[lace] Re: Lace: Ipswich, Massachusetts

[Karen Thompson]

Liz, yes, the lace on the pillow in the first picture is the one I made. It
is a reproduction from the pattern at the Smithsonian and the corresponding
lace (number 9) in the Library on Congress. It has been on display since
2001.
Karen,
I enjoyed reading the article.  Is the reproduction lace that you made the
one that is shown on the reproduction pillow in the article?
Liz R, Raleigh NC


Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 06:39:10 -0400
From: Karen Thompson 
Subject: [lace] lace. Ipswich, Massachusetts, lace

The Smithsonian Museum in Washington, DC, where I volunteer with the lace
collection just published my blog on the Ipswich lace Industry.
You can find it here, or search american history si blog ipswich lace
http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/ipswich-lace

Hope you enjoy the blog, and please let me know if you can add anything to
the Ipswich story or have questions. There is still much to learn, such as
where the original teacher came from and when.  It is very interesting that
the lace was made on a round bolster pillow, approximately 30 inches (76
cm) circumference and the sewing edge was on the left.  I am guessing, but
have no concrete evidence, that the Ipswich lace makers got most of their
patterns by copying snippets of imported lace. It is also interesting that
only one of the samples they sent to Alexander Hamilton in 1790 has point
ground (c-t-t-t or probably t-t-t-c as they used bolster pillows). The
point ground is used as a filling only in this one sample, not as a ground.
The grounds are kat stitch (Paris ground) or variations on torchon ground.
You are welcome to share the blog with your local guilds.

Karen in either Washington, DC or Bethany Beach, DE

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Sue Babbs]

And I bought it when I first heard it was in print.  Definitely worth 
getting.  I put it on the demo table at the Chicago Botanic Garden so that I 
could talk about historical lace in the USA



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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

I'm not waiting for Christmas, nor do I trust my elves to bring me all the
lace books I want. I have this book, among others, on order (and I hope in
the mail), and a bunch of CDs on my wish list!!

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Adele Shaak  wrote:

>
> But honestly, doesn’t all this talk make you want to put Karen’s book
on
> your Christmas list?
>

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Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace - silk vs. linen

[Jeri Ames]

It is explained in one of the Ipswich lace books that Elizabeth Lord Lakeman
was 95 when she died, and that she was probably making white linen lace
because that was what she could see.  It would have been useful to sew it to
the edges of linen clothes and household linens, to extend their lives.  When
shabby, a new length of lace would replace the original.  Textiles were
recycled and cut down for smaller people until there was very little left,
because of the intensive manual labor involved in making woven textiles.  It
should be noted that in the kit of Lakeman's lace supplies donated to The
Smithsonian was a wide pricking for making black silk lace.  This is evidence
she could make either, when she was young.
 
Sometimes many of us need to answer questions from the public that require a
basic knowledge of history in order to put lace history in context.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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In a message dated 12/9/2017 12:22:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Karen was very generous to let me use photos of her Ipswich, MA lace samples
in our library exhibit earlier this year. They were positioned near samples
made by Chris Guarnieri from Karen’s book & they made a nice display. My
question? Why is the Smithsonian Ipswich lace white? From previous discussions
that I recall, Ipswich is black—help! Susan Hottle USA

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Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace

[Susan]

Thank you Gon & Adele!  Not an Ipswich-er myself so I hadn’t delved into the 
finer points.  Always something new to learn on Arachne & it’s lucky that we 
have so many experts!  It could be interesting to work the same pattern in each 
thread to see if one is more effective or appealing than the other.  It could 
be like Liberty fabric or Hermes scarves.  Sometimes the design is fab but the 
color choice detracts from the overall effect.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
MA
> a point ground lace?

If I were making lace 70-odd years after I started, I hope I’d be making a
different pattern. ;-)

But honestly, doesn’t all this talk make you want to put Karen’s book on
your Christmas list?

Adele

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

I do hope that if I were making lace 70 years from now, I would not be making
the same pattern ;-)

Adele

> On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:19 AM, DevonThein  wrote:
>
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
MA
> a point ground lace?

