[lace-chat] Roundabouts

2003-11-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thanks for the link to the picture, Karen.
I am just glad they don't have something like that here in Melbourne!
What a nightmare to navigate!!

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] Canberra

2003-11-13 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
That small cottage in Canberra is called Blundell's Cottage, I believe, and
is from the very early settlement days.  It is on the banks, now, of Lake
Burley Griffin.
When Helen & I went there, many, many years ago, there was a little old man
looking after it, and he showed us some old needleworking tools, etc, and he
got them from Nerilla's Antiques. Many Oz lacemakers will remember Nerilla,
who sadly has passed on, now.
She was invited to be guest speaker at the Melbourne Lace Days, on a regular
basis, and brought with her, from Sydney, where she lived, some of her
tools, needlework gizmos etc.   Her talks were just SO entertaining, and
informative.  She also had a stall where we could buy some of her small
antique tools.  She is sadly missed.
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread donlynn
Well the Wallabies in the forest of France has hit the local news.  It was
just shown as a highlighted story for tonight's edition.  Perhaps they
include a few of the now almost extinct species missing from the bush.  I
wonder if the Australian government would allow them to emigrate back to
their homeland.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

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[lace-chat] Re: Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
All this talk about wallabies sighted here and there out of their  
"natural habitat", and I realised that I had no idea what they were  
like (except similiar to kangaroos)...  Not what size they were, not  
how they differed from kangaroos. So, I went a-googling... :)

Well, they don't *differ* from kangaroos  And, mistaking one for a  
rabbit, in a French countryside (where one might expect to see a  
rabbit, but not a pint-sized kangaroo) is not as laughable as all  
that...

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/marsupial/ 
Wallabyprintout.shtml

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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] Re: colour blindness etc.

2003-11-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Nov 13, 2003, at 19:56 US/Eastern, sharon wrote:

When I was in art college (gods, was it really 40 yrs ago?) [...]
We were told that with interior decorating one must *never, ever*, use 
purple.  Purple was considered a colour that encouraged depression and 
suicide.  Interesting eh?
I never went to art school, never "did" much art, except for the 
compulsory once-a-week drawing class in primary and high school, but I 
*do* find most shades of purple depressing and avoid it like a plague. 
I do have some purples in my thread stash, but that's because much of 
my lacework is for gifts, and so many people seem to favour and request 
it.

It doesn't make me *suicidal*(only Gregorian chants have that power 
), but it sure saps all my will to continue living :) My Mother once 
made a purple dress for me (in the days when fabric was hard to find, 
so you bought what happened to be available) and I could never stop 
shivering whenever I wore it; I was always *cold* in it (despite its 
bright-gold buttons), my face would acquire the same (dead) purple 
hue... I experimented, one more time, some 30 yrs later, with lilac -- 
a lovely a piece of silk my stepson's wife gave me. I spent much more 
time making that dress than wearing it -- once was all I wore it, and I 
felt ill throughout the party.

I never could quite understand the aversion, since it's not a truly 
"cold" colour (I don't, particularly, like cold colours, with the 
exception of a few shades), but I'm pragmatic enough to accept what 
*is*, whatever the reason...

T, expecting a lot of flak once the fan pattern is published in the 
next IOLI Bulletin; I used 4 shades of green, and called 2 of them 
"warm"... :)
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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] closet weight-training lacemakers

2003-11-13 Thread Sabine H
Good on you, Avital and Bev!

They say a bit of exercise is good for you.

I also do a little bit of weight training on the side, with my weights sitting
on the floor near the TV ready to use while I'm watching something on the box.
My DH started Kyokushin karate earlier this year to learn a bit of self
defence and get fit, so I decided to join the ladies get fit class at the same
place.

 We have this crazy little scotsman who is the owner/trainer/sensei and he
takes us through our exercises with various weights -1,2 & 3 kg.  I get there
as often as my shiftwork allows.

