Re: [Lazarus] lazcontrols filters

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 10.10.2015 18:47, Juha Manninen wrote:
Rekonq uses both QT and KDE libs. Not directly usable for LCL 
implementation but a nice idea anyway.


It was not exactly an idea to implement it in the LCL but more an 
argument that it is possible to do advanced stuff (custom painting, text 
area moving etc.) even on Linux and not only on Windows.


So that means that it is possible to custom paint an edit at least on 
Qt. It is another problem that we (me definitely) don't know how to do it.


Rekonq source is available on the internet 
https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository so 
somebody with Qt knowledge could check how they do it and if it is 
possible to use a similar approach in the LCL.


The fact that TextHint uses the "normal" Text property in TEdit sounds 
more a hack to me. Such custom painting could be safely used for 
TComboBox as well.


Safari is able to do the same on OSX, so I assume that custom painting 
is available on every widgetset.


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Re: [Lazarus] lazcontrols filters

[Bart]

On 10/11/15, Ondrej Pokorny  wrote:

> The fact that TextHint uses the "normal" Text property in TEdit sounds
> more a hack to me. Such custom painting could be safely used for
> TComboBox as well.

Yes it is.
We did it that way because not all widgetsets natively support such a
feature (or at least we were not aware of this).
And we were not willing to make TCustomEdit "custom painted".

TextHint is natively supported on Windows (and most likely on WinCE)
via a system API.
If (and only if) this can be achieved via all other widgetsets (QT,
GTK2, Carbon, Cocoa) the hack can be removed and the code can be moved
to the widgetset implementation.

So, does anybody know wether the other widgetsets offer this
functionalitly natively?

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[Lazarus] Suggestion about environmentoptions.xml

[FreeMan]

Hello,
Why all settings in environmentoptions.xml ? for example, New desktop 
settings added, its good think, But why all value in 
environmentoptions.xml ? My suggestion is different file for each 
setting grup. PackageEditor_* can be separate xml file. So user 
(like me) when any conflict, just remove that file, and IDE create 
default values. At this style, I mean each settings in separated file, 
can copy settings to different os or user(s)
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Re: [Lazarus] lazcontrols filters

[zeljko]

On 10/10/2015 06:38 PM, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:


This is exactly what I was thinking. The rekonq browser has the same. It
is even able to put a button in front of the text in the edit and start
the text after the edit + the hint text is centered. I admit that I
don't know if rekonq uses Qt or Gtk2.


That's because rekonq uses kdelibs which have their own implementation 
of QLineEdit.


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Re: [Lazarus] Built Lazarus on RPi2, warning on every project build

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

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wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:



Warning: "crtbegin.o" not found, this will probably cause a linking
failure
Warning: "crtend.o" not found, this will probably cause a linking
failure

Why does this happen? And what can be done about it?


I /think/ that somebody pointed out elsewhere that those were spurious, 
but I'd need to check.


If it causes issues then for Wheezy 2015 try adding

-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6

to your /etc/fpc.cfg, or for Jessie add

-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.9

Note there's no space in there. Remember that for configuration files 
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Re: [Lazarus] lazcontrols filters

[zeljko]

On 10/11/2015 08:38 AM, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:

On 10.10.2015 18:47, Juha Manninen wrote:

Rekonq uses both QT and KDE libs. Not directly usable for LCL
implementation but a nice idea anyway.


It was not exactly an idea to implement it in the LCL but more an
argument that it is possible to do advanced stuff (custom painting, text
area moving etc.) even on Linux and not only on Windows.

So that means that it is possible to custom paint an edit at least on
Qt. It is another problem that we (me definitely) don't know how to do it.


Yes, it's possible to achieve that goal with Qt. In event filter of 
TQtLineEdit add QPaintEvent, and:

1.Paint QLineEdit by Qt - use QObject_event(Widget, Event);
2.Now call SlotPaint() which creates TQtDeviceContext and passes it to 
LCL ... if TEdit have Canvas and OnPaint you can do whatever in that case.

3.Now set Result := True in QPaintEvent, so Qt won't paint it again.