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Re: [lace] Ipswich, MA lace

[Adele Shaak]

Hi Susan:

It’s explained in the book. They did make white lace in Ipswich (MA) - perhaps 
even a large amount of white lace - and the original samples sent to Alexander 
Hamilton comprised 22 samples in black silk and 14 samples in white linen. 
Unfortunately, the whereabouts of the page of white samples is not known. Only 
the page of black samples was found in the Library of Congress. The books that 
have been written about Ipswich lace are based on that page of samples, so 
they’re all black. (If anybody out there has a page of 14 samples of white 
linen lace pinned onto 18th-century paper, do let the Smithsonian know. But 
tell us first ;-)

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


> On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:46 AM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Karen was very generous to let me use photos of her Ipswich, MA lace samples 
> in our library exhibit earlier this year.  They were positioned near samples 
> made by Chris Guarnieri from Karen’s book & they made a nice display.  My 
> question?  Why is the Smithsonian Ipswich lace white?  From previous 
> discussions that I recall, Ipswich is black—help!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle 
> USA 

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Adele Shaak]

I have Karen’s book, and the interesting thing is the Ipswich (MA) laces are 
*not* point ground laces. They look like it, I know, and I made that mistake 
myself when I first looked only at the pictures, but the samples use Torchon 
ground, Honeycomb ground, and Kat stitch ground. 

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Gon Homburg]

Hi Maureen and Nancy,

I thought that one of the characteristics of the Ipswich MA lace is the often 
different angle of the grid in the ground and in the motifs. The angle in the 
ground is 66° or 52° and in the motifs often 45°. Karen Thompson says the same 
thing in her book The Lace Samples from Ipswich Massachusetts. We also 
discovered that reconstructing some samples for the book of Maria Cotterell.

Happy lacing

Gon Homburg from a rainy and cold Amsterdam, The Netherlands



> Op 9 dec. 2017, om 12:06 heeft Maureen  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Nancy
> 
> Thank you.  I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very
> similar to Bucks Point.  I think I need to see a book to compare.  
> 
> 
> HI Maureen
> 
> Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
> know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
> black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.
> 
> Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
> your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
> experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?
> 
> Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.
> 
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
> 
> Maureen 
> E Yorks UK
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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Devon Thein]

I suppose you might say that the difference between lace made in Ipswich, MA 
and that made in Ipswich, England is that the Ipswich, MA handmade lace 
industry was the only handmade lace industry in the US, and thus quite an 
anomaly, whereas the Ipswich, England handmade lace industry was one of many, 
all very similar.

Devon

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RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Maureen]

Hi Nancy

Thank you.  I have just googled Ipswich MA lace and it does look very
similar to Bucks Point.  I think I need to see a book to compare.  


HI Maureen

Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.

Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?

Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

Maureen 
E Yorks UK

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Maureen,

Beyond the trivial answer (the difference is where they were made), I don't
know for sure. The Ipswich MA lace is point ground, but narrow and made of
black silk, which is unusual in the UK point ground I think.

Karen Thompson (or her book) would be the authoritative source to answer
your question, but I don't know if she's on Arachne. Maybe one of our
experts can help us out here -- e.g. Devon?

Best I can do. I have her book on order but it's not here yet.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Maureen  wrote:

> What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts
> please?

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RE: [lace] Ipswich lace

[Maureen]

Dear Nancy

What is the difference between Ipswich lace UK and Ipswich Massachusetts
please?  I am sure I should know, or at least know where to look but my main
computer often deletes part of an email, no matter who the service provider
is.


Hi Daphne,

Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about
lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

Maureen
E Yorks UK

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

[Adele Shaak]

Thanks Karen for posting this URL - I had lost any previous messages that had
this link.

What fun I had looking at the photos! If you haven’t tried the link yet -
they are high definition photos. Click on the photo so that it fills the page,
and then you can zoom in so close you can see the fuzzies on the thread! You
can also zoom out so it’s just a little tiny thing but I don’t understand
the value of that feature.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


> On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Karen Thompson 
wrote:
>
> I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri
> wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow.  Under
> the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is
> in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA. You can find
> it by searching: Smithsonian lace collection, and scrolling to the next to
> the last object or
> http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_644978

> By clicking on the title of the Ipswich lace pillow entry, several pictures
> are available. The text on the label says: "She lived to be over 90, worked
> on this pillow the day she died. She feared she lacked "dying grace" but
> God took her while she knelt in prayer". Hope this clarifies.

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Re: [lace] Ipswich pillow

[N.A. Neff]

Here's a tiny URL. May work better: https://tinyurl.com/ydhazdp7

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Lorelei Halley 
wrote:

> Here is a direct link to the article and photos. It is a long url, and you
> will have to paste it together.
>

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Re: [lace] Ipswich pillow

[Sue Babbs]

Here's an easier link to this Ipswich style pillow in Jeri's collection  which
I hope will work fine

Sue

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Daphne,

Are you thinking Ipswich UK? We haven't been clear, but we're talking about
lace made in Ipswich Massachusetts.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Daphne Martin  wrote:

> Hello
> Nicky Townsend has written a book on this lace. She has done a brilliant
> job by showing pictures,diagrams etc. Nicky researched this lace,as can be
> seen in her book Suffolk Lace.
>
> Daphne  Norwich Uk.
>
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RE: [lace] Ipswich pillow

[Maureen]

Thank you Lorelei for the link and thank you Jeri for sharing this with us
all.