I just wish there were more hours in the day or days in the week for all the
things I want to do, like starting the lace projects running round in my head,
or even finishing some UFOs  LOL!!

Bye for now
Sabine
Spider 2 from Cooma
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[lace-chat] colour blindness etc.

2003-11-13 Thread
When I was in art college (gods, was it really 40 yrs ago?)  We had a young
fellow that all the instructors were raving about..he used such unusual
colour combinations.  Well, in his third year, they finally learned he was
colour blind..really says something about the art faculty eh?  Brings to
mind how current colour fads have changed.  We were told that with interior
decorating one must *never, ever*, use purple.  Purple was considered a
colour that encouraged depression and suicide.  Interesting eh?  We were
also told that one shouldn't use primary colours with children because it
was far too stimulating and made them hyperactive.  Sharon  on dull
Vancouver Island

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Re: [lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Oh!  I know it well!!!   It was the first time I'd heard of magic roundabouts,
and I didn't believe it could work at all!!!I vowed to avoid the magic at
all costs, but the day came when I found myself entering the dratted thing and
the only way to go was onwards!   

The next day, I was talking to an elderly couple about the differences between
driving in Australia or driving in England, and I mentioned "that" roundabout -
and the dear old lady said:  "I've got the ideal way to cope it, I just close
my eyes"!So I asked her, did she drive?   "Oh No!  my husband does that!"

Which didn't help me much at all, because I was driving on my own!!   I finally
decided they just take a little practice, but there's no way an Australian will
believe they work - most roundabouts out here tend to be about 10 - 15' across,
and I suspect the "give way to the right rule" no longer exists, so they just
can't envisage it at all.

There's another one at St. Albans, took my DH there a couple of years ago, just
to show off to him!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
 --- Karen Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As well as traffic
lights on roundabouts in the UK,  there is also the magic
> roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
> ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
> and anticlockwise direction.
> 
> And just in case you don't believe me or understand , there's a picture at
> http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm
> 
> Karen in Coventry, who is about to go and teach children how to make lace
> snakes.


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Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south

2003-11-13 Thread donlynn
Noelene, I so agree with your description of Canberra, with all the
communities hidden in valleys, it is almost impossible to get your bearings,
it amazes me that we can head your way "thru the city" and never actually
see Canberra.
Lynn Scott in Wollongong, saying hooray for sunshine I have heaps of laundry
to hang.

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[lace-chat] Re: Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Nov 13, 2003, at 04:07 US/Eastern, Jean Nathan wrote:

DH isn't colour blind, but to him there's no such colour as turquoise 
- it's
either blue or green.
Well... I always thought that turquoise was  "greeny-*blue*", but I've 
seen some that was almost entirely green... As Brenda says, "peach" is 
a vague colour too (apricot is more reliable, though )... And there 
are others, like "jade" or "amber". And you never know what you're 
going to get when you order something, sight-unseen, just by such a 
name; it depends on which particular version of "peach" or "amber" or 
"jade" the poducer might have in mind. Recently, I came across 
"hibiscus" (Pipers silks)... Sigh... As if hibiscus had only one shade 
:) And: "avocado" -- do we mean the innards or the skin? And, if the 
skin, is it the skin of the really "bumpy" one (v dark) or the smooth 
one (much brighter). "Olive"? the "black" one or the green one? And 
never mind "celery" -- when was the last time those people went grocery 
shopping? Or anywhere shopping? Stones are being irradiated, so you get 
green amber and blue topaz, flowers are cross-pollinated till lilac can 
be red...

But I think, men in general (colour blind or no) tend to agonise less 
about the tiny differences in *shades*; mine certainly does. To him, 
"brown" is "brown", and the shade of it is immaterial. He even told me 
once (the nerve! ) that the ensemble I was wearing was wrong -- his 
mother always told him that brown and black didn't "go together". Yes, 
maybe, but the "brown" in question was mahogany, and on the red side of 
it at that...