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Re: [Lazarus] Built Lazarus on RPi2, warning on every project build

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:

On 10/10/2015 03:13 PM, Bo Berglund wrote:

I have successfully compiled and installed fpc and lazarus from trunk
sources retrieved by svn on a Raspberry Pi2 unit.
Versions are 3.1.1 and 1.5 respectively
I can run Lazarus in the RPi2 and simple programs that I have tested
work as expected.
But nevertheless on every single compile there are two warnings shown:

Warning: "crtbegin.o" not found, this will probably cause a linking
failure
Warning: "crtend.o" not found, this will probably cause a linking
failure

Why does this happen? And what can be done about it?


i cannot help with the problem but i wanted to point out that those two 
are "C Run Time" and not "CRT" items... many mistake those types of 
names as CRT related and go looking in that direction instead of in the 
"C" direction...


a possible help is that you have to tell the system where to find the C 
runtime developer's library code... i don't know how this is done but 
the topic has been spoken of numerous times in either the FPC or Lazarus 
lists... i'm sure that others will have the real info if they haven't 
answered you already...


I /think/ that somebody pointed out elsewhere that those were spurious, 
but I'd need to check.


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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus eats comment characters using Swedish keyboard

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Bo Berglund wrote:

A problem surfaced just a moment ago...
I was writing code in Lazarus ver 1.5 running on a Raspberry Pi2 with
Raspbian Jessie.
I wanted to comment out a number of lines so I hit the key combination
to produce the { } pair. But nothing was printed in the Lazarus
editor.
If I switched to the text editor in the GUI the keys produced the
wanted characters.

So something in Lazarus eats the key presses needed in Sweden to
produce the braces (RightAlt-7 and RightAlt-0).
Is there a configuration somewhere to stop this from happening so one
can enter comments in Lazarus?


Is it only those, or are any of the other keys that require  affected?

This sounds unfortunate since some things only with with { } comment 
markers rather than (* *).


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Re: [Lazarus] Literature about REST

[Koenraad Lelong]

Op 08-10-15 om 17:23 schreef Luiz Americo Pereira Camara:


 > Hi,
 >
 > I would like to know more about web-programming with REST. Can anyone
recommend books or web-sites to read about it ? I virtually know nothing
about it.

I read this book

http://shop.oreilly.com/product/mobile/9780596805838.do

Its a good one, with a few shortcomings:

It uses examples with XML
Has a focus in HATEOAS. Particularly i dont buy HATEOS stuff, so i read
only until the CRUD service chapter.

I have some free books/resources about it. I can send later

Luiz


Hi Luiz,

I would like those extra resources you mentioned.
Meanwhile I read some articles on the web, but I need more knowledge 
about html.


Thanks,

Koenraad.


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[Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[FreeMan]

Hello,
fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64

1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under 
Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE. 
Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually 
source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it.


2-
This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving.

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus eats comment characters using Swedish keyboard

[Martin Frb]

On 10/10/2015 23:33, Bo Berglund wrote:

I wanted to comment out a number of lines so I hit the key combination
to produce the { } pair. But nothing was printed in the Lazarus
editor.
If I switched to the text editor in the GUI the keys produced the
wanted characters.

So something in Lazarus eats the key presses needed in Sweden to
produce the braces (RightAlt-7 and RightAlt-0).
Is there a configuration somewhere to stop this from happening so one
can enter comments in Lazarus?

This sometimes happens, if the key combo matches a configured shortcut. 
You can check this in tools > options> editor > keyboard


Right Alt = AltGr ? that is usually seen as equal to ctrl-alt.

Though I am not aware of anything an ctrl-alt 7 or 0 by default. 
Bookmarks are on ctrl-0 to 9. Maybe test this, set bookmark 7 and see if 
your key combo jumps there.


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Re: [Lazarus] Codetools question

[Mattias Gaertner]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:12:15 +0200
Ondrej Pokorny  wrote:

> On 10.10.2015 13:00, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > This is definitely not so :-(
> > I compile lazarus with 2.6.4, but work with compiler set to 3.0 or 
> > even jvm.
> >
> > That is how I bumped into the problem to begin with... :-)
> 
> CodeTools know what compiler constants are defined in the target tool. 
> You have to check if FPC_HAS_CPSTRING is defined. This should be 
> possible but I don't know how to do it. You'll have to wait for Mattias' 
> answer.

if Scanner.Values.IsDefined('FPC_HAS_CPSTRING') then ...

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Péter Gábor]

It is movable in the fixes branch at r50025.
The main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is
resizeable by moving it...


