Re: Christmas

[Michael Kratky]

Merry Christmas Bill.
Hope you‘re  feel better soon but at least down under its summer unlike here in 
the Adirondacks.
Recovering from full knee replacement myself most painful and life restricting 
experience of my life.
Most amazing entry in the Christmas ornament challenge, I’m a big fan of scroll 
sawing.

Global warming no appreciable snow yet.

Michael Kratky


> On Dec 24, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Just praying you feeling better Bil. 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023, 7:33 PM  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> Well its Christmas day here and we all just finished our presents so I’m 
>> taking a quick break to
>> 
>> Wish all the members a Merry Christmas and hope your Christmas day tomorrow 
>> is better than mine so hard to feel happy
>> 
>> When you feel sick but seeing the joy on my family’s face helps.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
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Re: fathers day

[Michael Kratky]

I transitioned to HH over a decade ago definitely a game changer so much so 
that I recently ordered a Hammer A3 41 16” HH jointer planer combo. 
No father's day gifts for me as my 2 sons (product of wife #1 and a very bitter 
protracted divorce) now near 50 moved out and on decades  ago to their own 
lives don’t that involve me so woodworking-woodturning and all the friends I’ve 
made all over the world doing so has always has always been my salvation as has 
living in the over 6 million area Adirondack State forest.

Peace and happiness wherever you may find it.

Michael Kratky 

> On Sep 3, 2023, at 12:11 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Yea I nearly fainted when I opened it all the family chipped in to buy it 
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 10:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: fathers day
>  
> That's Awesome!
> What a nice Gift...
>  
> I am very happy for you Bill.
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 03:44:17 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
> <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>> wrote: 
>  
>  
> Got my father’s day present from my kids early today instead of tomorrow 
> because the courier dropped it off on the wrong day lol great for me I had no 
> idea they were getting this for me.
> 
> Fully carbide inserts helical spiral so quiet so smooth and no snipe this 
> piece of Tasmanian black hardwood looks like it’s been sanded with 320 grit 
> instead of strait off the thicknesser very impressive machine I will never go 
> make to full length hss blades again
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>  
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RE: Re Christmas

[Michael Kratky]

Mac,

 

Lots of moose sightings here might as well put them to work.

 

Thinking about headed your way for a Jets Buccaneer football game Jan 2nd

 

Merry downstate Christmas,

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 8:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re Christmas

 

Michael,

 

I love the graphic - Santa's sleigh pulled by Moose!

Santa had to switch from reindeer to "meese" - because the reindeer were 
grounded due to the ice storm.

And the moose is much better suited to pull heavy loads over ice. Never-mind 
that reindeer can fly and meese have never been allowed into "flight school" 
per US FAA and international flight certification regulations.

 

One more item: I bet about now you are giving SERIOUS thought to moving to some 
place about half way between your son and daughter - as long as it is MUCH 
further south!

 

Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year to you and all our fellow Group 
members!

Mac

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From: 
Sent: Dec 25, 2021 1:52 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: Re Christmas

 

 

Rick,

 

Merry Christmas.

 

Adirondack Christmas - Adirondack Country Store

 

Ice storm going on here in the Adirondacks. 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Hutley
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 7:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re Christmas

 

A merry Christmas to one and all. Going to be warm in Atlanta (73Deg F) but 
cooler than our friends in Australia!

 

Rick

 

On Dec 25, 2021, at 00:05, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 

Hey Bill, and All,

 

Have a Blessed Christmas Season, Church tonight Gifts and tomorrow stocks hung 
by the fire place and a nice Ham dinner. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 2:49 PM  wrote:

Yes its Christmas morning here right now 7.45 am and we are about to open a few 
presents

So before we do I wish all in this group a very merry Christmas and a very 
happy new year

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2021 4:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Subject: Re Christmas

 

Hello everyone,

I'd like to wish you all a Very Happy Christmas and a great (healthy) 2022.

I hope you get what you wished for

Cheers

Brigitte

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RE: Re Christmas

[Michael Kratky]

 

Rick,

 

Merry Christmas.

 

Adirondack Christmas - Adirondack Country Store

 

Ice storm going on here in the Adirondacks. 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Hutley
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2021 7:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re Christmas

 

A merry Christmas to one and all. Going to be warm in Atlanta (73Deg F) but 
cooler than our friends in Australia!

 

Rick





On Dec 25, 2021, at 00:05, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Hey Bill, and All,

 

Have a Blessed Christmas Season, Church tonight Gifts and tomorrow stocks hung 
by the fire place and a nice Ham dinner. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 2:49 PM  wrote:

Yes its Christmas morning here right now 7.45 am and we are about to open a few 
presents

So before we do I wish all in this group a very merry Christmas and a very 
happy new year

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2021 4:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Subject: Re Christmas

 

Hello everyone,

I'd like to wish you all a Very Happy Christmas and a great (healthy) 2022.

I hope you get what you wished for

Cheers

Brigitte

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RE: not so free timber and no place to escape

[Michael Kratky]

No nothing, astonishing as it may seem that here in the NY Adirondack State 
Park this is now allowed. Apparently with the down state socialists influx 
there’s been a lot of pressure put on the Adirondack Park Agency created in 
1971 to preserve the Adirondacks to now allow this.

 

I’m now in contact with an environmental group call Protect the Adirondacks, 
will let you know how that unfolds.

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 8:37 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not so free timber and no place to escape

 

Ouch, are they forced to put in a wet land pond or anything?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 7:18 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Hi Mac,

 

No move to the Villages in Florida after looking into the complex the homes 
there they are far too expensive with all kinds of monthly fees and 
restrictions.

 

Family is spread between Texas and California, looks like I will die here in 
upstate NY miserable and frozen which has been taken over by NY City and New 
Jersey socialists’ transplants who are bulldozing everything, the 12 ½ acre lot 
next to me is now being clear cut that was bought by a Bronx transplant.

Found out that such practices are totally legal unless it exceeds 25 acres, all 
that timber and not a stick to be had!

 

Merry Christmas,

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:21 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Michael,

 

Will you be closer to all those family members if/when you move to The Villages 
in Florida?

(less than 2,000-3,000 miles?)

 

The sooner the better!?  AND - WARMER!   LoL!

 

Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas - and a Safe, Healthy, and Happy New Year!

Mac


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From: 
Sent: Dec 21, 2021 10:26 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Tim,

 

We have a wonderful small Art Gift Gallery here in the Village of Northville 
called SVAN (Sacandaga Valley Art Network) that my wife and have been part of 
since its beginning some 20 years ago, such items sell if priced under $20 less 
their 30% commissions which will not exactly pay for too many shop toys  but 
the camaraderie and associated bragging rights are priceless; I’m sure my 2 
granddaughters, daughters in laws and nieces would love them who all live 
between 2,000-3,000 miles away and if I could happen to figure out their ring 
sizes. 

 

Being old and practical isn’t fun anymore.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:45 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Hey Michael,

 

Yeah not sure there is any marketing potential either. I've just been wanting 
to turn

rings since I first saw them and so I finally decided its time. 

A lot of gratification with it as you mentioned and My daughter was ecstatic 
when she

saw what I could do and immediately requested a Turquoise ring. Thus "the 
Turquoise Ring"

I have game calls and many other small turning jigs and attachments coming 
along with the

collet chucks.

But the rings I could hardly wait. 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:26 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been curiously following these for some time seems like a very fun turning 
venture that can be accomplished on the smallest and simplest lathes with much 
self gratification but don’t know about any marketing potential.

What say you?

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:52 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Good morning so as promised I would be getting more into 

turning and with that the passion has been to also do ring inlay,

as well as wood rings and many others that are tunable or fillable.

Available are stainless, ceramic, cobalt, wood, and many other variations

of rings or blanks for filling. 

I am super excited as I inlayed and turned down my first ring last night. 

Pictured is the Turquoise inlay ring  I created. 

I found out a lot of variations will occur during the process. 

items I used:

1. size 10 stainless steel inlay style ring blank  (Craft Supplies USA)

2. Turquoise granules  (Craft Supplies USA)

3. CA glue   (Mohawk Brand)

4. Accelerator  (Mohawk Brand)

5. Artisan 

not so free timber and no place to escape

[Michael Kratky]

Hi Mac,

 

No move to the Villages in Florida after looking into the complex the homes 
there they are far too expensive with all kinds of monthly fees and 
restrictions.

 

Family is spread between Texas and California, looks like I will die here in 
upstate NY miserable and frozen which has been taken over by NY City and New 
Jersey socialists’ transplants who are bulldozing everything, the 12 ½ acre lot 
next to me is now being clear cut that was bought by a Bronx transplant.

Found out that such practices are totally legal unless it exceeds 25 acres, all 
that timber and not a stick to be had!

 

Merry Christmas,

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:21 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Michael,

 

Will you be closer to all those family members if/when you move to The Villages 
in Florida?

(less than 2,000-3,000 miles?)

 

The sooner the better!?  AND - WARMER!   LoL!

 

Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas - and a Safe, Healthy, and Happy New Year!

Mac

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-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 21, 2021 10:26 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Tim,

 

We have a wonderful small Art Gift Gallery here in the Village of Northville 
called SVAN (Sacandaga Valley Art Network) that my wife and have been part of 
since its beginning some 20 years ago, such items sell if priced under $20 less 
their 30% commissions which will not exactly pay for too many shop toys  but 
the camaraderie and associated bragging rights are priceless; I’m sure my 2 
granddaughters, daughters in laws and nieces would love them who all live 
between 2,000-3,000 miles away and if I could happen to figure out their ring 
sizes. 

 

Being old and practical isn’t fun anymore.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:45 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Hey Michael,

 

Yeah not sure there is any marketing potential either. I've just been wanting 
to turn

rings since I first saw them and so I finally decided its time. 

A lot of gratification with it as you mentioned and My daughter was ecstatic 
when she

saw what I could do and immediately requested a Turquoise ring. Thus "the 
Turquoise Ring"

I have game calls and many other small turning jigs and attachments coming 
along with the

collet chucks.

But the rings I could hardly wait. 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:26 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been curiously following these for some time seems like a very fun turning 
venture that can be accomplished on the smallest and simplest lathes with much 
self gratification but don’t know about any marketing potential.

What say you?

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:52 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Good morning so as promised I would be getting more into 

turning and with that the passion has been to also do ring inlay,

as well as wood rings and many others that are tunable or fillable.

Available are stainless, ceramic, cobalt, wood, and many other variations

of rings or blanks for filling. 

I am super excited as I inlayed and turned down my first ring last night. 

Pictured is the Turquoise inlay ring  I created. 

I found out a lot of variations will occur during the process. 

items I used:

1. size 10 stainless steel inlay style ring blank  (Craft Supplies USA)

2. Turquoise granules  (Craft Supplies USA)

3. CA glue   (Mohawk Brand)

4. Accelerator  (Mohawk Brand)

5. Artisan Ring turning Chuck  (Craft Supplies USA)

6. Medium Aluminum Bushings  (Craft Supplies USA)

7. Easy Wood Tools Large EASY FINISHER™  (Easy Wood Tools)

8. misc grits of sand paper from 120, 180, 800, 1500

9. 3 step polishes #1, #2, #3 special polish from (Craft Supplies USA)

 

Rather then explain the process that I took there is a very good video

from Craft Supplies USA to watch. 

I also have found and will be getting some ring and other turning supplies

through WoodCraft as well. Lots of items out there.

I bought the ring chuck with the 8 X 1 1/4 thread but also a thread reducer to 

go on the LOM's as I feel I will do some tests on there just because I can 

 

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/72/7070/artisan-Ring-Turning-Chuck

https://www.easywoodtools.com/full-size

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/17/6058/dr.-kirks-Micro-Magic-Polishing-Wax?term=ring+polishing+compound
 
<https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/

RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

[Michael Kratky]

Tim,

 

We have a wonderful small Art Gift Gallery here in the Village of Northville 
called SVAN (Sacandaga Valley Art Network) that my wife and have been part of 
since its beginning some 20 years ago, such items sell if priced under $20 less 
their 30% commissions which will not exactly pay for too many shop toys  but 
the camaraderie and associated bragging rights are priceless; I’m sure my 2 
granddaughters, daughters in laws and nieces would love them who all live 
between 2,000-3,000 miles away and if I could happen to figure out their ring 
sizes. 

 

Being old and practical isn’t fun anymore.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:45 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Hey Michael,

 

Yeah not sure there is any marketing potential either. I've just been wanting 
to turn

rings since I first saw them and so I finally decided its time. 

A lot of gratification with it as you mentioned and My daughter was ecstatic 
when she

saw what I could do and immediately requested a Turquoise ring. Thus "the 
Turquoise Ring"

I have game calls and many other small turning jigs and attachments coming 
along with the

collet chucks.

But the rings I could hardly wait. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:26 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been curiously following these for some time seems like a very fun turning 
venture that can be accomplished on the smallest and simplest lathes with much 
self gratification but don’t know about any marketing potential.

What say you?

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:52 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Good morning so as promised I would be getting more into 

turning and with that the passion has been to also do ring inlay,

as well as wood rings and many others that are tunable or fillable.

Available are stainless, ceramic, cobalt, wood, and many other variations

of rings or blanks for filling. 

I am super excited as I inlayed and turned down my first ring last night. 

Pictured is the Turquoise inlay ring  I created. 

I found out a lot of variations will occur during the process. 

items I used:

1. size 10 stainless steel inlay style ring blank  (Craft Supplies USA)

2. Turquoise granules  (Craft Supplies USA)

3. CA glue   (Mohawk Brand)

4. Accelerator  (Mohawk Brand)

5. Artisan Ring turning Chuck  (Craft Supplies USA)

6. Medium Aluminum Bushings  (Craft Supplies USA)

7. Easy Wood Tools Large EASY FINISHER™  (Easy Wood Tools)

8. misc grits of sand paper from 120, 180, 800, 1500

9. 3 step polishes #1, #2, #3 special polish from (Craft Supplies USA)

 

Rather then explain the process that I took there is a very good video

from Craft Supplies USA to watch. 

I also have found and will be getting some ring and other turning supplies

through WoodCraft as well. Lots of items out there.

I bought the ring chuck with the 8 X 1 1/4 thread but also a thread reducer to 

go on the LOM's as I feel I will do some tests on there just because I can 

 

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/72/7070/artisan-Ring-Turning-Chuck

https://www.easywoodtools.com/full-size

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/17/6058/dr.-kirks-Micro-Magic-Polishing-Wax?term=ring+polishing+compound
 
<https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/17/6058/dr.-kirks-Micro-Magic-Polishing-Wax?term=ring+polishing+compound=ring%20polishing%20compound>
 =ring%20polishing%20compound

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave..

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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RE: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

[Michael Kratky]

Have been curiously following these for some time seems like a very fun turning 
venture that can be accomplished on the smallest and simplest lathes with much 
self gratification but don’t know about any marketing potential.

What say you?

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:52 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Ring inlay, Lathe-LOM

 

Good morning so as promised I would be getting more into 

turning and with that the passion has been to also do ring inlay,

as well as wood rings and many others that are tunable or fillable.

Available are stainless, ceramic, cobalt, wood, and many other variations

of rings or blanks for filling. 

I am super excited as I inlayed and turned down my first ring last night. 

Pictured is the Turquoise inlay ring  I created. 

I found out a lot of variations will occur during the process. 

items I used:

1. size 10 stainless steel inlay style ring blank  (Craft Supplies USA)

2. Turquoise granules  (Craft Supplies USA)

3. CA glue   (Mohawk Brand)

4. Accelerator  (Mohawk Brand)

5. Artisan Ring turning Chuck  (Craft Supplies USA)

6. Medium Aluminum Bushings  (Craft Supplies USA)

7. Easy Wood Tools Large EASY FINISHER™  (Easy Wood Tools)

8. misc grits of sand paper from 120, 180, 800, 1500

9. 3 step polishes #1, #2, #3 special polish from (Craft Supplies USA)

 

Rather then explain the process that I took there is a very good video

from Craft Supplies USA to watch. 

I also have found and will be getting some ring and other turning supplies

through WoodCraft as well. Lots of items out there.

I bought the ring chuck with the 8 X 1 1/4 thread but also a thread reducer to 

go on the LOM's as I feel I will do some tests on there just because I can 

 

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/72/7070/artisan-Ring-Turning-Chuck

https://www.easywoodtools.com/full-size

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/17/6058/dr.-kirks-Micro-Magic-Polishing-Wax?term=ring+polishing+compound=ring%20polishing%20compound

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave..

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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RE: Legacy Project Share

[Michael Kratky]

Jeff,

Made one last year out of walnut and tiger maple veneer after taking a week 
long class with Tom McLaughlin up the road in Canterbury NH but I like the 3D 
look better on yours rather than the 2D  from mine.

 

Michael

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 6:58 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Legacy Project Share

 

Hello Everyone,

This post is made in the hope that project photos on current or previous 
projects made on a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), in whole or in part, may 
inspire other users to share their own project photos with some related 
details, generate additional group feedback, and quite possibly some new 
sawdust making activity on your own machines.

 

I have included another example below of something I made a while back in an 
effort to keep this thread going.

 

Related Details

Description: Chess Table

Project Size: 24" Square x 30" High

Legacy Model: 900 Hand Crank

Legacy Method(s) Used: Tapered Legs

Wood Type(s): Maple and Mahogany

Finish: Clear Polyurethane

 

Please share your creativity

 

Jeff from Connecticut

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RE: Lathe & LOM turning

[Michael Kratky]

Curt,

 

Not in the cards this year time to get back to fishing, hiking, camping and 
long rides in the mountains (wait a minute I live in the mountains).

 

6-8” snow expected tomorrow.

 

Michael 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lathe & LOM turning

 

Hey Michael

Is there any chance the shows will be in Detroit this year?

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Friday, December 17, 2021, 08:23:05 AM EST, Michael Kratky 
 wrote: 

 

 

Great if one is very comfortably retired and doesn’t know what to do with 
oneself, could see it if there were grand kids, or great grand kids around to 
share the enthusiasm. I make more $$$ in my day job in a week then I do a year 
selling widgets, gadgets and trinkets. 

Woodworking and woodturning clubs and shows used to be a great way to vent but 
now they’ve dried up.

 

https://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/events/

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 7:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Lathe & LOM turning

 

Do any of you guys watch this guy and are there some 

videos that other's of you watch on turning?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUQFWk8gPY

 

Like I have said, I have turned for over 30 years doing 

chair leg repairs spindles for railings, cradles etc...

but have never done much leisure turning until now I am 

tooling up to do all kinds of things.

Bone turning being one of them. AKA curts favorite material

 

let me know your thoughts and some of your favorite youtubers 

you may follow.

And of course what your turning with what and how.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specailty

14171 160th Ave. 

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

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RE: Lathe & LOM turning

[Michael Kratky]

Great if one is very comfortably retired and doesn’t know what to do with 
oneself, could see it if there were grand kids, or great grand kids around to 
share the enthusiasm. I make more $$$ in my day job in a week then I do a year 
selling widgets, gadgets and trinkets. 

Woodworking and woodturning clubs and shows used to be a great way to vent but 
now they’ve dried up.

 

https://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/events/

 

Michael

 

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timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 7:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Lathe & LOM turning

 

Do any of you guys watch this guy and are there some 

videos that other's of you watch on turning?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FUQFWk8gPY

 

Like I have said, I have turned for over 30 years doing 

chair leg repairs spindles for railings, cradles etc...

but have never done much leisure turning until now I am 

tooling up to do all kinds of things.

Bone turning being one of them. AKA curts favorite material

 

let me know your thoughts and some of your favorite youtubers 

you may follow.

And of course what your turning with what and how.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specailty

14171 160th Ave. 

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Believe they start 1st in Baltimore then up to West Springfield, was told they 
are only dong 6 shows for 2022 their communications have always been very poor 
lucky if we get 2 weeks’ notice at the Club to prepare for the Show fortunately 
we are affiliated with Woodcraft so they provide lathes and turning accessories 
for us.