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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Re: [lace-chat] Canberra & Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Ruth Budge
Liz - probably to help us poor Sydney-ites who have trouble coping with your
right-turn system!

Ruth Budge

 --- Elizabeth Ligeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 
> Here in Melbourne we have a roundabout that also has traffic lights at each
> intersection!  Just to be doubley sure!!! :))
> 
> from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] S.P. Thank you

2003-11-13 Thread harlequin.lace
What a lovely surprise I had when I opened the parcel that arrived this
morning. I will make good use of the eye pillow as I have had several
operations on my eyes, it will help to take the ache out of them at the end of
a long day.
The book marks are very pretty and I look forward to making them in the
future, as I am making lace fairies at the moment.
Thank you so much for my "smelly" parcel
 Best Wishes
   Sue  in a dull overcast Southampton U.K.

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Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south

2003-11-13 Thread Judy
> Now Adelaide...that's another matter   A planned city, with nice
straight
> roads planned on a grid - impossible to get lost there!!
>

The town where I went to university is also on a grid system and I thought
it was the easiest place in the world to navigate,  until I dated a young
man who said he was always lost.I began to question his directional
abilities at that point because not only were the streets on a grid, the
east-west streets were numerical, and the north-south streets were
alphabetical!

And because the city was in the midst of a large agricultural area, the
major streets were generally a mile apart, based on the old section lines.
(A 'section' is one square mile or 640 acres.)  Even in the huge city where
I now live, the major streets in my suburbs are mostly one mile apart, again
because of the old section lines.  Where my house now sits was a rice field
less than 25 years ago.

Judy, waiting for the cold front in Houston
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Re: [lace-chat] Left/right/north/south

2003-11-13 Thread Ruth Budge
I seem to remember reading, when we came to Australia, that Canberra had been
designed,  not only to "look" nice, but to be easy to navigate around!!  
However, for over 20 years my Father and I would, on our trips to Canberra, go
in search of the railway station.  There it was, on the map.  There were
signposts directing one to the railway station.  But we were never successful
in finding it.  I can even remember one sign which pointed the way - it was a
pathway, which cut straight across the centre of a roundabout, which roundabout
had a small forest growing in the middle of it.  So Dad drove around the
roundabout to find the other end of the pathway.  There was a signpost on the
other end of the pathway also pointing the way to the station  straight
back towards the side of the roundabout to where we'd started!!!

Many's the time I've done the same as Noelene - apparently missed the road I'm
looking for, but ended up where I wanted to be anyway...can't really work it
out!   

(For those who don't know - a large area in the centre of Canberra has roads
which are based on a circular pattern...if I remember correctly, a circular
road around Parliament House is the centre of it all, and the circles get
bigger the further away from PH you get.

Now Adelaide...that's another matter   A planned city, with nice straight
roads planned on a grid - impossible to get lost there!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
 --- W & N Lafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
   But as that involved a maze of roads, I opted for the
> simpler route of turning south, and linking up with a major road that would
> curve around to the east then back west and end up very close to where I
> wanted to go.  According to the street directory, that is.
> 
> I never did find the major road, but some 10 minutes later I found myself 
> at the intersection of the street where I wanted to get to, 

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Re: [lace-chat] Colour blindness and turquoise

2003-11-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
A standard six colour colour-wheel has the primary colours, (red, blue 
& yellow) and the secondary colours, (purple, green and orange) 
arranged:  red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple.  You can sub 
divide to include  yellow, green-yellow, yellow-green, green, 
blue-green, green-blue, blue .

