Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Dear Jeri Please don't stop posting on Arachne as I'm sure that like myself, almost everyone on Arachne reads the valuable information that you take the time and trouble to post for the benefit of the lace community at large. What would we do without you! There's always bound to be the odd objection but just remember that One can't please all of the people all of the time (but one can please most of the people most of the time)! Catherine Barley Henley-on-Thames UK Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - Subject: Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern Dear Jeri, While I rarely comment I am compelled to remark on your statement I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on Arachne. I want you to know I read your your writings and appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us. I don't believe I am the only one. The person who told you this should have confined her comments to an I statement. She doesn't speak for me. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Dear Lyn, Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace? If so, our newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56. Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in Sweden? Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide. The thread sizes are different: 10 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind 11 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/3. (The 35/2 passive gimp in the footing may be replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace makers to remember, since shopping for threads can be difficult.) When it comes to English speakers knowing about Danish Tonder (pronounced Turner) lace, we stand on the shoulders of the late Inge Skovgaard, who did so much for OIDFA in the early years, and arranged for the English-language version of this book. It is a classic, and sells for an inflated price. However, if you are a member of a large lace guild with a library, you can borrow it (IOLI, The Lace Guild, for example). The name is appealing. So is the lace. Historic pieces are usually added to attire of Danish royal babies and brides. Ironically, I was researching Danish laces last night, and re-reading Pomp and Poetry - Lace Through 400 Years, published by the Danske Kunstindustrimuseum in 1991, to serve as catalog for a lace exhibition, ISBN 87-87075-741. It is partially in English; enough to enjoy. Her Majesty Queen Ingrid (1910-2000) served as Protector for the exhibition. On page 79, there is a 1941 photograph of Queen Alexandrine (1879-1952) at her lace pillow at Amalienborg Palace. On the following page is a dainty collar made from 5 curved rows of the little heart pattern. This reminded me of my visit to this Copenhagen museum before traveling on to the 2000 OIDFA Congress in Lund Sweden. There is a lace room way at the back of the museum, and in a drawer I found lace made by the Queen. Perhaps it was the Little Heart of Denmark pattern. Our Danish members will know. It was at this museum, in the lace room, that I first met the late Elaine Merritt, an Arachne member who served OIDFA as a Vice President from the U.S.!! Recommendation: If you meet someone in a lace gallery in a mostly empty museum who is intensely interested in the laces, speak to them -- you may find you know them via Arachne! Lyn, maybe a U.S. thread supplier has a suitable thread? I've been working with lace in a concentrated way since about 1980, and remember there was a supplier who was sending lace threads to a Scandinavian Palace! There! Lots of things to G**gle and search for in Arachne archives. I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on Arachne. So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions might suggest a subject for dinner conversation or a local lace group meeting. Maybe I am just writing for future researchers who will delve into Arachne archives? Or, maybe our archives will die and evaporate (as our early correspondence did), and all will have been for naught. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center -- In a message dated 8/13/2014, lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes: I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from the Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start. It appears that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of 25. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure there are enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue. Jacquie in Lincolnshire. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Aug 2014, at 16:44, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Dear Lyn, Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace? If so, our newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56. Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in Sweden? Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide. The thread sizes are different: 10 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind 11 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/3. (The 35/2 passive gimp in the footing may be replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace makers to remember, since shopping for threads can be difficult.) When it comes to English speakers knowing about Danish Tonder (pronounced Turner) lace, we stand on the shoulders of the late Inge Skovgaard, who did so much for OIDFA in the early years, and arranged for the English-language version of this book. It is a classic, and sells for an inflated price. However, if you are a member of a large lace guild with a library, you can borrow it (IOLI, The Lace Guild, for example). The name is appealing. So is the lace. Historic pieces are usually added to attire of Danish royal babies and brides. Ironically, I was researching Danish laces last night, and re-reading Pomp and Poetry - Lace Through 400 Years, published by the Danske Kunstindustrimuseum in 1991, to serve as catalog for a lace exhibition, ISBN 87-87075-741. It is partially in English; enough to enjoy. Her Majesty Queen Ingrid (1910-2000) served as Protector for the exhibition. On page 79, there is a 1941 photograph of Queen Alexandrine (1879-1952) at her lace pillow at Amalienborg Palace. On the following page is a dainty collar made from 5 curved rows of the little heart pattern. This reminded me of my visit to this Copenhagen museum before traveling on to the 2000 