Re: LI Sleep Apnea
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Geeze, do I remember that well. :( Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for every man to have to *try* and sleep with one of those things on. Now wouldn't that be fun to watch. Sue Hi Sue LMOF. You know Bill would be one of the few who would know what it was like to be pregnant if he did manage to get on his back g. jackief--Poor Bill, we will be nice for a little while. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: Schooling was LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: The kids not only know about it, but know how to use it at the high school level. In fact a lot of the teachers will lock the door to the classroom when they are in there alone now, because they don't want to be caught in a compromising situation, either real or otherwise, with a student. These kids are smart, believe me. A lot more street wise than we ever were. :( Friday afternoon, Ron was coming back to his classroom from the office, during his lesson planning period, when he caught one of the kids putting graffiti on the door to one of the classrooms. He told the kid to stop, and to come with him to the office. The kid told him to go to hell, and started walking off campus. Ron followed the kid until he saw a campus aide, who took the kid by the arm and took him to the office. The kid denied ever doing what he was caught doing, accusing Ron of lying. Of course the evidence was there, and there was never any doubt at to what he did, or who was telling the truth, and the kid was suspended for two days. This isn't just one incidence of this sort of thing happening, it happens all the time. Not just to Ron, but to all of the teachers. There just doesn't seem to be any respect for authority at all any more. And it is sad. Because these are the same kids who will, if they haven't already, be the ones who will show this disrespect to the police and court systems. :( And IMO it all starts at home. :( Sue Hi Sue And now teachers have sexual harassment to contend with. Believe me, some of the students (ones that really don't want to study, it seems) are aware of this and try to use it to their advantage at the college level. Probably is true at high school level too. Part of the talking back may be the result of the shift in teaching to developing an active student in classroom rather than a passive student. What is intended to be a good thing has its negative consequences when students feel they can use this to be spiteful and nasty rather than becoming active learners. Also there is the trend to have the power relationship more equal so students are encouraged not to use titles (college) etc. Most students call me by my first name--this automatically leads to a more open feeling of saying what you want, rather than being more tactful because of the authority disparity. For some of us, it is not a problem because we are able to work with it to our advantage most of the time--but for others it is really difficult. The biggest problem is how to achieve a balance between respect for our position and our person vrs establishing a good mentoring relationship. Anyone who figures out how to do that should get the Nobel prize. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bob: I think so too. This boy is old enough to know where babies come from. He also knew that what happened before put this woman into prison, and now his mother is raising the baby. And yet he did the same thing all over again. He needs to be shown that some of this mess is his responsibility and he should be held liable for it. I realize that he still hasn't graduated from High School, and I think he should be made to do that, but I also think he should be made to have a part time job to at least help with the financial part of raising these kids. He is getting off Scott free in this thing. His parents should have some sort of counseling or something also. This really is a mess. And there are two babies here that are going to be the ones who will suffer the most in the long run. I also think that when this woman gets out of prison there probably will be a third child. :( Sue hi sue i have always thought the boy should have had some sort of punishment for his part as well as the teacher.or i should say the second time around anyway.it is obvious the boys parents arent going to punish him when they want the two of them togeather.i just think its a real shame and the teacher is getting the blunt of it all.not saying she should get off on the whole deal but i think something should happen to the boy as well,he is old enough to know right from wrong. bob,wa Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Please test my connectivity
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Steve Here is your message back. Ain't it a bother when you don't get all your messages? jackief Steve Wright wrote: Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would be grateful if you would send this message back to me. My average email is about 60-100per day so I need to tell my ISP how much they have lost. Cheers Steve Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: EMF/Jackie
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue That should be an interesting book. I know that sometimes they do look at specific crimes and note a seasonal trend. I have heard there is speculation that this is why the crime rates tend to be higher in the southern states, in addition to differences in culture, etc. I can hardly wait for the book now--you have peaked my interest. jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I don't have the book here anymore, I sent it on Friday. But if I remember correctly it was called the "Season of Killing" or something along those lines. It is written by an LA Times reporter in conjunction with two LAPD Homicide Detectives. It goes through same summer months that Nicole was killed, but has nothing to do with her murder at all. It's about how different temps, etc effect the crime rate and so on. I know you will like it. Physicians and other health care people take that full moon thing very seriously. Don't know why it happens, but believe me it does every time. Sue Oh Sue What a sweetie you are!! What is the name of the book?? I can hardly wait. I really appreciated when you sent the OJ books. I guess Joan liked the niece's one better too. I started looking at weather and other environmental factors that may contribute to crime when I was in graduate school, but got so busy that I didn't keep up with it. So this will be great. I wonder though if the majority of police and doctors really take the mood phases seriously enough though?? Of course the problem that occurs, like any other factor is that some of the criminals may use it as an excuse for their behavior. The trip would be a real first for me as far as being sent a long distance. I have been sent to workshops in MN once or twice, but never across the country. I think if this happens it is because of the changes being made in the community college system with the merge of higher educational institutions in the state. I am keeping my fingers crossed. But I will pay in the long run--he will probably make me present at a duty day or something to the rest of the faculty. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI TRIPLE WHAMMY
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue How come we don't get paid for this? jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Very simple, we're psychic. VBG Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Sleep Apnea
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue That farm background really comes in handy it seems. I had a foreman when I worked at a factory that kept all the obsolete lablers they had running like new. But you really had to watch for the wire, cardboard for filling up spaces, etc. Running the machines once you knew how to adjust by clubbing them with a stick, etc. was a breeze. LOL jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Well that answers one question, my dad was born and raised on a farm. I'm just surprised, now, that I didn't find bailing wire wrapped around the plumbing fixtures now. LOL Actually he did do a great job fixing things, but his way of fixing just wouldn't pass inspection when I went to sell the house. :( Some people are just hard to please. Sue Hi Sue LOLGossip has it that in the 60s and 70s the reason want-ads included farm background helpful in men's want ads is that it was believed young men from farms could fix anything using nothing but wire, tape, and rubber bands. Saved the company money on maintenance in the short-term. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Jim McDougal
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue Read the post earlier about how Tripp's lawyer said she was set-up. H. She just happened to have the goods in her purse. How much you want to bet that Starr wasn't aware of this when he gave her immunity. What I find interesting about this is if this is the case, and the w.h. was so guilty of obstructing justice and smearing their accusers then this should have been leaked to the media ages ago. Could that mean the w.h. were not engaged in those tactics, I wonder. I'll have to figure out what you should be the expert witness so we both can rake in the millions vbg jackief jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Now the Pentagon is looking into Linda Tripp's background, saying something like, she didn't mention that she had been arrested once. And they released some of the transcripts today of Clintons, and the women. To top it off when the press asked Starr today what he thought about the stories of Tripp having been arrested he said that we should "remember that everyone has the obligation to remember to presume innocence until proven differently." Why wasn't that thought of when Clinton was the one on the hot seat, not that he still isn't. All I can ask at this point, is when did he have time to do his job. :) I like the idea of your lawsuit. I'll be your expert witness, ok? Just as good as any other expert witness, IMO. Just tell me what you want me to say. BG Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Sleep Apnea