Turquoise is somewhere around green-blue or blue-green but is a rather 
vague name, a bit  like "peach" is that orange, yellow orange, 
red-orange, orange-red?
On 13 Nov 2003, at 09:07, Jean Nathan wrote:

DH isn't colour blind, but to him there's no such colour as turquoise 
- it's
either blue or green. He won't necessarily agree with me that a 
particular
shade/hue of turquoise is leaning towards blue or towards green. I'll 
say a
colour is a greeny turquoise, he'll say it's blue. Then another shade 
that I
say is another greeny turquoise, he'll say is green.
Brenda

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Re: [lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

They have one of those in hemel Hempstead too!   When they built it, it was
an absolute nightmare, but when I went back home after it was finished, and
went round it for the first time, it seemed fairly straightforward - until
you find someone absolutely petrified in the middle of one of the smaller
roundabouts, terrified to move any way at all in case she (yes - it was a
she!) hits something!

Carol - in East Anglia, UK - where the worst roundabout is on the dge of
Colchester, on the way to the University.  Negotiate that at speed, with
eyes shut!!!

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Re: [lace-chat] Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
Margery, Dominique et al,

There have been sightings in the Peak District in the UK too - up around the
Snake Pass and the Kinder Scout areas.  They give one quite a shock, and
no-one really sems to know where they originally came from - they have been
there for upwards of fifty years, but the nearest zoo used to be in
Manchester, so if they'd come from there, they'd had quite a journey!

Carol - in East Anglia, UK

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
To my Secret Pal,

Well what a lovely surprise.   We had a note thro' the door that there was a
package to be picked up at the Post Office, so off I toddled, and I was
thrilled when I opened it.

The sweets were a treat - they didn't do the diabetes any harm, as we had our
three grandchildren with us for the weekend, and they were very helpful in
getting rid of them!They really were delicious, as they children can also
testify!

I loved the notepaper - almost too good to use!   The keyring was a delight
too, so that has my house keys on it already, and the bobbins will be wound
for the lace for my daughter-in-law's father's surplice - he is being ordained
a permanent deacon in July and, although I have known about this for two
years, the lace is still in my mind, not on the pillow!So - I shall now
use the bobbins, and get cracking.

Thanks once again - you are so generous.

Carol

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[lace-chat] Bush's visit to UK

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Jean Peach wrote:



A quick google came up with this from the Evening Standard newspaper:

"Anti-war protesters today vowed to swamp London streets when George Bush
makes a state visit as guest of the Queen from 19-21 November.
Police are planning the biggest security operation ever seen in Britain,
amid fears of terrorist attacks, and that tensions over Iraq will cause
violence.
President Bush will stay at Buckingham Palace and will be honoured by a
state banquet. He will hold talks with Tony Blair and may be invited to
address Parliament.
The trip is a payback for the rapturous greeting given to Tony Blair in July
by the US Congress for his backing over Iraq.
Andrew Murray, of the Stop the War Coalition, said the protest could attract
record crowds."

I also heard on Radio 4 this morning that there will be 5,000 police on the
streets as well as Bush's security people and that streets will be closed as
thought necessary, ie when Bush is travelling along them. The streets are
being closed so that protestors can't get near the routes he'll take and
Bush won't see them. There's been some concern that security will be taken
out of the hands of the British police, but the police are saying that they
are in overall control and that the American security people will be
answerable to them.

Personally, I wouldn't visit London while this is going on as a lot of our
police are bound to be armed, and we're not used to seeing firearms being
carried on our streets. I'd be worried by that.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] "Dirty" book about Mother Theresa

2003-11-13 Thread Carol Adkinson
Sue Ellen.

I also am not too impressed with Mother Theresa - although as a Catholic, I
suppose I should 'toe the party line'.

I have only quickly skimmed thro' Hitchens' book, but his thoughts on the
monies raised, and which were used to found new convents all over the world,
instead of hospitals etc. for the destitute in India which she cared for,
were similar to mine.

On a more general theme, I also tend to think that vows of poverty etc. mean
very little when all your living needs are met from the common purse - of
course, there are no luxuries in convents, but there is no shortage of food
or the essentials of life, which is not the case if you are a young lone
mother with several children, living on what are laughingly called benefits!
Many priests live what is called a life of poverty, but they can still jaunt
off to Rome and travel internationally to visit friends - which the majority
of their parishioners can't do.  So maybe living a life of poverty is - like
beauty - in the eye of the bejolder!

