[LU] January games moved for TV

[Wiggy]

Villa away now Friday night (13th)

Brentford home now Sunday 2pm (22nd)


https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/30644/live-tv-january-broadcast-selections-confirmed

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Re: [LU] January

[Ted]

Okay - in footballing terms, I often hear people say "they play average
football" to describe the way a team plays all of the time.

That's what I thought you were alluding to, not the true meaning of the
word!

So I concede.

(even though I think we've played  better than average this season!)

 :-)

Even Wilder agrees, there's still a long way to go. BELIEVE!








On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, 10:07 Graham Farr,  wrote:

> Agreed.and when you are brilliant one week and shite the next
> weekthat’s average !
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 7 Apr 2019, at 12:03 am, Ted  wrote:
>
>
> Really? Do you go to games?
> I'm sick of the negativity - we've played great this season.
>
> "Average since Hull game" Get real.
>
> Fuck me, some of you need to get a grip.
> Derby game, WBA?
>
> Keep the faith.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2019, 23:41 Graham Farr,  wrote:
>
>> We let our best player go Saiz and
>> did not replace him. The free flowing football Stoke home Derby away
>> Norwich away Sheffield W away a distant memory. Been average since the Hull
>> home defeat. Need Shackleton Edmondson etc now to liven it up coz this lot
>> are choking big time.
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Re: [LU] January

[Graham Farr]

Agreed.and when you are brilliant one week and shite the next 
weekthat’s average !

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Apr 2019, at 12:03 am, Ted 
mailto:tedhea...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Really? Do you go to games?
I'm sick of the negativity - we've played great this season.

"Average since Hull game" Get real.

Fuck me, some of you need to get a grip.
Derby game, WBA?

Keep the faith.







On Sat, 6 Apr 2019, 23:41 Graham Farr, 
mailto:graham.f...@yara.com>> wrote:
We let our best player go Saiz and
did not replace him. The free flowing football Stoke home Derby away Norwich 
away Sheffield W away a distant memory. Been average since the Hull home 
defeat. Need Shackleton Edmondson etc now to liven it up coz this lot are 
choking big time.

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Re: [LU] January

[Ted]

Really? Do you go to games?
I'm sick of the negativity - we've played great this season.

"Average since Hull game" Get real.

Fuck me, some of you need to get a grip.
Derby game, WBA?

Keep the faith.







On Sat, 6 Apr 2019, 23:41 Graham Farr,  wrote:

> We let our best player go Saiz and
> did not replace him. The free flowing football Stoke home Derby away
> Norwich away Sheffield W away a distant memory. Been average since the Hull
> home defeat. Need Shackleton Edmondson etc now to liven it up coz this lot
> are choking big time.
>
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[LU] January

[Graham Farr]

We let our best player go Saiz and
did not replace him. The free flowing football Stoke home Derby away Norwich 
away Sheffield W away a distant memory. Been average since the Hull home 
defeat. Need Shackleton Edmondson etc now to liven it up coz this lot are 
choking big time.

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Re: [LU] January

[Mark Humphries]

I think that we aren’t doing as well as I hoped (20 points clear), and we
aren’t doing a poorly as I feared (20 points adrift)

We are doing slightly worse than I expected at the start of the season, but
then again I think Gradel was a match winner and it helps to have 2 in a
team (Snoddy is the other), so that would explain it - plus we are not far
off.

I don’t think Bates spending £5m of his own cash would siginificantly alter
either where we are, or where I would expect.  It would take a LOT of cash
(£15m) for me to expect automatic promotion - and that’s never going to
happen.  I knew that 7 years ago.  I knew that 10 years ago.