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue They have a thing you can buy now so men can experience what it is like to be pregnant. It is a teaching aid. You strap it on and then inflate as you go along to simulate the progression of pregnancy. Every house should have one g jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Geeze, do I remember that well. :( Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for every man to have to *try* and sleep with one of those things on. Now wouldn't that be fun to watch. Sue I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: Schooling was LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue They now have a new parenting class at a few schools. It is called "Parenting Without Control." I recently seen the results of that and boy, I was not impressed. The man who wrote the material for the course has a little 5th grader. The little girl told her teacher that she did not have to listen to what she said--first, she was not her parent and second, she was free to make her own choices. Then she told the secretary of the department (not this school) that she had no right to try to control her and tell her what to do--she was rollerblading down the halls of the college. She also told her dad the same thing when he asked her (not told her) if she would mind not rollerblading down the hall. jackief jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: The kids not only know about it, but know how to use it at the high school level. In fact a lot of the teachers will lock the door to the classroom when they are in there alone now, because they don't want to be caught in a compromising situation, either real or otherwise, with a student. These kids are smart, believe me. A lot more street wise than we ever were. :( And IMO it all starts at home. :( Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Computing/Web - Law Psych
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dr. L sorry I haven't answered this. I just found this in my back mail. I will have to give it some thought, but will get back to you on it. Sometimes my computer when it downloads the mail puts some of it with the stuff I have read. I think it must sort by time and some messages arrive later but have been posted sooner--does that make sense?? I do know that there is a fear that people will get so involved with communicating on the internet that face-to-face communication will suffer. There have been instances where two people sitting side by side in a computer lab have been talking to each other through the net rather than having a conversation. jackief Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff wrote: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie - resonating here ... I do agree 'Communication' is a central topic; I am wondering if I can scan in some communication diagrams focussing on social dynamics; will see, but in the meantime might you share some more of your thoughts on these matters? Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Lesson learned: Some jokes aren't funny
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Pinellas County, Fla., jury has acquitted a man who was charged with plotting to murder the Rev. Henry Lyons, the embattled president of the National Baptist Convention USA. Fifty-two-year-old Dale Hutchins had been accused of offering an acquaintance $1,100 to kill the controversial Lyons, who last week was charged with racketeering and grand theft for his alleged mishandling of convention funds. Prosecutors said that on August 12, Hutchins walked into a St. Petersburg doughnut shop where both he and Arthur Siemers were regular customers, slapped a wad of cash down on a counter in front of Siemers and told him he could earn the money by killing Lyons. Siemers, a 59-year-old piano teacher, told police of the incident, and Hutchins was charged with solicitation to commit murder. But Hutchins told investigators he had merely been kidding with Siemers, who was the frequent butt of his jokes. Hutchins told St. Petersburg police detectives, ``Everybody had a little chuckle about it and it was over. He said his only intent was ''to upset Arthur.`` Jurors apparently believed Hutchins did not intend to arrange Lyons' death. After the verdict was announced, juror Joseph Alexander told reporters, ``I think it was a bad, stupid joke.'' Assistant Public Defender David Parry had told the jury that the prosecution pursued the case against Hutchins so as to appear even- handed in its dealings with Lyons -- a suggestion one prosecutor called ``spurious.'' When Circuit Judge Douglas Baird told him he was free to leave, Hutchins, who had faced up to nine years in prison if convicted, turned to prosecutors and said, ``No hard feelings.'' -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought this was hilarious! Lawyers for Paula Jones took the precaution of presenting President Clinton with an explicit written definition of ``sexual relations'' before questioning him under oath on Jan. 17, according to court papers released Friday. Jones alleges that Clinton exposed himself to her and asked for oral sex in a Little Rock hotel in May 1991 when he was Arkansas governor and she was a low-level state employee, an allegation Clinton has denied. Jones' lawyers asked Clinton in the January sworn statement if he had had sexual relations with a number of women. He denied having done so with all except Gennifer Flowers, a former cabaret singer with whom Clinton said he had sex once in 1977. The meaning of ``sexual relations'' is important because of speculation that Clinton would try to use a narrow definition to try to avoid admitting any impropriety. Here is the text of the definition as it was presented to the president on Jan. 17: ``For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes: -- contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person; -- contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or -- contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body. -- Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing.'' -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI This man REALLY has women problems
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An Iranian man has been in and out of prison for the past year, sued alternately by his three wives, a secret former spouse and several other people he cheated, a newspaper reported Thursday. A year ago, Saeed's three wives sued him after learning they had a common husband, the daily Iran said. But in front of the court they started fighting "tooth and nail," and when their husband tried to intervene, they "beat him unconscious." In an about turn, Saeed, a real estate broker, became the plaintiff and filed a suit against his wives, forcing them to pay compensation. But as he stepped out of the court, he was confronted by several people who were suing him for cheating them out of their money by selling them the same house, a fraud which cost him a three-year jail sentence and 74 lashes of the whip. Last week, Saeed was released on parole but, as he was preparing to leave the prison with his three wives waiting outside to greet him, a guard informed him that he had to return to his cell because of a new suit filed against him, by a former wife. Akram, 34, was suing because a check from her former husband had bounced. Saeed had given her the check for seven million rials (around 1,500 dollars) as a backup to his marriage vow, which is customary in Iran. But she charged that her former husband had "cheated me out of my money then left me without any news." "This man is a wolf in the guise of a sheep. He doesn't deserve any pity," she told the judge, adding that she got a divorce in absentia after two years. The court sent Saeed back to prison. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI It's about time!
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The House is considering stricter regulation of the nation's bounty hunters. A bill before the House Judiciary Committee calls for bounty hunters to undergo background checks, carry liability insurance, and announce themselves before bursting into a home. Committee members today praised the profession for catching as many as 88 percent of the bail jumpers they pursue -- compared to the 10 percent recovery rate of conventional law enforcement. But Rep. Robert Toricelli, D-N.J., who sponsored the bill, said abuses by ``overzealous or even criminal bounty hunters...have become far too common.'' Rep. Asa Hutchinson, D-Ark., compiled a litany of 27 recent bounty hunter abuses. In one case, a New York woman was abducted from her front porch and brought handcuffed to Alabama, where the sheriff confirmed what she and the New York police had already said -- the bounty hunters had the wrong person. In another instance, armed bounty hunters broke into the hotel room of a vacationing Rhode Island family in Flordia and held a gun to the mother's head, until they realized she was not the convicted prostitute they were looking for. Other cases included a pregnant woman beaten until she miscarried, a bystander shot in the chest, and fugitives transported in car trunks or tied to the roofs. The bill would ask a national bail enforcement agency to run quick background checks to ensure that convicted felons are not working as bounty hunters. It also directs the attorney general to set out uniform bail bond guidelines for states, particularly a requirement that bounty hunters must ``knock and announce'' before entering a home. And the bill would hold bail bond companies liable for the excesses of the bounty hunters they hire. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Report: Windows 98 Will Be Released
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Jackie :) Your not Alone a LOT of people can't program their VCR's, Scott has never been able to do it, I always have to do it for him LOL yet I couldn't hook up a VCR to a tv if my life depended on it. So far you and Sue have asked for help in what I consider pretty basic area's and I don't mind helping, I figure if the situation was reversed others would do the same :) Jackie Fellows wrote: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh Sue A "true sister," one I never have had. If it says user friendly I can find out where it is not without even trying. I am not known as the "nemesis" to the computer services people at all the schools I have been at for -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI There won't be camera's in his courtroom. :)
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So when is Justice Souter going to tell us how he really feels (VBG) Sue Hartigan wrote: No matter how the question is asked, Supreme Court Justice David H. Souter has the same answer on whether television cameras will be allowed into the nation's highest court: Forget it. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Graham: Update (Second cadet)
