Re: [Leaf-user] Celeron/Pentium vs Duron/Athlon
Greg: Heya. A quick comment or two to your recent post: Is there a significant performance penalty when using a Celeron or Duron processor vs an Athlon or Pentium. Not just in speed but in in the ability to process. This is a really broad question. It all depends on what you want to do. I read a performance review on www.tomshardware.com. I don't recall the link but the data is almost a year old. It influenced how I look at hardware now. I know the feeling. THG influenced the way that I look at *benchmarks*. Each of them (and there are many; typically THG's site uses a dozen or so different benchmarks when the review or compare contrast multiple systems) is essentially restricted from demonstrating infinite performance because of a system bottleneck. That is, typically just one thing in the system will holdback a system's performance in any given benchmark. This could be cache size, FSB speed, CPU MHz, northbridge chipset vendor, memory bus bandwidth, memory latency, graphics card speed, etc. So the best way to see how good a system is is to run it against multiple benchmarks which evaluate performance against multiple bottlenecks. Then you can make an informed decision about where to spend your money to go after the cheapest bottleneck. I'd agree with what Tom said: for sub-1GHz machines, the most bang for a buck can most often be had by upgrading the graphics card. Tom's Hardware has made other comparisons. He has found Duron and Athlon's out perform Intel chips. I get the picture that the food chain looks like celeron, pentium, duron, athlon...this is a genralization. The other problem when looking at speed is that Intel use this a marketing tool. AMD chips perform better at lower speeds suggesting that the ability to process is held by AMD chips. You could start a religious war here. :) THG does a fairly good job of reporting about which systems are currently the top-dog at a given price target. I'd agree that AMD holds the lead here. However, THG also overclocks whatever they can get their hands on, to see whose system has more game left in it. In this category, Intel's P4 is out in front (though you'd pay more it). Also, I understand that there are multiple reporters who work for THG, and they each have their personal preferences. I recall reading one who was upset about paying $15 more for a stick of RDRAM than DDR SDRAM, but thought paying $20 more for CAS=2 memory instead of CAS=2.5 memory was well worth it. Shrug. Lastly, surely both Intel and AMD use performance numbers as marketing tools: Intel boasts that they have the fastest CPU frequency, and AMD boasts that their design does more work per clock cycle so it doesn't matter. They're competitors approaching a big market in two different manners (Intel wants to own the high-margin Performance Desktop segment, while AMD wants to own the high-volume Mainstream Desktop segment), so I'm not surprised that there's marketing and positioning. I'd greatly prefer the spend their monies on that than on, say, more Blue Man Group advertisements. :) cheers, Scott ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
[Leaf-user] default policy=reject...?
Hi List Never got around to it, but since one of my friends portscanned the Dachstein (rc1-floppy-dmz) box the other day, I'm now reminded that I wanted to change the default policy, so closed ports don't show... It's set set up with IPFILTER_SWITCH=firewall Question: The place to make this change is ipfilter.conf in the # A function to configure the filters for firewalling ipfilter_firewall_cfg () { -section, in: ipfilter_policy DENY -to: ipfilter_policy REJECT ... right? TIA Jon Clausen -- .signature ;) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
[Leaf-user] Breaking the 255 byte barrier
Greetings! I'm working on a project using the Dachstein v1.0.2 on a flash module. Everything is working well except that I am up against the 255 character limit for syslinux.cfg. As an immediate workaround, I just renamed several of the packages with 1 character names (1.lrp, etc.) but that causes problems with backing them up and is just generally inelegant. I searched the mail archives because I recall seeing mention of some sort of substitution where you replace the package list in syslinux.cfg with a pointer to a file that contains the package names. I couldn't find it, although I did find mention of a workaround such as I used. Can anyone help me out with the specifics of how to get around the 255-character limit? thanks! paul Paul M. Wright, Jr. McKay Technologies making technology play nice ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] Breaking the 255 byte barrier
How about using the file lrpkg.cfg according to the DCD format. Not a lot of difference between a CD and a flash other than R/W. lrpkg.cfg has no limit. It is is just a text line containing everything from syslinux.cfg after the LRP= it could look like this etc,local,modules,ramlog,dhcpd,lbiz,sshd,,ifconfig,ipsec,ipsec509,weblet,psentry If you want a file to load from the floppy instead of the flash use something like libz:R Paul M. Wright, Jr. wrote: Greetings! I'm working on a project using the Dachstein v1.0.2 on a flash module. Everything is working well except that I am up against the 255 character limit for syslinux.cfg. As an immediate workaround, I just renamed several of the packages with 1 character names (1.lrp, etc.) but that causes problems with backing them up and is just generally inelegant. I searched the mail archives because I recall seeing mention of some sort of substitution where you replace the package list in syslinux.cfg with a pointer to a file that contains the package names. I couldn't find it, although I did find mention of a workaround such as I used. Can anyone help me out with the specifics of how to get around the 255-character limit? thanks! paul ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] Breaking the 255 byte barrier