Maureen
E Yorks UK

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RE: [lace] Ipswich

[Madge McLennan]

I am from Ipswich Qld and I am very interested in Ipswich lace
I don't post very often but enjoy reading all the posts

Happy Lacing,

Madge
http://sewhappylace.blogspot.com.au/

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re [lace] Ipswich

[Karen Thompson]

Lyn wrote:
 Is Ipswich more like Bucks, or a Continental point ground?  Might that
make a difference?  lrb

The American Ipswich laces from around 1790 are not point ground laces. The
main grounds are point de Paris (or Kat-stitch), or some variation on the
Torchon ground. Point ground was used as a filling in one of the black silk
samples from 1790 preserved in the Library of Congress.
Point ground was fairly new in the late 1700's, and might not have reached
across the Atlantic to Massachusetts. Some of the patterns used in the
Ipswich laces might have come from copying snippets of imported lace, but
as far as I know there is no hard evidence.

-Karen
in Washington, DC, USA

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Diane Williams]

The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that
I can find.  It's on my bucket list to visit there some day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house
 
Diane Williams 
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Galena Illinois USA 
My blog -
http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/



 From:
John Mead johnbobm...@gmail.com

Shell-

I just searched the archive under
Ipswich, and on the second page there's a
link to materials held at the
Library of Congress.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there
were other posts
that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich,
etc., so I'd say
an archive trawl might be useful.

Yours,

John Mead
Tacoma,
WA, USA, where the dandelions are [unfortunately] in bloom.

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jill Hawkins]

Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing the
lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed much of
the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group
site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/   You will need to join the
group to view the photographs.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[lynrbailey]

I visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed.  I went 
without any prior arrangements.  There is one bolster pillow, maybe two, some 
bobbins, a few examples of the lace, some prickings, but very little else.  All 
in one small case.  I believe some people from the local lace groups go in and 
study it, probably with prior arrangements, and hopefully they see more.  If 
you're in the neighborhood it is worth the trip, I was on my way from 
Pennsylvania to Maine, Ipswich is north of Boston, Massachusetts, just a bit.  
However it is not really worth a special trip.  The Laces of Ipswich book 
provides much more information and examples.  I wonder what the Library of 
Congress can provide.  I was on the IOLI Convention, Bethesda trip to see the 
laces there, and there was a lot, but I don't know what an individual could see 
with prior arrangement.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA

Diane wrote:
The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they don't have any photos on their website that
I can find.  It's on my bucket list to visit there some day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-house


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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Diane Williams]

Thanks for the reminder Jill.  I'm a member of this Yahoo group and I remember
that they posted MANY photos of the lace collections.  The laces though are
not all Ipswich-made.  I wonder if Shell, the original poster, is interested
in the Ipswich-made laces from the late 18th-century or all the laces in the
collection in Ipswich?
 
Diane Williams 
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena
Illinois USA 
My blog - http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

 From: Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk
Some of the members of the New England Lace Group have worked on cataloguing
the
lace collection at the Ipswich Historical Society and have photographed
much of
the lace and posted the photos on their Yahoo group
site:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ipswich_Lace/   You will need to join the
group to view the photographs.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jill Hawkins]

You do need to make special arrangements to see what is in the archived
collection - which is substantial, by the way, although it is not all Ipswich
lace.  The New England Lace Group made a field trip a couple of years' ago and
were rewarded with a splendid display.  If you know you're going to be in the
area, I think it would be worthwhile contacting them.

Jill
Newport Pagnell, Bucks

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Jeriames]

Oh!  The stories to tell!  
 
Two Maine lace makers went down to the Whipple House (Colonial Period  
historic property owned by the Ipswich Historical Society) to view lace  years 
ago.  The curator was contacted in advance, so we were  expected.
 
We were shown to an upper room, where short cuts of black Ipswich  Laces 
reconstructed years before by Michael Auclair, were  arranged on a dusty, 
sunny window sill.  They were in  dirty cellophane wraps, and there were 
silverfish present.   Horrors!  We'll never forget it.
 
Across the street was a Victorian era house, also owned by the Historical  
Society.  We went to take a look.  There was an elderly male  docent.  We 
were able to see some framed embroideries in the period rooms,  then asked if 
we could go upstairs.  The docent did not go with  us.  In the large hallway 
at the top of the stairs there was an arrangement  of antique toys.  There 
were antique embroidered samplers hung on the  walls.  Sun was pouring in 
the windows.  No thought to fading samplers  or to people handling the toys.
 