2015-10-11 14:21 keltezéssel, FreeMan írta:
> Hello,
> fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64
> 
> 1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under
> Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE.
> Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually
> source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it.
> 
> 2-
> This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving.
> 
> 
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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus eats comment characters using Swedish keyboard

[Bo Berglund]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:40:50 +0100, Martin Frb 
wrote:

>On 10/10/2015 23:33, Bo Berglund wrote:
>> I wanted to comment out a number of lines so I hit the key combination
>> to produce the { } pair. But nothing was printed in the Lazarus
>> editor.
>> If I switched to the text editor in the GUI the keys produced the
>> wanted characters.
>>
>> So something in Lazarus eats the key presses needed in Sweden to
>> produce the braces (RightAlt-7 and RightAlt-0).
>> Is there a configuration somewhere to stop this from happening so one
>> can enter comments in Lazarus?
>>
>This sometimes happens, if the key combo matches a configured shortcut. 
>You can check this in tools > options> editor > keyboard
>
>Right Alt = AltGr ? that is usually seen as equal to ctrl-alt.
>
>Though I am not aware of anything an ctrl-alt 7 or 0 by default. 
>Bookmarks are on ctrl-0 to 9. Maybe test this, set bookmark 7 and see if 
>your key combo jumps there.

Yes, what I meant was the AltGr key to the right of the space key.

I have investigated further now and when I use the Pi directly
(monitor connected to Pi and keyboard/mouse too) then the {} keys do
work.
When I noticed the problem I was using TightVNC to remotely access the
GUI. So somehow VNC might be involved here.
OTOH, to safeguard against that I tried with the Raspbian text editor
in the VNC controlled GUI and there were no problems in that editor.
Only the Lazarus code editor shows this.

Another observation:
If I select a button on a form and go to the Caption property (n.b.
inside Lazarus) the { can be entered as a caption character!

I guess that there must be some key mapping in Lazarus that does this,
but I have not even looked at any customization of Lazarus yet...


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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 18:17, Péter Gábor wrote:

...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide
enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of
component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much.

Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor
docking does something wrong?
Actually, it's not a bug. There is an option that does it: 
Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main windows height.


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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[FreeMan]

On 11.10.2015 20:31, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:

On 11.10.2015 19:19, FreeMan wrote:
Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if 
/"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if 
/"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize.

Thank you/

Sorry. I don't understand you. Was your first suggestion
a) "do not show the splitter if it cannot move"

Yes

or
b) "make the splitter move, it does nothing"
?

>> suggestion: Can add max resize value for heigth.
I myself don't think something like this is needed. Ask Lazarus 
developers for their meaning and if they think it is a good 
enhancement, create a patch.


Ondrej/
/
I'm writing mail list 'cos All lazarus developers read here, for create 
patch, If I finish my project maybe I can, but I lost enthusiasm

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Re: [Lazarus] Codetools question

[Mattias Gaertner]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:00:28 +0200
Ondrej Pokorny  wrote:

> On 11.10.2015 18:58, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:
> > I added the procedure name to the list (see patch).
> Forgot the file...

Thanks. Applied.

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 18:52, FreeMan wrote:
I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any 
component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. 
of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one 
line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source 
line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main 
toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1


Yes, I do the same. The splitter can be hidden if 
"/Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main window 
height/" is enabled. If the option is disabled, the splitter has to be 
visible.


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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus eats comment characters using Swedish keyboard

[Martin Frb]

On 11/10/2015 17:33, Bo Berglund wrote:

I have investigated further now and when I use the Pi directly
(monitor connected to Pi and keyboard/mouse too) then the {} keys do
work.
When I noticed the problem I was using TightVNC to remotely access the
GUI. So somehow VNC might be involved here.



http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=17820

Never had time to work on it, and probably wont have anytime soon.

See note in bug. I dont know if same timestamp is allowed or if that is 
an issue in VNC. But in the LCL (for any custom control) it is 
interpreted as, this is the same keystroke, therefore it was already 
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Re: [Lazarus] Built Lazarus on RPi2, warning on every project build

[Bo Berglund]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:48:55 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd
 wrote:

>> I /think/ that somebody pointed out elsewhere that those were spurious, 
>> but I'd need to check.
>
>If it causes issues then for Wheezy 2015 try adding
>
>-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6
>
>to your /etc/fpc.cfg, or for Jessie add
>
>-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.9
>
>Note there's no space in there. Remember that for configuration files 
>like this you'll usually need to use a unix/Linux editor, since the 
>line-ending convention is different for DOS.


Where in the file do I add this line?
Or does it not matter?


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[Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

[Richard Mace]

Hi All,
I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help file?

It looks like you can have a contents, use anchors and obviously have
pictures.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Péter Gábor]

...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide
enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of
component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much.

Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor
docking does something wrong?