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Sent: 25 January 2012 07:41
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Subject: Re: [LU] January

I  think it is the way you have read it (maybe the way I wrote it) rather
than the 'logic'Some fans think we are doing well Some fans are pro Bates
(or at least not anti) That is what I was saying rather than 'all fans who
think we are doing well are pro Bates '
>From memory it is to do with sets and sub-sets - those circles they used to
draw in maths lessons Dave

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Re: [LU] January

[DAVID NATTAN]

I  think it is the way you have read it (maybe the way I wrote it) rather than 
the 'logic'Some fans think we are doing well Some fans are pro Bates (or at 
least not anti)
That is what I was saying rather than 'all fans who think we are doing well are 
pro Bates '
>From memory it is to do with sets and sub-sets - those circles they used to 
>draw in maths lessons
Dave


"those who reckon we are doing well and are pro Bates "

wow... great logic there. NOT. 

let's get this done: who on the list is PRO bates? 

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On 24 Jan 2012, at and 21:58, DAVID NATTAN  wrote:



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Re: [LU] January

[Eric Barlier]

ok, not bad! looks like the logic is solid to some extent at least. 

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On 25 Jan 2012, at 14:26, Robert Heath  wrote:

> 
> 
> let's get this done: who on the list is PRO bates?
> 
> 
> Me. 
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Re: [LU] January

[Robert Heath]

>
> let's get this done: who on the list is PRO bates?
>
>
Me.
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Re: [LU] January

[Eric Barlier]

"those who reckon we are doing well and are pro Bates "

wow... great logic there. NOT. 

let's get this done: who on the list is PRO bates? 

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On 24 Jan 2012, at and 21:58, DAVID NATTAN  wrote:

> 
> YesNo problem with the number of points gained in January BUT you have to 
> factor in that we were 1 0 down in each of the 3 games whilst it was 11 v 11. 
> We only actually got any goals (and won any points) when the opposition were 
> down to ten men.In each of the 3 games the dismissal came early on and in 
> none of them was the red card given for preventing a goal by us - Ipswich 
> would have been on own goal if anything- 
> I have said after both the home games that the fact that we scored so late on 
> does show a commitment from the players and a belief in the manager.
> It appears there is a bit of a split on the list - those who reckon we are 
> doing well and are pro Bates are those who for the most part do not tend to 
> go to games, whereas those of us who are more downbeat and pessimistic are 
> those who go to ER. (with obvious exceptions Dr Mike and his MS and anti 
> Grayson stuff)
> A bit like the Becchio situation - those of us who watch him regularly know 
> that he is very limited (but has been effective) whilst those who only see 
> the goals on TV, read the scores think he is great.
> This is NOT a 'real fan' argument or in any way meant as a slight on those of 
> you who do not go to games for whatever reason
> Dave
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Re: [LU] January

[MarkBursa]

>>It appears there is a bit of a split on the list - those who reckon  we 
are
doing well and are pro Bates are those who for the most part do not  tend to
go to games, whereas those of us who are more downbeat and  pessimistic are
those who go to ER<<
 
 


I can understand why you might have come to that conclusion - and  while I 
only go to the occasional game, I'm certainly not "pro-Bates".  But life is 
not as black & white as some here would have it. Situations  like the sale 
of Howson are complex, and we can't really come to a proper  judgement 
without all the facts.So I prefer to stay open-minded and try and  reach a 
proper 
understanding as best I can, rather than simply "blaming  Bates".
 
And while we might not be playing particularly well, we are still  very 
much in with a chance of promotion - we're only 1 point of the playoffs,  and 
only 8pts off automatic promotion. This league is unpredictable, and  nobody 
is running away with it - even West Ham, with their sugardaddy  owners and 
their parachute payments, are only 11pts ahead of  us.
 
It took 8 years to get back to the top division in the 1980s, when it  was 
arguably easier to achieve. It's taken 8 years so far this time, and we're  
actually pretty close, and we went much further down than we did back then. 
 
I don't actually expect us to get back this season, and even if we  don't, 
I'd still like Grayson to get more time. Stability should not be  
underestimated, even if that does mean more Bates-related misery. Because he  
won't go 
until he wants to, and until it makes financial sense for  him.
 