Historical property officers and volunteers change with the years.   This 
was a bad period, offering much to learn about levels of  responsibility.  
Yes, the New England Lace Group sometimes volunteers here,  but they would 
have no real say in what happens to the lace collection.
 
Since our visit, the lace collection from the late Michael  Auclair has 
been donated.  He was a personal friend of mine in New York in  the 1970-80's, 
a fellow member of the now-defunct Lace Guild of New York,  where we could 
meet the lace experts from New York's museums and visiting  lace scholars 
from around the world, and attend wonderful  lace conservation lectures.
 
A couple years ago, I went to the Library of Congress to see their  
examples of Ipswich Lace with a group that attended the International Old  
Lacers 
convention.  We were able to see the real things - lace examples  that were 
sent shortly after the Revolutionary War to illustrate a  lace industry in 
Ipswich and correspondence.  No other industry made  something that could be 
sent by mail to the new government.  The Library  showed us books, but they 
were rather dull.  The original  lace samples were worth seeing, but I 
think it is quite rare to bring them  out for viewing.  Three staff members 
were 
in the room to protect these  treasurers. 
 
The Laces of Ipswich by Marta Cotterell Raffel, 156 pages, University  
Press of New England, $25, is worth owning, if you are American.  In  addition 
to history and photographs, there are 6 lace prickings/patterns in  the 
book.  At time of publication there was a Arachne discussion about  the 
footsides of the lace being inconsistent, so be prepared for  that. 
 
There was an article in the OIDFA Bulletin 3 - 2010 about this  lace. 
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
I  visited the Ipswich Museum a couple years ago, and was disappointed.  I  
went without any prior arrangements   I wonder what the Library  of 
Congress can provide.  I was on the IOLI Convention, Bethesda trip to  see the 
laces there ...but I don't know what an individual could see with  prior 
arrangement.   
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,  USA

Diane wrote:
The Whipple House Museum in Ipswich is  supposed to have a collection of
Ipswich lace.  Unfortunately they  don't have any photos on their website 
that
I can find.  It's on  my bucket list to visit there some  day.
http://ipswichmuseum.drupalgardens.com/exhibitions-collections/whipple-hous
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[Ilske Thomsen]

Shell,
together with some American ladies I helped the Ipswich Museum to identify the 
laces from Ipswich Museum. I am sure you could find them in internet.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace

[John Mead]

Shell-

I just searched the archive under Ipswich, and on the second page there's a
link to materials held at the Library of Congress.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html; there were other posts
that looked of interest, concerning a museum near Ipswich, etc., so I'd say
an archive trawl might be useful.

Yours,

John Mead
Tacoma, WA, USA, where the dandelions are [unfortunately] in bloom.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Shell she11yg...@verizon.net wrote:

 I have tried in vain to find a photo or much information about this lace.
  I only found the one article online by Jeri Ames about this. But so far no
 photos, images, or prickings. Am I missing it?

 --
 Smile!

 Shell

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[Vicki Bradford]

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.


Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[lynrbailey]

I emailed the museum this morning, asking what was on display, and was there 
any more Ipswich lace etc. on display anywhere else.  I will let all spiders 
know when I hear anything.  They list lace, pillows and other artifacts on 
their list of collections, but that doesn't mean it's on display, just that 
they have it.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's cool, and sunny, with no rain for 
quite a while.  Indian Summer come early.  


-Original Message-
From: Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com
Sent: Aug 27, 2010 4:52 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.

Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[colonialartist]

The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture on the 
history of Ipswich lace.  I found it very interesting and I always wanted to go 
to Ipswich after taking this class. Still want to.  Hope someday to get there.. 
 I heard that some black lace owned by Martha still survived.  Black lace 
usually disintegrates over time due to the black dyes were acidic or something 
like that. 

Faye 
Drumore, Pa. and having a quiet time at home..

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To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:52:38 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

Hi Devon,

There is (or at least was) a small amount of Ipswich lace on display in 
the Whipple House in Ipswich, Mass.  I visited there about ten years 
ago and found the house full of other interesting things as well, and 
it is well worth visiting.  Of course you are right that our group has 
demos at the Smithsonian here in Washington, DC of Ipswich lace.  There 
is supposed to be a piece on display at nearby Mt. Vernon as well, 
which was owned by Martha Washington, but I haven't gotten around to 
going to see it.

Vicki in Maryland where we are having an autumn preview...

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

[Vicki Bradford]

That lecture was given by Marta Cotterell Raffel, author of The Laces 
of Ipswich.

Vicki

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Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace- location of examples

The last time the IOLI convention was at Bathesda someone did a lecture 
on the history of Ipswich lace.  I found it very interesting and I 
always wanted to go to Ipswich after taking this class. Still want to.  
Hope someday to get there..  I heard that some black lace owned by 
Martha still survived.  Black lace usually disintegrates over time due 
to the black dyes were acidic or something like that.