 

BTW, Jeff you mentioned timber frame joinery I’m also a sawyer and mill beams, 
I’m 3 hours from Hartford CT.

 

Michael

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 1:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Jeff,

That sounds to be almost EXACTLY like the venue in Baltimore, MD - where The 
Woodworking Shows normally start the show season.

It is held in one of the buildings used for the Maryland State Fair - in 
Timonium, MD. (north side of B'more)

We REALLY hate that the Woodworking Show seems to be floundering.  I, for one, 
am willing to pay a bit more for admission.  I feel the price for the 4 days is 
very low.  If they raised it to $18 at the door and $16 after 
coupons/discounts, I would not complain.  I don't think they have raised the 
admission price in the last 5-6 years at least!

Cheers!

Mac

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-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Dec 14, 2021 8:44 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

As a quick explanation, The Big E is short for Eastern States Exposition and is 
a large country fair type event held in Springfield Massachusetts for a couple 
weeks in late September into early October each year. During the rest of the 
year, the fairgrounds are used for other types of events, including “the 
woodworking shows”. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:29 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

Covid sucks vaccinated or not it sucks.so being from down under I’m dumb what 
is the Big E?

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 10:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

Jeff,

Got my 1200 the same time there.

 

I belong to the Western Mass Woodturners; they meet right across the street 
from the Big E. We always do turning demos during the Show and at last week’s 
meeting they notified us that is on for Jan 14-16 but with only 4 vendors 
signed up so far. Across the border here in NY face masks are mandated again 
regardless of one’s vaccine status, a big long running Sportsman Show near me 
in Johnstown scheduled for February just canceled as a result.

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Yes, I miss attending the Woodworking Shows as well. It was a yearly ritual 
until COVID. West Springfield was where I purchased my Legacy 900 back in 2004. 
I hope to attend in January 2022 but we will see.

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Michael Kratky  wrote:

 

Same here Tim, although Legacy’s CNC is very impressive I wouldn’t live long 
enough to pay it off and I know of no one in the region that makes a living 
woodworking to partner up all, they are all crafters.

 

Rollie is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge but haven’t crossed paths with 
him in some time due all the Shows being shut down. “The Woodworking Shows” are 
on the books in January for West Springfield Mass where I always see him but 
now with new COVID restrictions enacted yesterday I would have to believe the 
Show will go dark again. 

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:00 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Oh gotcha, I guess I don't know anymore about it then what he'd said. 

I did not know Festool bought out the idea or acquired it. Thanks for the 
insight on that.

Like for me I would not be the least interested in it. 

If I get a CNC someday I'm certain it will be Legacy's machines. I follow them 
some. 

Thanks again Michael.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:41 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Jeff,

Got my 1200 the same time there.

 

I belong to the Western Mass Woodturners; they meet right across the street 
from the Big E. We always do turning demos during the Show and at last week’s 
meeting they notified us that is on for Jan 14-16 but with only 4 vendors 
signed up so far. Across the border here in NY face masks are mandated again 
regardless of one’s vaccine status, a big long running Sportsman Show near me 
in Johnstown scheduled for February just canceled as a result.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:06 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Yes, I miss attending the Woodworking Shows as well. It was a yearly ritual 
until COVID. West Springfield was where I purchased my Legacy 900 back in 2004. 
I hope to attend in January 2022 but we will see.

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Michael Kratky  wrote:



Same here Tim, although Legacy’s CNC is very impressive I wouldn’t live long 
enough to pay it off and I know of no one in the region that makes a living 
woodworking to partner up all, they are all crafters.

 

Rollie is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge but haven’t crossed paths with 
him in some time due all the Shows being shut down. “The Woodworking Shows” are 
on the books in January for West Springfield Mass where I always see him but 
now with new COVID restrictions enacted yesterday I would have to believe the 
Show will go dark again. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:00 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Oh gotcha, I guess I don't know anymore about it then what he'd said. 

I did not know Festool bought out the idea or acquired it. Thanks for the 
insight on that.

Like for me I would not be the least interested in it. 

If I get a CNC someday I'm certain it will be Legacy's machines. I follow them 
some. 

Thanks again Michael.

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:41 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Hey Michael,

 

Rollie Johnson did a test for them not sure if he keep it but sure spoke highly 
of them. I think

he did a demo a CMWWA group too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE_channel=WoodworkersJournal> 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

Bill

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Yes

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:36 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Whats that for then Shaper Origin??



Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 8:53 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Just got this email:

 

This Week on
Shaper Sessions...

16 December 2021 at 04.00 pm PST 

Join us this week as we explore the recent launch for a ton of great ideas to 
help you finish up your holiday gift list!

Russ and Shawn will be building a 30-minute picture frame and then share some 
of their other favorite gift projects.

Join us this Thursday at 4:00 pm Pacific to get your questions answered on-air 
and qualify for our free giveaways!​​​

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:00 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Oh gotcha, I guess I don't know anymore about it then what he'd said. 

I did not know Festool bought out the idea or acquired it. Thanks for the 
insight on that.

Like for me I would not be the least interested in it. 

If I get a CNC someday I'm certain it will be Legacy's machines. I follow them 
some. 

Thanks again Michael.

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:41 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Hey Michael,

 

Rollie Johnson did a test for them not sure if he keep it but sure spoke highly 
of them. I think

he did a demo a CMWWA group too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE_channel=WoodworkersJournal> 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

Bill

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Just got this email:

 

This Week on
Shaper Sessions...

16 December 2021 at 04.00 pm PST 

Join us this week as we explore the recent launch for a ton of great ideas to 
help you finish up your holiday gift list!

Russ and Shawn will be building a 30-minute picture frame and then share some 
of their other favorite gift projects.

Join us this Thursday at 4:00 pm Pacific to get your questions answered on-air 
and qualify for our free giveaways!​​​

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:00 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Oh gotcha, I guess I don't know anymore about it then what he'd said. 

I did not know Festool bought out the idea or acquired it. Thanks for the 
insight on that.

Like for me I would not be the least interested in it. 

If I get a CNC someday I'm certain it will be Legacy's machines. I follow them 
some. 

Thanks again Michael.

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:41 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Hey Michael,

 

Rollie Johnson did a test for them not sure if he keep it but sure spoke highly 
of them. I think

he did a demo a CMWWA group too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE_channel=WoodworkersJournal> 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

Bill

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Same here Tim, although Legacy’s CNC is very impressive I wouldn’t live long 
enough to pay it off and I know of no one in the region that makes a living 
woodworking to partner up all, they are all crafters.

 

Rollie is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge but haven’t crossed paths with 
him in some time due all the Shows being shut down. “The Woodworking Shows” are 
on the books in January for West Springfield Mass where I always see him but 
now with new COVID restrictions enacted yesterday I would have to believe the 
Show will go dark again. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:00 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Oh gotcha, I guess I don't know anymore about it then what he'd said. 

I did not know Festool bought out the idea or acquired it. Thanks for the 
insight on that.

Like for me I would not be the least interested in it. 

If I get a CNC someday I'm certain it will be Legacy's machines. I follow them 
some. 

Thanks again Michael.

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:41 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Hey Michael,

 

Rollie Johnson did a test for them not sure if he keep it but sure spoke highly 
of them. I think

he did a demo a CMWWA group too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE_channel=WoodworkersJournal> 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

Bill

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy,

 

I followed Rollie some time ago playing with the Shaper Origin and excited 
about it but he didn’t disclosed how he came about it which makes a lot of 
difference.

I know Festool took it over some time ago which explains a lot.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 8:42 PM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: not legacy

 

Hey Michael,

 

Rollie Johnson did a test for them not sure if he keep it but sure spoke highly 
of them. I think

he did a demo a CMWWA group too. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:29 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE_channel=WoodworkersJournal> 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

Bill

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RE: not legacy

[Michael Kratky]

Have been following them the last 3 years, seems ideal for inlays like for 
floors or table tops, on their site you can register your email and they’ll 
notify when they do zoom demonstrations which are quite frequent and mostly in 
the middle of the day.  

 

Michael

 

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Subject: RE: not legacy

 

https://www.shapertools.com/en-us/origin/overview

 

Bill

 

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Subject: not legacy

 

This is not legacy but cool I have not seen this before amazing

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzPtXyhY3jE 
 
_channel=WoodworkersJournal

 

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RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the internet

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy,

LOL, the legacy is surely the Cadillac of CNC but I need one with training 
wheels as that saying “you can’t teach old dogs new tricks” applies to me and 
my woodworking income falls in the hobby category not to mention bailing out of 
this !@#$% blue State to Florida is certainly appealing.

 

Adirondack Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 11:59 AM
To: LOM Group
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Michael you can sell me your LOM 1200 and then you purchase a nice new Legacy 
CnC so we 

know in the future if we should buy one lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:12 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Agree Bill,

 

Off to a live Western Mass Woodturners Guild meeting this evening, the 1st one 
since all this COVID BS started almost 2 years ago, hopefully it’ll take off a  
few bricks from my anti social wall. The other good news they should all be 
jovial because pot stores (not the kitchen variety) are now legal in 
Massachusetts but coming soon to a store near you here in NY State. 

 

Debating selling my LOM 1200 towards a Digital Wood Carver CNC 4 axis machine. 

 

Michael

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 11:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Yes Michael, but at least you post the odd comment that is something and that 
is ok, if I was the moderator of this group unless each member posted at least 
4 posts a year I would kick them off the group, that’s only one posting every 3 
months surly that’s not too much to ask someone just to say something every 12 
weeks even if its just hi I’m still alive and out there. out of those 518 
members just how many are actually reading our postings I bet its way less than 
518 hell even bitching like I am now at least that would be something lol. 
People out there don’t know how close this group has come to shutting down due 
to inactivity at times if it wasn’t for the dedication of a small devoted few 
it would have been gone long ago

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 3:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Admittedly I’m one of them but as avid turner and woodworker for over 6 decades 
I simply don’t use my 1200 LOM that I bought in 2004.

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 10:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

518 that’s terrible and only 4 or 5 of us post disgusting 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 1:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

You guys are  both right, except. OUR LOM users Group is now at 


Legacy Ornamental Mills


518 members.   

Sadly most of our member's just read the postings and no longer post to the 
group, except when in need, or when they want to get rid of there machines. ;-(

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 06:54:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Yup and we just have to keep the fire burning. I speak of mine regularly at the 

Business Net work group I belong too. I do have a guy wants to come up from the 
cities 

when I'm running it. I get a lot of interest and comments but yeah they are a 
limited group.

Of course coming into the game late I caught the fever bad.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:07 AM  wrote:

What you say is true curt and even fewer people use the mills they have judging 
by how many people post their projects on this group we have like 200 or more 
people in this group and only a half dozen or so post projects here its no 
wonder legacy stopped making manual mills and their parts its our fault all 
mills should be in the hundreds now not over a thousand just because they were 
worth heaps in their day doesn’t mean you will get anything like that now we 
are living in bad times now these days the router that runs the mill is almost 
worth more than the mill is.

RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the internet

[Michael Kratky]

Agree Bill,

 

Off to a live Western Mass Woodturners Guild meeting this evening, the 1st one 
since all this COVID BS started almost 2 years ago, hopefully it’ll take off a  
few bricks from my anti social wall. The other good news they should all be 
jovial because pot stores (not the kitchen variety) are now legal in 
Massachusetts but coming soon to a store near you here in NY State. 

 

Debating selling my LOM 1200 towards a Digital Wood Carver CNC 4 axis machine. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 11:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Yes Michael, but at least you post the odd comment that is something and that 
is ok, if I was the moderator of this group unless each member posted at least 
4 posts a year I would kick them off the group, that’s only one posting every 3 
months surly that’s not too much to ask someone just to say something every 12 
weeks even if its just hi I’m still alive and out there. out of those 518 
members just how many are actually reading our postings I bet its way less than 
518 hell even bitching like I am now at least that would be something lol. 
People out there don’t know how close this group has come to shutting down due 
to inactivity at times if it wasn’t for the dedication of a small devoted few 
it would have been gone long ago

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 3:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Admittedly I’m one of them but as avid turner and woodworker for over 6 decades 
I simply don’t use my 1200 LOM that I bought in 2004.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 10:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

518 that’s terrible and only 4 or 5 of us post disgusting 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 1:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

You guys are  both right, except. OUR LOM users Group is now at 


Legacy Ornamental Mills


518 members.   

Sadly most of our member's just read the postings and no longer post to the 
group, except when in need, or when they want to get rid of there machines. ;-(

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 06:54:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Yup and we just have to keep the fire burning. I speak of mine regularly at the 

Business Net work group I belong too. I do have a guy wants to come up from the 
cities 

when I'm running it. I get a lot of interest and comments but yeah they are a 
limited group.

Of course coming into the game late I caught the fever bad.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:07 AM  wrote:

What you say is true curt and even fewer people use the mills they have judging 
by how many people post their projects on this group we have like 200 or more 
people in this group and only a half dozen or so post projects here its no 
wonder legacy stopped making manual mills and their parts its our fault all 
mills should be in the hundreds now not over a thousand just because they were 
worth heaps in their day doesn’t mean you will get anything like that now we 
are living in bad times now these days the router that runs the mill is almost 
worth more than the mill is.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 4:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Nice work Jeff.  Thank you.

 

 

I'm surprised at the prices.  All are nice machines, but sadly I think most 
will not sell.  The Legacy (LOM) is a very small market.  

At this time the people who own woodworking Lathe's, Are into either into 
making Bowls, and or Pen's, Unless furniture or antique restoration person is 
looking for a new machine, or has a job to do, most people will not want to 
spend the money to make spindles. (even if they are fancy ones.)

And the OT (Ornamental turners) are Just not interested in the Legacy's, For 
there own reasons. 

 

But for me and (I think) most of this group, Do enjoy looking at the machines. 
So again I thank you.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Mo

RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the internet

[Michael Kratky]

Admittedly I’m one of them but as avid turner and woodworker for over 6 decades 
I simply don’t use my 1200 LOM that I bought in 2004.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 10:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

518 that’s terrible and only 4 or 5 of us post disgusting 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 1:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

You guys are  both right, except. OUR LOM users Group is now at 


Legacy Ornamental Mills


518 members.   

Sadly most of our member's just read the postings and no longer post to the 
group, except when in need, or when they want to get rid of there machines. ;-(

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 06:54:29 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Yup and we just have to keep the fire burning. I speak of mine regularly at the 

Business Net work group I belong too. I do have a guy wants to come up from the 
cities 

when I'm running it. I get a lot of interest and comments but yeah they are a 
limited group.

Of course coming into the game late I caught the fever bad.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:07 AM  wrote:

What you say is true curt and even fewer people use the mills they have judging 
by how many people post their projects on this group we have like 200 or more 
people in this group and only a half dozen or so post projects here its no 
wonder legacy stopped making manual mills and their parts its our fault all 
mills should be in the hundreds now not over a thousand just because they were 
worth heaps in their day doesn’t mean you will get anything like that now we 
are living in bad times now these days the router that runs the mill is almost 
worth more than the mill is.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 4:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few Legacy Ornamental Mill Models currently for sale on the 
internet

 

Nice work Jeff.  Thank you.

 

 

I'm surprised at the prices.  All are nice machines, but sadly I think most 
will not sell.  The Legacy (LOM) is a very small market.  

At this time the people who own woodworking Lathe's, Are into either into 
making Bowls, and or Pen's, Unless furniture or antique restoration person is 
looking for a new machine, or has a job to do, most people will not want to 
spend the money to make spindles. (even if they are fancy ones.)

And the OT (Ornamental turners) are Just not interested in the Legacy's, For 
there own reasons. 

 

But for me and (I think) most of this group, Do enjoy looking at the machines. 
So again I thank you.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, December 6, 2021, 06:56:38 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

This is just a general awareness email to the group on Legacy mills currently 
for sale.

 

I browse from time to time on the internet for an accessory that may be 
available for my Legacy 900 manual model but in doing so I bump into other 
complete machines. I thought I would share in case anyone else is looking for 
one of these.

 

These are just links to the related ads, please do not contact me for 
information regarding them. I am hopeful that someone may find this useful. 
Good Luck.

 

Woodchuck IRT

Legacy Ornamental Lathe / Milling Machine IRT-33 | eBay 
 

 

Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 

 

 

Model 1800?

CNC Legacy Mill Router with Software, parts and Bits Slightly USED | eBay 
 

 

Unidentified Models

Legacy Ornamental Lathe / Milling Machine with Porter-Cable 3-1/4 HP Router | 
eBay 
 

 

Legacy Ornamental Milling Systems  

 & Accessories - Holiday Ornaments - Rowlett, Texas | Facebook Marketplace | 
Facebook

 

LEGACY ORNAMENTAL MILL - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 

 

 

Phantom Legacy Ornamental Milling System with Router - tools - by... 
(craigslist.org) 

RE: sharpening your router bit

[Michael Kratky]

I like it also although expensive it does go a long way, I often use Windex 
Window Cleaner in a pinch which works just fine.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: sharpening your router bit

 

Ok guys I was sharpening a couple of forsner bits today using esy lap Dimond 
sharpeners an it occurred to me I don’t think I ever showed what lapping fluid 
I use, trend Dimond abrasive lapping fluid  I really like this stuff the Dimond 
sharpeners cut better with a few drops on it and don’t clog up and stop the 
cutting like kero or water or gas seems too

us legacy users have to constantly touch up our router bits.so we need 
something good. What do all you guys use?

 

Bill

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RE: easy round turning stock prep

[Michael Kratky]

Bill, amazing isn’t it the things we’ve done for decades without thinking twice 
about it now everyone is reading our minds and making videos.

“Those who can, do; those who can't, teach”.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 1:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: easy round turning stock prep

 

I know that tip too very handy and quick to remove wood to prepare a blank for 
the legacy

Or wood lathe but I have never seen a video on it thanks Michael 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2021 12:00 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: easy round turning stock prep

 

So easy on a table saw to make an octagon spindle 1st before I throw it on the 
lathe or LOM, many times I go with the octagon as part of the design.

 

>From my good friend Tom Mclaughlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEV-xZYaJ0

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 8:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

I do so many chair spindle repairs etc... and now I have been turning my LOM 
blanks round.

so much quicker then LOM method.  I have the adapter so I just move it from my 
PM to LOM

no loss of center point that way. Works really great. 

I have the shopsmith duplicator too but have not used that for a while now. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:43 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Thought it looked vintage, they work well the last time I used mine was a few 
years back when I cranked out a batch of French rolling pins which I still have 
several of for ill fated craft fairs (another subject for another day). 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 8:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

Yes Sir, a 1992 vintage model (lol) with new mounting brackets from Vega. 

Bought it from Rollie. 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:03 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Tim is that the Vega Lathe Duplicator you used in the center image?

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2021 10:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM  wrote:

Looks like it works really well on diamond patterns too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

HI Tim

 

I got a few hour in today, before I needed to go to work.

the roping index works, there are some small error (Human error) that I made 
today/ learning curve. ;-p

Here are some photos.

 

ON the roping index test, the stop sloped some, giving me one cut that was 
wider then the others. 

 

I still have some work to do on this , but so far I am pretty happy with how 
this method is going, 

 

any suggestions, or comments are , always welcome.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 02:58:22 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Looks pretty exciting. Are you going to do a small video on it too?

I have a couple hours of work then I'm going to play some more. Unless 
something else comes up. lol

Thanks for defining the process your experimenting. I'm looking forward to you 
moving forward and creating

projects with it. 

More later. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:04 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

Here is my New roping method. Its still in it design mode, but so far its 
worked out for me.

The idea is to make the indexing of the Legacy for roping more simple. 

This is what I did. I set up a rope cut, (pitch, router bit...) and then added 
this new indexing head onto my Legacy. 

There are two d

easy round turning stock prep

[Michael Kratky]

So easy on a table saw to make an octagon spindle 1st before I throw it on the 
lathe or LOM, many times I go with the octagon as part of the design.