Victor - Thanks! I did look at the DCD image to see how it was done but in the ISO image, the syslinux.cfg file has the packages listed out and the lrpkg.cfg has that same information so I'm not clear on the syntax to make the program look for the list of packages in the lrpkg.cfg file. That's the point where I'm stuck. It can't be as simple as putting ...LRP=/dev/hda1/lrpkg.cfg in the syslinux.cfg. Or can it? paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Victor McAllister Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:37 PM To: Leaf-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Breaking the 255 byte barrier How about using the file lrpkg.cfg according to the DCD format. Not a lot of difference between a CD and a flash other than R/W. lrpkg.cfg has no limit. It is is just a text line containing everything from syslinux.cfg after the LRP= it could look like this etc,local,modules,ramlog,dhcpd,lbiz,sshd,,ifconfig,ipsec,ipsec509, weblet,psentry If you want a file to load from the floppy instead of the flash use something like libz:R Paul M. Wright, Jr. wrote: Greetings! I'm working on a project using the Dachstein v1.0.2 on a flash module. Everything is working well except that I am up against the 255 character limit for syslinux.cfg. As an immediate workaround, I just renamed several of the packages with 1 character names (1.lrp, etc.) but that causes problems with backing them up and is just generally inelegant. I searched the mail archives because I recall seeing mention of some sort of substitution where you replace the package list in syslinux.cfg with a pointer to a file that contains the package names. I couldn't find it, although I did find mention of a workaround such as I used. Can anyone help me out with the specifics of how to get around the 255-character limit? thanks! paul ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] Celeron/Pentium vs Duron/Athlon
Scott C. Best wrote: You could start a religious war here. :) THG does a fairly good job of reporting about which systems are currently the top-dog at a given price target. I'd agree that AMD holds the lead here. However, THG also overclocks whatever they can get their hands on, to see whose system has more game left in it. In this category, Intel's P4 is out in front (though you'd pay more it). Yeah I should be careful. I really don't mean to start a religious war. I used to buy only Intel processors. That comes from the my days with early 80286 clones. AMD had some problems. Actually I was an Intel bigot for many years. Now at this day and age--and I speak for myself--I don't think the hardware much matters anymore. 500mhz is good enough, 1000mhz is just right for games even with a bad video card. The trouble is that it is hard to see the difference after your hardware is at a certain level of performance. For example I blew some money on DDR memory, and I don't now how much it matters for a Windows desktop. I'll soon be dual booting this machine with Linux and may be I might get excited!? LOL...I think I was more impressed with game texture map improvements generated by my recent video card purchase, than the kids were. In this day and age I buy for price and not name brands. Since I am buying for price. Since Intel has desupported socket7 hardware and the lowend desktop. Since AMD and others can create a chip set for a motherboard. I find that I have wound up with AMD hardware. I really don't worry about running hardware bench marks on my own equipment because there's not allot I worry about in tweaking hardware. In most cases, the general all around performance is good. I'll only really get excited if they can ever improve the bus speed because that's where the real problems lie these days. That's where I feel it is all commodity junk. If an Intel chip was on sale, I'd buy it. For the home market buy what you can afford and you'd do just fine. I think Dan Gilleece had some insightful comments on the subject too. I hope this helps, Greg ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
[Leaf-user] openssh in bering
Has anyone been able to get openssh to work on a bering single installation cd . I have bare minimum installed in the way of lrp pkgs.I get nuthing but errors when trying to backup before reboot. ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] openssh in bering
Ooops Sorry meant single installation floppy not cd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Van Eeckhoutte Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Leaf-user] openssh in bering Has anyone been able to get openssh to work on a bering single installation cd . I have bare minimum installed in the way of lrp pkgs.I get nuthing but errors when trying to backup before reboot. ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user