2015-10-11 18:01 keltezéssel, Péter Gábor írta:
> It is movable in the fixes branch at r50025.
> The main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is
> resizeable by moving it...
> 
> 
> 2015-10-11 14:21 keltezéssel, FreeMan írta:
>> Hello,
>> fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64
>>
>> 1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under
>> Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE.
>> Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually
>> source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it.
>>
>> 2-
>> This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[FreeMan]

I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any 
component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. of 
course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one line. 
This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source line 
without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main toolbar. This 
huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1


On 11.10.2015 19:01, Péter Gábor wrote:

It is movable in the fixes branch at r50025.
The main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is
resizeable by moving it...


2015-10-11 14:21 keltezéssel, FreeMan írta:

Hello,
fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64

1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under
Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE.
Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually
source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it.

2-
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Re: [Lazarus] Codetools question

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 17:38, Mattias Gaertner wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:12:15 +0200
Ondrej Pokorny  wrote:


On 10.10.2015 13:00, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:

This is definitely not so :-(
I compile lazarus with 2.6.4, but work with compiler set to 3.0 or
even jvm.

That is how I bumped into the problem to begin with... :-)

CodeTools know what compiler constants are defined in the target tool.
You have to check if FPC_HAS_CPSTRING is defined. This should be
possible but I don't know how to do it. You'll have to wait for Mattias'
answer.

if Scanner.Values.IsDefined('FPC_HAS_CPSTRING') then ...

Great!

I added the procedure name to the list (see patch). It is shown without 
problems in the identifier completion window but it doesn't show any 
parameter hint help (ctrl+shift+space). I tried to register the 
procedure in "KeywordFuncLists.InternalInit" but it didn't help. Still 
no hint. What could be the problem?


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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 19:19, FreeMan wrote:
Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if 
/"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if 
/"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize.

Thank you/

Sorry. I don't understand you. Was your first suggestion
a) "do not show the splitter if it cannot move"
or
b) "make the splitter move, it does nothing"
?

>> suggestion: Can add max resize value for heigth.
I myself don't think something like this is needed. Ask Lazarus 
developers for their meaning and if they think it is a good enhancement, 
create a patch.


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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 18:17, Péter Gábor wrote:

...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide
enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of
component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much.

Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor
docking does something wrong?

It should not be movable/resizable. If it is so, it's a bug.

If you want to show all components in the component pallette, use 
Options->Environment->Window->Show complete component palette


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Re: [Lazarus] Codetools question

[Ondrej Pokorny]

On 11.10.2015 18:58, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:

I added the procedure name to the list (see patch).

Forgot the file...
Index: components/codetools/identcompletiontool.pas
===
--- components/codetools/identcompletiontool.pas(revision 50030)
+++ components/codetools/identcompletiontool.pas(working copy)
@@ -1353,6 +1353,8 @@
 AddCompilerFunction('Seg','var X','LongInt');
 AddCompilerProcedure('SetLength','var S:String;NewLength:Integer');
 AddCompilerProcedure('SetLength','var A:Array;NewLength:Integer');
+if Scanner.Values.IsDefined('FPC_HAS_CPSTRING') then
+  AddCompilerProcedure('SetString','out 
S:RawByteString;Buf:PAnsiChar;Len:SizeInt');
 AddCompilerFunction('SizeOf','Identifier','Integer');
 AddCompilerFunction('Slice','var A:Array;Count:Integer','Array');
 AddCompilerProcedure('Str','const X[:Width[:Decimals]];var S:String');
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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion for IDE

[FreeMan]

Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if 
/"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if 
/"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize. suggestion: 
Can add max resize value for heigth.

Thank you
/
On 11.10.2015 20:08, Ondrej Pokorny wrote:

On 11.10.2015 18:52, FreeMan wrote:
I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any 
component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. 
of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one 
line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source 
line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main 
toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1


Yes, I do the same. The splitter can be hidden if 
"/Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main window 
height/" is enabled. If the option is disabled, the splitter has to be 
visible.


Ondrej


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Re: [Lazarus] Codetools question

[Mattias Gaertner]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:58:39 +0200
Ondrej Pokorny  wrote:

>[...]
> I added the procedure name to the list (see patch). It is shown without 
> problems in the identifier completion window but it doesn't show any 
> parameter hint help (ctrl+shift+space). I tried to register the 
> procedure in "KeywordFuncLists.InternalInit" but it didn't help. Still 
> no hint. What could be the problem?

KeywordFuncLists is for keywords.

The parameter hints are in codetools 'FindCodeContext'. I added it.

Mattias

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus eats comment characters using Swedish keyboard

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Martin Frb wrote:

On 11/10/2015 17:33, Bo Berglund wrote:

I have investigated further now and when I use the Pi directly
(monitor connected to Pi and keyboard/mouse too) then the {} keys do
work.
When I noticed the problem I was using TightVNC to remotely access the
GUI. So somehow VNC might be involved here.



http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=17820

Never had time to work on it, and probably wont have anytime soon.