 

>From my good friend Tom Mclaughlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEV-xZYaJ0

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 8:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

I do so many chair spindle repairs etc... and now I have been turning my LOM 
blanks round.

so much quicker then LOM method.  I have the adapter so I just move it from my 
PM to LOM

no loss of center point that way. Works really great. 

I have the shopsmith duplicator too but have not used that for a while now. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:43 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Thought it looked vintage, they work well the last time I used mine was a few 
years back when I cranked out a batch of French rolling pins which I still have 
several of for ill fated craft fairs (another subject for another day). 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 8:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

Yes Sir, a 1992 vintage model (lol) with new mounting brackets from Vega. 

Bought it from Rollie. 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:03 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Tim is that the Vega Lathe Duplicator you used in the center image?

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2021 10:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM  wrote:

Looks like it works really well on diamond patterns too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

HI Tim

 

I got a few hour in today, before I needed to go to work.

the roping index works, there are some small error (Human error) that I made 
today/ learning curve. ;-p

Here are some photos.

 

ON the roping index test, the stop sloped some, giving me one cut that was 
wider then the others. 

 

I still have some work to do on this , but so far I am pretty happy with how 
this method is going, 

 

any suggestions, or comments are , always welcome.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 02:58:22 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Looks pretty exciting. Are you going to do a small video on it too?

I have a couple hours of work then I'm going to play some more. Unless 
something else comes up. lol

Thanks for defining the process your experimenting. I'm looking forward to you 
moving forward and creating

projects with it. 

More later. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:04 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

Here is my New roping method. Its still in it design mode, but so far its 
worked out for me.

The idea is to make the indexing of the Legacy for roping more simple. 

This is what I did. I set up a rope cut, (pitch, router bit...) and then added 
this new indexing head onto my Legacy. 

There are two disks, one a 3 start, and one a 4 start. The indexing pin mounts 
onto the Legacy's headstock.

 

Now how did I use it.

I mounted the roping head and plate onto the Legacy, made sure the indexing pin 
was on top. Set my stops.

And then made my first cut.

After the first cut , I brought my carriage back to the starting point. 
Re-wound the gears so that the indexing pin was again on top , also made sure 
the first cut (starting point/cut) lines up with the router bit. Then pull the 
pin and turn the spindle to the next index. then cut again.  

Repeating the process until I have the rope I want. (3 or 4 index's.)  

 

The key is to make sure the pin in on top, and the starting cut lines up. (I 
used for my alinement /the previses cut, not the first cut. Although I do not 
know if it really matters? as long as the starting point and the indexing pin 

RE: End of the Summer/Labor Day

[Michael Kratky]

Thought it looked vintage, they work well the last time I used mine was a few 
years back when I cranked out a batch of French rolling pins which I still have 
several of for ill fated craft fairs (another subject for another day). 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2021 8:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

Yes Sir, a 1992 vintage model (lol) with new mounting brackets from Vega. 

Bought it from Rollie. 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:03 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Tim is that the Vega Lathe Duplicator you used in the center image?

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2021 10:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM  wrote:

Looks like it works really well on diamond patterns too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

HI Tim

 

I got a few hour in today, before I needed to go to work.

the roping index works, there are some small error (Human error) that I made 
today/ learning curve. ;-p

Here are some photos.

 

ON the roping index test, the stop sloped some, giving me one cut that was 
wider then the others. 

 

I still have some work to do on this , but so far I am pretty happy with how 
this method is going, 

 

any suggestions, or comments are , always welcome.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 02:58:22 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Looks pretty exciting. Are you going to do a small video on it too?

I have a couple hours of work then I'm going to play some more. Unless 
something else comes up. lol

Thanks for defining the process your experimenting. I'm looking forward to you 
moving forward and creating

projects with it. 

More later. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:04 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

Here is my New roping method. Its still in it design mode, but so far its 
worked out for me.

The idea is to make the indexing of the Legacy for roping more simple. 

This is what I did. I set up a rope cut, (pitch, router bit...) and then added 
this new indexing head onto my Legacy. 

There are two disks, one a 3 start, and one a 4 start. The indexing pin mounts 
onto the Legacy's headstock.

 

Now how did I use it.

I mounted the roping head and plate onto the Legacy, made sure the indexing pin 
was on top. Set my stops.

And then made my first cut.

After the first cut , I brought my carriage back to the starting point. 
Re-wound the gears so that the indexing pin was again on top , also made sure 
the first cut (starting point/cut) lines up with the router bit. Then pull the 
pin and turn the spindle to the next index. then cut again.  

Repeating the process until I have the rope I want. (3 or 4 index's.)  

 

The key is to make sure the pin in on top, and the starting cut lines up. (I 
used for my alinement /the previses cut, not the first cut. Although I do not 
know if it really matters? as long as the starting point and the indexing pin 
lines up.) IT WORKS! ;-)

 

Now I've only made a few test cuts, but so far its working.

Here are some pix. I hope this makes since to you.

 

I have some more testing to do on this method...

 

More on this topic latter. 

 

I have a lot more testing to do today. 

 

I hope you all are enjoying your Holladay as much as I am.  

 

Making saw dust.   ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:28:23 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Hello Tim

 

Keep that Saw Dust coming!  I know if you make a chance to play, there will be 
a world of possibility's out there for you. I cant wait to see what you come up 
with!

 

I too, Hope to get some time in the shop today, I have some plans that I want 
to work with.  

Like this topic, Roping. I have some ideas that I want to work with/try. that 
and re-designing my, front faced template follower for my Legacy, is something 
that I want to do.

 

We will see.  Today is a Holladay/A day off form work, (But I'm still on call.) 
If all goe

RE: End of the Summer/Labor Day

[Michael Kratky]

Tim is that the Vega Lathe Duplicator you used in the center image?

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2021 10:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 8:55 PM  wrote:

Looks like it works really well on diamond patterns too

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: End of the Summer/Labor Day

 

HI Tim

 

I got a few hour in today, before I needed to go to work.

the roping index works, there are some small error (Human error) that I made 
today/ learning curve. ;-p

Here are some photos.

 

ON the roping index test, the stop sloped some, giving me one cut that was 
wider then the others. 

 

I still have some work to do on this , but so far I am pretty happy with how 
this method is going, 

 

any suggestions, or comments are , always welcome.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 02:58:22 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Looks pretty exciting. Are you going to do a small video on it too?

I have a couple hours of work then I'm going to play some more. Unless 
something else comes up. lol

Thanks for defining the process your experimenting. I'm looking forward to you 
moving forward and creating

projects with it. 

More later. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:04 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

Here is my New roping method. Its still in it design mode, but so far its 
worked out for me.

The idea is to make the indexing of the Legacy for roping more simple. 

This is what I did. I set up a rope cut, (pitch, router bit...) and then added 
this new indexing head onto my Legacy. 

There are two disks, one a 3 start, and one a 4 start. The indexing pin mounts 
onto the Legacy's headstock.

 

Now how did I use it.

I mounted the roping head and plate onto the Legacy, made sure the indexing pin 
was on top. Set my stops.

And then made my first cut.

After the first cut , I brought my carriage back to the starting point. 
Re-wound the gears so that the indexing pin was again on top , also made sure 
the first cut (starting point/cut) lines up with the router bit. Then pull the 
pin and turn the spindle to the next index. then cut again.  

Repeating the process until I have the rope I want. (3 or 4 index's.)  

 

The key is to make sure the pin in on top, and the starting cut lines up. (I 
used for my alinement /the previses cut, not the first cut. Although I do not 
know if it really matters? as long as the starting point and the indexing pin 
lines up.) IT WORKS! ;-)

 

Now I've only made a few test cuts, but so far its working.

Here are some pix. I hope this makes since to you.

 

I have some more testing to do on this method...

 

More on this topic latter. 

 

I have a lot more testing to do today. 

 

I hope you all are enjoying your Holladay as much as I am.  

 

Making saw dust.   ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:28:23 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Hello Tim

 

Keep that Saw Dust coming!  I know if you make a chance to play, there will be 
a world of possibility's out there for you. I cant wait to see what you come up 
with!

 

I too, Hope to get some time in the shop today, I have some plans that I want 
to work with.  

Like this topic, Roping. I have some ideas that I want to work with/try. that 
and re-designing my, front faced template follower for my Legacy, is something 
that I want to do.

 

We will see.  Today is a Holladay/A day off form work, (But I'm still on call.) 
If all goes well today, It should be  a good day, to relax and play in the 
shop. ;-)

 

Take care everyone.

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, September 6, 2021, 07:19:11 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Glad to have you back in and getting some good topics going. Hope all had a 
great summer as well.

And truly hope you enjoyed your time away to unwind, regroup and just enjoy 
life. thanks for the shout out. 

 

I did some testing on my WoodChuck just this weekend actually. Was some simple 
crank handle indexing. 

was total experimenting nothing worth pix but I'd installed a new router on it 
a few weeks back after

I'd made a new router plate. 

I think I'll chuck up a piece of pine on there today and do some playing. 

>From there I hear the LOM 1200 calling out pretty loud too. 

RE: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

[Michael Kratky]

Mac,

I was referencing the dado jig that was posted about the same time, too many 
jigs and emails the same time while I’m juggling electrical contractors and 
utility companies.

 

Now compare the Festool Domino 
(https://www.amazon.com/Festool-574432-Domino-Joiner-500/dp/B004SETSXE) and the 
Rockler Beadlock floating tendon systems 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyk4xOMm1bg 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyk4xOMm1bg=6s> =6s) for $1000 price 
difference that accomplishes the same thing, note the gal that does the 
comparison made me clean my glassesJ.

 

Michael Kratky

Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 

Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 

NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

theinspect...@roadrunner.com

(518) 863-8800 ofc

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 11:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

Michael,

I've never seen the Woodpeck pen jig/tool you mentioned.

I searched their site - no joy there.

By chance, do you have a pic of it?

Thanks.

Mac

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-Original Message-

From: 

Sent: Aug 31, 2021 9:21 AM

To: 

Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

Hey Michael,

I'll have to look that one up too. I'm a big WoodPecker fan.

I don't own everything but many practical items for sure. Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 7:50 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Woodpeckers sold that tool awhile back for much more $$.

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler

Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:31 PM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

 

Hey Bill,

 

 

Yeah possibly you could.

 

I think that gadget I found, you can hold the parts and might be a bit

 

safer, but hey where there's a will there's alway a way right.

 

I'm not sure I'd get it either as I have a small parts sled by Rockler

 

that I really like for that.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

 

14171 160th Ave.

 

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

 

320-294-5798 shop

 

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 5:45 PM  wrote:

 

I’m wondering if this tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWrZsQtHyA 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWrZsQtHyA_channel=Ding%27sWorkshop%E8%80%81%E8%9E%BA%E5%B7%A5%E5%9D%8A>
 _channel=Ding%27sWorkshop%E8%80%81%E8%9E%BA%E5%B7%A5%E5%9D%8A

 

Could be made to do the same thing I have one of these nice tool too, maybe it 
could be adapted to cut pen blanks as well.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler

Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 5:10 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

 

Thanks Mac,

 

 

Yeah Bill maybe trying to sell them over there too. lol

 

sounds like he's using 3D printing to make some of the parts.

 

Pretty cool for sure.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

 

14171 160th Ave.

 

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

 

320-294-5798 shop

 

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:50 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

 

Tim,

A pretty neat jig! (Strange knob he's got on the top for tightening the slider 
up. Looks like a piece out of an old-fashioned pencil sharpener.

)

I bet that "Down Under Bill" has already built himself one after seeing your 
email!

LoL!

 

Thanks for sharing. (Tfs)

Mac

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: 

Sent: Aug 30, 2021 2:31 PM

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

Hey LOM group,

 

 

I was randomly going through some market place and come across this jig,

 

which is actually sold on Etsy and here is the link he had posted.

 

The jig looks pretty innovative.

 

I told Jason the guy that sells these I would run them past the LOM group so

 

here it is.

 

 

 

https://www.etsy.com/listing/944099636/pen-blank-bandsaw-cutting-jig

 

 

 

Please let me know your thoughts for you that turn pens.

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

 

 

Tim J. Ziegler

 

Ziegler Woodwork & Specialty

 

14171 160th Ave.

 

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

 

320-294-5798 shop

 

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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RE: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

[Michael Kratky]

Woodpeckers sold that tool awhile back for much more $$$.

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

Hey Bill,

 

Yeah possibly you could. 

I think that gadget I found, you can hold the parts and might be a bit

safer, but hey where there's a will there's alway a way right. 

I'm not sure I'd get it either as I have a small parts sled by Rockler

that I really like for that. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 5:45 PM  wrote:

I’m wondering if this tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWrZsQtHyA 

 _channel=Ding%27sWorkshop%E8%80%81%E8%9E%BA%E5%B7%A5%E5%9D%8A

 

Could be made to do the same thing I have one of these nice tool too, maybe it 
could be adapted to cut pen blanks as well.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 5:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig

 

Thanks Mac, 

 

Yeah Bill maybe trying to sell them over there too. lol

sounds like he's using 3D printing to make some of the parts. 

Pretty cool for sure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:50 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

A pretty neat jig!  (Strange knob he's got on the top for tightening the slider 
up.  Looks like a piece out of an old-fashioned pencil sharpener.

)

I bet that "Down Under Bill" has already built himself one after seeing your 
email!

LoL!

 

Thanks for sharing. (Tfs)

Mac


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-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Aug 30, 2021 2:31 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Pen Barrel Cutting Jig


Hey  LOM group, 

 

I was randomly going through some market place and come across this jig, 

which is actually sold on Etsy and here is the link he had posted. 

The jig looks pretty innovative. 

I told Jason the guy that sells these I would run them past the LOM group so

here it is.

 

https://www.etsy.com/listing/944099636/pen-blank-bandsaw-cutting-jig

 

Please let me know your thoughts for you that turn pens. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler Woodwork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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RE: Knees shot

[Michael Kratky]

No simple cause just at age 72 life caught up to me interesting thing is that I 
still work as an electrical inspector on construction sites but the Ortho 
Doctor won’t fill out the disability forms saying I’m not disabled and I should 
ask my employer for light duty.

 

Michael

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 12:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Knees shot

 

I'm sorry to hear you are in pain.  I am Also sorry to tell you that I know 
nothing in this topic that can help.

Except, your stance with the lathe is good, if it wasn't, your back would be 
feeling the  pain. ;-)

 

Hope you feel better soon!

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, August 16, 2021, 10:10:15 AM EDT, Michael Kratky 
 wrote: 

 

 

Was turning all weekend getting ready for a Show we’re hosting this weekend as 
part of local Arts Festival now my knees are killing me and kept me up all 
night any recommendations? 

Do those Copper Fit knee braces help?

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ???

 

lol just got to thank him and move on Bill. Right?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 4:50 PM  wrote:

Shopping I make lots of new friends I’m always asking for someone to pass me 
something lol my worst one was I dropped my phone the other day Grocery 
shopping and a guy way older than me picked it up off the floor hand handed it 
too me ☹ that sux 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2021 11:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ???

 

Not to mention just a simple thing like putting on or tying your shoes, 
climbing, stairs, scaffolding or shopping items on the lower shelves; no 
complaining just an observation. 

 

Greeting from the 6,000,000 acre NY State Adirondack Park; home of the poor, 
playground of the rich.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 3:15 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ???

 

Yes about the only thing we can do about getting older is laugh about it 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2021 1:20 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ???

 

This made my wife and I laugh!! Nice one,

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:21 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

oh thats to funny. lol

Did my pix come in for you yet?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:19 PM  wrote:

   isn’t this the truth lololololol

 

Bill

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RE: Knees shot

[Michael Kratky]

You don’t have to go out of your way to boil corn for me I like it in bread, on 
the cob, creamed, just as long as there’s lots of butter with itFunny corn 
cartoon styles vectors Free vector in Encapsulated PostScript eps ( .eps ) 
vector illustration graphic art design format format for free download 317.10KB.

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 2:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Knees shot

 

Oh he saw you coming right. 

I have plenty of corn bought for my corn boiler so I promise I could keep you 
warm while 

you stay. Maybe even start the boiler in the house if it gets below 20 or so. 
lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 12:56 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy, 

 

It’s a deal, don’t throw out any scrap wood may need it for heat by the time I 
make it out your way, actually went to an Orthopedic specialist last week in 
Saratoga Springs which was a joke waiting 2 hours for 3 minutes of his time who 
said the joints are bone against bone but wanted me to come back for cortisone 
shots then therapy and possible knee replacement in 8-9 months as he’s 
handcuffed by insurance regulations.  

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:26 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Knees shot

 

Hey Michael,

 

I don't know anything about the knee braces but know we have an incredible 
Chiropractor/Physical Therapist 

here in Milaca that is incredible.  Sure would be a good excuse to come to 
minnesota lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:12 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Was turning all weekend getting ready for a Show we’re hosting this weekend as 
part of local Arts Festival now my knees are killing me and kept me up all 
night any recommendations? 

Do those Copper Fit knee braces help?

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ???

 

lol just got to thank him and move on Bill. Right?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 4:50 PM  wrote:

Shopping I make lots of new friends I’m always asking for someone to pass me 
something lol my worst one was I dropped my phone the other day Grocery 
shopping and a guy way older than me picked it up off the floor hand handed it 
too me ☹ that sux 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2021 11:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ???

 

Not to mention just a simple thing like putting on or tying your shoes, 
climbing, stairs, scaffolding or shopping items on the lower shelves; no 
complaining just an observation. 

 

Greeting from the 6,000,000 acre NY State Adirondack Park; home of the poor, 
playground of the rich.

 

Michael

 

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Yes about the only thing we can do about getting older is laugh about it 

 

Bill

 

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This made my wife and I laugh!! Nice one,

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:21 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

oh thats to funny. lol

Did my pix come in for you yet?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:19 PM  wrote:

   isn’t this the truth lololololol

 

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RE: Knees shot

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy, 

 

It’s a deal, don’t throw out any scrap wood may need it for heat by the time I 
make it out your way, actually went to an Orthopedic specialist last week in 
Saratoga Springs which was a joke waiting 2 hours for 3 minutes of his time who 
said the joints are bone against bone but wanted me to come back for cortisone 
shots then therapy and possible knee replacement in 8-9 months as he’s 
handcuffed by insurance regulations.  

 

Michael

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Knees shot

 

Hey Michael,

 

I don't know anything about the knee braces but know we have an incredible 
Chiropractor/Physical Therapist 

here in Milaca that is incredible.  Sure would be a good excuse to come to 
minnesota lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:12 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Was turning all weekend getting ready for a Show we’re hosting this weekend as 
part of local Arts Festival now my knees are killing me and kept me up all 
night any recommendations? 

Do those Copper Fit knee braces help?

 

Michael

 

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lol just got to thank him and move on Bill. Right?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 4:50 PM  wrote:

Shopping I make lots of new friends I’m always asking for someone to pass me 
something lol my worst one was I dropped my phone the other day Grocery 
shopping and a guy way older than me picked it up off the floor hand handed it 
too me ☹ that sux 

Bill

 

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Subject: RE: ???

 

Not to mention just a simple thing like putting on or tying your shoes, 
climbing, stairs, scaffolding or shopping items on the lower shelves; no 
complaining just an observation. 

 

Greeting from the 6,000,000 acre NY State Adirondack Park; home of the poor, 
playground of the rich.

 

Michael

 

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Yes about the only thing we can do about getting older is laugh about it 

 

Bill

 

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This made my wife and I laugh!! Nice one,

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:21 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

oh thats to funny. lol

Did my pix come in for you yet?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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   isn’t this the truth lololololol

 

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Knees shot

[Michael Kratky]

Was turning all weekend getting ready for a Show we’re hosting this weekend as 
part of local Arts Festival now my knees are killing me and kept me up all 
night any recommendations? 

Do those Copper Fit knee braces help?

 

Michael

 

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lol just got to thank him and move on Bill. Right?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 4:50 PM  wrote:

Shopping I make lots of new friends I’m always asking for someone to pass me 
something lol my worst one was I dropped my phone the other day Grocery 
shopping and a guy way older than me picked it up off the floor hand handed it 
too me ☹ that sux 

Bill

 

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Subject: RE: ???