Faye
Drumore, Pa. and having a quiet time at home..

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Re: [lace] Ipswich lace prickings

[Jeriames]

Dear Arachnids,
 
Elise lives near me.  I'm able to take care of her  questions.
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:14:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
drswilli...@yahoo.com writes:

She  doesn't have a book, but Karen Thompson has been reproducing the  
Ipswich
patterns from the lace samples in the Library of Congress.   I've purchased
about 6 or 8 different patterns from her.  Karen is  listed in the IOLI
directory, has written several articles for Piecework  magazine, and I think
she's on this list.
Diane Williams  
drswilli...@yahoo.com 
Galena Illinois
USA 
My blog -  http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/

From:  Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net
To: Lace Arachne  lace@arachne.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:43:18  PM
Subject: [lace] Re: Ipswich lace prickings

On May 12, 2009, at  18:20, Elise
Hays wrote:

 I have the book The Laces of Ipswich  by Marta Cotterell Raffel
 on order, but from what I can gather it is  more of a history and has no

patterns.

It does have some  patterns in it; 6, to be precise. As far as I
know, it's the only book that  has ever attempted the reproduction of the
Ipswich lace.

-- Tamara P  Duvall 
http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia,  USA(Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace] Ipswich bobbin winder on Ebay

[Sue Duckles]

The handle is on the right hand side  so it would be used by a right  
handed person.  The bobbin goes on the left.  Where is the spindle for  
the thread?

Sue
On 12 May 2009, at 03:53, Laurie Waters wrote:

 Take a look at this bobbin winder on Ebay  110385490635. I'll call  
 it English (how it ended in Ipsich, if indeed it ever did we'll  
 never know)
 It doesn't look right. The wear and finish don't seem right. And the  
 handle on the wheel seems to be on the wrong side, with no way of  
 getting it on the other side.
 Opinions? Maybe one should be suspicious of things bought at flea  
 markets.
 On the other hand, this seller's Spanish mundillo seems OK, and I  
 really like the pillow with ring stand, which I think is German.
 Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ipswich bobbin winder on Ebay

[Diana Smith]

I collect, and have studied, old lacemaking equipment used in the East 
Midlands and I've never seen a winder with this configuration, usually old 
bobbin winders are used sideways on with the wheel handle to the right and 
the cup to hold the bobbin on the left - I have three all like this in my 
collection. Also I've seen very early film footage of a worker winding 
bobbins with this system.


On the 'Ipswich' winder the cup looks a slightly different coloured wood - 
maybe a replacement gone wrong ;o) Mind you I can see the logic in using it 
the way its set up.


Diana in Northants 


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Re: [lace] Ipswich bobbin winder on Ebay

[Brenda Paternoster]

It looks fine to me, but the current bid is 243.30 USD !!
Someone has more money than sense!

Brenda

On 12 May 2009, at 03:53, Laurie Waters wrote:

Take a look at this bobbin winder on Ebay  110385490635. I'll call it 
English (how it ended in Ipsich, if indeed it ever did we'll never 
know)
It doesn't look right. The wear and finish don't seem right. And the 
handle on the wheel seems to be on the wrong side, with no way of 
getting it on the other side.




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] Ipswich bobbin winder on Ebay

[Clive Betty Rice]

That would work - place yourself at the short end with the handle on the
wheel on your right and the bobbin to be wound in the which-a-doodle on
your left.  I have a reproduction made way back when by D.J. Hornsby
which is a bit different because I sit with the long side facing me. 
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

May 11, 2009 10:54:21 PM, lswaters...@comcast.net wrote:

  Take a look at this bobbin winder on Ebay 110385490635. I'll call it
  English (how it ended in Ipsich, if indeed it ever did we'll never
  know)
  It doesn't look right. The wear and finish don't seem right. And the
  handle
  on the wheel seems to be on the wrong side, with no way of getting it
  on the
  other side.
  Opinions? Maybe one should be suspicious of things bought at flea
  markets.
  On the other hand, this seller's Spanish mundillo seems OK, and I
  really
  like the pillow with ring stand, which I think is German.
  Laurie

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Re: [lace] Ipswich bobbins?

