Re: [LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-02 Thread John Boocock

On 01/12/14 18:43, Chris Briggs wrote:

As Maslow said if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it 
were a nail
He also said False optimism sooner or later means disillusionment, 
anger and hopelessness which is something you could never accuse a 
Leeds fan of doing:-)


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[LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Pilling
IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to
own or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him
is his knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial
support and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
honesty..well, I ask you!!
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-01 Thread leedssongs.com
Cellino is not fit and proper now. But in march next year he is? 

Makes perfect sense to me! (NOT!)


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Subject: [LU] Ridsdale! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFHWTF!

IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to own
or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him is his
knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial support
and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Briggs
The problem is that this is a pissing contest, it isn't about compromise and 
using common sense to resolve an issue. The FL have painted themselves into a 
corner, the only way they can get out of it is to look like incompetent dicks 
in the short term, they are doing this by following their own rules without 
deviation (even though they would be able to justify it).

As Maslow said if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as 
if it were a nail

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 On 1 Dec 2014, at 18:13, leedssongs.com p...@leedssongs.com wrote:
 
 Cellino is not fit and proper now. But in march next year he is? 
 
 Makes perfect sense to me! (NOT!)
 
 
 Noggie on the list
 
 
 
 
 
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 IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to own
 or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him is his
 knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial support
 and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale!!!!! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFH....WTF!

2014-12-01 Thread [broken-address] Nicholas Armit
And there are many clubs who can benefit from an unsuccessful or destabilised 
Leeds. Think of the dosh Blackburn made last week with the 7,000 Leeds fans 
there. That would be a lot to lose if Leeds ever got promoted.
Those involved:
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  From: Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk
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 Subject: Re: [LU] Ridsdale! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFHWTF!
   
The problem is that this is a pissing contest, it isn't about compromise and 
using common sense to resolve an issue. The FL have painted themselves into a 
corner, the only way they can get out of it is to look like incompetent dicks 
in the short term, they are doing this by following their own rules without 
deviation (even though they would be able to justify it).

As Maslow said if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as 
if it were a nail

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 On 1 Dec 2014, at 18:13, leedssongs.com p...@leedssongs.com wrote:
 
 Cellino is not fit and proper now. But in march next year he is? 
 
 Makes perfect sense to me! (NOT!)
 
 
 Noggie on the list
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: [LU] Ridsdale! The Kronsortium, Bates!!*$!!*, GFHWTF!
 
 IMO the only football related, football club related , fit and proper to own
 or run a football cub offence/incompetence you could levy against him is his
 knee jerk firing (and hiring) of managers.  In terms of financial support
 and means he clearly shines above those mentioned, in terms of
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale

2011-03-05 Thread sinister dexter
Someone introduce that man to the Glazers

On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:23, Andy Clayton wrote:

 
 Everything this man touches turns to shit.
 
 Plymouth now in admin.
 
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[LU] Ridsdale

2011-03-04 Thread Andy Clayton

Everything this man touches turns to shit.

Plymouth now in admin.

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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Nigel Sykes
All this pre-supposes that Ridsdale was the only option.  Without him being
there to run us down the drain, who knows what could have happened?  I dare
to dream that someone else could have managed things properly and built us
up to the heights of the league and European competition without betting it
all on black.

All this talk of wouldn't swap those years for anything exasperates me.
Let me remind you that we won precisely nothing under Ridsdale.  I for one
am sick of always being a bridesmaid.  A few (ultimately fruitless) nights
in Europe is the minimum we should have expected by the late 90's, not
something to be viewed as the new 'Glory Years'.  

The man will always be seen badly in my eyes, and his track record since
leaving Leeds shows he continues to be clueless in this business.

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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Cass

Fun times YES
Enjoyable? Memorable? Hell Yes - Hey they even toured Oz with El Tel as the 
manager


But it was nowhere near worth even 10% of the pain and suffering we brought 
on ourselves - You cant just blame Ridsdale - There was O'Leary, Bowyer 
Woodgate, Verner and Mad Mike  - all have to take some of the blame.


And then  there Kewell and hes just a complete c nut 


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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Simon Hart
   It's a stupid question because it didn't have to be one or the other.
   The team were in a position of great promise before the massive excess
   started. The team was progressing nicely with a good crop of talented
   young players. We didn't need Fowler, Keane, the goldfish, private
   jets, giving players 35k when they were looking for 15k, windfall
   contracts all round, not to mention Woody and Bowyergate and that prick
   writing a book about it whilst still their manager.
   With such a talented young side, who knows what we might have achieved
   had the club been managed sensibly.
   Si.
   Dr Michael Benjamin wrote:

Funny you should write that.
When I read that article I thought the opposite.
How much I would like to be him.
Before the sniggers.
Before the snide cheapies about tablets...
The guy lives his dream.
In his wake many see disaster, but I dont. Not any longer.
Would we trade those dreams? Would anyone on this list forsake the glory
that we had never mind the price.
Lets face it. If the transfer prices had not dropped we would not have
capsized. That was not his doing.
Look at Cardiff. Would anyone deny that they are probably going up?
Would anyone here really not want their position to be ours?
Does PR not deserve credit?
People laugh at  him. People hate him.
But on he goes.
Complete believe in himself.
He never gives up.
I really wish that on myself too.
Many dream but dont have the guts.
He does.
Simple as that.