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I expect this motion to be denied, it's normal to try to have a confession thrown out, but in this case David typed up his own confession for the police and it was not coerced from what I have seen. == Lawyers for an ex-Air Force academy cadet are hoping to get his murder confession thrown out on grounds it was acquired through illegal threats and promises. Motions filed by lawyers for David Graham say police told him he would face the death penalty if he did not own up to the 1995 slaying of Adrianne Jones and probation if he confessed. Attorneys for Graham have filed more than a dozen motions in the past week. The motions say officers discouraged Graham's request for an attorney, saying, ``If you get a lawyer involved, all bets are off and we'll seek the death penalty.'' Graham and Zamora, both 20, were accused of killing the 16-year-old Jones in December 1995 after Graham admitted a one-time sexual encounter with Jones. At her trial, Zamora told the court it was Graham's idea to murder Jones to prove the purity of his devotion to Zamora. Zamora received a life sentence for capital murder. Graham is suspected of killing Jones with two gunshots to the face after Zamora clubbed her over the head with a metal bar. In his Sept. 1996 confession, Graham wrote: ``When this precious relationship we had was damaged by my thoughtless actions, the only thing that could satisfy her womanly vengeance was the life of the one that had, for an instance (sic), taken her place.'' -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI News from all over
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LEAD STORIES * Social Security Administration investigators revealed in January that they had uncovered massive fraud involving members of a single extended Georgia family. 300 relatives over four generations were on the rolls, including 181 collecting from the Supplemental Security Income program for people unable to work because of disability, with a large number claiming some form of mental impairment, many through the recommendations of a single local doctor. So far, 90 of the original claims have been found to be fraudulent, but in the course of the investigation, more relatives turned up, running the number under suspicion up to around 500. * Slam-Dunkers at Risk: Peter Martin Vella, 18, filed a lawsuit against the city of Milford, Conn., in December, claiming that he ripped his nose open during a city playground basketball game. He said his nostril caught on a protruding hook (on which the net hangs) on the basket rim. And a 20-year-old man was killed in Melbourne, Australia, in January when the brick wall of a garage collapsed; the wall had a basketball backboard attached, and the man had held onto the rim after a slam-dunk, bringing the backboard and the wall down on top of him. * In January, the executor of the estate of the late Larry Lee Hillblom agreed to pay out at least $90 million each to four Pacific Islands teenagers whose DNA showed Hillblom was their father. Hillblom, who founded the DHL international courier firm and died in a 1995 plane crash, was described by one lawyer in the case as a pedophile who obsessively pursued teenage virgin bargirls in the Philippines and the Micronesian islands. At least one of the children will see quite an income bump this year, from the $125 a month he and his grandmother now earn in Palau. THE WEIRDO-AMERICAN COMMUNITY * The Washington Post reported in November on the unusual cat obsession of Kristin Kierig in Fairfax County, Va., unusual because the 114 cats that live with her are well-fed, and her townhouse is clean and orderly. More typical stories were of foul- smelling houses in Oshawa, Ontario, in August (120 cats), Edmonton, Alberta, in September (59 cats), and Piedmont, Calif., in October (150 cats, most of them diseased, plus another 250 dead cats in the freezer). Said Piedmont police Capt. Fred Gouveia, "One litter box and 150 cats. You have a problem." * In October, the Kentucky Department of Public Advocacy, which provides defense attorneys on capital punishment cases, briefly suspended lawyer Timothy T. Riddell and a colleague for an inept last-minute appeal in June to spare the life of convicted killer Harold McQueen Jr. Riddell had been lightly punished for another indiscretion the year before, having acknowledged in a child- custody case that he several times had recorded his own solo sexual activity over state-owned videotapes that contain official- record sessions of capital punishment trials. According to newspaper reports, the tapes show Riddell dressed in women's underwear and engaging in, among other things, various activities with his own urine. * Latest Indoor Landfill: In November, a 27-year-old woman in Swansea, Mass., was so distraught when she took a peek at the inside of her stepmother's home that she called 911. In most rooms, garbage was piled to the ceiling, and some rooms couldn't be entered because of trash blocking the doors. Apparently, the stepmother and her two sons lived in the house uneventfully, although the boys told police that they didn't like it that the house had been so dirty for a couple of years now. The stepmother was said to have become distraught when some relatives died. * Speaking to an audience at the Folger Shakespeare Library in Washington, D. C., in October, novelist Kathryn Harrison (who previously had written about her four-year affair with her father) read a letter she had written to her dead grandmother, in which she confessed to sticking her finger into the woman's cremated ashes and licking it off, then doing the same thing with her whole hand. According to the New York Post, "The crowd responded with polite applause." * In October, librarians at several Ohio colleges reported that hundreds of their books had been vandalized by someone's clipping photographs from them, all of young boys. Targets included children's books, fine arts books, and health and medical books, and pictures of Anglo, Middle Eastern, and Asian boys were taken. The vandal or vandals are still at large. * The Weirdo-German Community: In a November letter to the New England Journal of Medicine, three physicians describe the case of a German female hospital-lab technician, age 45, who was treated for 13 episodes of malaria during 1994-1996. Because of the frequency and the fact that the underlying parasite genotypes were different in several of the attacks, the physicians quizzed the patient, who immediately broke down and admitted she had been
LI US settles with Whitehurst
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of you may remember him from the OJ trials. The U.S. government said Wednesday it would pay whistleblower Frederic Whitehurst $300,000 in exchange for his dropping his lawsuits against the Justice Department under the Privacy Act. Whitehurst's attorney Stephen Kohn told Reuters the Justice Department would also provide Whitehurst, who alerted the public about shoddy work at the FBI crime lab, with some 200,000 pages of documents on 5,000 state and federal criminal cases handled by the lab. The FBI reached a separate settlement with Whitehurst in February that included payment of $1.16 million to cover the income he would have earned if he had kept working at the lab. In a statement about that settlement, the FBI acknowledged the significant role Whitehurst played in identifying problems at the crime lab, actions that led to ``vast improvements in its policies and procedures.'' Wednesday's settlement, which included attorneys' fees and damages, represented the highest amount ever awarded under the 1975 Privacy Act, a law that bars disclosure of confidential information without a person's consent, Kohn said. Under the settlement, the government did not admit liability on any of Whitehurst's claims. But Kohn said the government's agreement to settle the case showed that ``they knew they were wrong. They were desperate to stop Whitehurst and resorted to the circulation of either confidential personnel information or false information, and now they're paying for it,'' he said. Whitehurst had sued the government for allegedly releasing confidential data from his personnel records, and false information, in its attempt to discredit him after he started calling attention to wrongdoing and negligence at the lab. Whitehurst had complained about the alteration of reports, false testimony, inadequate attention to proper scientific procedures and other other problems at the lab. His charges led Justice Department Inspector General Michael Bromwich to criticize the lab in a 500-page study released last April. Bromwich said shoddy work at the lab resulted in flawed testimony presented at the World Trade Center bombing trials in New York and the Oklahoma City bombing cases in Denver. Under Wednesday's settlement, the government agreed to post on the Internet Whitehurst's response to that report, which examined some 20 cases handled by the crime lab, and to flag Whitehurst's response in printed versions of the report. ``There is no doubt this has major national impact on the entire criminal justice system,'' Kohn said, noting the expedited release of new documents could lead to convictions being overturned in some cases. ``The nation's premier crime lab had systemic problems and now the government is acknowledging those problems and turning over the records,'' Kohn said. ``They're setting up a procedure so there can be final accountability.'' The government will turn over 15,000 documents a month to the Forensic Justice Project that Whitehurst will head at the National Whistleblower Center in Washington. Kohn, who heads the National Whistleblower Center, said the group would review the records and inform the Justice Department if problems were found in the way the cases were handled by the lab. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Williams case finally goes to trial