[Vicki Bradford]

Brian, 
Are you aware that Marta's article was written while she was researching 
Ipswich lace on a broader scale and that she published a full treatise/book 
entitled, The Laces of Ipswich: The Art and Economics of an Early American 
Industry, 1750-1840 (Paperback, 176 pages, January, 2003) ? (She also married 
after the original articles were published and her book is published under her 
married name, Marta Cotterell Raffel.)? If memory serves, our local guild 
(Chesapeake Regional Lace Guild-CRLG) awarded a grant to her to assist her in 
her original research and we were privileged to have her give a lecture?at one 
of our Lace Days before the book was finalized. ?Members of our guild created 
replica Ipswich-style pillows and bobbins and periodically demonstrate Ipswich 
lacemaking?at the newly reopened National Museum of American History of the 
Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.? If you aren't aware, I believe the 
bobbins were made of bamboo or something very similar and are v
 ery simple.? The proportions and shape remind me a bit of some I have seen 
Puerto Rican lacemakers use.? Think of a plain dowel with a straight cut in for 
the neckall else is straight and plain.? I do believe the Ipswich bobbins' 
necks, both actual and replicas, were carved or cut in?by hand, not turned on a 
lathe.? About 8 years ago, I had the opportunity to visit the Whipple House in 
Ipswich, Massachusetts which houses some samples of the original laces, as well 
as a number of other very interesting items.? It is?well worth a visit.? 

Vicki in Silver Spring, Maryland, USA 



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From: Brian Lemin br...@exemail.com.au
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: [lace] Ipswich bobbins?


Do any of you or your friends actually have an Ipswich bobbin? They seem to be 
like hens teeth!?
?
If you do have such a bobbin I will write you such a sweet and appealing letter 
for a picture. :) Just a happy snap or two will do.?
?
If you want to know more about Ipswich lace then this is the only article I 
know of, but there is a museum there to visit.?
?
# Cotteral. Marta. M. (1996) The Laces of Ipswich, Massachusetts. The Bulletin 
of the ILOI 17:4. Summer 1996-97. (:14-16)?
?
? A good article that includes quite good information on the bobbins together 
with a couple of photographs featuring the bobbins.?
?
From Brian and Jean;?
in Cooranbong. Australia??

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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carolyn Hastings]

I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were
embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of a
single person.  And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I would
estimate around 10 panels?)

Carolyn

 -Original Message-
 From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM
 To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,
 
 Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?
 She
 lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I
 think
 still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as
 you can
 imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made
 for
 Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the
 one, and
 was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.
 
 Carol - Suffolk UK
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Carolyn Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
 Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 
  Dear Katrina,
 
  I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of
 my
  message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really
 wasn't
  referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to the
 lace
  that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich
 Historical
  Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and
 were
  donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the
 connection
  of
  the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace
  industry
  here in New England.
 
  As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of
 embroidery
  that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer
 in
  Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and talent,
 in
  addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your**
 Ipswich.
 
  I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged
 to be
  so close to a historical lacemaking center.
 
  Best,
  Carolyn
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
  Of Katrina longmuir
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
  Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace
 in
  paragraph 5)
 
  Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I
 said I
  was
  Katrina in
  a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
  found the
  man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
  justice after
  all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.
 
  In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the
  background
  of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to
 obtain
  further information.
 
  It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of
  the town
  I live in
  where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to
 hear
  the
  history and to
  dip into the background of something we love so much.
  Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -
  best
  regards from
 
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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carolyn Hastings]

No idea why I phrased the last email that way -- I meant those to be
statements, not questions.

Carolyn

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Carolyn Hastings
 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: 'Carol Adkinson'; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace@arachne.com
 Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 I have to ask -- I did have the impression that the tapestries were
 embroidered by one or more needlework guilds, and thus not the work of
 a
 single person.  And there were a series of panels, not a single one (I
 would
 estimate around 10 panels?)
 
 Carolyn
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:59 AM
  To: Carolyn Hastings; 'Katrina longmuir'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  lace@arachne.com
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
  Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,
 
  Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?
  She
  lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I
  think
  still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as
  you can
  imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made
  for
  Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the
  one, and
  was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.
 
  Carol - Suffolk UK
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  lace@arachne.com
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
  Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)
 
 
   Dear Katrina,
  
   I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace
 of
  my
   message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really
  wasn't
   referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to
 the
  lace
   that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich
  Historical
   Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and
  were
   donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the
  connection
   of
   the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace
   industry
   here in New England.
  
   As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of
  embroidery
   that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this
 summer
  in
   Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and
 talent,
  in
   addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your**
  Ipswich.
  
   I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel
 privileged
  to be
   so close to a historical lacemaking center.
  
   Best,
   Carolyn
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf
   Of Katrina longmuir
   Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com
   Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace
  in
   paragraph 5)
  
   Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I
  said I
   was
   Katrina in
   a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
   found the
   man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
   justice after
   all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.
  
   In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear
 the
   background
   of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to
  obtain
   further information.
  