 

Not to mention just a simple thing like putting on or tying your shoes, 
climbing, stairs, scaffolding or shopping items on the lower shelves; no 
complaining just an observation. 

 

Greeting from the 6,000,000 acre NY State Adirondack Park; home of the poor, 
playground of the rich.

 

Michael

 

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Yes about the only thing we can do about getting older is laugh about it 

 

Bill

 

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This made my wife and I laugh!! Nice one,

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:21 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

oh thats to funny. lol

Did my pix come in for you yet?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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   isn’t this the truth lololololol

 

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RE: ???

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Not to mention just a simple thing like putting on or tying your shoes, 
climbing, stairs, scaffolding or shopping items on the lower shelves; no 
complaining just an observation. 

 

Greeting from the 6,000,000 acre NY State Adirondack Park; home of the poor, 
playground of the rich.

 

Michael

 

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Yes about the only thing we can do about getting older is laugh about it 

 

Bill

 

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This made my wife and I laugh!! Nice one,

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:21 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

oh thats to funny. lol

Did my pix come in for you yet?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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   isn’t this the truth lololololol

 

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RE: Carter MultiRest

[Michael Kratky]

As Tim said don’t know how you’d set it up on a Legacy as my 1200 sits in a 
storage, but on my Powermatic  4224B the Carter Muli Rest is indispensible as I 
do a lot of hollow forms, vases, walking canes, spindles and newel posts.

 

Wet July here in the Adirondacks over 7 inches of rain so far compared to the 
average of 2.

 

Michael

 

 

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Good morning Bill,

 

For as long as that's been out this is really the first time I really took a 
good look at it and I'd say several things 

came to mind when I first saw it but several of those opinions immediately 
changed as I continued to watch the video. 

It looks way more robust and stable then I first imaged and the ease of 
adjusting was impressive. At first I thought, ``Why is it so big

But soon into the demo I began to see that in order to fit lathes like mine and 
to have any capacity it needed to be that large. 

Looks like 80-20 aluminum extrusion or very close to it. Very robust and solid 
in that respect too. Now I typically use a small support

coming in from the back and I thought that thing is going to be in the way, 
BUT... when he removed the front 2/3rds of the Carter Steady

rest I really began seeing some serious uses. I love the adjustability and 
capability to add support arms and move them where needed..

The unit looks extremely solid and robust, super function and easy to adjust 
and use. Carter has a very good reputation and 

I would say that this steady rest has been seriously thought out. Dont know 
that it would work on the legacy but it sure would 

work on my PM4224B 

Bill I would say it would be a keeper and has me considering maybe my little 
shop smith modified steady rest should go back to the 

shopsmith and its time to consider upgrading. 

What was the price tag I did not look that up?

In my eyes and my opinion only I think it's a great investment for anyone who 
does some serious turning. Or just wants something good. lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 3:08 AM  wrote:

Ok all you wood lathe turners in the group please what is your opinion on this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdJhtIJKIaw 
 
_channel=CPVideosforCP

 

the Carter Multi-Rest™ Work Support Systemplease even you who don’t post much I 
want to know your opinions. better still anyone who owns one is it good or bad 
? what do you all think

 

Bill

 

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RE: Carter MultiRest

[Michael Kratky]

 

Bill,

Excellent, used it for years.

 

Michael

 

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Subject: Carter MultiRest

 

Ok all you wood lathe turners in the group please what is your opinion on this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdJhtIJKIaw 
 
_channel=CPVideosforCP

 

the Carter Multi-Rest™ Work Support Systemplease even you who don’t post much I 
want to know your opinions. better still anyone who owns one is it good or bad 
? what do you all think

 

Bill

 

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RE: jam Chuck/small parts

[Michael Kratky]

That’s the one I mentioned.

 

 

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Subject: Re: jam Chuck/small parts

 

https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/101/4400/apprentice-Collet-Chuck-7-Piece-Set?term=collet+chuck
 
<https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/101/4400/apprentice-Collet-Chuck-7-Piece-Set?term=collet+chuck=collet%20chuck>
 =collet%20chuck

 

Heres another one I found?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

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Foreston MN 56330

 

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320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 9:21 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Tim,

 

A pen mandrel won’t help you unless your blanks are hollow, pretty much for pen 
turning that I got away from years ago. 

I do a lot of small parts spindle turning; finials, knobs, Christmas ornaments, 
magic wands, chisel and tool handles, coffee scoop, Penn State Industries has 
the best assortment of accessories for that, specifically a collett chuck comes 
in handy.

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

 

Michael Kratky

Black Bear Art  Studios 

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

krat...@roadrunner.com

(518) 863-2821

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:29 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: jam Chuck/small parts

 

Hey LOM people,

 

question and would like to get some serious input here. 

 

1. I do not have a pen mandrel set as of yet but have great intensions of 
getting a set. 

More then likely would be Woodpecker's, set up (made in good old USA) or Crafts 
Supply USA has some pretty good stuff. So not looking for direction on that but 
am looking for 

what some refer to as jamb Chucks, or small parts chucks. I also have the Ease 
Wood Chuck which is great but usually puts crimps or dents in the material. 

I also am not necessarily turning pens but small parts Final's, little spindles 
etc...

So am truly looking for pix and explanations of what others are using. Yes we 
may have discussed this in the past but I want a fresh take on it and lets see 
what other's are using. 

 

Thanks for any feed back. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

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RE: jam Chuck/small parts

[Michael Kratky]

Craft supplies has one with a 1 ¼” spindle adaptor for your Powermatic 4224B

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 12:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jam Chuck/small parts

 

Thanks Bill, very useful and gearing toward what I was asking. 

That Collet Chuck looks like one of the tickets for sure. I will begin pricing 
those too again possibly through 

Crafts Supplies USA aka woodturner catolog. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 11:09 PM  wrote:

Something like these can be used on the legacy with a lathe chuck to hold small 
work.

 

http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articles/ColletAdaptor/ColletAdaptor.pdf

 

or machine able soft jaws  

 

or even a  Jacobs chuck in the headstock.. also most of this guys ideas can be 
adapted to the legacy I feel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAm3PO87fI 
 
_channel=MikePeaceWoodturning

 

 

 

just to name a few

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 18 July 2021 11:29 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: jam Chuck/small parts

 

Hey LOM people,

 

question and would like to get some serious input here. 

 

1. I do not have a pen mandrel set as of yet but have great intensions of 
getting a set. 

More then likely would be Woodpecker's, set up (made in good old USA) or Crafts 
Supply USA has some pretty good stuff. So not looking for direction on that but 
am looking for 

what some refer to as jamb Chucks, or small parts chucks. I also have the Ease 
Wood Chuck which is great but usually puts crimps or dents in the material. 

I also am not necessarily turning pens but small parts Final's, little spindles 
etc...

So am truly looking for pix and explanations of what others are using. Yes we 
may have discussed this in the past but I want a fresh take on it and lets see 
what other's are using. 

 

Thanks for any feed back. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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RE: jam Chuck/small parts

[Michael Kratky]

Tim,

 

A pen mandrel won’t help you unless your blanks are hollow, pretty much for pen 
turning that I got away from years ago. 

I do a lot of small parts spindle turning; finials, knobs, Christmas ornaments, 
magic wands, chisel and tool handles, coffee scoop, Penn State Industries has 
the best assortment of accessories for that, specifically a collett chuck comes 
in handy.

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCDOWEL.html

 

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Northville, NY 12134

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(518) 863-2821

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:29 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: jam Chuck/small parts

 

Hey LOM people,

 

question and would like to get some serious input here. 

 

1. I do not have a pen mandrel set as of yet but have great intensions of 
getting a set. 

More then likely would be Woodpecker's, set up (made in good old USA) or Crafts 
Supply USA has some pretty good stuff. So not looking for direction on that but 
am looking for 

what some refer to as jamb Chucks, or small parts chucks. I also have the Ease 
Wood Chuck which is great but usually puts crimps or dents in the material. 

I also am not necessarily turning pens but small parts Final's, little spindles 
etc...

So am truly looking for pix and explanations of what others are using. Yes we 
may have discussed this in the past but I want a fresh take on it and lets see 
what other's are using. 

 

Thanks for any feed back. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler 

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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RE: the cold

[Michael Kratky]

Cold is cold but heat tolerance has everything to do with the relative 
humidity. 

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 2:20 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the cold

 

Yea it depends on climate I guess lol where 95 to 104F is our summer which is 
in December January lol horses for courses is the old saying isn’t it 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2021 3:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the cold

 

Hello Bill

 

I had to look it up. -4C is 24 deg. F.  

I have to smile, that is just fall temp.'s for  us.  (Just kidding,) 24 deg. is 
cold. but we get much colder. Temp. around 0 F. -17C is normal in Jan-Feb . But 
 Tim Z. will see -40F which is -40.0C too.   Pretty neat! ;-)

 

Try to stay worm.  

 

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, July 9, 2021, 09:09:09 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

Just cant bring my self to go out in my un heated shop yet,

Here is a pic 2 hours ago from my front gate looking at my house in the 
distance still frost on the ground -4C this morning br I know nothing like 
you guys get but to my old aussi bones it cold.

 

Bill

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RE: the cold

[Michael Kratky]

Just saw that month of June was the hottest on record here in the northeast by 
4°F

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 6:41 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the cold

 

We've had a lot of the 90's this year already so right now at the time I got up 
it was 50, free airconditioning there. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 1:20 AM  wrote:

Yea it depends on climate I guess lol where 95 to 104F is our summer which is 
in December January lol horses for courses is the old saying isn’t it 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2021 3:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the cold

 

Hello Bill

 

I had to look it up. -4C is 24 deg. F.  

I have to smile, that is just fall temp.'s for  us.  (Just kidding,) 24 deg. is 
cold. but we get much colder. Temp. around 0 F. -17C is normal in Jan-Feb . But 
 Tim Z. will see -40F which is -40.0C too.   Pretty neat! ;-)

 

Try to stay worm.  

 

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, July 9, 2021, 09:09:09 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

 

 

Just cant bring my self to go out in my un heated shop yet,

Here is a pic 2 hours ago from my front gate looking at my house in the 
distance still frost on the ground -4C this morning br I know nothing like 
you guys get but to my old aussi bones it cold.

 

Bill

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RE: Shop electrical help

[Michael Kratky]

Not difficult, installed 2 muiti zone ones in my own home 2 years ago which 
each took a  15A-220V  circuit but I ran 12-2 rated for 20 amps, however, 
depending which State you’re in and what NEC Code version they follow a GFCI 
protected circuit may be required which could add over $100 cost. Used a 
weatherproof FS style box, a 2 pole 20A rated switch, weatherproof switch 
cover, some flex conduit and you’re done electrically.  Units are precharged 
with refrigerant but a friend came over with his gauges and topped them off 
with R410A.

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Darkdragon
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shop electrical help

 

It's funny because I'm going through the same thing: got a Minisplit to install 
but need an electrician to put in the 220 and disconnect.  Nobody will reply to 
me! Frustrating.

 

 

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 7:59 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Timothy,

Contact me if I can be of help.

Michael Kratky
Senior Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 
Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 
Licensed Master Electrician(retired) 
NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions
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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cole Andrews
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 2:13 PM
To: Legacy group
Subject: Re: Who is going to be the first to try these on there Legacy?

229-425 -3605 cell coleandrew...@gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:38 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Cole,
>
> Thanks for the offer, yes doing a lot of it myself, with some help from 
> another guy.
> Electrical will probably have hired but never know for sure in timing on that 
> part and complexity of it.
> The guy helping will do the charging etc... but sure can use all the help we 
> can get.
> We could discuss this in a private message so as not to lose it somewhere.
> Thanks again Cole and talk soon.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 9:55 AM Cole Andrews  wrote:
>>
>> are you doing this heat pump  , split yourself or hiring it out ? I 
>> can walk you through it if you need help.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:19 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> >
>> > will do I may post some on it once I decide to move forward.
>> > First I better get my Heat Pump/mini split in my shop.
>> > Getting super hot in the shop without Air conditioning.
>> > Kind Regards,
>> >
>> > Timothy J. Ziegler
>> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> > 14171 160th Ave.
>> > Foreston MN 56330
>> >
>> > 320-294-5798 shop
>> > 320-630-2243 cell
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 7:32 AM  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If you get one let us know how much it was and what its like
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>> >>  On Behalf Of Tim 
>> >> Ziegler
>> >> Sent: Monday, 28 June 2021 9:37 PM
>> >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Who is going to be the first to try these on there Legacy?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That Morphing Fractal Vise may be perfect for me to hold odd things in my 
>> >> laser engraver Wow what a find!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kind Regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> >>
>> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> >>
>> >> 14171 160th Ave.
>> >>
>> >> Foreston MN 56330
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 320-294-5798 shop
>> >>
>> >> 320-630-2243 cell
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 10:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>> >> Mills  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> HI guys.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill the chucks LOOK like they can be locked into place with the lever on 
>> >> the side, You can see it on there video's although t

RE: Shop electrical help

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy,

Contact me if I can be of help.

Michael Kratky
Senior Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 
Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 
Licensed Master Electrician(retired) 
NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions
119 Riverview Road
Northville,NY 12134
theinspect...@roadrunner.com
(518) 863-8800
(518) 207-7247 mobile

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cole Andrews
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 2:13 PM
To: Legacy group
Subject: Re: Who is going to be the first to try these on there Legacy?

229-425 -3605 cell coleandrew...@gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:38 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Hey Cole,
>
> Thanks for the offer, yes doing a lot of it myself, with some help from 
> another guy.
> Electrical will probably have hired but never know for sure in timing on that 
> part and complexity of it.
> The guy helping will do the charging etc... but sure can use all the help we 
> can get.
> We could discuss this in a private message so as not to lose it somewhere.
> Thanks again Cole and talk soon.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 9:55 AM Cole Andrews  wrote:
>>
>> are you doing this heat pump  , split yourself or hiring it out ? I 
>> can walk you through it if you need help.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:19 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> >
>> > will do I may post some on it once I decide to move forward.
>> > First I better get my Heat Pump/mini split in my shop.
>> > Getting super hot in the shop without Air conditioning.
>> > Kind Regards,
>> >
>> > Timothy J. Ziegler
>> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> > 14171 160th Ave.
>> > Foreston MN 56330
>> >
>> > 320-294-5798 shop
>> > 320-630-2243 cell
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 7:32 AM  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If you get one let us know how much it was and what its like
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>> >>  On Behalf Of Tim 
>> >> Ziegler
>> >> Sent: Monday, 28 June 2021 9:37 PM
>> >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Who is going to be the first to try these on there Legacy?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That Morphing Fractal Vise may be perfect for me to hold odd things in my 
>> >> laser engraver Wow what a find!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kind Regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> >>
>> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> >>
>> >> 14171 160th Ave.
>> >>
>> >> Foreston MN 56330
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 320-294-5798 shop
>> >>
>> >> 320-630-2243 cell
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 10:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>> >> Mills  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> HI guys.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill the chucks LOOK like they can be locked into place with the lever on 
>> >> the side, You can see it on there video's although they did not use the 
>> >> lock while demonstrating.
>> >>
>> >> The idea of setting an angle on your work piece, and being able to 
>> >> locking it in place to engrave is the goal of this product. (at 
>> >> least that's how I see it.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I sent a note to  Steve Lindsay  Hopefully he will reply tomorrow?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> C.A.G.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, June 27, 2021, 12:33:01 PM EDT,  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Not sure what I think of these, if you can lock them from spinning 
>> >> they would be good for holding irregular shaped objects for 
>> >> milling I shall have to think more on them
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> &

RE: spiral pen

[Michael Kratky]

Have been a turner for decades and have or still belong to multiple turning 
clubs but hardly knew anyone who made a living at it or even broke even on the 
continuing investment that includes making pens, even gave away my pen making 
dedicated Jet Mini Lathe to my nephew who got out of it almost as soon as he 
got into it but the mini rewards along the way sure are fun. 

 

Great group enjoy the interaction and the enthusiasm everyone brings to the 
table.

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 10:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: spiral pen

 

Agreed 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:12 PM  wrote:

They do have there place but if you already have a legacy mill why buy a pen 
wizard that does the same thing but if you don’t own or cant afford a legacy 
and you’re a pen turner then you would defiantly buy one

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: spiral pen

 

I think they both have a place though. Though I only have LOM and WC. those pen 
wizards take up minimal space..

 

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 5:41 PM  wrote:

You are right ray I have seen that video and did look and your right there are 
many different 1/8th shank router bits out there. the pen wizard is a nice tool 
but the legacy can do so much more.

Bill

 

From: rayuk99 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:40 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: spiral pen

 

Try this.  I don’t believe the Pen Wizard comes with any bits per se – but 
Dremel do a lot.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ

 

For bits to fit the Dremel search for 1/8th Shank router bits – you will be 
surprised how many there are and how cheap they are.

 

Ray

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Darkdragon
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: spiral pen

 

Dremmel brand also has quite a few router bits they offer but I don’t have any 
of those. 

 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 10:03 PM  wrote:

I cant see any that might have done the spiral who knows what bit was used

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Darkdragon
Sent: Monday, 31 May 2021 12:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: spiral pen

 

 

Here is all the Pen Wizard bits that they offer with the machine. 

 

Lisa

 



 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 8:34 PM Darkdragon  wrote:

It is a nice pen, I will take a look at what mine came with. 

 

 

 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 7:54 PM  wrote:

Even so it’s a nice looking pen it looks like a small round over router bit was 
used in the dermal does anyone know if the pen wizard comes with a round over 
bit?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Darkdragon
Sent: Monday, 31 May 2021 9:50 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: spiral pen

 

Definitely made with a dremmel on the pen wizard. 

 

 

 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 6:06 PM  wrote:

That what I thought 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Monday, 31 May 2021 2:44 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: spiral pen

 

Have no idea what a dermal dam is but more than likely that open blank was made 
on a Beall Pen Wizard that was introduced about 12 years ago.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ

 

Happy Memorial Day, cold and wet here in the Adirondacks.

 

Michael 

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 2:09 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: spiral pen

 

Found this on facebook today the guy says the spiral was done by hand with a 
dermal dam fine piece of work if he did as good as any we could make on the 
legacy

 

Bill

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RE: spiral pen

[Michael Kratky]

Have no idea what a dermal dam is but more than likely that open blank was made 
on a Beall Pen Wizard that was introduced about 12 years ago.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ

 

Happy Memorial Day, cold and wet here in the Adirondacks.

 

Michael 

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: spiral pen

 

Found this on facebook today the guy says the spiral was done by hand with a 
dermal dam fine piece of work if he did as good as any we could make on the 
legacy

 

Bill

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RE: the Holy Grail of Legacy machines

[Michael Kratky]

I also agree, I’ll stick to my manual 1200 LOM any CNC version associated with 
them would be totally unsupported from Legacy and I see nothing but frustration 
and problems instead spend the money on 4th axis Digital Wood Carver that is 
100% more supportive.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:44 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the Holy Grail of Legacy machines

 

Very well stated Tracy, 

I have to agree with all you said. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 9:44 PM Tracy Smith  wrote:

>From my perspective $3500 would be way too high. The CNC side of this machine 
>would be a complete mystery and major risk. It likely works fine but there is 
>no support from Legacy and even if the stepper motors work well, if you are 
>missing any one part, it could impact the practicality of using the machine at 
>all as a CNC. You still need a computer, correct software and the 
>configuration files to make it run properly. 

 

If I was to buy this machine, I would only buy it as a 1500 with the stated 
accessories and would not assume the CNC side of it. If I was able to get the 
CNC working, some of the parts, like the 4xgear would have no use as you don't 
need the gears for pitching, the index plates or directional gears. You can't 
use the templating functionality with the CNC so those accessories are not 
useful either.

 

I recently sold a model 2000, with all the bells and whistles and several bits 
for only $2500 and that was for a model 2000 which is a much larger machine. 