Mark

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Re: [LU] January

[Mark Humphries]

I don't think there are any "pro Bates" on the list Dave, I am certainly
not.

I just don't believe everything is necessarily his fault, he is just another
in the long line of shit owners we have had, and that boycotts and protests
aren't going to make him piss off.  Unless someone can come up with
something constructive it just comes across at constant whingeing and
sniping.  Im not just talking about the letting off steam to the list, we
all do it, it's the sniping and constant bringing up of anything/everything
they perceive as negative.

When that happens, and I believe its not actually all Bates doing, I will
say so, just for a bit of balance.  
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of DAVID NATTAN
Sent: 24 January 2012 11:28
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Subject: Re: [LU] January


YesNo problem with the number of points gained in January BUT you have to
factor in that we were 1 0 down in each of the 3 games whilst it was 11 v
11. We only actually got any goals (and won any points) when the opposition
were down to ten men.In each of the 3 games the dismissal came early on and
in none of them was the red card given for preventing a goal by us - Ipswich
would have been on own goal if anything- I have said after both the home
games that the fact that we scored so late on does show a commitment from
the players and a belief in the manager.
It appears there is a bit of a split on the list - those who reckon we are
doing well and are pro Bates are those who for the most part do not tend to
go to games, whereas those of us who are more downbeat and pessimistic are
those who go to ER

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Re: [LU] January

[McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)]

Irrespective of going to games or not, I can't imagine anyone in the list is 
pro Bates? Wash your mouth out! :-> 

I've not been to ER for years due to living in different climes, but the man is 
about as transparent as a bag of ***t and it is this lack of transparency that 
is poisoning everything leaving every word he utters (and now to a lesser 
extent SG) as infuriating and provocative.

I genuinely admire the massive dedication the ST holders amongst you have in 
forking out that MASSIVE amount of money for previously what was 3rd and now 
2nd tier footy. Unless I lived in Leeds city itself, I don't know how all of 
you do it - but it still doesn't make KB more likeable. 

Rather I would say the divergence amongst the listers is if the club should be 
run as

- a viable footballing concern: if not profitable as a business at least not a 
non-money losing operation with football being the (massively) primary focus 
i.e. players.

- going "beyond football": profits are NOT exclusively for the football side, 
are used to develop and "diversify" the income streams of the club (conference 
areas, boxes) and not all profits are used automatically on players due to 
owner's whim, and as is his wont given he is the owner. Allegedly. 

Please be gentle with the flaming responses... ;->

BMW

PS I'm still 100% with Rich Walker on Becchio. :->


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Behalf Of DAVID NATTAN
Sent: martes, 24 de enero de 2012 12:28
To: list leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] January


YesNo problem with the number of points gained in January BUT you have to 
factor in that we were 1 0 down in each of the 3 games whilst it was 11 v 11. 
We only actually got any goals (and won any points) when the opposition were 
down to ten men.In each of the 3 games the dismissal came early on and in none 
of them was the red card given for preventing a goal by us - Ipswich would have 
been on own goal if anything- 
I have said after both the home games that the fact that we scored so late on 
does show a commitment from the players and a belief in the manager.
It appears there is a bit of a split on the list - those who reckon we are 
doing well and are pro Bates are those who for the most part do not tend to go 
to games, whereas those of us who are more downbeat and pessimistic are those 
who go to ER. (with obvious exceptions Dr Mike and his MS and anti Grayson 
stuff)
A bit like the Becchio situation - those of us who watch him regularly know 
that he is very limited (but has been effective) whilst those who only see the 
goals on TV, read the scores think he is great.
This is NOT a 'real fan' argument or in any way meant as a slight on those of 
you who do not go to games for whatever reason
Dave
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Re: [LU] January

[DAVID NATTAN]