Michael

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Only has to be reported in the press that he's considering an 'investment'
in Plymouth, and they're facing a winding up order already!

I'm beginning to think the man is a jinx.

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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread MarkBursa
 
But hey facts speak for themselves

 
Absolutely. Only in Football could someone with that reputation  continue 
to find employment.
 
I've covered some incompetent and rotten businesses in my time but I  don't 
think I've ever seen any CEO as out of touch as Ridsdale was. Zero risk  
management, no idea how to balance the books and a lack of market knowledge  
that was frightening - like offering players wages three times even their  
agents' expectations.
 
A lifetime ban from football would have been a lenient punishment.  Jail 
would have been about right.
 
The tw*t even engineered himself a £600k payoff instead of being  sacked 
for gross misconduct.
 
To defend Ridsdale is to defend the indefensible.
 
M
 
 


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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Heath
like offering players wages three times even their  
  agents' expectations.
   
  This is a myth. People love to blather on about this but there is no evidence 
that it ever happened.


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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread MarkBursa
 
This is a myth. People love to  blather on about this but there is no 
evidence that it ever  happened.


Absolutely NOT a myth!
 
The evidence came from Seth Johnson himself - he  was on next to nothing at 
Derby and was hopeful of a big £10k/week deal  from Leeds. Risible opened 
the bidding at £30k.
 
All our players were on top dollar under the  clown. Wage bill was 95% of 
turnover - and as soon as turnover dropped  because of non-CL qualification, 
the game was  up.  
 
The evidence is on the PLC balance  sheet.
 
M
 
 




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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread John Boocock IFA

On 26/11/2010 13:26, Robert Heath wrote:
=

   This is a myth. People love to blather on about this but there is no 
evidence that it ever happened.



No Rob, it's a myth that it's a myth :-)
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Heath
Actually, it is a commonly held misconception that it is a myth that it is a 
myth.

Seth Johnson himself said

Did he? To whom?
  _  

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On 26/11/2010 13:26, Robert Heath wrote:
  =
  This is a myth. People love to blather on about this but there is no 
evidence that it ever happened.
  
  
  No Rob, it's a myth that it's a myth :-)
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread matt
Oh hello

Leeds + ridsdale - how did that end?
Barnsley + Ridsdale - how did that end?
Cardiff + ridsdale - how many malaysians helped out there?

2011/2- plymouth deducted 10 points?

I'm not fortunate enough to be on the inside of every club. But hey...if you 
are great. 

Ridsdale shouldn't be allowed in football. He is either f@@king incompetant or 
a complete Jonah!!!





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- Original Message - 
Once before I noted he messed up leeds barnsley and cardiff and was corrected 
   But hey facts speak for themselves

I think you were actually asked for some facts about Barnsley and Cardiff so 
that these facts could in fact speak for themselves. Did you ever provide any 
of these facts ?  I seem to remember some sort of cop-out and you saying that 
you didn't want to do my research for me. That was you wasn't it ? Of course if 
you had any facts which had lead you to your opinions then you wouldn't need to 
research them now. You'd have them to hand and readily available.
So what are the facts about Barnsley and Cardiff ? What do you know that 
Ridsdale did at either club ?  Let's have some facts speaking for themselves.
 
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread MarkBursa
 

So what are the facts about Barnsley and Cardiff ? What  do you know 
that Ridsdale did at either club ?  Let's have some facts  speaking for 
themselves.


Bloody hell Rick, just Google Ridsdale Cardiff Barnsley and there's  
mountains of evidence!
 
Under Risible, Cardiff's debt more than doubled, from £30m to £66m.  And 
then he scammed the fans, making them pay up front for season tickets,  
supposedly to use the money to buy players to guarantee promotion. Then he  
used 
the ticket dosh to pay the taxman. And Cardiff didn't get  promoted.
 
That's two facts for you!
 
Getting sick of Ridsdale Apologists... 
 
M





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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread matt
Thank goodness for Bates. He is great

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So what are the facts about Barnsley and Cardiff ? What  do you know 
that Ridsdale did at either club ?  Let's have some facts  speaking for 
themselves.


Bloody hell Rick, just Google Ridsdale Cardiff Barnsley and there's  
mountains of evidence!
 
Under Risible, Cardiff's debt more than doubled, from £30m to £66m.  And 
then he scammed the fans, making them pay up front for season tickets,  
supposedly to use the money to buy players to guarantee promotion. Then he  
used 
the ticket dosh to pay the taxman. And Cardiff didn't get  promoted.
 
That's two facts for you!
 
Getting sick of Ridsdale Apologists... 
 