 

I bought my 1200 Performance CNC for $2200 3 years ago. Even though I am 
selling it, I have been very happy with it. I have added things to it so it is 
a better machine today than when I bought it. However, I had to figure out how 
to get it working completely on my own. There is no support from Legacy and I 
was digging through forums that were 10 years old to get the pieces of 
information I needed. For me it was actually a lot of fun but I would have a 
hard time imagining someone else going through the same process.

 

In no way am I trying to disparage someone from buying this awesome looking 
machine. I have just seen so many of these machines and there is often 
something missing. I just love the machines and usually have the parts to fill 
in the gaps. Well I used to have all the parts :).

 

I found a brand new 1800 last year in an estate sale. The owner got it from her 
father and had no idea what to do with it or interest in it. She was asking 
$2000 for it. I looked it over. It was missing a few small, but key parts, and 
was not put together properly. I told her about the machine and that my 
interest was only in some of the accessories. In the end, I bought it for $500, 
spent hours putting it together properly, replaced some of the missing parts 
and then sold it for $1000. Not a business for me, but I got a good deal, the 
person who bought it got a good deal and I, hopefully, helped someone get a 
good start with one of these mills.

 

Anyway, something to consider.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 7:24 PM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

to Tom Weaver... Tom, does your CNC have the rack-and-pinion version of the CNC 
upgrade?... or do you have the stepper motors connected to the acme 5/8-4 
threaded rods?... if it is the rack-and-pinion version, could you please post 
some photos of it... I have never seen the r and p setup on a machine... 
thanks... Joe B.

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:19:00 PM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:

Bill... I would think that the more common gear sets are there... for my 
estimating purposes, and for what I see all that is there, I would think the 
original owner purchased all of the gear sets... of course it needs to be 
verified... and if it is found that they are not there, than a price adjustment 
is in order... but from the photos that I have seen, this original user ran 
through the catalog and purchased everything Legacy had to offer at the time... 
it is my understanding that there are more boxes the seller has to go 
through... so I am making some assumptions here... lets see where this goes... 
here are photos of those extra long router bits... its all good stuff here... 
part of what is interesting is everyone's opinions... Joe B.

 

 

 router bits legacy for sale bob 14.jpg 

  legacy for sale bob 15.jpg 

 

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:45:51 PM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:

I just put 

RE: Pie Crust Table on the Legacy Ornamental mill; Charles Neil

[Michael Kratky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC2oZ-_bB3Q

 

Mac,

 

At 30”in diameter it was a 3 piece glue up.

 

Was at Charles Neil’s 2 different shops 4 times I wanted to make the 20 hour 
round trip down there when the contents were liquated but it wasn’t in the 
cards. 

Sadly for the hugh impact he had on the industry seldom do I hear or see any 
reference to him anymore or does anyone even recognize his name I didn’t even 
know he had a family always thought that Sherry Mills was his significant 
other, there wasn’t even  an obituary posted. 

 

Michael

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 4:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pie Crust Table on the Legacy Ornamental mill

 

Michael,

 

Very nice - Thanks for sharing.   Is the top all one piece; or several pieces 
glued up?

 

Yes, Charles Neil will be missed.  He was a "one of a kind woodworker" - and he 
loved to share his knowledge and skill with others.

What a coincidence that you should mention Charles.  Almost a year and a half 
ago, I (and other members of our woodworkers' guild) had the opportunity to go 
to Charles' shop in the Shenandoah Valley and partake in the sale of the 
contents of his shop.  Consequently, several of us have tools and material 
(wood, jigs, etc.) that Charles used.  That makes them somewhat special to us.

 

Again, thanks for sharing.

Mac

  _  

 

-Original Message----- 
From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: May 24, 2021 3:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Pie Crust Table on the Legacy Ornamental mill 




Yep made this one some 12 years ago out of black walnut not on the LOM but with 
some fancy router, template and lathe work the way my late friend Charles Neil 
taught me, had intended to make more but never did and now I’m too old to 
remember the process and Charles belongs to the ages. Always thought that the 
Legacy or a CNC would dramatically speed up the process, the top is 30” in 
diameter.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pie Crust Table on the Legacy Ornamental mill

 

That was fun to watch, thanks for the heads up, stay safe, Ron T.

 

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 9:52 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

Thanks Curt


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 4:37 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

Just found this. It may not be the Legacy version, but it is fun to watch.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TNtaamaaf8

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, May 22, 2021, 09:38:59 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler  
wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 2:24 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm glad you all like this. 

Don and the Group talked about this idea for at least a month, before Don 
finely figured out all the little details needed to make this work.  Like Bill 
said, the circle cutting center, (home made version if I remember correctly.) 
was used, And he used a modified template to turn the edges.  

I do also remember asking if a trapped template would be a better choice for a 
job like this?  I had a file on this table topic, but sadly the file is now 
something that I can not open, (change of format for my old 95 system.) If I 
can figure out how to pull up some of those photos I will send them your 
way.(Here is one file that I can still open on this topic.)

As I know he made a 1/4 sized template of the tables profile. ( cut like a pie 
piece.) and used that template to cut appx. 1 quarter of the table at a time. 

 

got'a run guys.

talk to you all  more latter.

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Saturday, May 22, 2021, 01:07:51 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler  
wrote: 

 

 

So true Bill So True. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:15 AM  wrote:

Always remember Tim the only thing stopping you doing anything on a legacy mill 
is a lack of imagination

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 22 May 2021 8:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pie Crust Table on the Legacy Ornamental mill

 

Thanks Curt,

 

I for one enjoy seeing the past projects as it reminds me of all the unexplored 
opportunities I have waiting for me. 

Thanks to 

RE: Kind of LOM related

[Michael Kratky]

Tracy in addition redwood is naturally insect and rot resistant, the problem I 
have here is the chipmunks grab the strawberries about the time they ripen or 
worse they go from berry to berry taking just a bite of each. Then there’s the 
blue jays cleaning out my blueberries or the raccoons eating my concord grapes 
not to mention the black bears and deer getting everything else.

 

Perhaps I could rig up a silhouette operating the LOM 1200 that I don’t use set 
up outside to scare them off so I don’t have to keep explaining to my wife “why 
you’d buy that thing”?

 

Michael in the Adirondacks

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Smith
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 12:27 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Kind of LOM related

 

Hello all,

 

Over two years ago I was using my mill to do a lot of work with redwood.. I had 
a ton of chips and sawdust. I just couldn't throw it all away so I bagged it up 
and stored it away.

 

I used some of it for mulch in a couple grow boxes I have. A few weeks after I 
put it in the box, the color changed to a beautiful blood red. The strawberry 
plants and raspberry plants grew up around the redwood mulch. It was unplanned 
but surprisingly beautiful.

 

We are just getting ready to plant some stuff in our grow boxes and I broke out 
a few of the bags of the redwood chips and put it on the top of a couple boxes. 
I've attached a couple pictures.

 

Hopefully, in a few weeks, I'll post a follow up with some cool pictures to 
show how the color has changed.

 

Anyway, not really any tips about using the LOM but the chips came directly 
from using the LOM :).

 

Tracy

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RE: Material Prices explained

[Michael Kratky]

I work in Code Enforcement the cost of framing lumber has more than doubled but 
the bigger issue is the quality as it twists, warps and splits so bad to the 
point that’s its unusable, put a moisture meter on a 2x6 stud yesterday on a 
construction site and it was 18%, they’re all cut from the very center of the 
tree. Having said that there a building and home buying boom going on here and 
I don’t understand where the folks are getting all that money from unless it’s 
those transitioning from the richer metropolitan areas.  

 

I’m selling my Lake front home soon and plan to capitalize (sorry all you 
socialists) on the situation.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:47 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Material Prices explained

 

yes of course however he was packing a lot of information into a 10 minute 
video so 

I'm thinking he considered most woodworkers know wood has to be dried. 

Yes air dry average year per inch. 

pre-drying and Kiln drying approx. 30 days on average. 

Thanks for your input. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:54 AM Brigitte Graham  
wrote:

What the guy in the vid clip missed out on was the very necessary months lumber 
spends in a kiln or the (preferable) 1 year per inch thickness of timber to air 
dry.

You would be asking for all sorts of problems buying timber from a store that 
had not been properly dried to somewhere around 15% moisture content. Just the 
same as you wouldn't burn fresh felled firewood.

Legacy Widow

 

 

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 13:13, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:

I found this video extremely good. 

short and full of good information. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ssa7yooX3k

 

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

 

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RE: Rosette w/wave

[Michael Kratky]

In addition to my other jobs I work part time in an Art Gallery here in 
Northville, NY and Lee, Mass a little clean up and creative air brushing this 
piece could be displayed with best of them.

 

Michael

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 5:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rosette w/wave

 

I believe it's the barley twist

 

 

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 3:51 PM  wrote:

So what bit did you use?

 

Bill

‘

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2021 8:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rosette w/wave

 

Hey Curt all starts from outside edge.

I used every 5th hole in the standard gear set, along with the second smallest 
drive gear.

 I would have used the straight bit

out the outside but was getting late and so I sorta copped out so to speak.

I will do my best to do another here and duplicate it. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hey there Tim!

 

Very nice job.  How did you start your rosette? from the edge to center or from 
the edge all the way through?

 

One suggestion, use a planning bit and cut away the outer part of the rosette 
making it a define circle. 

No mater what and how you did it. write it down, I think you have a winner 
there. ;-)

Keep up the good work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021, 11:03:53 PM EDT, Ccm Ccm  
wrote: 

 

 

Nice 

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021, timjz...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hey I know this is not perfect and has a lot of 

flaws but I went out last night with one thing

on my mind make a Rosette using the CG style 

wave attachment and this is what I came up with.

The outside is not complete as it was getting late

but look at the design. the options are endless. 

yes chipping ever were as the bit needs a little 

sharpening but 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

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RE: Re:

[Michael Kratky]

Bill, 
The thread chaser hook is no longer necessary it was used years ago for 
production spindle turners when the tool rest was fixed parallel to the stock. 
Modern more universal lathes have a "banjo" that can rotate perpendicular to 
the stock to support the chaser.  

Michael

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 12:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:

No I will talk about anything lol 
A thread chaser man I like your style on the internal thread do you find the 
chaser hook helps I been thinking of buying one?

Bill

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of anthony
Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2021 6:08 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re:

People started talking about threading.
Hope this isn't breaking topic rules, but just had to show.

Material is Osage Orange, about 2.3 inches in diameter.
Roughed and then left to season for about six months.
Threads are 16tpi with a wax finish.

I try to avoid taps and dies on wood, but I use taps on real small openings. 
I made some toothpicks out of ivory, and each one fits into its own sheath/box 
which I used a #8 by 32tpi tap for.  The male had to be chased as a die leaves 
a taper for short lengths.

There is a tap and die set up from Garret Wade for big something like you are 
asking about.
And of course there are three or four set ups for mounting a powered cutter on 
a wood lathe.

anthony


To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.
.
-Original Message-
From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 10:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:

Hi gentlemen,
Has anyone turned threads on the legacy?
I want to make some 2” diameter threaded wooden rods.
Thanks in advance.


Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Apr 3, 2021, at 11:34 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





Maybe these pics will make it clearer now the numbers in the graph are gear 
pitches not the dia of the gear, always go by the number of teeth to know the 
size of the gear



Bill





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2021 2:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE:





I just hope legacy has them for you Brett, just make sure you say the 
A,B,C,D,E,F and G gears in your case you already have the B gear



Bill





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brett Giger
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2021 11:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject:







Now I need to get the drive gear set,it's what I should if bought all along



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RE: Re:

[Michael Kratky]

Anthony thank you for posting you hand chasing (threading) images.

I've been turning and threading for decades hand chasings can only be 
successfully accomplished on very few limited species of wood so several years 
ago I purchased an American made threading jig from Chefware Kits in New 
Hampshire that was a game changer that allows one to very easily thread almost 
any turnable material.

https://chefwarekits.com/Threading-Jigs-c9880435

The owner of ChefwareKits, Craig Lapiana, developed a love for woodworking 
after his return from a command, he held overseas, in support of Operation 
Enduring Freedom (OEF4) back in 2004 in Afghanistan. Woodworking was a healthy 
way for him to get back into a "civilian mode" on his return from the war.

Happy turning,

Michael Kratky


 

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 4:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re:

People started talking about threading.
Hope this isn't breaking topic rules, but just had to show.

Material is Osage Orange, about 2.3 inches in diameter.
Roughed and then left to season for about six months.
Threads are 16tpi with a wax finish.

I try to avoid taps and dies on wood, but I use taps on real small openings. 
I made some toothpicks out of ivory, and each one fits into its own sheath/box 
which I used a #8 by 32tpi tap for.  The male had to be chased as a die leaves 
a taper for short lengths.

There is a tap and die set up from Garret Wade for big something like you are 
asking about.
And of course there are three or four set ups for mounting a powered cutter on 
a wood lathe.

anthony


To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.
.
-Original Message-
From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 10:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:

Hi gentlemen,
Has anyone turned threads on the legacy?
I want to make some 2” diameter threaded wooden rods.
Thanks in advance.


Sent from Denson's iPhone

On Apr 3, 2021, at 11:34 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





Maybe these pics will make it clearer now the numbers in the graph are gear 
pitches not the dia of the gear, always go by the number of teeth to know the 
size of the gear



Bill





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2021 2:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE:





I just hope legacy has them for you Brett, just make sure you say the 
A,B,C,D,E,F and G gears in your case you already have the B gear



Bill





From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brett Giger
Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2021 11:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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Now I need to get the drive gear set,it's what I should if bought all along



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RE: All I could do was shake my head and laugh

[Michael Kratky]

Harvey, as I tell my wife it’s only wood and it grows on trees. 

 

I’m envious as all my grandkids are 3000 miles away and seldom ever see them 
now they’re approaching college age and soon will be on their own. 

 

I splurged at a woodworking show years ago and bought a PantoRouter 
(https://pantorouter.com/) bet that would be ideal for cutting the slot.

 

MichaelJ

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 5:27 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: All I could do was shake my head and laugh

 

I am working on a mailbox for my 4 year old grandson.  I'm not good at 
installing hinges so I was really focus at making sure the hinges were even.  
Currently, the top was not connected so that I could screw in the hinges.  
After I had everything just right (I thought) 

I looked at the entire project and shock my head and laughed.  About a 1/2 hour 
later this is what I finally got.  (second picture)

 

It still needs the handle painted, as well as the entire box.  I cut out a red 
flag out of plastic.

My grandson's name will also be painted on it.

 

Enjoy, I hope if makes peoples day to laugh at my mistake.

 

Harvey

 

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RE: Dovetail Jigs

[Michael Kratky]

Robs free you tube videos are archived for your leisure viewing. He actually 
does them every 1st and 3rd Saturday evening monthly. His custom dovetail saw 
is the finest in the business.

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 9:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dovetail Jigs

 

Hey thats pretty impressive. I'm going to even watch that in short spurts of 
course. 

to much for one sit down. lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:20 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Spent a week many years ago with Rob Cosman at his shop in New Brunswick Canada 
by far the best hand tool and dovetail coach in world:

www.RobCosman.com

 

Rob is doing a free 2hr YouTube presentation this Saturday Evening 6PM EST on 
half blind dovetails.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dovetail Jigs

 

Hand cut dovetails very impressive I have never done a dovetail by hand without 
a jig 

You’re a better woodworker than me 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2021 1:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dovetail Jigs

 

I also have the 24” Omni jig and several of the Leigh Dovetail jigs that I 
couldn’t be happier with but several years ago I switched strictly to hand cut 
as I don’t do production work and nothing makes more of a statement than hand 
cut. The late Charles Neil and good friend had and sold the only dovetail jig 
ever made that came close to resembling hand cut dovetails but I sold it after 
he passed away as the bits were prioritized thru Whiteside and no longer 
available. 

 

Finally its maple syrup production time here meaning winter is nearly overJ.

 

“Live long and prosper”,

Michael 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 8:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

I have the Keller as well. But the 24 inch Omni jig is the one I tend to use. 
I'm of course not Dove railing everyday but when I do it's usually a lot.

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:34 AM  wrote:

This is the one I bought

https://gifkins.com.au/shop/dovetail-jig-solo-beginner-pack/

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 10:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Wow very nice, did not see router bits were they on there too?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

There is a 900 in Burleson TX and a 1200 with drive motor and extras in Fort 
Worth. Both listed on

https://dallas.craigslist.org/d/tools/search/tla?query=legacy%20ornamental%20mill
 

If anyone interested. 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks yea I already have the big 24 inch porter cable omni jig. way to much 
money but I had to have it. 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 7:21 AM  wrote:

If you do dovetails or want to do them let me put you onto the best and easiest 
dovetail jig I have ever seen I got one not long ago and love it so much so I’m 
getting a second one well worth the money check it out https://gifkins.com.au/

 

I never liked other brands either way too expensive and lots of screwing around 
to set them this one is so easy.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:09 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Yes for sure and if you saw my shop full of tools you'd call me a tool junkie 
lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:05 AM  wrote:

Thats it you get it the dam mills do get in your blood lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:00 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Gotcha, now I'm wanting to get one even more lol thanks Bill. 

I'm for sure going to find one. I'm just getting 

RE: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

[Michael Kratky]

Agree, after 60 years woodworking/woodturning it’s obvious that not I’m not 
going to pay many bills that way but there’s some to be said for shop time and 
the self gratification making a hand crafted item like a Colonial Keeping Chest 
with hand cut dovetails.  

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 9:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

 

Yea I thought of it as a slow down and enjoy a sunday afternoon project. 

Everything I do in the woodworking world is for someone so I think at some point

I'd like to make some little things again.  lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:07 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Use it a few times nice piece of equipments as is anything Woodpeckers makes 
but seldom make pens anymore as every novice woodturner starts out making them 
and literally gives them away. 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 7:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

 

anyone using this. pretty impressive


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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Subject: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.
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RE: Dovetail Jigs

[Michael Kratky]

Spent a week many years ago with Rob Cosman at his shop in New Brunswick Canada 
by far the best hand tool and dovetail coach in world:

www.RobCosman.com

 

Rob is doing a free 2hr YouTube presentation this Saturday Evening 6PM EST on 
half blind dovetails.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 6:58 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dovetail Jigs

 

Hand cut dovetails very impressive I have never done a dovetail by hand without 
a jig 

You’re a better woodworker than me 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2021 1:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dovetail Jigs

 

I also have the 24” Omni jig and several of the Leigh Dovetail jigs that I 
couldn’t be happier with but several years ago I switched strictly to hand cut 
as I don’t do production work and nothing makes more of a statement than hand 
cut. The late Charles Neil and good friend had and sold the only dovetail jig 
ever made that came close to resembling hand cut dovetails but I sold it after 
he passed away as the bits were prioritized thru Whiteside and no longer 
available. 

 

Finally its maple syrup production time here meaning winter is nearly overJ.

 

“Live long and prosper”,

Michael 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 8:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

I have the Keller as well. But the 24 inch Omni jig is the one I tend to use. 
I'm of course not Dove railing everyday but when I do it's usually a lot.

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:34 AM  wrote:

This is the one I bought

https://gifkins.com.au/shop/dovetail-jig-solo-beginner-pack/

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 10:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Wow very nice, did not see router bits were they on there too?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

There is a 900 in Burleson TX and a 1200 with drive motor and extras in Fort 
Worth. Both listed on

https://dallas.craigslist.org/d/tools/search/tla?query=legacy%20ornamental%20mill
 

If anyone interested. 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks yea I already have the big 24 inch porter cable omni jig. way to much 
money but I had to have it. 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 7:21 AM  wrote:

If you do dovetails or want to do them let me put you onto the best and easiest 
dovetail jig I have ever seen I got one not long ago and love it so much so I’m 
getting a second one well worth the money check it out https://gifkins.com.au/

 

I never liked other brands either way too expensive and lots of screwing around 
to set them this one is so easy.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:09 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Yes for sure and if you saw my shop full of tools you'd call me a tool junkie 
lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:05 AM  wrote:

Thats it you get it the dam mills do get in your blood lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:00 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Gotcha, now I'm wanting to get one even more lol thanks Bill. 