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the case we followed when it broke, it has finally gone to trial. -- A family member testifying at the murder trial of Jacqueline Williams says the 31-year-old Schaumburg, Ill., woman called family members to boast she had just given birth, hours after Debra Evans was killed and Evans' unborn son was cut from her womb. Williams and two men are accused of killing Evans and two of her children in 1995 because Williams wanted Evans' unborn child. Prosecutors contend Williams pretended for months to be pregnant to hide the scheme to kill Evans and steal Evans' unborn child. They allege Williams, unable to become pregnant, planned the attack because she desperately wanted a light-skinned baby for boyfriend, with whom she could not conceive. Williams and Caffey are black. Evans was white, but the baby's father, Lavern Ward, is black. Caffey and Ward also face murder charges. They will be tried separately. Williams's sister Tina Martin was one of two prosecution witnesses to testify Thursday that Williams had lied about being pregnant. Martin testified that Williams, a mother of three, told her in April 1995 that she was pregnant but kept changing the due date from August to October and then November. Finally, on Nov. 17., Martin received a call from Williams saying she had just had her baby. Evans was found dead in her Addison, Ill., apartment early that morning. She had been shot in the head and a had large incision in abdomen. Evans' 10-year-old daughter, Samantha, was stabbed seven times in the neck. Seven-year-old Joshua was taken from the apartment by the attackers and stabbed to death hours later, authorities allege, because he talked about the crime and identified the attackers to another person. In opening statements Wednesday, defense lawyers blamed the killings on Ward and Caffey. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Update: Teen killers
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The maximum sentences have been handed down in the case of six Kentucky teen-agers who admit they killed three members of a Tennessee family just to steal their van. In proceedings that took more than an hour, Judge James Beckner addressed each defendant seperately. Killed were Vidar and Delphina Lillelid and their six-year-old daughter Tabitha. He sentenced each to serve life in prison without the possibility of parole. In addition, he sentenced each to an additional 25 year sentence for the attempted murder of the couple's two year old son, who surived the massacre. The six agreed to plead guilty in return for a promise they would not be sentenced to death. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Jonbenet: Public pressure on
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An announcement by Boulder police that they want a grand jury investigation in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case shows how important public perception of this highly publicized case has become. On Thursday, Boulder, Colo. police formally asked District Attorney Alex Hunter to convene a grand jury, saying it was needed to assemble more evidence. That the request would be made public was unusual. ``It was designed to put increased public pressure on Alex Hunter,'' Denver trial attorney and legal analyst Scott Robinson said. `If this was done behind closed doors it would be just another step in the procedure,'' Robinson added. Instead it was done publicly, putting the 14 month-old murder case back in the headlines. It is no secret that the police and prosecutors have not seen eye to eye on this case since the body of the beauty pageant winner was found in her Boulder home on Dec. 26, 1996. She was strangled and suffered a terrible gash on her head. The murder of the pretty, blue-eyed blond who seemed headed for a charmed life has captured worldwide attention. ``It shows you that the parties in this case are as interested in public relations as they are in anything else in this case,'' said Craig Silverman, a defense attorney and a former prosecutor in Denver. A decision on whether to take the case before a grand jury would be made by the district attorney. Interestingly enough only a few days before the police announcement, Hunter said he was looking more seriously at the prospect of convening a grand jury. A grand jury can compel witnesses to appear, although they cannot be forced to testify. In a grand jury proceeding, which is secret, participants can vote to have someone put on trial. The big question is whether the child's wealthy parents John and Patricia Ramsey and her 11-year-old brother Burke would appear at the grand jury. Although no arrests have been made and no suspects named police have said the parents remain under an ``umbrella of suspicion.'' The Ramseys who now live in the Atlanta area have strongly denied any connection to their daughter's murder and have criticized police for not solving the case. But the Ramseys have always spoken affectionately about the people of Boulder whom they say have supported them during their terrible suffering. Trying to avoid an appearance before a grand jury of Boulder citizens would look strange, Silverman said. ''The Ramseys are in a tough spot.'' Attorneys for the Ramseys did not return phone Another interesting angle is that in child abuse cases in Colorado the spousal privilege claim does not exist. The privilege allows people not to have to testify against a husband or wife in a criminal case. Both Silverman and Robinson said the Ramseys attorneys would surely tell their clients not to testify and instead invoke their fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Mny people, including innocent ones, invoke the fifth amendment, the attorneys noted. However, such a prospect would put the Ramseys in a terrible light, given that the grand jury would be trying to determine who should go on trial for the murder of the couple's daughter. But even if an indictment were handed down it would not be a certainty that a trial would be held, despite the public outrage that would follow. ``The nightmare scenario for Alex Hunter Hunter would be if a grand jury handed down an indictment and the evidence was somewhere between probable cause and proof beyond a reasonable doubt,'' Silverman said. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Au Pair: Update
Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prosecutors in the Louise Woodward case filed final court briefs Thursday, arguing for the reinstatement of a murder verdict for the British au pair found guilty in the death of a baby. In a separate action, the police chief of Marblehead, Mass. rejected Woodward's request to help at the seaside town's animal shelter. Woodward, who has been staying at her lawyer's home in the posh community, had volunteered to work at the shelter. But shelter volunteers require the approval of the local police chief. He rejected her bid saying that ``such approval would not be in the best interests of the Marblehead Police Department.'' The prosecutors' filing followed a decision by Massachusetts' highest court to grant a rarely allowed motion to let lawyers in the case file what are known as ``post-argument'' briefs. The court is expected to hand down its decision in the next two to four months. The Supreme Judicial Court's decision to allow such arguments was the latest in a series of unusual events that have been a feature of this case, which has gained worldwide attention. A jury in October convicted Woodward, 20, of Elton, England, of second-degree murder in the death of 8-month old Matthew Eappen. The baby died of severe head injuries in February 1997. But trial Judge Hiller Zobel invoked a rarely used rule to set aside the jury's verdict. He found Woodward guilty of manslaughter and sentenced her to time served -- 279 days. Prosecutors argued before the Supreme Judicial Court Monday that Zobel abused his authority under the rule that gives him wide discretion. They are seeking to have the jury's verdict reinstated and to return Woodward to prison.The au pair's lawyers, in their post-argument papers, submitted material supporting previous arguments that medical evidence provided incontrovertible proof that baby Matthew's fatal injuries could not have been inflicted when the prosecution said they were. Massachusetts court officials said the seven justices were thinking about issuing their decision over the Internet. Judge Zobel tried to make his controversial decision only on the Internet, but a power failure short-circuited what would have been a legal first. ``The Supreme Court is just thinking about it,'' a spokeswoman for the high bench said. ``No decision has been made on that yet.'' -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Nanny trial revisited ?
Leonard Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dr.LDMF The lesser included charge in the nanny case came about cause the Judge threw out the jury's verdict. I think the attorney's for the nanny simply expected the jurors to think and act like lawyers. It's possible the attorneys were thinking far enough ahead and felt the judge would not allow a 2nd degree murder conviction stand if their thinking about the jury was wrong. We'll never know what was really going on in their minds. Len At 01:26 AM 3/15/1998 -0800, you wrote: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue and group - there certainly does seem to be in common the issue whether a defendant is entitled to a jury charge on lesser-included charges.This way the sentence would have to be less. As I recall - check me out - the defense in the Nanny trial did not want this because they wanted absolute innocence or absolute guilt, using the strategy that absolute guilt woudln't happen. But if this is right, as I say, check me out -- then how did the lesser-included count come about in the Nanny trial; my memory is not recent on this, appreciate if you or group could post on this; do you think there's any generalization possible on these things, and can the absolute black/white defense ever work, or should attorneys argue the gray? C U soon, :) LDMF. Sue Hartigan wrote:--- Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No 96-1693 Court below: United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit At issue in this death-penalty case is whether a person convicted of felony murder had a due process right to have jury instructions on lesser-included charges (second-degree murder or manslaughter) when, under Nebraska law, no lesser-included offenses for felony murder exist. On March 29, 1980 Randolph Reeves raped and stabbed two women to death in a Quaker meetinghouse in Lincoln, NE. A jury found him guilty of felony murder and a three judge panel sentenced him to death. The jury was told that the penalty for felony murder could be life imprisonmente or death. The court below held that under Beck v. Alabama (447 US 625 (1980)), the jury had to be instructed on lesser-included offenses if the evidence could warrant a conviction for those offenses. The State maintains that felony murder has never included lesser offenses in NE and since the three judge panel had discretion in sentencing, the Beck rule doesn't apply. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Windows 98 the rundown.
Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Joan Moyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Steve, I use Dos for the tax program. Does that limit my choices? So far my Gateway 486, 16 megs ram has handled everything. I don't play many games. Joan No the dos program will work under NT it just wouldn't run at full speed and have access to your sound card. But then again a dos accounts program will but little pressure on a NT machine. As for a 486 with 16mb that's not really a minimum specification for a NT machine. You don't play games so thats fine, you'll need to upgrade your machine for either NT or 98 so really the balls in your court so to speak. I'd personally go for a partial move to NT and have it duel boot with Dos6.22. One advantage I have found with NT is that problems get ironed out of the system much more quickly than 95 the reason being that NT's Microsofts business future and they have to push it hard and make it work. So far Win95 has had a couple of minor service packs, where as WinNT4 has had three and the last one Service pack 3 totaled about 50mb, of fixes and tune-ups. Now thats what I call support Steve Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Nanny trial revisited ?/Len
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Len - agreed; as to expecting the jurors to think like lawyers, it does seem like a neat piece of logic doesn't it (contrasting it to an intuitive approach). If A then B... But it didn't work. It would be interesting to read what the judge said about setting aside their decision; one of the types of info I wish I could find (jury charges would be interesting too but the broadcasts usually go into commercials generally here, where we could get a glimpse of the strategies, the planning and thinking processesD. On another note, the case Sue posted here seems to contrast in that it Defense wants to obtain lesser included charges, to which the hightest court of Nebraska agreed, but the Supremes say the 'Beck' rule for lesser-includeds didn't hold for that state; I wonder what was argued in the trial court. Correct me if I have that wrong... :) LDMF. Leonard Booth wrote:--- Leonard Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dr.LDMF The lesser included charge in the nanny case came about cause the Judge threw out the jury's verdict. I think the attorney's for the nanny simply expected the jurors to think and act like lawyers. It's possible the attorneys were thinking far enough ahead and felt the judge would not allow a 2nd degree murder conviction stand if their thinking about the jury was wrong. We'll never know what was really going on in their minds. Len At 01:26 AM 3/15/1998 -0800, you wrote: "Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue and group - there certainly does seem to be in common the issue whether a defendant is entitled to a jury charge on lesser-included charges.This way the sentence would have to be less. As I recall - check me out - the defense in the Nanny trial did not want this because they wanted absolute innocence or absolute guilt, using the strategy that absolute guilt woudln't happen. But if this is right, as I say, check me out -- then how did the lesser-included count come about in the Nanny trial; my memory is not recent on this, appreciate if you or group could post on this; do you think there's any generalization possible on these things, and can the absolute black/white defense ever work, or should attorneys argue the gray? C U soon, :) LDMF. Sue Hartigan wrote:--- Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No 96-1693 Court below: United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit At issue in this death-penalty case is whether a person convicted of felony murder had a due process right to have jury instructions on lesser-included charges (second-degree murder or manslaughter) when, under Nebraska law, no lesser-included offenses for felony murder exist. On March 29, 1980 Randolph Reeves raped and stabbed two women to death in a Quaker meetinghouse in Lincoln, NE. A jury found him guilty of felony murder and a three judge panel sentenced him to death. The jury was told that the penalty for felony murder could be life imprisonmente or death. The court below held that under Beck v. Alabama (447 US 625 (1980)), the jury had to be instructed on lesser-included offenses if the evidence could warrant a conviction for those offenses. The State maintains that felony murder has never included lesser offenses in NE and since the three judge panel had discretion in sentencing, the Beck rule doesn't apply. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Verdicts Decisions/Kathy
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :) Kathy, what a great offer, yes please do send the bookmarks! Meanwhile I am going off to try the ones you have sent in your post; thanks a lot! LDMF. ---Kathy E wrote:- Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HI Linda and Sue :) Yes there is an easy way :) Well the way I use :) First if it's a trial on CTV they post the decision, if it's a trial in TX I go to the AG page, they list all the verdicts there. Each state has a page where you can look up a case to find out the status and such. Here are a couple of bookmarks you might find handy: http://www.oag.state.tx.us/ http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/NACJD/home.html http://www.findlaw.com/casecode/ http://legalnews.findlaw.com/ http://www.ljextra.com/litigation/ http://www.oag.state.ny.us/ http://www.aclu.org/court/summ-95.html http://www.uscourts.gov/ Matterfact it would probably be a lot easier if I sent you my bookmarks, I have a lot of listings under Justice and crime for looking up cases, let me know if you would like me to send them to you :) Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dr. L: To be honest I don't know. Kathy would probably be able to give a better way of doing it. I just scan everything until I find what I want. Sue The Supreme Court site is easiest because everything is labeled. Hi Sue: I have a question which regards a distinction between Decisions (Opinions, Judgments, Slip Opinions, Memoranda of Law etc.) and trial verdicts. Is there a general clue as to how to look for Trial verdicts, where its all happening in the trial court? :) LDMF. -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Verdicts Decisions/Kathy
Robert Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi kathy thanks thoes are way cool.hope you dont mind im cking them out also.thanks again.bob,wa ---Kathy E wrote:- Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HI Linda and Sue :) Yes there is an easy way :) Well the way I use :) First if it's a trial on CTV they post the decision, if it's a trial in TX I go to the AG I dont suffer from stress.I'M a carrier.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: Why was this brought up in the Paula Jones thing, he wasn't accused of doing any of this with her. Just asking her to do it. :) But she did change her story to say that he did put his hand "up her culotte's" didn't he. I looked up the defination in both my regular dictionary, and in my medical one, and couldn't even find one. So this must be a legal defination. Sue ``For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes: -- contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person; -- contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or -- contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body. -- Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing.'' Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue - there is one possible explanation (agreeing with you that these definitions seem one-sided): ... The other person is a statue. :) LDMF ---Sue Hartigan wrote:--- Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: Why was this brought up in the Paula Jones thing, he wasn't accused of doing any of this with her. Just asking her to do it. :) But she did change her story to say that he did put his hand "up her culotte's" didn't he. I looked up the defination in both my regular dictionary, and in my medical one, and couldn't even find one. So this must be a legal defination. Sue ``For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes: -- contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person; -- contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or -- contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body. -- Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing.'' Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: :) Hi Sue - I guess as Kathy implied (interpreting here) it is a "Daffy-nition," and Monica is a statue, which is easy to believe now that Santa Claus has his elves working on a Monica Doll, or is that the M_T_a_ company? :) LDMF. -Sue Hartigan wrote:-- Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dr. L.: Oh, Thank you. What is the difference between a law and a statute. So this would be a law, not a defination? Sue Hi Sue - there is one possible explanation (agreeing with you that these definitions seem one-sided): ... The other person is a statue. :) LDMF Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dr. L.: LMAO I think you have summed up the whole thing. And so well. BG I wonder if they are going to make a "Bill" doll to go with the "Monica" doll like Ken and Barbi. :) They have a ice skating Barbi now, and IMO both Monica and Bill are both skating on thin ice. BG Sue :) Hi Sue - I guess as Kathy implied (interpreting here) it is a "Daffy-nition," and Monica is a statue, which is easy to believe now that Santa Claus has his elves working on a Monica Doll, or is that the M_T_a_ company? :) LDMF. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Report: Windows 98 Will Be Released