Carol in East Anglia, UK


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Re: [lace-chat] closet weight-training lacemakers

2003-11-13 Thread Bev Walker
> to 38". Funny--I met him a couple years ago when he was here in Israel
> and he sure didn't look like the Incredible Hulk in a buttondown shirt
> and tie ;-)

he he - the suit doesn't make the man :~  but I bet he had confidence.

My dear youngest son pushes weights I can't even move and he *is* built
like the Hulk (but he's more like a teddy bear - don't tell him I said
that).

 -- bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thanks

2003-11-13 Thread Margot Walker
I got your package this morning and what a lot of memories it brought 
back.  I actually visited 5 of the churches on the dish towel, years ago 
when I took a fascinating 3 day study tour called 'The vernacular 
architecture of East Anglia" and then some years later, when I took a 2 
week course at Cambridge University.  The tape measure will come in very 
handy.  I've carried one in my purse for years.  Actually it's so old 
that the markings on the first 4 inches have worn off and there's no 
metric measurements on it.  I've been meaning to replace it and now I 
have a lovely one from the Lacemakers' Circle.  I'll try out the 
embroidery floss bobbin winder this afternoon.  It should be very 
handy.  Thanks again.  The parcel was a great way to bring some sunlight 
into a very grey, rainy day.

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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[lace-chat] Secret pal thank you

2003-11-13 Thread lacemaker
Thank you dear pal for the 2004/2005 planner.The Cool clip bookmark,real
cool. And the chocolates.They were in a neat gold bag.Will share with DH
if he is good.
Thank you brighten my day.
Love Daphne

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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Jane Partridge
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Karen Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
>ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
>and anticlockwise direction.
We've got one in Tamworth, too - they've tried all sorts of things with
it over the years, but the present solution seems to work.  It's known
as "The Egg" - basically because the central island is egg shaped. When
they built the mini islands, it became a somewhat scrambled egg!
-- 
Jane Partridge

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[lace-chat] Help finding an Australian Lady

2003-11-13 Thread Haddad
I've lost contact with an e-pal, and I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get in 
contact with her.  Her name is Terri Kelly, and is a wonderful sew-er. She also 
made/makes patterns for garments for nursing mothers, using the name "mother-care"?  
In the transfer over to a larger hard-drive, somehow I lost her current email addy. 
The one I have is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it doesn't work.  Nor have I found a website 
for her, although she used to have one.  Terri is a thoroughly delightful lady, and I 
would very much like to get in contact with her again. (Besides, I have a little 
parcel I think she would appreciate as her summer approaches). If you know how I can 
get in touch with her again, or by some slim chance know her, please email me 
privately. Or give her my email addy and ask her to get in touch with me.

I know it's a long shot (how annoying is it when someone from a country you are 
visiting says, "Oh, you're from . . . , I have a friend/relative/etc. there, maybe you 
know him/her!) but because of her business, and because you arachneans seem to be such 
founts of wisdom and knowledge, I'm venturing to ask. Thank-you in advance.

btw - is it PC to refer to people from Australia as "Aussies", or is that a term they 
are allowed to use of themselves, but not others? In sociology, "ingroup/outgroup". 
Just wondering.

Rose-Marie
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where it's too early to tell what kind of a day we're going to have, but seems mild 
and dry.

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[lace-chat] Canberra roads - Swindon

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Peach
Reading all your messages about Canberra, I lived there till 1973,
had no problems getting around.  Then in 1999 I went back, I tried to get
to the new Parliament, never got there could see the New Parliament 
Building but just did not have a clue how to find the road to it.
I would have loved to have gone inside as I had on occasions worked at
the old parliament. I tried to find the street I lived in Watson, 
all the roads had changed, never got there.  I did eventually manage 
to find the suburb of Aranda, even found the house we lived in
in Aranda.  I did not have a map and being on my own.  I did stop 
and ask people, they did not know either. I did manage to get down 
to the Cotter, and then to Tidbinbilla Tracking Station where my DH 
used to work, this time though I went with a friend otherwise I some 
how don't think I would have got there.