I'm for sure going to find one. I'm just getting a good taste of 

what you've enjoyed for 20 years and I can see why you guys 

like them so much. cool cool concepts and stuff you just don't

do on other machines. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:52 AM  wrote:

Yep out in front, I like it better that way also the revo saddle runs on 4 top 
hats not 2 like the bigger mills that’s why it’s more stable and a better mill 
for template work

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:38 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Yea I 

RE: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

[Michael Kratky]

Use it a few times nice piece of equipments as is anything Woodpeckers makes 
but seldom make pens anymore as every novice woodturner starts out making them 
and literally gives them away. 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 7:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.

 

anyone using this. pretty impressive


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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Subject: Ultra-Shear Pen Mill is On Sale Now.
To: 

 






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RE: Dovetail Jigs

[Michael Kratky]

I also have the 24” Omni jig and several of the Leigh Dovetail jigs that I 
couldn’t be happier with but several years ago I switched strictly to hand cut 
as I don’t do production work and nothing makes more of a statement than hand 
cut. The late Charles Neil and good friend had and sold the only dovetail jig 
ever made that came close to resembling hand cut dovetails but I sold it after 
he passed away as the bits were prioritized thru Whiteside and no longer 
available. 

 

Finally its maple syrup production time here meaning winter is nearly overJ.

 

“Live long and prosper”,

Michael 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 8:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

I have the Keller as well. But the 24 inch Omni jig is the one I tend to use. 
I'm of course not Dove railing everyday but when I do it's usually a lot.

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:34 AM  wrote:

This is the one I bought

https://gifkins.com.au/shop/dovetail-jig-solo-beginner-pack/

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 10:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Wow very nice, did not see router bits were they on there too?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:49 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

There is a 900 in Burleson TX and a 1200 with drive motor and extras in Fort 
Worth. Both listed on

https://dallas.craigslist.org/d/tools/search/tla?query=legacy%20ornamental%20mill
 

If anyone interested. 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-6 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks yea I already have the big 24 inch porter cable omni jig. way to much 
money but I had to have it. 

 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 7:21 AM  wrote:

If you do dovetails or want to do them let me put you onto the best and easiest 
dovetail jig I have ever seen I got one not long ago and love it so much so I’m 
getting a second one well worth the money check it out https://gifkins.com.au/

 

I never liked other brands either way too expensive and lots of screwing around 
to set them this one is so easy.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:09 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Yes for sure and if you saw my shop full of tools you'd call me a tool junkie 
lol. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:05 AM  wrote:

Thats it you get it the dam mills do get in your blood lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2021 12:00 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Gotcha, now I'm wanting to get one even more lol thanks Bill. 

I'm for sure going to find one. I'm just getting a good taste of 

what you've enjoyed for 20 years and I can see why you guys 

like them so much. cool cool concepts and stuff you just don't

do on other machines. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:52 AM  wrote:

Yep out in front, I like it better that way also the revo saddle runs on 4 top 
hats not 2 like the bigger mills that’s why it’s more stable and a better mill 
for template work

 

Bill 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:38 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Yea I want to mess around and turn pens, bird calls, and other small stuff. 

Just seems to be a better option. So I hear you on that. and yes everything 

is out in front of them right?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:09 AM  wrote:

The revos are getting very scarce these days too. I like mine more than my 
bigger mill but they all have there place filming is much easier from the revo

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:51 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy 1000 with motor and turn table

 

Hey Bill thanks for responding. 

Yea I picked up he wasn't feeling to good. 

Not sure how i'd even be able to purchase his Revo'

RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

Anthony,
I'm the polar opposite of you other than demonstrating once in Provo Utah and 
Mesa Arizona I'm exclusively in the Northeast with a stint in Richmond VA and 
Tampa Florida a few years back; strictly a hobbyist turner now as in reality 
there's no money in it after 50 years in denial not to mention all those 
widgets, gadgets, exotic wood, and technical equipment they keep dangling in 
front of us that will keep you in the poor house. Being in Code Enforcement I 
do enjoy seeing a construction project coming out of the ground to the finish 
especially some of the high end ones where money is no object like the one I 
signed off recently for the actor Tom Hanks.


Michael Kratky
Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 
Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 
NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions
119 Riverview Road
Northville,NY 12134
theinspect...@roadrunner.com
(518) 863-8800 ofc
(518) 207-7247 mobile






-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

I live in Overland Park, KS.  It is a part of the Kansas City Metropolitan area.
I taught at the Local Woodcraft for a long while, but they aren't doing much 
now.  We do some classes at the local turning club. 
http://kcwoodturners.org/  Just did a beginning spindle class, and will soon 
start a beginning bowl class.
I have never done any stuff In New York.

I demonstrated in Florida a couple of times and a small one in Richmond or one 
of the Carolinas - you get over there on the other side of the Mississippi, and 
it all kind of blurs together.

Zoom is nice, but I much prefer physical presence when I demonstrate or watch.
The Instant Galleries are also better in person.

Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the 
answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide 
that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Kratky
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:37 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.

Anthony where are you located and teaching turning? I've been doing the same 
for the last 20 years here in upstate NY and adjacent Massachusetts, like you 
Covid has shut me down to the point that I'm losing interest and may move on to 
something else but do find zoom an interesting outcome.


Michael Kratky
Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant Commonwealth Electrical 
Inspection Services, Inc NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions
119 Riverview Road
Northville,  NY 12134
theinspect...@roadrunner.com
(518) 863-8800 ofc
(518) 207-7247 mobile



-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

I teach woodturning classes.  The one I did today is local.
I traveled around some and did demos and hands on classes at clubs or symposia. 
 I use the past tense as the covid has made that difficult for the last year.  
I will probably start again as it gets better, but using Zoom may have some 
effect on that.



Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the 
answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide 
that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:13 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.


Thanks for sharing that Anthony.
I find that very interesting and appreciate your attention to detail.

You come across as a true craftsman.
I can also tell you are passionate about your turnings.
Are you teaching woodworking classes? Just curious and you don't have to answer 
if you wish not too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 5:31 PM anthony  wrote:
Here are some pictures of a cup chuck that I am using to make boxes like I 
showed images of earlier.
It must be sized correctly to the piece being held, and the inside leading edge 
has to be crisp and within a degree or two of 90.
If the chuck is correct, you can do most eliptical work in it.



Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the 
answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide 
that one doesn't know and 

RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

Anthony where are you located and teaching turning? I've been doing the same 
for the last 20 years here in upstate NY and adjacent Massachusetts, like you 
Covid has shut me down to the point that I'm losing interest and may move on to 
something else but do find zoom an interesting outcome.


Michael Kratky
Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 
Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 
NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions
119 Riverview Road
Northville,  NY 12134
theinspect...@roadrunner.com
(518) 863-8800 ofc
(518) 207-7247 mobile



-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

I teach woodturning classes.  The one I did today is local.
I traveled around some and did demos and hands on classes at clubs or symposia. 
 I use the past tense as the covid has made that difficult for the last year.  
I will probably start again as it gets better, but using Zoom may have some 
effect on that.



Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the 
answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide 
that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:13 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.


Thanks for sharing that Anthony.
I find that very interesting and appreciate your attention
to detail.

You come across as a true craftsman.
I can also tell you are passionate about your turnings.
Are you teaching woodworking classes? Just curious and
you don't have to answer if you wish not too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 5:31 PM anthony  wrote:
Here are some pictures of a cup chuck that I am using to make boxes like I
showed images of earlier.
It must be sized correctly to the piece being held, and the inside leading
edge has to be crisp and within a degree or two of 90.
If the chuck is correct, you can do most eliptical work in it.



Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.


Hey Anthony,

Any time you reference something like this chuck your talking about can you
download a pix or two?
Just be curious to see some of these items. Possibly others would be
interested too?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell



On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 11:22 AM anthony  wrote:
A cup chuck.  The important part of the cup chuck is shaped like the inside
of a coffee cup with the rim being very crisp and of a diameter just
slightly smaller than the major diameter of the sphere and friction holds
the sphere in place while you work it.  The sphere can be placed in the cup
chuck at any orientation to permit access to its entire surface.  To make
the box, all of the work on the sphere is done in the cup chuck except the
initial step of turning the stock from square to approximate sphere.
The internal box, that piece that comes out of the sphere, is turned mostly
in a regular four-jawed chuck with one step done in a jam chuck.

anthony


Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.


them are pretty cool. What method are you using to turn the circles on the
completed Ball type turning?


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell



On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:51 PM anthony  wrote:
I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style of
box I have been making lately.
One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be
constant throughout its length.  I have only the two examples, and it is
difficult to be certain what is happening.
anthony


Since humans 

RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

Basements are great for seasoning and storing wood as long as the wife doesn’t 
mind sharing the same space with her wardrobe; most weekend woodworkers/turners 
have their shops there here in the northeast not something I recommend due to 
the noise and dust but any shop is better than no shop especially when it’s a 
consistent 60-68°F.

 

 

Michael Kratky

Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 

Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 

NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

theinspect...@roadrunner.com

(518) 863-8800 ofc

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Hey we had a heat wave here the temp only got down to -17 below. lol

Basements are great. about 90 percent of them have basements in minn. 

We have tile around our newer addition and the older part has a stone & morter, 
topped with a

couple courses of block. All the older part from the 40's. Not finished in old 
part. We do have

a few streams coming through the old basement and it goes right to the floor 
drain. 

The new part we have a sump pump that the tiles drain into. 

Basements are great. But some times the single level would be better. We have 3 
floors. 

upstairs, main level and Basement. 

Anyways a bit of the topic but  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:25 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Curtis - Where do you live that it is -12ºF?!

 

Tim and others:  In Ely, Minnie-soda it is (at this moment) -22ºF - and in 
Fairbanks Alaska it is a "balmy" +10ºF for comparison!

Moral here?  Move to Fairbanks!  LoL

 

Yes - basements are GREAT - provided the water table allows them.   Like you 
said - very moderate/stable temperature year round.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Feb 17, 2021 12:46 AM 
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. 

Hello again everyone, this topic has taken off...

 

First with Bill's heat.  I suggested a few years back, when he was re-building 
his house and workshop, to earth berm his house and perhaps even dig a basement.

he said that this kind of things just were not done over there.  Earth is an 
good insulator for both hot and cold.

 

As for me, I have a two car detached un-heated work shop, I use a radiant 
Kerosene 
heater.https://www.amazon.com/REMINGTON-REM-80-OFR-Radiant-Heating-Square/dp/B07GF9JQ1F
 I very much like my heater. its not as cheap as it once was to use, but this 
heater is quite and heats the shop nicely when I am working out there. I 
normally go through appx. 50 gal per winter. 

For me digging another basement and earth breaming my place just isn't as easy 
in  a city environment. ;-(  But perhaps... anything can be made possible. ;-)

 

Take care everyone, It's  -12 F* out tonight. Stay worm.

 

C.A.G.


  _  


On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 01:23:00 PM EST, Michael Kratky 
 wrote: 

 

Hello Timothy,

 

Like anything in this world we are constantly repairing or upgrading, 4 days 
ago it was the blower motor on the pellet stove, yesterday it was replacing the 
belts on the snow thrower, today it’s a leaky hydraulic ram on the tractor 
loader.

 

Can’t say enough good things about the LP gas Rinnai EX 38CWP wall heater, 
super efficient, dependable, care free, has 2 washable stainless steel mesh 
filters, a water reservoir to add necessary humidity, easy installation, only 
complaint is they keep increasing in cost my 1st one 5 years ago was $1200 now 
their close to $2200; actually have 3 of them between my 2nd house, my wife’s 
art studio and the shop. 

 

Apparently you sent your Minnesota weather to my brother in Texas, here in 
Northville, NY its 36° freezing rain with a big snow storm on its way in 2 
days. 

 

Michael


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 12:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Hey Michael, 

thanks for replying back. Always interesting to hear what others are using. 

Have you ever had to put in any parts? Sounds like it works pretty well for you.

Tell me a little more about the wall unit you're using?

 

You're very welcome on the weather. I never like to keep things for myself and 
my Mom taught me to share especially 

gifts like a long winded Polar Vortex. lol. Sounds like by the weekend we may  
be out of the basement for a while. 

 

RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

Hello Timothy,

 

Like anything in this world we are constantly repairing or upgrading, 4 days 
ago it was the blower motor on the pellet stove, yesterday it was replacing the 
belts on the snow thrower, today it’s a leaky hydraulic ram on the tractor 
loader.

 

Can’t say enough good things about the LP gas Rinnai EX 38CWP wall heater, 
super efficient, dependable, care free, has 2 washable stainless steel mesh 
filters, a water reservoir to add necessary humidity, easy installation, only 
complaint is they keep increasing in cost my 1st one 5 years ago was $1200 now 
their close to $2200; actually have 3 of them between my 2nd house, my wife’s 
art studio and the shop. 

 

Apparently you sent your Minnesota weather to my brother in Texas, here in 
Northville, NY its 36° freezing rain with a big snow storm on its way in 2 
days. 

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 12:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Hey Michael, 

thanks for replying back. Always interesting to hear what others are using. 

Have you ever had to put in any parts? Sounds like it works pretty well for you.

Tell me a little more about the wall unit you're using?

 

You're very welcome on the weather. I never like to keep things for myself and 
my Mom taught me to share especially 

gifts like a long winded Polar Vortex. lol. Sounds like by the weekend we may  
be out of the basement for a while. 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:27 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Hi Timothy, 

 

It’s an American Harvest about 12 years old designed to burn most anything (but 
not coal), have burned corn and even cherry pits in it but now just wood 
pellets as that’s all I can find; cost me about $7.50/day to heat my 2400 sq ft 
home at a comfortable 70°F during the coldest times January, February, and 
March. 

 

1200 sq ft shop is a super efficient Rinnai EX 38CWP propane wall furnace that 
cost me only about $2/day to heat at a constant 60°F.

 

Thanks for send you weather my way,

 

Michael Kratky

Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 

Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 

NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

theinspect...@roadrunner.com

(518) 863-8800 ofc

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

yup what brand you Michael? 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:50 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

LOL, what country we even burn food here for energy; I actually have a heating 
stove that’s designed to burn corn.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.

 

Yep I will go along with that. Now please forgive my ignorance but what is a 
corn boiler

 

Here a boiler is a pot we cook food in like lobster or yabbies in, is it some 
sort of large heater over there?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 10:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Lets just meet in the middle and I think we'd all be happier Bill. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 1:24 AM  wrote:

I’ll trade you guys for a bit of that cold its 90 ºF  here today

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 3:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Tim,

I think I heard on the radio that Ely hit minus 50ºF yesterday or the day 
before!

I believe they said it was a record low temp for that date.

It ought to be very safe for you to go out ice fishing this coming week. 

Stay warm.

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Feb 14, 2021 10:00 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. 

Hey Harvey hope all is well good to se

RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

Hi Timothy, 

 

It’s an American Harvest about 12 years old designed to burn most anything (but 
not coal), have burned corn and even cherry pits in it but now just wood 
pellets as that’s all I can find; cost me about $7.50/day to heat my 2400 sq ft 
home at a comfortable 70°F during the coldest times January, February, and 
March. 

 

1200 sq ft shop is a super efficient Rinnai EX 38CWP propane wall furnace that 
cost me only about $2/day to heat at a constant 60°F.

 

Thanks for send you weather my way,

 

Michael Kratky

Electrical Fire Underwriter Inspector and Consultant 

Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Services, Inc 

NY State Greater Capital District-Adirondack Regions

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

theinspect...@roadrunner.com

(518) 863-8800 ofc

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

yup what brand you Michael? 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:50 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

LOL, what country we even burn food here for energy; I actually have a heating 
stove that’s designed to burn corn.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.

 

Yep I will go along with that. Now please forgive my ignorance but what is a 
corn boiler

 

Here a boiler is a pot we cook food in like lobster or yabbies in, is it some 
sort of large heater over there?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 10:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Lets just meet in the middle and I think we'd all be happier Bill. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 1:24 AM  wrote:

I’ll trade you guys for a bit of that cold its 90 ºF  here today

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 3:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Tim,

I think I heard on the radio that Ely hit minus 50ºF yesterday or the day 
before!

I believe they said it was a record low temp for that date.

It ought to be very safe for you to go out ice fishing this coming week. 

Stay warm.

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Feb 14, 2021 10:00 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. 

Hey Harvey hope all is well good to see your still following. 

Suppose to hit 30 below here tonight. wow what a long cold snap. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 8:30 PM Harvey Matyas  wrote:

Hi Curt

 

You already probably know about this guy but here goes.

 

Projects Archives | Turning for Profit | Woodturning | Lathe | 
<https://www.turningforprofit.com/plans/> 

 

He has like a user group where  he periodically sends out emails that have 
projects in them.

 

I hope this helps, keep warm.

 

Harvey


  _  


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 8:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

HI everyone.

 

I hope everyone  is well?

 

Its COLD in my shop, So I spent most of my day staying inside. I've been

looking for projects to play with on the Legacy and or my Lathe. On the 
internet today.

 

I want to do some more bone turning, I have already cut out a number of bone 
disks, I am looking forward to gluing them up into something that I can turn, 
soon.

The problem is What should I make?

I don't like pen's! 

I have already made a number of magnify glass's and other kits type of 
projects. 

 

I have gone to a number of dollar stores and hardware and thrift stores, 
looking for cheaply made things that can be re-worked. but so far no luck 
finding anything new.

So I thought I would ask you all.  Dose anyone know of a nice projects, that 
you like to make? Family heirloom type of stuff.  Perhaps a letter opener? or 
???

 

Any and all ideas are welcome.

 

Looking forward to talking to you all more.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Looking for some new projects.

[Michael Kratky]

LOL, what country we even burn food here for energy; I actually have a heating 
stove that’s designed to burn corn.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.

 

Yep I will go along with that. Now please forgive my ignorance but what is a 
corn boiler

 

Here a boiler is a pot we cook food in like lobster or yabbies in, is it some 
sort of large heater over there?

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 10:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Lets just meet in the middle and I think we'd all be happier Bill. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 1:24 AM  wrote:

I’ll trade you guys for a bit of that cold its 90 ºF  here today

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2021 3:48 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.

 

Tim,

I think I heard on the radio that Ely hit minus 50ºF yesterday or the day 
before!

I believe they said it was a record low temp for that date.

It ought to be very safe for you to go out ice fishing this coming week. 

Stay warm.

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Feb 14, 2021 10:00 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. 

Hey Harvey hope all is well good to see your still following. 

Suppose to hit 30 below here tonight. wow what a long cold snap. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 8:30 PM Harvey Matyas  wrote:

Hi Curt

 

You already probably know about this guy but here goes.

 

Projects Archives | Turning for Profit | Woodturning | Lathe | 
 

 

He has like a user group where  he periodically sends out emails that have 
projects in them.

 

I hope this helps, keep warm.

 

Harvey


  _  


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 8:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

HI everyone.

 

I hope everyone  is well?

 

Its COLD in my shop, So I spent most of my day staying inside. I've been

looking for projects to play with on the Legacy and or my Lathe. On the 
internet today.

 

I want to do some more bone turning, I have already cut out a number of bone 
disks, I am looking forward to gluing them up into something that I can turn, 
soon.

The problem is What should I make?

I don't like pen's! 

I have already made a number of magnify glass's and other kits type of 
projects. 

 

I have gone to a number of dollar stores and hardware and thrift stores, 
looking for cheaply made things that can be re-worked. but so far no luck 
finding anything new.

So I thought I would ask you all.  Dose anyone know of a nice projects, that 
you like to make? Family heirloom type of stuff.  Perhaps a letter opener? or 
???

 

Any and all ideas are welcome.

 

Looking forward to talking to you all more.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Ice sports, tamarack lumber and migration

[Michael Kratky]

Shows are still shut down everywhere for the foreseeable future but we hope to 
open the new shop and gallery to the public by summer and end the reliance on 
shows and galleries, interestingly my wife is doing great selling her art at 
galleries and a high end local restaurant do to the mass exodus of people out 
of the metropolitan areas migrating here for better and simpler life in the 
Adirondacks.  