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: You are so very right about time flying. Enjoy every minute you can with those kids, even the bad times. In a few years you will look back and really miss them. I keep telling Bobby and Yoko to enjoy Steven's babyhood, even if it does mean getting up three/four times a night. It doesn't last long, and when it is gone, it can never be brought back. Bobby said that he kinda wishes sometimes that babies were like computers, you could turn them off when you got tired, and then turn them back on when you wanted to play with them. Even though he is going to be 34 tomorrow, I don't think he realized what parenthood was really like. :) I am positive I won't be writing any HTML, primarily because I don't even know what it is. I know it is a thing on the puter that can't be sent. :) You are right though I am learning, very, very slowly, and only after you explain it to me over and over for a year, but I do get it eventually. It is really great to know someone who knows everything, and is so very patient about teaching me. BG Sue LOL True that thought entered my mind also, wondering how many HELP messages I would get LOL But your learning :) :) And that is what counts :) :) I guess writing up some HTML is out of the question for now Huh? LOL Thinking of that I have to change my home page :) Yesterday was Ashley's b-day she turned eight, amazing how fast time flies by... Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: You know we would. :) I can program my VCR though. BBG Only took me three years to learn that. Then it was a must that I learn it because of the Simpson trial, otherwise I probably still wouldn't know how to do it. It is amazing what you can learn when you have an incentive like that. :) Sue Hey Jackie :) Your not Alone a LOT of people can't program their VCR's, Scott has never been able to do it, I always have to do it for him LOL yet I couldn't hook up a VCR to a tv if my life depended on it. So far you and Sue have asked for help in what I consider pretty basic area's and I don't mind helping, I figure if the situation was reversed others would do the same :) Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy: I watched this yesterday on CSpan. This judge is really cool. Nothing like some of the stuffed shirts that I remember used to be on there. I know nothing about him except what I saw yesterday, but he is funny, and talks in plain language, and it really was very interesting to listen to. In fact when the whole thing was over, I agreed with his side of the issue. He made valid points, IMO. Sue So when is Justice Souter going to tell us how he really feels (VBG) Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I'm sorry I should have said. :) Loma Linda is a big University here in Riverside. It also boasts Loma Linda Hospital which specializes in infants. In fact it is the place where most of the physicians around the country send their cardiac infants who need transplants. A lot of the medical "news" that you see lately about infant transplants, conjoined twins being separated, etc are a result of Loma Linda's excellent pediatric staff. I don't know if you remember a few years back or not the case of the baby who could not get a transplant and as a last resort they transplanted a baboon heart into the infant. Anyway that was a Loma Linda patient. They are now working on a conjoined pair of twins who share the same legs, liver, etc, and trying to find out if there is any way they can be separated. Catherine worked for them for a while when she lived out here. :) The reason they were spraying Malathion was because of the fruit fly. This thing could demolish our agriculture. They said the spray was harmless, but I still wonder when they take all those precautions. I thought that they had proof readers at the newspapers. But it has been so long since I have been around one that I am sure things have changed dramatically. We don't even have paperboys anymore. That is how much it has changed here in So Ca. Sue Hi Sue At the risk of exposing my lack of knowledge G, who is Loma Linda? I assume a medical researcher?? Don't they have people who are hired to read newspapers to connect stories that seem unrelated? I thought I heard that at one time. That spray stuff you mention may be one factor that could be considered in any research, especially when you are told to bring pets in, and cover inanimate objects. Of course, then we would have to determine what was more important--possible effects on the unborn vrs our comfort in sitting outdoors with no insects. (Just being cynical, here). jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: Nature vs Nurture
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi jackie: You got it. BG The idea is that someday they will be able to transplant the head onto a body where the person has died of some kind of brain damage, but the body is in perfect health. The bodies are frozen with the idea that whatever killed the person will sometime in the future be able to be fixed or cured and then they will fix it and bring the person back to life. What is weird about this whole thing is that some lady's family swore up and down that she was actually alive when she was taken in there to have her head frozen. There was a big investigation into it, and I think that they did find out that she was alive at the time, but they couldn't find her head so they couldn't prove anything. I guess this is another case of psychic ability, on your part. :) The father is going to have to pay the child support, but it really brings medicine, law, and ethics to the forefront, IMO. Sue Hi Sue Would love to visit but I think I'll pass on the frozen bodies, especially the heads. What in the world are they going to do with the heads?? Fasten them on an artificial body? Or on a human body that the head has been damaged? Oooh. The ironic thing is that we use an exercise in which the students have to discuss the implications of a couple doing that very thing and then getting a divorce before the baby is conceived and fight for custody. In the meantime the child is being raised by a foster mother. Now, who should get custody--one of the donors, the surrogate mother, the foster mother, or one of the ex-spouses? This was a ficticious exercise--sounds like it really isn't so imaginary. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Potato gun Dave Barry
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Potato Guns (NOTE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENTThe activities described in this columnare dangerous and stupid and possibly illegal and should be performed only by trained humor professionals who are good at sneaking around.This newspaper assumes no responsibility or liability for any injuries, deaths, maimings, cripplings, eyes getting poked out, pregnancies, fires, riots, ointments or suppositories that may or may not occur as a result of some moron attempting any of these activities or any other actions, forfeitures, debentures, indemnifications, and such other big scary legal words as we may or may not think up at some future point in time.Thank you.) * * * * * For more than a year now, alert readers have been sending me alarming newspaper articles about the "potato gun," a bazooka-sized device that can shoot a potato several hundred yards at speeds up to 1,000 feet per second. To give you an idea how fast that is, an ordinary potato, on its own, will rarely travel more than four feet per day, even during the height of mating season. Potato guns -- which have already been banned in some municipalities -- can be easily made from plastic pipe available in any plumbing supply store; the explosive force comes from ordinary hair spray, which is ignited by an electrical spark.Needless to say I will not provide any specific details concerning how to construct these devices, because a great many young people read this column, and they already know how to construct these devices. Anyway, I recently got a fax from an individual whom I will identify here only as "Buzz Fleischman, 810 Pinecrest Drive, Miami Springs, Fla. 33166, telephone (305) 885-4817."Buzz, who makes his living performing humor at corporate meetings and other functions, and who by the way current- ly has some openings on his calendar, informed me that he had constructed a potato gun, and was willing to demonstrate it for the purpose of helping me, as a responsible adult, better understand just how alarming this menace is. We decided to fire the potato gun from the roof of my place of employ- ment, The Miami Herald (motto "We Are Still Keeping An Eye On Gary Hart"). Let me stress that The Miami Herald is a responsible institution that does NOT ordinarily allow people to shoot potatoes from its premises.We were able to do it only because we met the very strict requirement of not asking for permission.It was a Covert Operation, during which we addressed each other by code names except when we forgot.