Oh that small cottage, we went there when the children were young. Now
where are the photos we took?

My DH won't go to Swindon because of all those mini-roundabouts.

Jean in Newbury

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Re: [lace-chat] Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Sue Babbs
Oh that's interesting, my DH also comes up with funny descriptions of turquoise 
things, and doesn't seem to
agree to use the turquoise name.
Sue
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> DH isn't colour blind, but to him there's no such colour as turquoise - it's
> either blue or green.

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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra roads

2003-11-13 Thread Ian & Chelle Long
Gidday Helen & Noelene and all,



[lace-chat] Bush's visit to UK

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Peach
Can anyone tell me when Bush's is visiting London.  Why I ask
is this.  First we had Ken Livingstone saying he had been told
to close the centre of London down for the three days that
Bush would be here on an official visit, he is apparently
staying with the Queen.  Ken Livingstone said that would be
impossible.  I came in from work this morning to be told by
my DH that Blair has decided that as and when Bush is
travelling around London they would use Terrorist legislation
so that certain roads can be closed when Bush wants to use them.
If that is the case I don't want to be in London whilst 
Bush is here as I need get around to quite a few places and
don't want to get stuck.

Jean in Newbury UK 

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Re: [lace-chat] closet weight-training lacemakers

2003-11-13 Thread Margery Allcock
Liz said:
"Avital, 5'0" is only scary if it is your waist measurement"

and Avital said:

"Or my shoe size
  Sasquatch-ital"

But Avital, if you have five feet, who cares what size they are?  That's
scary!  LOL!

Margery.


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[lace-chat] Wallabies

2003-11-13 Thread Margery Allcock
Dominique said:
"i just heard on tv that there were grey wallabies roaming in Rambouillet
forest near Paris .. they escaped unnoticed from an animal park some thirty
years ago and found the place was alright for breeding ..."


There are wallabies on the loose in Bedfordshire (England) too - several
generations ago they got loose within and outside Whipsnade Zoo near
Dunstable.  The ones inside the zoo grounds are fairly tame - they creep up
behind you and look to see what you're having for lunch, then bounce away if
you get too close.  I haven't seen the ones in the countryside, myself, but
many people have reported seeing them.

Hardy little animals, then. 

Margery.

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[lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Karen Butler
As well as traffic lights on roundabouts in the UK,  there is also the magic
roundabout in Swindon.  This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller
ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise
and anticlockwise direction.

And just in case you don't believe me or understand , there's a picture at
http://www.strum.co.uk/wessex/brunpic.htm

Karen in Coventry, who is about to go and teach children how to make lace
snakes.

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thanks.

2003-11-13 Thread Shirley Meier
Dear Secret Pal, Thank you for my parcel which arrived today. The bobbin is
the most beautiful one I have seen, I have heard of Stuart Johnson but have
never seen his work. I can't wait to make a start on my Xmas decoration. Have
my thinking hat on as to who you might be.
I have been making lace fo 12 years. My birthday has just gone, Nov 9th. I
collect cat ornaments and cuddly Teddies.
Shirley in lovely sunny Oz.

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[lace-chat] Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Nathan
DH isn't colour blind, but to him there's no such colour as turquoise - it's
either blue or green. He won't necessarily agree with me that a particular
shade/hue of turquoise is leaning towards blue or towards green. I'll say a
colour is a greeny turquoise, he'll say it's blue. Then another shade that I
say is another greeny turquoise, he'll say is green. To me, there's no logic
in what he sees.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Colour blindness

2003-11-13 Thread Laceandbits
I have moved my comments to chat as they are no longer at all lace related.