OIDFA Congress in Lund Sweden. There is a lace room way at the back of the museum, and in a drawer I found lace made by the Queen. Perhaps it was the Little Heart of Denmark pattern. Our Danish members will know. It was at this museum, in the lace room, that I first met the late Elaine Merritt, an Arachne member who served OIDFA as a Vice President from the U.S.!! Recommendation: If you meet someone in a lace gallery in a mostly empty museum who is intensely interested in the laces, speak to them -- you may find you know them via Arachne! Lyn, maybe a U.S. thread supplier has a suitable thread? I've been working with lace in a concentrated way since about 1980, and remember there was a supplier who was sending lace threads to a Scandinavian Palace! There! Lots of things to G**gle and search for in Arachne archives. I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on Arachne. So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions might suggest a subject for dinner conversation or a local lace group meeting. Maybe I am just writing for future researchers who will delve into Arachne archives? Or, maybe our archives will die and evaporate (as our early correspondence did), and all will have been for naught. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center -- In a message dated 8/13/2014, lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes: I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from the Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start. It appears that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of 25. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Dear Jeri, While I have looked at Inge Skovgaard's book in the past, I do not have it, so I cannot tell if it is the same pattern. In any event, the pattern I have definitely is not Tonder, as the ground is Dieppe ground, and not point ground. It measures, per the pricking notes, 1.5 cm, which would be about the same. Not only has Brenda Paternoster told me that the equivalent thread is Egyptian 70, the Svenska Spetsar answered my email to them and said the same. I will thus be putting aside that excellent advice and trying Aurifil 50, which is actually an equivalent of Egyptian 60, because Aurifil 50 feels so much more like linen that it is worth winding 11 pair to see if it works. But I have Egyptian 70, so I am good to go in any event. Sadly Aurifil does not come any finer than 50. I had googled the 160 thread, and it does not appear anywhere, which is consistent with what I know of linen thread. We use Egyptian cotton. As for your other concern, losing emails, and others not reading out emails, I look at it this way. Not everyone will want to read what I write, and that is fine with me. I cannot please everyone, and I do not try to, although I do try to please as many as I can without strain. However, if what I write interests even one person, my effort will not have been in vain, even if the email then disappears immediately. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the weather continues gorgeous. We did have rain, but at night, and no flooding as they did on Long Island, east of New York City. We are not accustomed to so much beautiful weather. Usually at this time of year the air conditioning is on, and any walking or outdoor activity is done in the early morning before it heats up. Not this year. Jeri wrote: Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace? If so, our newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56. Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in Sweden? Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide. The thread sizes are different: 10 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind 11 pairs with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/3. (The 35/2 passive gimp in the footing may be replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace makers to remember, since shopping for threads can be difficult.) Lyn wrote, I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from the Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start. It appears that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of 25. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Dear Jeri, While I rarely comment I am compelled to remark on your statement I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on Arachne. I want you to know I read your your writings and appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us. I don't believe I am the only one. The person who told you this should have confined her comments to an I statement. She doesn't speak for me. Best Regards, Carol Melton Valley of the Sun - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
Carol wrote to Jeri: I want you to know I read your your writings and appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us. Dear Jeri, Carol is right! I also read your writings and have learned a lot from it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Anneke Reijs, in Baexem, The Netherlands ann...@reijs.nl www.reijs.eu - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern
According to Google Engelskt lingarn nr 180/2 eller 160/2 11 par pinnar LC nr 25 1 pinne” translates as English linen No. 180/2 or 160/2 11 pairs sticks LC No. 25, 1 stick”, LC no 25 is almost certainly Knox’s LC linen, which measured 19 wrap/cm. Fresia 60/3 or Bockens 35/3 are the nearest modern equivalents. That’s the easy bit. “English Linen” might have meant Knox’s, which was actually Scottish, or maybe Finlayson or J Harris. The finest Finlayson I’ve seen is 120/2 = 38 w/cm J Harris 140/2 = 44 w/cm and 200/2 = 56 w/cm. I haven’t seen anything in between. Knox’s Falcon 160/2 = 42 w/cm and 200/2 = 48 w/cm So, you are looking at a very fine linen in the region of 44-48 w/cm. The only modern linen thread of that fineness is/was Bouc 140/2 = 46 w/cm or CF 140/2 = 43 w/cm, but I don’t think that either are currently in production. Brenda On 13 Aug 2014, at 16:14, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: It appears that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of 25. The exact Swedish, is: Engelskt lingarn nr 180/2 eller 160/2 11 par pinnar LC nr 25 1 pinne. There are three problems here. First, I do not speak Swedish, so I'm not absolutely sure I'm correct. Second, I have yet to find a source for 180/2 or 160/2 linen thread. I doubt it's made anymore. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