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ice sports and tamarack lumber

 

Wow not a lot of ice for sure. Sure sounds like you got a busy year planed. How 
about woodworking shows? You heard anything on them?

 

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 8:06 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Ice here is 4”-11” not safe to be on as January temps are above normal but 
that’s not stopping many as the lake levels are constantly changing even so 
every winter for last 34 I’ve live here several go thru the ice snow machines, 
ATV’s, UTV’s and all and unfortunately become a statistic, those that survive 
are fined heavily for polluting the Lake.  

 

Yesterday I pick up a hugh truck load of milled tamarack lumber which is one of 
the very best rot resistant species, plan on making Adirondack and other 
outdoor furniture his summer from it and for trim on my new 1024 sq ft shop.  

 

Michael Kratky

Great Sacandaga Lake 

Northville, NY 12134

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 10:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

lol I thought you'd see the ice fishing note. Thanks Mac,

I will get some pix. I promise and I will not be using the underwater camera lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:32 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

Remember when you get your ice "catching" shelter erected - we want to see 
pictures!

And if your Hummer-I falls thru the ice - we want to see photos of it as well 
as photos of you getting it out.

And remember - as Bill & I recommended - get yourself a Frenchman to drive it 
out on the ice for you. 

 (I'm part "French" - so I have "license" to say that!)

(You can't get an Aussie - they are all "Down Under" where it is warm & sunny!)

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jan 12, 2021 10:19 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200 

I'd say lets go fishing lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:15 PM  wrote:

Well from dado on the legacy to extensions to fighting k9s lol we do cover it 
all

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

Well originally we were talking about me doing dado work on my legacy. but we 
got a bit side tracked with router extensions. lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:04 PM  wrote:

I thought we were talking about router extensions not dog fights lol 

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

For some models of routers - it appears they now make one that provides the 
"extension".

Poke around on the web site.  I do not own one - and "have no dog in the fight" 
- just sharing what I've seen.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jan 12, 2021 6:43 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200 

I have that one on the Poter Cable Router that came with my LOM but only as a 
Collet. 

It does not offer any extension. But certainly a great great product, Quick and 
Easy. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:10 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Another "similar" collett extender is one called the "Muscle Chuck". 

Here is a link to their home page: Muscle Chuck <https://www.musclechuck.com/> 

I'll let ya'll check the two out and decide which chuck extender is best for 
your particular need.

Perhaps there is/are someone in our Group that has experience using both.  

If that's the case, we will certainly appreciate your input as to which one you 
prefer (assuming you'd choose one over th e other).

Enjoy!

Mac

Ice sports and tamarack lumber

[Michael Kratky]

Ice here is 4”-11” not safe to be on as January temps are above normal but 
that’s not stopping many as the lake levels are constantly changing even so 
every winter for last 34 I’ve live here several go thru the ice snow machines, 
ATV’s, UTV’s and all and unfortunately become a statistic, those that survive 
are fined heavily for polluting the Lake.  

 

Yesterday I pick up a hugh truck load of milled tamarack lumber which is one of 
the very best rot resistant species, plan on making Adirondack and other 
outdoor furniture his summer from it and for trim on my new 1024 sq ft shop.  

 

Michael Kratky

Great Sacandaga Lake 

Northville, NY 12134

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 10:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

lol I thought you'd see the ice fishing note. Thanks Mac,

I will get some pix. I promise and I will not be using the underwater camera lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:32 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

Remember when you get your ice "catching" shelter erected - we want to see 
pictures!

And if your Hummer-I falls thru the ice - we want to see photos of it as well 
as photos of you getting it out.

And remember - as Bill & I recommended - get yourself a Frenchman to drive it 
out on the ice for you. 

 (I'm part "French" - so I have "license" to say that!)

(You can't get an Aussie - they are all "Down Under" where it is warm & sunny!)

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jan 12, 2021 10:19 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200 

I'd say lets go fishing lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:15 PM  wrote:

Well from dado on the legacy to extensions to fighting k9s lol we do cover it 
all

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:22 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

Well originally we were talking about me doing dado work on my legacy. but we 
got a bit side tracked with router extensions. lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:04 PM  wrote:

I thought we were talking about router extensions not dog fights lol 

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

For some models of routers - it appears they now make one that provides the 
"extension".

Poke around on the web site.  I do not own one - and "have no dog in the fight" 
- just sharing what I've seen.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jan 12, 2021 6:43 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200 

I have that one on the Poter Cable Router that came with my LOM but only as a 
Collet. 

It does not offer any extension. But certainly a great great product, Quick and 
Easy. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:10 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Another "similar" collett extender is one called the "Muscle Chuck". 

Here is a link to their home page: Muscle Chuck <https://www.musclechuck.com/> 

I'll let ya'll check the two out and decide which chuck extender is best for 
your particular need.

Perhaps there is/are someone in our Group that has experience using both.  

If that's the case, we will certainly appreciate your input as to which one you 
prefer (assuming you'd choose one over th e other).

Enjoy!

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jan 12, 2021 12:44 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200 

Yep quality always cost more I have 2 of them great tool

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 3:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dadoing Cabinet sides w/LOM 1200

 

yup. Worth it though if you don't have the longer bits to get to your work. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:49 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

OUCH! $91?

 

Ray


  _  


 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:46 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

Thanks again Tim.

 

Ray


  _  


 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:44 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

RE: Happy New Year good by 2020

[Michael Kratky]

Happy New Year good riddance to 2020;

 

1. The dumbest thing I ever bought was a 2020 planner.

2. I was so bored I called Jake from State Farm just to talk to someone. He 
asked me what I was wearing.

3. 2019: Stay away from negative people. 2020: Stay away from positive people.

4. The world has turned upside down. Old folks are sneaking out of the house & 
their kids are yelling at them to stay indoors!

5. This morning I saw a neighbor talking to her dog. It was obvious she thought 
her dog understood her. I came into my house & told my cat. We laughed a lot.

6. Every few days try your jeans on just to make sure they fit. Pajamas will 
have you believe all is well in the kingdom.

7. Does anyone know if we can take showers yet or should we just keep washing 
our hands?

8. This virus has done what no woman has been able to do. Cancel sports, shut 
down all bars & keep men at home!

9. I never thought the comment, “I wouldn’t touch him/her with a 6-foot pole” 
would become a national policy, but here we are!

10. I need to practice social-distancing from the refrigerator.

11. I hope the weather is good tomorrow for my trip to the Backyard. I’m 
getting tired of the Living Room.

12. Never in a million years could I have imagined I would go up to a bank 
teller wearing a mask & ask for money.

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 5:00 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: New Year

 

A safe and prosperous 2021 to all the members of this group

>From Richard in the U K 

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Adirondack State Park and the 1980 Winter Olympics

[Michael Kratky]

Hi Mac, 

 

Thank you so glad I stimulated you to do some research and look it up I’m 
impressed, actually I have very few neighbors as the Park is very sparsely 
populated due to the State government control and restrictions on development 
so in theory it’ll be here for generations to come, read somewhere that it’s 
bigger than 7 National Parks Combined, I own but a mere 37 acres. 

Interestingly and hard to imagine that New York City and the Adirondack Park is 
in the same State so when I travel I tell everyone I’m from  Lake Placid so no 
one would ever associate me with NYC, by the way I worked the 1980 Winter 
Olympics nearly 41 years ago in charge of power distribution, wiring all of the 
facilities and maintenance, I was also the camera man for the Miracle on Ice 
hockey game for ABC Sports having my office at the Broadcast center which is 
now the Elba Town Hall and fortunate to have my picture taken peaking out of 
the camera just as the game ended behind the US goal which I got the entire 
team to autograph.

 

Have a most joyous and wonderful Christmas, actually will be in the shop doing 
some turning as all of my remaining family moved to warmer climates decades 
ago. 

 

Michael☺

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 3:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Michael,

Thanks for your thoughts/input.  Interesting points.

Just want to tell you your fellow Adirondack neighbors will be upset with you 
if they see how "short" you have credited the Adirondack Park.

I thought your description of the size of it was GROSSLY understated.  

Turns out the Adirondack Park is approximately 6 Million ACRES - vs sq ft.!  
LoL!

I wish you and yours a Very Merry Christmas and a Safe, Healthy, and Happy New 
Year!

Mac

  _  

-Original Message----- 
From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Dec 21, 2020 9:02 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Mill work and Ideas. 




Timothy I don’t work with green wood life experiences taught me that valuable 
lesson unless I’m doing a woodturning club demo as I can easily throw ribbons 
off the lathe 20’ or more but then finished piece quickly distorts, splits and 
warps not to mention rusting up the lathe bed and tools.

 

It’s a winter wonderland here in the 6,000,000 sq ft Adirondack Park with only 
4 shopping days until Christmas to get those last minute projects completed and 
on to the recipient.

 

Michael 


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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Hey Michael hope all is well. So I should mess with the green stuff lol. I 
don't get to enough time but I am cleaning my LOM and put that double gear on 
that we talked about a few weeks ago.  The direction changing gear. 

So Curt and Michael do you power cut or climb cut when you run the green wood?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:27 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Same here green wood is fun to work especially to turn like apple but that’s 
where it ends, having been in the business for over 60 years I always have a 
stash of air dried boards, turning stock and lumber on hand (yea my wife is 
always reminding me) even then you have to allow for movement and learn to read 
the grain.

 

Michael


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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Hey Curtis thanks for all the useful information. Good stuff! 

I'm not big about green wood but now you for sure have my interest. 

Are you taking any precautions to prevent rust on your equipment and tools or 
really don't

have problems with it?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Most of those were made yesterday, The wood bowls, NO. but most of the little 
things on the table were.

 

As far as preserving the wood, I just seal them with shellac, or wax. and leave 
them be...  If the turning is worth the effort, I like to use water 
displacement when possible. 

 

As a General rule of thumb the slower the wood dry's the more stable it 
becomes. By replacing the water with an oil in the wood, makes sure that the 
wood will not dry out fast. I like to use tung oil or linseed oil, but mineral 
oil also works.  

 

Its an OLD Sailors trick. When replacing a broken the wooden mast's on a ship, 
they would find a solid tree to replace the broken mast. The new tree is Green 
WOOD, What they did was, pea

RE: Mill work and Ideas.

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy I don’t work with green wood life experiences taught me that valuable 
lesson unless I’m doing a woodturning club demo as I can easily throw ribbons 
off the lathe 20’ or more but then finished piece quickly distorts, splits and 
warps not to mention rusting up the lathe bed and tools.

 

It’s a winter wonderland here in the 6,000,000 sq ft Adirondack Park with only 
4 shopping days until Christmas to get those last minute projects completed and 
on to the recipient.

 

Michael 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Hey Michael hope all is well. So I should mess with the green stuff lol. I 
don't get to enough time but I am cleaning my LOM and put that double gear on 
that we talked about a few weeks ago.  The direction changing gear. 

So Curt and Michael do you power cut or climb cut when you run the green wood?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:27 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

Same here green wood is fun to work especially to turn like apple but that’s 
where it ends, having been in the business for over 60 years I always have a 
stash of air dried boards, turning stock and lumber on hand (yea my wife is 
always reminding me) even then you have to allow for movement and learn to read 
the grain.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Hey Curtis thanks for all the useful information. Good stuff! 

I'm not big about green wood but now you for sure have my interest. 

Are you taking any precautions to prevent rust on your equipment and tools or 
really don't

have problems with it?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Most of those were made yesterday, The wood bowls, NO. but most of the little 
things on the table were.

 

As far as preserving the wood, I just seal them with shellac, or wax. and leave 
them be...  If the turning is worth the effort, I like to use water 
displacement when possible. 

 

As a General rule of thumb the slower the wood dry's the more stable it 
becomes. By replacing the water with an oil in the wood, makes sure that the 
wood will not dry out fast. I like to use tung oil or linseed oil, but mineral 
oil also works.  

 

Its an OLD Sailors trick. When replacing a broken the wooden mast's on a ship, 
they would find a solid tree to replace the broken mast. The new tree is Green 
WOOD, What they did was, peal the bark off the tree, put a hole in the top of 
the new mast, and fill it with oil, then they would soak the new mast with the 
oil all the way down the sides. once done they would keep filling the dish/hole 
in the top of the mast, until the oil would find its way down to the bottom of 
the mast. at this point the oil displaced to water in the wood, and it was 
allowed to dry.

 

I use to do this on my wooden Dummy's. (Martial art/ "Wooden Man Dummy's". or 
called Mook Jongs.) They are 10" dia. body's 6 feet tall,  When the wood dried 
out, I had little to no cracking in the body's.  I made some 10-15 dummy's per 
year using this method for over 20 yrs. with very good success.

For small turnings, I soak in a bucket of oil for a few days to a week or more, 
and I've also used a pressure pot, to speed up the process, ( I know a vacuum 
chamber would also work, but I have not done this...)  after the water has  
been displaced, I let the part dry out.

If you get a chance try it for you self.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 10:29:19 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Lol I think Curt was implying he made those in one day. Hm

 

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 11:06 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

That's pretty cool!  I will have to take a picture of some of the stuff I have 
laying around.

Mike OK

On 12/19/2020 10:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

I've been working in the shop today, Lots of "Saw Dust Therapy"  but by a 
strange twist of luck I found out something that some here may like to know.

 

I picked up an Old AMT wood lathe for a friend on mine. who wants to learn how 
to turn wood. The AMT is a solidly made machine, the only thing wrong with it 
as far as I can see is the headstock, has a 3/4-16 threaded shaft adaptor, with 
out a #1 or #2 MT.

 

To make a long stor

RE: Mill work and Ideas.

[Michael Kratky]

Same here green wood is fun to work especially to turn like apple but that’s 
where it ends, having been in the business for over 60 years I always have a 
stash of air dried boards, turning stock and lumber on hand (yea my wife is 
always reminding me) even then you have to allow for movement and learn to read 
the grain.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mill work and Ideas.

 

Hey Curtis thanks for all the useful information. Good stuff! 

I'm not big about green wood but now you for sure have my interest. 

Are you taking any precautions to prevent rust on your equipment and tools or 
really don't

have problems with it?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Most of those were made yesterday, The wood bowls, NO. but most of the little 
things on the table were.

 

As far as preserving the wood, I just seal them with shellac, or wax. and leave 
them be...  If the turning is worth the effort, I like to use water 
displacement when possible. 

 

As a General rule of thumb the slower the wood dry's the more stable it 
becomes. By replacing the water with an oil in the wood, makes sure that the 
wood will not dry out fast. I like to use tung oil or linseed oil, but mineral 
oil also works.  

 

Its an OLD Sailors trick. When replacing a broken the wooden mast's on a ship, 
they would find a solid tree to replace the broken mast. The new tree is Green 
WOOD, What they did was, peal the bark off the tree, put a hole in the top of 
the new mast, and fill it with oil, then they would soak the new mast with the 
oil all the way down the sides. once done they would keep filling the dish/hole 
in the top of the mast, until the oil would find its way down to the bottom of 
the mast. at this point the oil displaced to water in the wood, and it was 
allowed to dry.

 

I use to do this on my wooden Dummy's. (Martial art/ "Wooden Man Dummy's". or 
called Mook Jongs.) They are 10" dia. body's 6 feet tall,  When the wood dried 
out, I had little to no cracking in the body's.  I made some 10-15 dummy's per 
year using this method for over 20 yrs. with very good success.

For small turnings, I soak in a bucket of oil for a few days to a week or more, 
and I've also used a pressure pot, to speed up the process, ( I know a vacuum 
chamber would also work, but I have not done this...)  after the water has  
been displaced, I let the part dry out.

If you get a chance try it for you self.

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 10:29:19 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Lol I think Curt was implying he made those in one day. Hm

 

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 11:06 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

That's pretty cool!  I will have to take a picture of some of the stuff I have 
laying around.

Mike OK

On 12/19/2020 10:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

 

I've been working in the shop today, Lots of "Saw Dust Therapy"  but by a 
strange twist of luck I found out something that some here may like to know.

 

I picked up an Old AMT wood lathe for a friend on mine. who wants to learn how 
to turn wood. The AMT is a solidly made machine, the only thing wrong with it 
as far as I can see is the headstock, has a 3/4-16 threaded shaft adaptor, with 
out a #1 or #2 MT.

 

To make a long story shorter. I was making some face plates and other parts for 
this lathe . I found out that a 3/8" pipe coupling has the exact thread as a 
3/4-16 tap. I did not need to chase the threads at all with this coupling, the 
threads matched ...  I know you can still buy faceplates and other 3/4-16 
parts, but knowing that 3/8" pipe fittings have the same thread can be a very 
easy make! (Think of it a useless trivia that may come in handy someday.) ;-)

 

I also found a lot of green wood (Tree clippings form a urban tree removal)  I 
picked up some birch, and choke cherry limbs 3"-5" dia. 

So I've been playing about with some lathe and Legacy turning's today. 

If you have not heard me say it before,  "Green Wood is Fun!"  (it cuts so 
easy!) "Dry wood is WORK".   IS SO TRUE!   "Boy" I had a good time today.

 

 LOT of Fun !~ ;-)

Here's some of my things that I made today.

C.A.G.

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RE: scroll saw blade feeding

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy, as my grand kids say (and my wife) “I’m always in the dark”.

 

LOL, 

Michael

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

nice 

thanks Michael, yea I get the eyes I need more and more light too. Im only 58


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:37 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

You right Timothy but the scroll saw does test the eyes especially when you’re 
in the 70’s like me, I see that many CNC’s have laser attachments anyone have 
one?

 

Speaking of therapeutic turning a nice big salad bowl does that for me.

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247


   

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 7:48 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Thanks for sharing Michael. 

I have both, and I love my laser but. nothing can give you the relaxing 
feeling of scrolling a nice piece of fret work or a cut out. 

Something very therapeutic about the scroll saw. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:44 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

I used a laser for a long time hollowing on my Powermatic 4224B lathe mostly 
for burial urns until this innovation from Trent Bosch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCg7jXCesEA

 

I also do scroll sawing but can’t help but wonder with the advent of laser 
technology if than can’t replace it?

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Great Bill,

 

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty sure whom ever it was will show up. I guess i 
initiated the conversation by commenting on your scroll saw back a few posts.

I think its fine to chat a bit about other things as long as we swing back to 
the LOM topics. Its how we get to know each other better. 

This little contest that Curtis ran opened up a lot of people too. I think its 
great. 

Thanks again and lets see who chimes in. lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:24 AM  wrote:

Ok I know this is not legacy at all but I’m sure I promised someone  to show a 
video of my laser top feeding on the scroll saw 

I can’t remember who.

So here it is  https://youtu.be/NPGWKz389Nk don’t worry its really short I also 
played around with the publishing a bit just for fun.

 

Bill

 


 
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RE: scroll saw blade feeding

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Hi Bill, 

Where the laser normally is but instead substituted with a camera which is then 
focused over the tool outside the vessel you trace with an erasable marker the 
outline of the tool on the monitor that has a plastic override screen so you 
can see the exact location of the tool at all times inside the vessel.

 

Many people smarter than me make their own version but Trent is a very good 
friend and everything he engineers makes and sells is top notch and my way of 
supporting him as he does it all himself in Fort Collins, Colorado.

 

Like this Legacy group we turners have friend all over the world such as you 
Bill.

 

So glad to know you,

Michael

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Fascinating I have not seen that before how does it work

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Michael Kratky
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2020 11:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: scroll saw blade feeding

 

I used a laser for a long time hollowing on my Powermatic 4224B lathe mostly 
for burial urns until this innovation from Trent Bosch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCg7jXCesEA

 

I also do scroll sawing but can’t help but wonder with the advent of laser 
technology if than can’t replace it?

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Great Bill,

 

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty sure whom ever it was will show up. I guess i 
initiated the conversation by commenting on your scroll saw back a few posts.

I think its fine to chat a bit about other things as long as we swing back to 
the LOM topics. Its how we get to know each other better. 