   It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought
 of
   the town
   I live in
   where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to
  hear
   the
   history and to
   dip into the background of something we love so much.
   Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters
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   regards from
  
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK USA)

[Carol Adkinson]

Hi Katrina, Jeri, Carolyn and All,

Was the Ipswich tapestry the one designed and made by Isabel Clover?   She 
lives locally (Suffolk UK) and does the most exquisite work, and I think 
still runs classes in Goldwork, and Church Embroidery - they are, as you can 
imagine, usually over-subscribed!   I know the one she recently made for 
Ipswich has been on show in the US - I assume that this must be the one, and 
was so pleased to hear that you thought highly of it too.


Carol - Suffolk UK



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From: Carolyn Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Katrina longmuir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:11 AM
Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace ( UK  USA)



Dear Katrina,

I'm sorry that you were disappointed to find that the Ipswich lace of my
message was from Ipswich, USA.  Add to that the fact that I really wasn't
referring to what we Americans call Ipswich Lace, but rather to the lace
that is currently housed at the museums operated by the Ipswich Historical
Society.  The laces in these collections is of a huge variety, and were
donated over a period of time by people who were aware of the connection 
of
the town of Ipswich (Massachusetts) to the 18th-early 19th c. lace 
industry

here in New England.

As an aside, I would like to mention the beautiful exhibit of embroidery
that was made in the town of Ipswich (UK) and on display this summer in
Ipswich (USA).  It was a very impressive display of skill and talent, in
addition to being a lot of fun in learning more about **your** Ipswich.

I live about fifty miles from Ipswich (MA, USA), but feel privileged to be
so close to a historical lacemaking center.

Best,
Carolyn


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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in
paragraph 5)

Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I
was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just
found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is
justice after
all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.

In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the
background
of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain
further information.

It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of
the town
I live in
where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to hear
the
history and to
dip into the background of something we love so much.
Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -
best
regards from

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Ilske Thomsen]

Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.


Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[clayblackwell]

Thanks to all of you who answered my question.  I haven't taken the time to 
learn more about Ipswich.  Now I know something of what it *isn't*...  should 
probably try to learn more about what it is.  ; )

Clay

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 Clay, 
 it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
 find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place. 
 
 Ilske 
 
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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Regina Haring]

Here's a picture of a bit of Ipswich lace 
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm157.html


The ground is very heavy and the effect is nowhere near as attractive as the 
eBay sample.


Regina

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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?



Clay,
it's for sure a simple but handmade Point Ground Lace. This pattern we 
find on several places so it's very dificult to say from which place.


Ilske



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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Katrina longmuir]

What a shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was Ipswich
USA not Ipswich where
 I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my 'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Brenda Paternoster]

Definitely hand made point ground lace, but without a powerful 
magnifier and the OIDFA PG study book it's impossible to to be any more 
precise because it's fairly simple pattern so likely to have been 
made/made in more than one of the point ground areas.


Brenda

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There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace.  It 
is very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - 
signalling the likelihood that it is handmade.  It is being sold from 
Pennsylvania.  I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace?


Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement 
on that?


Here's the URL:  http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh

Thanks for your ideas on this.  I'm totally in the dark when it 
comes to Ipswich.


Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

[Jeriames]

In a message dated 2/21/2008 11:19:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What a  shame I read Ipswich Lace and shot into the link to find it was 
Ipswich
USA  not Ipswich where
I currently reside well never mind I'll get on with my  'Ipswich Lace' and
dream on..


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Dear ???  (no signature)
 
Sorry for your disappointment.  I am surprised you have not heard  references 
to Ipswich lace, because Americans have referred to it quite often on  
Arachne.
 
On September 12, 2007, I replied privately to a lady in the UK who  asked 
about Ipswich Lace, and the text of that letter with some  additions (no copy 
sent that time to Arachne) may be more than you  want to know, but informative 
to 
others.
 
Ipswich Lace was made in Ipswich Massachusetts, north of Boston and near  the 
Atlantic coast, in the Colonial period.  One wearer of the lace was  Martha 
Washington, wife of the first President.  It was a cottage industry,  and at 
one time there were 600 lacemakers within the town of 601  households.
 
The lace has the distinction of being the only one associated with an  
American handmade lace industry.  At no other place in America found so  far, 
was 
lace made, collected, and sold, as a somewhat organized business  enterprise.  
It was made of white cotton or linen, or very often of black  silk.
 
Pat Earnshaw (British author of lace books) describes it as similar to  point 
de Paris, or the black Erzegebrige laces of Saxony.  Nearly always, I  have 
seen it in black.  Look in Pat Earnshaw's book, A Dictionary of  Lace, p. 5  
p. 86 for text only, no pictures.  You can also look in  lace identification 
books, though it will not be in many.  Look under  American lace and look 
under Ipswich lace.  Those who have been  asking about Pilgrims wearing 
lace, read brief text on p. 5 of this  book!
 