See note in bug. I dont know if same timestamp is allowed or if that is 
an issue in VNC. But in the LCL (for any custom control) it is 
interpreted as, this is the same keystroke, therefore it was already 
handled.


There's been an issue with shift keys- particularly multiple shift keys- 
in VNC for a long time, and I think that more testing is in order before 
blaming Lazarus.


Specifically, back in the Delphi days I'd use a doubleclick on something 
with three shift keys pressed to enter "guru mode" (e.g. to resize 
windows that were normally locked), and I'm pretty sure that when I 
started accessing our application servers over VNC I had to relax this 
to any two shift keys.


If there's a shift-key problem under VNC, but it does not show up with 
any non-VNC connection (i.e. local X11 session, remote X11 session using 
e.g. XDMCP, or X11 tunneled over SSH) then it's definitely not a Lazarus 
issue.


If a Lazarus/LCL program works properly on a local X11 session, and 
there's shift key problems over one or more of the remote X11 connection 
types (remote using e.g. XDMCP, X11 tunneled over SSH) then it's 
probably worth looking whether anything in Lazarus or the LCL could be 
improved.


There's at least two VNC implementations in Debian and derivatives: Real 
VNC on everything except ARM as the default, and TightVNC on (I think) 
almost everything; there's also RDP implementations in most desktop 
environments for remote support purposes. The open source RealVNC 
implementation is now falling behind reality, VNC (Ltd, or Inc, or 
whatever they call themselves) are only maintaining a closed source 
version although I believe binaries are available for free download for 
small-scale use. I don't know to what extent TightVNC is in a better 
position.


If this continues to be a problem for anybody, I'd suggest duplicating 
it on an x86 system using RealVNC, and then seeing if it's fixed in 
their closed-source version. If it is, then confer with the Debian 
(etc.) VNC maintainers.


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Re: [Lazarus] Play a sound/beep when compiling finished

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Ondrej Pokorny wrote:

Is it possible to play a sound or beep when compiling was finished?
Sometimes compiling takes some time and  I am struggling to get to know 
that it finished.


Put something in the "execute after" command (or whatever it's called).

I normally display a time there so that I can see I did actually run a 
build, if I've looked at something else meanwhile.


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Re: [Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

[DougC]

  On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:28:18 -0400 Richard Mace 
richard.m...@gmail.com wrote 



Hi All,

I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help file?



It looks like you can have a contents, use anchors and obviously have pictures.



Any thoughts?





Are you talking about a help file for your app or for Lazarus, itself?



If for Lazarus, what's the problem you are solving by suggesting this? Is the 
existing wiki so bad?



It is a really bad idea to tie your documentation to a single vendor.






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Re: [Lazarus] Built Lazarus on RPi2, warning on every project build

[Mark Morgan Lloyd]

Bo Berglund wrote:

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:48:55 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd
 wrote:

I /think/ that somebody pointed out elsewhere that those were spurious, 
but I'd need to check.

If it causes issues then for Wheezy 2015 try adding

-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6

to your /etc/fpc.cfg, or for Jessie add

-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.9

Note there's no space in there. Remember that for configuration files 
like this you'll usually need to use a unix/Linux editor, since the 
line-ending convention is different for DOS.



Where in the file do I add this line?
Or does it not matter?


If it mattered, I'd have said :-) That file is basically just a list of 
options that are appended most of the times FPC is run.


I'd suggest you either tack it in like this (this is a slightly older 
Raspbian, but you should get the idea):


..
# searchpath for fppkg user-specific packages
-Fu~/.fppkg/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$FPCTARGET/*

# path to the gcclib
# This for Raspbian 2014 -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.6.3
# This for Raspbian 2014 -Fl/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi
-Fl/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.6

# searchpath for libraries
#-Fl/usr/local/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/lib
#-Fl/lib;/usr/lib
-Fl/usr/local/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/lib/$FPCTARGET

# searchpath for tools
-FD/usr/local/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/bin/$FPCTARGET

# This for Raspbian 2014
#-FL/lib/ld-linux.so.3

#DEFINE NEEDCROSSBINUTILS
..

or alternatively put it at the end and put your initials in a comment. 
In either case, treat this as part of your system documentation.


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[Lazarus] Play a sound/beep when compiling finished

[Ondrej Pokorny]

Is it possible to play a sound or beep when compiling was finished?
Sometimes compiling takes some time and  I am struggling to get to know 
that it finished.


Ondrej

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