M





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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread sinister dexter
Actually Rob, I remember seeing Johnson say exactly that in an interview on 
television some time back, so it is on record somewhere, and if it wasn't true 
I doubt Johnson would have got away with having it broadcast.

Anyway, it's all bitter tears under the bridge now, If I had a fanny I'd be a 
lesbian.

On 26 Nov 2010, at 14:26, Robert Heath wrote:

 Actually, it is a commonly held misconception that it is a myth that it is a 
 myth.
 
 Seth Johnson himself said
 
 Did he? To whom?
 

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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - Actually Rob, I remember seeing Johnson say 
exactly that in an interview on television some time back, so it is on record 
somewhere, and if it wasn't true I doubt Johnson would have got away with 
having it broadcast.

I also understand that this is documented and has been confirmed, even by 
Ridsdale. On the other hand, even if he had signed for 10K, how long would the 
team have continued to perform once he found out that he was being paid far 
less then everyone around him ? Overpaying ALL the players (in terms of what 
should have been budgeted) is what was going on. Trying to pay one player far 
less than the others is not necessarily a very good way to run the squad. It's 
a bit like the Goldfish story. It's a good story but how much water does the 
goldfish tank hold.
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-26 Thread sinister dexter
Anyhow, they are all over pampered over paid and over rated these days. 
Scab refs if the land of the perspiration saturated sock tomorrow I believe, 
will all those pampered ponces cross the picket line me wonders?
 
On 26 Nov 2010, at 16:31, Rick Duniec wrote:

 - Original Message - Actually Rob, I remember seeing Johnson say 
 exactly that in an interview on television some time back, so it is on record 
 somewhere, and if it wasn't true I doubt Johnson would have got away with 
 having it broadcast.
 
 I also understand that this is documented and has been confirmed, even by 
 Ridsdale. On the other hand, even if he had signed for 10K, how long would 
 the team have continued to perform once he found out that he was being paid 
 far less then everyone around him ? Overpaying ALL the players (in terms of 
 what should have been budgeted) is what was going on. Trying to pay one 
 player far less than the others is not necessarily a very good way to run the 
 squad. It's a bit like the Goldfish story. It's a good story but how much 
 water does the goldfish tank hold.
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[LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-25 Thread tim . whelan
Only has to be reported in the press that he's considering an 'investment' in 
Plymouth, and they're facing a winding up order already!
 
I'm beginning to think the man is a jinx.
 
Tim W.


  
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Re: [LU] Ridsdale works his magic again

2010-11-25 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Funny you should write that.
When I read that article I thought the opposite.
How much I would like to be him.
Before the sniggers.
Before the snide cheapies about tablets...
The guy lives his dream.
In his wake many see disaster, but I dont. Not any longer.
Would we trade those dreams? Would anyone on this list forsake the glory
that we had never mind the price.
Lets face it. If the transfer prices had not dropped we would not have
capsized. That was not his doing.
Look at Cardiff. Would anyone deny that they are probably going up?
Would anyone here really not want their position to be ours?
Does PR not deserve credit?
People laugh at  him. People hate him.
But on he goes.
Complete believe in himself.
He never gives up.
I really wish that on myself too.
Many dream but dont have the guts.
He does.
Simple as that.

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On 26 November 2010 00:04, tim.whe...@talk21.com wrote:

 Only has to be reported in the press that he's considering an 'investment'
 in Plymouth, and they're facing a winding up order already!

 I'm beginning to think the man is a jinx.

 Tim W.



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Re: [LU] Ridsdale at Barnsley and Cardiff

2010-08-31 Thread Sam Gibbard

What has Ridsdale done wrong financially at either Barnsley or Cardiff? I can't 
believe someone apparently so interested in finance and football would ask that 
question
 
I am not going to do your homework for you, but just for an example, type 
Ridsdale, financial and mess into Google and see what you get. The facts 
are not thin on the ground, they just require pulling your head out of the sand 
and seeing what is right in front of you. 
 
Here is just one soundbite: Cardiff City has admitted it is in financial 
crisis and fans are rounding on Chairman Peter Ridsdale—the man responsible for 
the destruction of Leeds United—after £3m raised by the fans for transfers has 
been used elsewhere.

Attacking our own players, now defending Ridsdale, what is going on with this 
list? No wonder Thirkers took his bat and ball home 
 
 


From: ri...@ntlworld.com
To: sgibb...@hotmail.com
Subject: Ridsdale at Barnsley and Cardiff
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:31:16 +0100





- Original Message - 
Are you fucking kidding  Really
 
No I'm not.
I'm also guessing that almost nothing in the way of factual information about 
the situation at Barnsley or Cardiff (at the relevant times) is gonna be added 
to this thread.
It's just too easy to say that everybody knows about Ridsdale when really 
they don't.
Everybody knows that he messed up Barnsley and Cardiff - it's a known fact. 
Except that the facts are a bit thin on the ground. 
Maybe I have got it wrong so I'm asking the question. 
What is Ridsdale supposed to have done wrong financially at either Barnsley or 
Cardiff ?
Maybe you can tell me because I would really like to know.
  
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