(For ease of memorization, we both used the code name "Eagle One.") Once we got up on the Herald roof, we decided to fire the potato gun toward Biscayne Bay.Our other option was to fire it toward the city of Miami, which would have been a serious mistake because hundreds of local residents would undoubtedly have fired back (and not with potatoes, either). To load the gun, Buzz stuffed a potato into the barrel and shoved it down with a pole, then sprayed some Aqua Net Super Hold hair spray into the detonation chamber.He then aimed the gun at the bay and pressed the igni- tion device, and FWOOOM, the potato came blasting out of the gun and went way way WY out over the water and landed approximately in Portugal. As responsible adults, Buzz an I were very alarmed by this demonstra- tion.We shot off a bunch more potatoes to see if we would continue to be alarmed, and we were.We also got excellent results with an onion. But as any reputable scientist will tell you, the "acid test" of the alarmingness of this type of device is what happens when you shoot a Barbie doll out of it.We used the "Gymnast Barbie" model, which comes with a little gold medal.First we loaded a potato into the gun, then we put Gymnast Barbie into the end of the barrel, with just her head and hairstyle sticking out.Then we pointed the potato gun straight up and FWOOOM up went Barbie, high in the sky, smiling perkily, waving her arms and legs gymnastically around inside a cloud of potato atoms before finally landing in a really unladylike pose. Needless to say these results were extremely alarming.Because if the potato gun can be used to shoot Barbie dolls, then it is only a matter of time before some fiendish criminal mind thinks of using one to shoot a Kellogg's strawberry Pop-Tart.So we tried that, too.It was pretty dis- appointing.The gun made a noise like "phoo" and spat Pop-Tart fragments a short, nonalarming distance. Nevertheless as concerned adults we all need to become wrought up about this menace.People should form organizations and write angry letters. Congress should hold hearings.The Clinton administration should announce a definite policy and then change it.Maybe the Warren Commission should get back together.Also the Defense Department should probably go on Red Alert, because any day now Portugal is going to start shooting back. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the
LI Saturdays Jokes
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HOW COLD IS IT? Very Funny! An annotated thermometer(degrees Fahrenheit) +50 * New York tenants turn on the heat * Minnesotans plant gardens +40 * Californians shiver uncontrollably * Minnesotans sunbathe +35 * Italian cars don't start +32 * Distilled water freezes +30 * You can see your breath * You plan a vacation in Florida * Politicians begin to worry about the homeless * Minnesotans eat ice cream +25 * Boston water freezes * Californians weep pitiably * Cat insists on sleeping on your bed with you +20 * Cleveland water freezes * San Franciscans start thinking favorably of LA * Green Bay Packers fans put on T-shirtsHell YEAH!!! +15 * You plan a vacation in CANCUN! * Minnesotans go swimming +10 * Politicians begin to talk about the homeless * Too cold to snow * You need jumper cables to get the car going 0 * New York landlords turn on the heat -5 * You can hear your breath * You plan a vacation in Hawaii -10 * American cars don't start * Too cold to skate -15 * You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo * Miamians cease to exist * Minnesotans lick flagpoles -20 * Cat insists on sleeping in your pajamas with you * Politicians actually do something about the homeless * People in LaCrosse think about taking down screens -25 * Too cold to kiss * You need jumper cables to get the driver going * Japanese cars don't start * Minnesota Twins head for spring training -30 * You plan a two-week hot bath * Bock beer production begins * Minnesotans shovel snow off roof -38 * Mercury freezes * Too cold to think * Minnesotans button top button -40 * Californians disappear * Car insists on sleeping in your bed with you * Minnesotans put on sweaters -50 * Congressional hot air freezes * Alaskans close the bathroom window * Green Bay Packers practice indoors -60 * Walruses abandon Aleutians * Minnesotans put gloves away, take out mittens * Boy Scouts in Eau Claire start -70 * Minneapolis residents replace diving boards with hockey nets * Ridgeway snowmobilers organize trans-river race to Buffalo, WI -80 * Polar bears abandon Baffin Island * Girl Scouts in Eau Claire start Klondike Derby -90 * Lawyers chase ambulances for no more than 10 miles * Wisconsinites migrate to Minnesota thinking it MUST be warmer -100 * Santa Claus abandons North Pole * Minnesotans pull down earflaps -173 * Ethyl alcohol freezes -445 * Superconductivity -452 * Helium becomes a liquid -454 * Hell freezes over -456 * Illinois drivers drop below 85 MPH on I-90 -458 * Incumbent politician renounces campaign contribution -460 (Absolute Zero) * All atomic motion ceases * Minnesotans allow as to how it's getting a mite nippy A new soldier was on sentry duty at the main gate. His orders were clear. No car was to enter unless it had a special sticker on the windshield. A big Army car came up with a general seated in the back. The sentry said, Halt, who goes there? The chauffeur, a corporal, says, General Wheeler. Im sorry, I cant let you through. Youve got to have a sticker on the windshield. The general said, Drive on! The sentry said, Hold it! You really cant come through. I have orders to shoot if you try driving in without a sticker. The general repeated, Im telling you, son, drive on! The sentry walked up to the rear window and said, General, Im new at this. Do I shoot you or the the driver? -- A rabbi, a priest and a pastor were all in a boat together fishing. The pastor said to the others, "I think I am going to go over to that shore and sit down." So, he gets out of the boat, walks across the water and sits down on the shore. Then, the priest says to the rabbi, "I think I going to go over there to join him." So, he does the same as the pastor and sits next to him on the shore. The rabbi thinks to himself, "Well, if they can do it, so can I!" So, he climbs out of the boat, but he falls in the water. The pastor says to the priest, "Do you think we should of told him where the rocks were?" - There was once a COBOL programmer in the mid to late 1990s. For the sake of this story, we'll call him Jack. After years of being taken for granted and treated as a technological dinosaur by all the UNIX programmers and Client/Server programmers and website developers, Jack was finally getting some respect. He'd become a private consultant specializing in Year 2000 conversions. He was working short-term assignments for prestige companies, traveling
Re: LI Report: Windows 98 Will Be Released
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I haven't seen that one yet. But now that I have heard about it, I'm sure that it will happen. :( I have no idea what Windows 95 can or can't do. Whenever the thing starts acting weird or something, and if I can still get mail out, a big KATHY HELP goes out, if I can't get mail out, then I have to wait around here forever for my son to get home and fix it. He usually pushes a couple of buttons and waa-laa, all well. Then he goes off muttering something about Mothers and the inability to comprehend the simple things of life. BG Then there are times when the server goes down. Now that is really frustrating. Last week the server got spamed and was down for days. I could get mail but couldn't send anything. Talk about frustrating. Sue Hi Sue Lately mine has been bringing up the boxes attached to my icons, when I haven't touched my icon. If anyone can run Windows95, I think they are computer geniuses. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Well I can program a VCR, only took me a few years to learn, and then it was because of dire need. LOL Sue Oh Sue A "true sister," one I never have had. If it says user friendly I can find out where it is not without even trying. I am not known as the "nemesis" to the computer services people at all the schools I have been at for nothing. Poor Kathy, she has two of us on the list. I even have to have the students run the VCR--I won't tell you of my experiences with that piece of modern equipment. I can get the VCR to do things it is not programmed to do, believe me!! You should see me with a Barco system that they use in auditoriums for multimedia. And the school may send me to a computer workshop for Microcase. Look out microcase. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Re: EMF/Jackie
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: It also gives you an insight into why kids turn to gangs. :) Did you know that the stats on suicide also run high in the hot, humid weather as well as during full moons? They really do. Don't know why but they do. I am anxious to hear what you think of that book. Sue Hi Sue That should be an interesting book. I know that sometimes they do look at specific crimes and note a seasonal trend. I have heard there is speculation that this is why the crime rates tend to be higher in the southern states, in addition to differences in culture, etc. I can hardly wait for the book now--you have peaked my interest. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi jackie: Your'e the psychic, you tell me. BEG I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. :) Sue Hi Sue How come we don't get paid for this? jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Friday The 13th: Evil Or Excuse? It doesn't hurt to be prepared:
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Oh, You are more than welcome. :) Yes just click on the address and it will take you right to them. I checked out everyone to make sure it worked. :) Sue Hi Sue You sent all those sites on superstition. There were a few that will be great for cultural differences and cultural beliefs. To make those links do I just highlight it and then go to insert or what?? jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Jim McDougal