YesNo problem with the number of points gained in January BUT you have to 
factor in that we were 1 0 down in each of the 3 games whilst it was 11 v 11. 
We only actually got any goals (and won any points) when the opposition were 
down to ten men.In each of the 3 games the dismissal came early on and in none 
of them was the red card given for preventing a goal by us - Ipswich would have 
been on own goal if anything- 
I have said after both the home games that the fact that we scored so late on 
does show a commitment from the players and a belief in the manager.
It appears there is a bit of a split on the list - those who reckon we are 
doing well and are pro Bates are those who for the most part do not tend to go 
to games, whereas those of us who are more downbeat and pessimistic are those 
who go to ER. (with obvious exceptions Dr Mike and his MS and anti Grayson 
stuff)
A bit like the Becchio situation - those of us who watch him regularly know 
that he is very limited (but has been effective) whilst those who only see the 
goals on TV, read the scores think he is great.
This is NOT a 'real fan' argument or in any way meant as a slight on those of 
you who do not go to games for whatever reason
Dave
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Re: [LU] January

[Matt Anderson]

I don't think we are lucky. I know many of you don't watch anyone other than us 
but there are some awful teams, awful games in this league. However those awful 
teams can be world beaters the week after. I think we are just typical.  A good 
guide is how the neutral commentators cover the games. Hardly ever do they say 
we were crap, lucky, certain players are not good enough etc...



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On 24 Jan 2012, at 07:39, Lee Jones  wrote:

> I think its a mixture of both. I think we have a manager who is doing
> a good job getting results with below average resources, but we are
> also being lucky at the same time I dont think we'd have had 7/9 were
> it not for some good luck and some sendings off.
> The luck wont last - the question is, do the points keep coming then?
> 
> On 24 January 2012 02:26, Alec McQueen  wrote:
>> Ah, but according to the List experts we are playing so badly it cannot 
>> possibly last.
>> 
>> With every fluky win we are having a luckier and luckier season.
>> 
>> I happen to disagree. I think we have a manager who is doing a good job 
>> getting results with below average resources.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Alec
>> 
>> On 24/01/2012, at 8:59 AM, "Matt Anderson"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Not wishing to dampen the misery bit isn't 7 points out of 9 in January so
>>> far probably our best start to a year for ages?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> January always seems to bring any optimism crashing down but this year it's
>>> off the pitch not on!
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Re: [LU] January

[Lee Jones]

I think its a mixture of both. I think we have a manager who is doing
a good job getting results with below average resources, but we are
also being lucky at the same time I dont think we'd have had 7/9 were
it not for some good luck and some sendings off.
The luck wont last - the question is, do the points keep coming then?

On 24 January 2012 02:26, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> Ah, but according to the List experts we are playing so badly it cannot 
> possibly last.
>
> With every fluky win we are having a luckier and luckier season.
>
> I happen to disagree. I think we have a manager who is doing a good job 
> getting results with below average resources.
>
> Cheers
> Alec
>
> On 24/01/2012, at 8:59 AM, "Matt Anderson"  wrote:
>
>> Not wishing to dampen the misery bit isn't 7 points out of 9 in January so
>> far probably our best start to a year for ages?
>>
>>
>>
>> January always seems to bring any optimism crashing down but this year it's
>> off the pitch not on!
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Re: [LU] January

[Alec McQueen]

Ah, but according to the List experts we are playing so badly it cannot 
possibly last. 

With every fluky win we are having a luckier and luckier season. 

I happen to disagree. I think we have a manager who is doing a good job getting 
results with below average resources. 

Cheers
Alec

On 24/01/2012, at 8:59 AM, "Matt Anderson"  wrote:

> Not wishing to dampen the misery bit isn't 7 points out of 9 in January so
> far probably our best start to a year for ages?
> 
> 
> 
> January always seems to bring any optimism crashing down but this year it's
> off the pitch not on!
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[LU] January

[Matt Anderson]

Not wishing to dampen the misery bit isn't 7 points out of 9 in January so
far probably our best start to a year for ages?

 

January always seems to bring any optimism crashing down but this year it's
off the pitch not on!

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