble opinion, Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