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Hey you might just have hit on something there. BG Who did leak it finally do you know? I saw the Katherine Willey interview tonight on 60 Minutes. And she did come across as being very creditable. But then the Presidents lawyer talked for a few minutes, and his explanation sounded good too. The part about her being very upset and couldn't find her husband, etc. ) Her husband committed suicide while she was there talking to the President that day.) But she did sound very creditable... Linda Trapp..er I mean Tripp was there then too. That woman sure knows where to be and when to be there doesn't she. Sue Hi Sue Read the post earlier about how Tripp's lawyer said she was set-up. H. She just happened to have the goods in her purse. How much you want to bet that Starr wasn't aware of this when he gave her immunity. What I find interesting about this is if this is the case, and the w.h. was so guilty of obstructing justice and smearing their accusers then this should have been leaked to the media ages ago. Could that mean the w.h. were not engaged in those tactics, I wonder. I'll have to figure out what you should be the expert witness so we both can rake in the millions vbg jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HI Jackie: I think I might just buy one of those things and stick it on my youngest son. He has had three kids in less than 4 years. I told him I was going to take him to the vet, if he didn't learn how to use birth control. :) But this just might work better. At least there would be something in the way to help prevent conception. VBG Sue Sue They have a thing you can buy now so men can experience what it is like to be pregnant. It is a teaching aid. You strap it on and then inflate as you go along to simulate the progression of pregnancy. Every house should have one g jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: Schooling was LI Re: Disparity in Infant Mortality Rates
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: How far do you think you would have gotten if you had talked to either your parents or teacher this way. LOL I *know* how far I would have gotten. And it wouldn't have been pretty. I wonder what is going to happen the first time this father gets a call from the local P.D. telling him his little girl is in jail for something. She is going to have, already does IMO, no respect for authority at all. And it could cost her, her life. I certainly hope that the school rethinks this program, it is not good, IMO. I would be willing to bet that if this kid ran into something on her rollerblades, this father would be the first in line to sue the school for everything he could get, and then some. Sue Hi Sue They now have a new parenting class at a few schools. It is called "Parenting Without Control." I recently seen the results of that and boy, I was not impressed. The man who wrote the material for the course has a little 5th grader. The little girl told her teacher that she did not have to listen to what she said--first, she was not her parent and second, she was free to make her own choices. Then she told the secretary of the department (not this school) that she had no right to try to control her and tell her what to do--she was rollerblading down the halls of the college. She also told her dad the same thing when he asked her (not told her) if she would mind not rollerblading down the hall. jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Here is the definition of sex Mr. President
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, Group - can we top this? g I doubt it! -Sue Hartigan wrote:--- ... I wonder if they are going to make a "Bill" doll to go with the "Monica" doll like Ken and Barbi. :) They have a ice skating Barbi now, and IMO both Monica and Bill are both skating on thin ice. BG Sue ... :) Hi Sue - I guess as Kathy implied (interpreting here) it is a "Daffy-nition," and Monica is a statue, which is easy to believe now that Santa Claus has his elves working on a Monica Doll, or is that the M_T_a_ company? :) LDMF. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kathy It may be basic to you, but not to me--now, writing SPSS and other stats programs and finding ways to get the information I want is no problem (work, but usually a success), but otherwise I can usually find glitches in programs that the manufacturers didn't know existed G. Now I don't feel so bad about not knowing the VCR. My students sure get a bang out of it though. I usually just elect the "technician of the day." I usually also have a clock watcher of the day, and a speller of the day. If you can't get students involved in any other ways, this seems to work G jackief Kathy E wrote: Kathy E [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Jackie :) Your not Alone a LOT of people can't program their VCR's, Scott has never been able to do it, I always have to do it for him LOL yet I couldn't hook up a VCR to a tv if my life depended on it. So far you and Sue have asked for help in what I consider pretty basic area's and I don't mind helping, I figure if the situation was reversed others would do the same :) Jackie Fellows wrote: Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh Sue A "true sister," one I never have had. If it says user friendly I can find out where it is not without even trying. I am not known as the "nemesis" to the computer services people at all the schools I have been at for -- Kathy E "I can only please one person a day, today is NOT your day, and tomorrow isn't looking too good for you either" http://members.delphi.com/kathylaw/ Law Issues Mailing List http://pw1.netcom.com/~kathye/rodeo.html - Cowboy Histories http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2990/law.htm Crime photo's Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI Another Woman
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They just announced on CNBC that yet another woman has come forward with yet more allegations against Clinton. She is appearing before the grand jury tomorrow or Tuesday. When in the world did this man have time to do his governor and president jobs. And what in the world does this man have that attracts so many women. certainly not common sense if he is doing all this. I also wonder if Hillary has thought about STD's. Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Another Woman
"Dr.L.D.Misek-Falkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue - Betcha a marzipan bar (my favorite, I surf the web for them) that: his ratings will go up. :) LDMF. -Sue Hartigan wrote:--- Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They just announced on CNBC that yet another woman has come forward with yet more allegations against Clinton. She is appearing before the grand jury tomorrow or Tuesday. When in the world did this man have time to do his governor and president jobs. And what in the world does this man have that attracts so many women. certainly not common sense if he is doing all this. I also wonder if Hillary has thought about STD's. Sue Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
LI InterNight - Jerralyn Merritt (again)
"Alex Butler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following a contribution I made several months ago, I continue to watch MSNBC's InterNight and get ever increasingly annoyed with the performance of Jerralyn Merritt. For those who do not know of Ms Merritt, she is a defense attorney and was part of Tim McVeigh's legal team. She takes offense when ever anyone is accused of breaking the law. If she had her way, there would be no need for trials or prisons. Her statements are one-dimensional, usually bland and insubstantive. I don't now why the TV station pay for her appearances, when they could use a young actress and a script writer to churn out her nightly mantras. The main reason for me bringing this subject up was that over the past several weeks it has become very noticeable that John Gibson, the excellent host of InterNight cannot abide her attitude and has made that quite obvious. Does any other viewer agree with this? On a more pleasant note, it is great to see Marcia Clark again and hear her comments. As usual I find myself agreeing with most of what she says. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI The Nanny Case - A British Perspective
"Alex Butler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill In Britain, the appeals matter is just being reported as a normal news item Our SKY news channel is the only one that is giving it intensive coverage and that is only because following their presentation of the Simpson trial, they know that their viewers are interested in these real-life legal dramas. At the end of the Trial proper, you will have seen the scenes of elation from the Woodward "camp" in England. The TV pictures must have appeared unseemly to people in the USA, but I feel that they only represented the reaction of a group of people bonding together in a common cause (rightly or wrongly) and giving vent to their emotions. When I have heard them talk in detail about the case, they invariably mention the sadness of the baby's death. So their celebrations are not meant to diminish the tragedy of a baby's death. Alex Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: William J. Foristal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LI The Nanny Case - A British Perspective Date: 09 March 1998 17:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Alex, Nice to see you again! Thanks for the information. I guess the appeals hearing starts today. What is the current sentiment/opinion in England about the appeals? Bill On Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:05:09 - "Alex Butler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Alex Butler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the UK, our TV Channel 4 has shown a documentary on the Nanny Case. The documentary included an assessment of the medical evidence by British experts. If you are interested in the case, an abridged transcript, and other information can be obtained from:- www.channel4.com/news/dispatches/ Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