My partner is colour blind, and is the first person I had ever met who is.  
His "affliction" doesn't work at all as I had always thought of colour 
blindness - if I'd thought of it much at all.  

I suppose if I had wondered about it, it would have been in relation to 
interesting problems such as if someone can't see the difference between red and 
green, what do they see?  Do they both look red, or both green, or brown which 
is what you get if you mix them - in which case surely they'd be red/ 
green/brown colour blind.

Any way, so long as colours are bright and clear he can see them all.  Where 
his problems start are with more subtle borders.  He has a global "dark" 
colour which covers black, dark grey, brown, blue, red and green.  This means he 
doesn't have a clue which is his navy suit and which is the grey.  In fact, he 
thought they were the same colour (dark).  He can tell if his socks are pairs 
or not, so he must see a difference between black and navy, but still can't see 
navy as a blue.  I guess this is like the back and white television thing.

At the other end he can't see very pale colours as different from white, 
particularly pink.  This has to be a definite colour before he can see it.  We 
also have some conversations at cross purposes when, for example, I am talking 
green and he is talking brown but this only happens when it is khaki/olive green 
so I can understand where his confusion is.  However, he would probably 
maintain that they are really khaki/olive brown as he can see them as clearly 
different from emerald green.

Since I have known him I have found out there are actually a lot of men who 
have this colour blindness at the edges - often not as strongly as Richard but 
the "is it pink or white" especially seems to ring true with quite a lot of 
men.

Jacquie

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[lace-chat] Canberra and Croydon

2003-11-13 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz wrote:



That's not uncommon in the UK. There's a major roundabout of this type a few
hundred yards from my home which I have to use for all journeys east or
south. In addition to the traffic lights, the traffic lane road markings
spiral out from the centre, so if you wanted to go three quarters of the way
round, you go to the centre lane and stay there until the lane you want to
exit on spirals out. The name of the exit road is painted large several
times in each arm of the spiral.

It used to be impossible to get on to the roundabout from some of the five
feeder roads (different ones at different times of the day) unless you had
the courage to throw your car into a space in fast moving traffic which was
just about the same length as your car. Approach roads had huge queues and
there were frequent accidents. Now, in theory, vehicles on all the feeder
roads have an equal chance of getting on to the roundabout (depends on the
timing f the traffic lights), and there's only the occasional collision when
vehicles change lanes to exit. It carries a large volume of traffic, and the
problems usually arise when someone not familiar with it tries to suddenly
exit from the centre lane by cutting across the other lanes because they
hadn't decided which road they need to exit on before getting on to the
roundabout.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] google search

2003-11-13 Thread Helene Gannac
Hi, list!

I just discovered, by going into google search and typing my family name in,
for genealogy purposes, that some of my emails to this list came up in the
search!! (fortunately wihout my email address, it says "Email protected") Not
everything I've written, just one email I sent to Ruth bean, and one when we
had the thread "English is hard to learn" The last one also has a series of
links at the end leading to other postings from other arachnes about the same
subject...
Anyone knows anything about that, or why it should be so? If 2 postings, why
not all? And why any of them at all, since this is supposed to be a
subscription list, therefore not open to the public?
I'm not so much worried as intrigued by this, and would love to hear from those
who know...
Yours in lace,


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[lace-chat] Mother Teresa

2003-11-13 Thread Annette Gill
> Annette:
> well. not to get a flaming, bickering thread going but Equal time for the
opposing view:
> there are plenty of us in the world who don't have a high opinon of MT.
> Sue Ellen

That's so ironic!  I'm with you and Christopher Hitchens on MT, but was
scared of saying anything in my message that might betray that fact, since
so many people seem to think she was practically a saint.  I was so afraid
of offending anyone that this time I've been TOO tactful 

Regards,
Annette, London

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[lace-chat] Argumentative

2003-11-13 Thread W & N Lafferty
Tamara writes
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/

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