An aside:  The late Michael Auclair belonged to the same Lace Guild of  New 
York that I belonged to in the 1970's.  He was a collector of  antique laces, 
and made lace for restoration projects at museums.   He reproduced black 
samples of the Ipswich Lace held by the Library of  Congress.  These were 
intended 
to be displayed in the  Whipple House (museum) in Ipswich, MA.  If they were 
the same samples I saw  just a few years ago at the Whipple House, they were 
(during my visit) encased  in dirty plastic envelopes accompanied by silverfish 
(insects).   Ugh!  Too memorable to forget.  End of aside. 
 
There is a book of 156 pages The Laces of Ipswich - The Art and Economics  
of an Early American Industry, 1750-1840 by Marta Cotterell Raffel, paperback, 
 printed by University Press of New England - _www.upne.com_ 
(http://www.upne.com) , ISBN 1-58465-163-6, soft cover,  original cost $25 in 
2003.
 
Prior to publication of the (above) book, Marta M. Cotterell presented  a 
paper The Laces of Ipswich, Massachusetts: An American Industry, 1750-1840  
at 
the Dublin Seminar for New England Folklife Annual Proceedings in 1997.   This 
earlier, shorter treatment of her subject appears in Textiles in Early New  
England: Design, Production, and Consumption published by Boston  University. 
 Another article in this book is Lace Schools and Lace  Factories: Female 
Outwork in New England's Machine-Lace Industry, 1818-1838 by  Richard M. 
Candee. 
 
Anyone could do a search via Google, or whatever search engine you  use, for 
Ipswich Lace (American).  Also search the author's name  separately.  
 
This particular item, Ipswich Lace, has the distinction of having  examples 
in the Library of Congress, Washington, D.C.  In the very early  days of the 
United States, requests went out from the central government to  communities to 
send detailed information about industries.   Enclosed with information about 
Ipswich Laces were short cuttings of  several examples.  Most industries could 
not send examples in a letter  envelope, but lace was something that could be 
enclosed - and was.
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center




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RE: [lace] Ipswich Lace (a reference to Pilgrims and lace in paragraph 5)

[Katrina longmuir]

Dear Jeri Ames, If my signature block had stayed on my message I said I was
Katrina in
a very bleak Ipswich in England, (where incidentaly they have just found the
man charged with 5 girls murder in December 2006 Guilty-there is justice after
all), but we are hoping for warmer weather this weekend.

In answer to your very informative answer I was pleased to hear the background
of 'Ipswich Lace' and will certainly find the books mentioned to obtain
further information.

It was just that for a moment when reading Ipswich Lace I thought of the town
I live in
where there are several lacemakers today.  But it is wonderful to hear the
history and to
dip into the background of something we love so much.
Thank you once again and I will certainly keep reading the letters -best
regards from

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Re: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?

[Regina Haring]

To me this lace has the characteristics of a very simple Chantilly - 
couldn't that be a Tulle ground?  The motifs are outlined in gimp and look 
like half stitch (not linen) and there are picots on the edge - all 
essential to Chantilly.  Chantilly was made by machine as early as the 
1870's.

Regina

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: [lace] Ipswich Lace on eBay?


There is currently a listing on eBay for a length of black lace.  It is 
very simple in design, and seems to be fairly unevenly worked - signalling 
the likelihood that it is handmade.  It is being sold from Pennsylvania. 
I wonder if this is some Ipswich lace?


Does anyone out there know enough about this lace to make a judgement on 
that?


Here's the URL:  http://tinyurl.com/2ealrh

Thanks for your ideas on this.  I'm totally in the dark when it comes to 
Ipswich.


Clay

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Lynchburg, VA USA

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Ipswich question needs immediate reply

[TwoHappyBees]

Hi Jane, 

I'm supposed to be asleep in preparation for an early morning departure for 
Ithaca, but couldn't resist your question!  I visited Ipswich a few years ago 
with particular interest in seeing the examples of old Ipswich lace.  I am 
pretty certain the small display which exists was in the John Whipple House.  You 
can surf to get particulars, but I found one reference that said it was open 
Wednesday-Sunday, May-October--call for times (978) 356-2811.  We barely got 
there in time for the last tour of the day, but the rush was more than worth 
the visit, not only for the lace, but for the many other interesting items in 
the house, and the interesting fellow who conducts the tour.  He regaled us 
with the origins of many expressions I've always known but never knew where they 
came from.  Marta Cotterell's book on Ipswich lace may provide more info on 
any other displays.

Vicki in Maryland where we are enjoying the chill of autumn's arrival

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