This little contest that Curtis ran opened up a lot of people too. I think its 
great. 

Thanks again and lets see who chimes in. lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:24 AM  wrote:

Ok I know this is not legacy at all but I’m sure I promised someone  to show a 
video of my laser top feeding on the scroll saw 

I can’t remember who.

So here it is  https://youtu.be/NPGWKz389Nk don’t worry its really short I also 
played around with the publishing a bit just for fun.

 

Bill

 


 
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RE: scroll saw blade feeding

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You right Timothy but the scroll saw does test the eyes especially when you’re 
in the 70’s like me, I see that many CNC’s have laser attachments anyone have 
one?

 

Speaking of therapeutic turning a nice big salad bowl does that for me.

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247


   

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 7:48 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Thanks for sharing Michael. 

I have both, and I love my laser but. nothing can give you the relaxing 
feeling of scrolling a nice piece of fret work or a cut out. 

Something very therapeutic about the scroll saw. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:44 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

I used a laser for a long time hollowing on my Powermatic 4224B lathe mostly 
for burial urns until this innovation from Trent Bosch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCg7jXCesEA

 

I also do scroll sawing but can’t help but wonder with the advent of laser 
technology if than can’t replace it?

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Great Bill,

 

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty sure whom ever it was will show up. I guess i 
initiated the conversation by commenting on your scroll saw back a few posts.

I think its fine to chat a bit about other things as long as we swing back to 
the LOM topics. Its how we get to know each other better. 

This little contest that Curtis ran opened up a lot of people too. I think its 
great. 

Thanks again and lets see who chimes in. lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:24 AM  wrote:

Ok I know this is not legacy at all but I’m sure I promised someone  to show a 
video of my laser top feeding on the scroll saw 

I can’t remember who.

So here it is  https://youtu.be/NPGWKz389Nk don’t worry its really short I also 
played around with the publishing a bit just for fun.

 

Bill

 


 
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RE: scroll saw blade feeding

[Michael Kratky]

I used a laser for a long time hollowing on my Powermatic 4224B lathe mostly 
for burial urns until this innovation from Trent Bosch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCg7jXCesEA

 

I also do scroll sawing but can’t help but wonder with the advent of laser 
technology if than can’t replace it?

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road 

Northville, NY 12134

(207) 207-7247

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 6:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: scroll saw blade feeding

 

Great Bill,

 

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty sure whom ever it was will show up. I guess i 
initiated the conversation by commenting on your scroll saw back a few posts.

I think its fine to chat a bit about other things as long as we swing back to 
the LOM topics. Its how we get to know each other better. 

This little contest that Curtis ran opened up a lot of people too. I think its 
great. 

Thanks again and lets see who chimes in. lol


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:24 AM  wrote:

Ok I know this is not legacy at all but I’m sure I promised someone  to show a 
video of my laser top feeding on the scroll saw 

I can’t remember who.

So here it is  https://youtu.be/NPGWKz389Nk don’t worry its really short I also 
played around with the publishing a bit just for fun.

 

Bill

 


 
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RE: Signing Your Work Question

[Michael Kratky]

What I’m considering without busting the budget but then again for 
woodworkers/turners what budget?

 

Highly rated, very affordable and they have smaller version 1 that can be 
mounted on the work piece horizontally or vertically

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMw2vqhJEOk

 

Your thoughts?

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Signing Your Work Question

 

Michael,

 

I agree with whomever is the person with the email mengel...@gmail.com 
<https://webmail.earthlink.net/wam/MsgReply?msgid=100011=reply=html=Reply=-607302313>
 . (Please tell us what name you go by. Thanks.)

 

He mentioned the Glowforge laser machine line.  I have a friend with one. He 
loves it and I am very impressed with it.  They seem to be a GREAT company with 
excellent customer service.  They do have at least one "pass-thru" model (maybe 
another by now).  And their pricing is very reasonable for what you get.

Just thought I'd share my 2¢ worth.

 

Wishing a Wonderful Weekend for all.

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Nov 28, 2020 9:24 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Signing Your Work Question 




Timothy, have been eyeballing them for 15 years, don’t have $20,000 to drop on 
Epilog and you’re limited to what fits inside their carcass.


  _  


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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 7:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Question

 

Epilog Michael Epilog


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


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On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:50 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

I’ve tried everything over the years, signature pens, medallion inserts, wood 
burning, carving, rotary engravers, branding irons and now I’m into laser 
engravers which is where I’m focusing as the prices are becoming very realistic 
other they are all made in China and the software that comes with them is lousy.

 

Michael


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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin

 

Ray,

Thanks.  Yes - I've noticed there are a handful of "pre-mades" and their 
"custom" ones are essentially pre-mades where they allow you one line of 
writing where you have xx number of letters/#s to add - for your name or phone 
number.

I'm hoping some more folks will contribute to this - addressing some of the 
points.

Hoping we will get a listing of companies/manufacturers of branding irons - 
especially elec ones with removable heads as well as places that will custom 
make one to your design.

Thanks again.

Mac


  _  


 

-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 10:59 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Ray her Mac. Yes it is possible to purchase other end pieces from Rockler but 
their selection is limited.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to make those burns in the cherry, take the photos, 
and share them with us.

Your pics addressed one thing I included in the "questions I posted.  Is your 
iron electric or heated by flame?  Photo answered it in your case.

The one question I failed to ask:  Is your "brand" (custom heated piece) on the 
end removable/replaceable?  Again, your photo answered the "removable" aspect - 
but I do wonder:  Are you able to order a second or third "brand" from Rockler 
(or, for others, whomever makes the iron that you own)?

I have seen some branding irons where the "brand" is a permanent part of the 
iron.

Thanks again.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 9:40 AM 
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Oops.  These pics got too big.  Sent from my iPhone rather from my PC.  Sorry.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 9:34 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:This is a 
pic of my branding iron and a scrap cherry test board.  Several tries arriving 
at the one in the lower right corner.

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RE: Signing Your Work Question

[Michael Kratky]

Timothy, have been eyeballing them for 15 years, don’t have $20,000 to drop on 
Epilog and you’re limited to what fits inside their carcass.

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 7:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Question

 

Epilog Michael Epilog


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:50 AM Michael Kratky  wrote:

I’ve tried everything over the years, signature pens, medallion inserts, wood 
burning, carving, rotary engravers, branding irons and now I’m into laser 
engravers which is where I’m focusing as the prices are becoming very realistic 
other they are all made in China and the software that comes with them is lousy.

 

Michael 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin

 

Ray,

Thanks.  Yes - I've noticed there are a handful of "pre-mades" and their 
"custom" ones are essentially pre-mades where they allow you one line of 
writing where you have xx number of letters/#s to add - for your name or phone 
number.

I'm hoping some more folks will contribute to this - addressing some of the 
points.

Hoping we will get a listing of companies/manufacturers of branding irons - 
especially elec ones with removable heads as well as places that will custom 
make one to your design.

Thanks again.

Mac


  _  


 

-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 10:59 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Ray her Mac. Yes it is possible to purchase other end pieces from Rockler but 
their selection is limited.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to make those burns in the cherry, take the photos, 
and share them with us.

Your pics addressed one thing I included in the "questions I posted.  Is your 
iron electric or heated by flame?  Photo answered it in your case.

The one question I failed to ask:  Is your "brand" (custom heated piece) on the 
end removable/replaceable?  Again, your photo answered the "removable" aspect - 
but I do wonder:  Are you able to order a second or third "brand" from Rockler 
(or, for others, whomever makes the iron that you own)?

I have seen some branding irons where the "brand" is a permanent part of the 
iron.

Thanks again.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 9:40 AM 
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Oops.  These pics got too big.  Sent from my iPhone rather from my PC.  Sorry.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 9:34 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:

This is a pic of my branding iron and a scrap cherry test board.  Several tries 
arriving at the one in the lower right corner.

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RE: Signing Your Work Question

[Michael Kratky]

I’ve tried everything over the years, signature pens, medallion inserts, wood 
burning, carving, rotary engravers, branding irons and now I’m into laser 
engravers which is where I’m focusing as the prices are becoming very realistic 
other they are all made in China and the software that comes with them is lousy.

 

Michael 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin

 

Ray,

Thanks.  Yes - I've noticed there are a handful of "pre-mades" and their 
"custom" ones are essentially pre-mades where they allow you one line of 
writing where you have xx number of letters/#s to add - for your name or phone 
number.

I'm hoping some more folks will contribute to this - addressing some of the 
points.

Hoping we will get a listing of companies/manufacturers of branding irons - 
especially elec ones with removable heads as well as places that will custom 
make one to your design.

Thanks again.

Mac

  _  

 

-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 10:59 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Ray her Mac. Yes it is possible to purchase other end pieces from Rockler but 
their selection is limited.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to make those burns in the cherry, take the photos, 
and share them with us.

Your pics addressed one thing I included in the "questions I posted.  Is your 
iron electric or heated by flame?  Photo answered it in your case.

The one question I failed to ask:  Is your "brand" (custom heated piece) on the 
end removable/replaceable?  Again, your photo answered the "removable" aspect - 
but I do wonder:  Are you able to order a second or third "brand" from Rockler 
(or, for others, whomever makes the iron that you own)?

I have seen some branding irons where the "brand" is a permanent part of the 
iron.

Thanks again.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Ray Leaman 
Sent: Nov 27, 2020 9:40 AM 
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: Signing Your Work Questiin 

Oops.  These pics got too big.  Sent from my iPhone rather from my PC.  Sorry.

 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 9:34 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:

This is a pic of my branding iron and a scrap cherry test board.  Several tries 
arriving at the one in the lower right corner.





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RE: Downsizing Photos for Transmission to the Group

[Michael Kratky]

2nd that! 

 

Happy Thanksgiving everyone even for those outside the USA as this group is all 
about Thanksgiving.

 

Michael Kratky

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

119 Riverview Road

Northville, NY 12134

(518) 863-2821

(518) 207-7247 mobile

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 11:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downsizing Photos for Transmission to the Group

 

Curtis you are always a great help to everyone. Thanks for all you do and how 
you make people feel so welcome. 

You're a great inspiration for the group. 

I think I finally caught up to everyone tonight on the email. lol. whew.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Yes .   Everything looks great. I am glad that I could help. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 10:29:26 PM EST, Ray Leaman 
 wrote: 

 

 

Actually, I tried a couple of additional emails with attached photos w/o doing 
anything. it looks like they are being accepted.  Have you seen any of them 
yet? 

 

I did get a reply saying at least one had been received and looked ok.

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 9:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Did it work for you

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 10:22:15 AM EST, Ray Leaman 
 wrote: 

 

 

It doesn't necessarily follow that if you can do it anyone (meaning me) can do 
it too but thanks again.

 

Ray

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 9:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

I hope this works for you? IF I can do it, Anyone can do it... ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 08:31:29 AM EST, Ray Leaman 
 wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Curt.  That sounds like it will work most easily.

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:18 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.

Just got home form work.

 

Ray , I don't know if this will work for you, but how I reduce my photos is.

Go to the photo or file. Right click on the photo, then go to edit, when the 
photo come up you can click on re-size. then resize and skew box pops up, 
reduce photo by 50 or smaller. then save as, I normal label the photo what ever 
name was given and then Add RED after it. this way you have to original and the 
RED (reduced) photo. then all you need to do is copy and paste it to an e-mail 
as an attachment.

 

I hope this helps?

 

Best of luck Ray, and I cant wait to see what photos you have to share. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020, 09:52:31 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

 

 

Sure be worth a try Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:31 PM  wrote:

I don’t know if you can follow this but what I do to shrink my pics is I 
display it on my desk top 

(not full screen about ½ the screens size)

 

then I take a snip of it with windows snipping tool and then save that to the 
desktop and it is usually under 1 meg in size. 

 

I hope that helps

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 9:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downsizing Photos for Transmission to the Group

 

Yeah.  I'm not clear on that yet either.

 

Ray

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:40 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

ok but how do we shrink them down?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:48 PM  wrote:

I try to keep my pic sizes to about 3 megabits in total and it seems to get 
through ok 

So three 1 megabit photos per email should get through but Tim K can answer 
this better than me he is the exert

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 7:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downsizing Photos for Transmission to the Group

 

So I'd llke to share some pics with the group.

I just sent two test photos and it looks like only one of them got to the 
website.

Curt told me a while back to be sure to down size pics or they will be rejected.

Can someone share how to properly size photos on my end ?  I did not see a way 
to manage sizing in my photo file but it must be there somewhere right?  

I'm using Microsoft Windows 10 - Chrome browser.

 

Ray

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RE: Who wants to buy a priceless piece of art cheap?

[Michael Kratky]

Harvey, at least only your pride was hurt as fellow woodturner here with the 
Adirondack Woodturners a few years back had his face rearranged when an inside 
out turning flew apart on the lathe at 3000 RPM.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 6:59 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Who wants to buy a priceless piece of art cheap?

 

Project2 is the priceless object.

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:57 PM Harvey  wrote:

My wife didn't buy it (or like it) either.

 

I was right there by the machine watching it when I noticed that the router bit 
cut through the piece but it was still together.  I hit the wrong button and 
before I could recover, it collapsed into itself, jamming the router bit.  I 
finally hit the e-stop, turned the router off, but the machine did not respond. 
 I turned everything off, got everything apart, then I took pictures.  I wished 
that I was filming it at the time to document what happened.  That at least 
would have been a positive.

 

 

 

 

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RE: Who wants to buy a priceless piece of art cheap?

[Michael Kratky]

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Matyas
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 11:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Who wants to buy a priceless piece of art cheap?

 

It started out okay.  Attached is a picture showing the two holders that I made 
for the head and tail stock.

Also, the finish cut before I took it apart to turn the pieces inside out.

 

I patterned it after I saw Curts holder for the LOM.

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 8:55 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

Yes please keep us in the loop Harvey. 

We are all prone to having a miss hap or too so this will be a good lesson to 
pass on to all. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:54 PM Harvey Matyas  wrote:

I was trying my first inside ornament.  Since I did not know how deep to go on 
the first side, I took a guess.  I was wrong.  

I will try again but I have already made changes.  

On the tailstock, I originally drilled a piece of plywood and locked it against 
the circle plate on the tailstock with a bolt.  It did not hold.  I found a .48 
inch collar (or whatever it's called).  I drilled it

out to 1/2 inch and I will be able to tighten an allen screw to secure it 
better to the tailstock.  

I also drilled a 60 degree hole (because the tailstock had a 60 degree point) 
in plastic instead of the plywood

because I thought that it would (holder) rotate better with the headstock.  

As I was "rounding" the second side, I noticed that the router bit was bouncing 
all over the place.  I'm not sure if it is because

of the hold that I made or that the CNC is not that tight or I started with too 
deep a cut..  

I'm just glad I was there when it failed.

 

So for my next attempt.  I will do a very shallow cut before I reverse the 4 
pieces.

Use the collar for the tailstock.  

When rounding the second side, not as deep a cut.

 

If anyone is interested, I'll report back with the results.

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:36 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

Others probably got it already but what was it meant to be before it became 
artwork?

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:57 PM Harvey  wrote:

My wife didn't buy it (or like it) either.

 

I was right there by the machine watching it when I noticed that the router bit 
cut through the piece but it was still together.  I hit the wrong button and 
before I could recover, it collapsed into itself, jamming the router bit.  I 
finally hit the e-stop, turned the router off, but the machine did not respond. 
 I turned everything off, got everything apart, then I took pictures.  I wished 
that I was filming it at the time to document what happened.  That at least 
would have been a positive.

 

 

 

 

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RE: latest rosette

[Michael Kratky]

Wow that’s great,  gotta get my 1200 out of moth balls and put it to use.

 

Michael

 

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Ok enough about fish back to legacy here is my latest video to come as soon as 
I edit and upload it 

 

 

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RE: Headstock spindle

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Along the same lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaxvPDmYyQ

Also have the Powermatic 4224B a well thought out and engineered lathe that 
also came with a built in vacuum chucking system,  the plastic bushing came 
with it for the chuck to bottom against and to ease removal. Professional 
woodturner Nick Cook designed it for Powermatic.

 

Michael Kratky 

Black Bear Art & Woodworking Studios

Northville, NY 12134 

But more new home, shop builder and sawyer these days when I’m not doing 
Electrical Inspections.

 

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 12:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headstock spindle

 

definitely looks like a good solution. I have the Powermatic 4224B lathe and it 
has a shoulder and a thin plastic washer to chuck up against. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:04 AM  wrote:

With the noticeable wobble of a chuck on headstock try this 
https://ornamentalmills.com/tips/spindle_shoulder/index.html

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Bryce George
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:06 AM
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Subject: Headstock spindle

 

I am in need of a headstock spindle for a Legacy Model 1200. The Morse taper is 
true but, the threads are not aligned with the center of the shaft.  When I 
attached the four-jaw chuck, there is a noticeable wobble.  

 

Is this piece available?  What is the price and how do I order one?


 

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RE: my front yard

[Michael Kratky]

 

Bill, 

Totally agree with Tim, leaves are down, it’s cold and damp with snow in the 
forecast here in the Adirondacks, the new 1000 sq ft shop has a ways to go 
before it sees any heat so feel free to send some this way.

 

What’s the temp there now?

Michael

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 6:44 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: my front yard

 

Wow that is a beautiful site Bill.  Looks like it came right out of a book. 

Love the pond in the far right foreground too.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:41 AM  wrote:

Some days I just love where I live this is my front yard I took this pic 10min 
ago

 

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Rubio Monocote

[Michael Kratky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFcsC7C1vmE 
 =emb_logo

 

Because Rubio Monocote needs to be rubbed in and buffed I don’t believe its 
ideal for many Legacy “turnings” where it will build up in the recesses but 
more ideal for flat surfaces, also for red cedar it would darken it.

 

I was in Woodcraft Store in West Springfield, Massachusetts 2 weeks ago they 
stocked it and it’s pricy. 

 

There are so many finished out there that you need a PHD to even begin to sort 
them all out but after over 60 years of woodworking/woodturning experience I 
have a petty good handle on most of them. 

 

Snow in the forecast here (global warming) J.

 

Michael K

 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Live edge cedar coffee table

 

Regarding the finish - it looks great.

 

Has anyone worked with a "finish" product by Rubio (company name) - called 
Monocoat (the finishing product)?

 

Mac

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From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Oct 25, 2020 7:24 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Live edge cedar coffee table 

Hey David,

 

Beautiful work.

I can see why the customer was happy. I'm guessing very ecstatic actually 
right. 

Keep up the great work. 

What are some of your joinery process's you used?

Noting also the high gloss sheen? what product did you use for that? 

Did you spray?

 

Can't say enough very nice craftsmanship. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell


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Here’s my version of what a cedar live edge coffee table should look like. 
Turned out better than expected and the customer is very pleased. This was the 
last project with my old “steely “ model legacy, still working on the new on.



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RE: Live edge cedar coffee table

[Michael Kratky]

David,
Very nice striking wood and workmanship, red cedar is hard to come by here in 
the Adirondacks being a sawyer for over 20 years I've never come across any of 
those logs to mill, interestingly what there is get shipped to Canada where 
they process it but talking with a logger the other day the border is still 
closed so their industry is hurting.

Michael K 




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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Live edge cedar coffee table

Here’s my version of what a cedar live edge coffee table should look like. 
Turned out better than expected and the customer is very pleased. This was the 
last project with my old “steely “ model legacy, still working on the new on.

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RE: letterbox

[Michael Kratky]

Thanks Bill, why I bought my 1200.

 

Michael

 

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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: letterbox

 

Because it’s a bit quiet on the group here is a couple of pics of my triple 
spiral project I did several years ago

 

Made from pine the 2 outer spirals were 4 start with 2 starts removed and the 
3rd inner is a 3 start rope

I have showed this before but a few may not have seen it. Shows what great 
stuff our legacys can do it was made on a revo mill but could also be done on 
the regular mills

 

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RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex-business dealings

[Michael Kratky]

Don’t know how many of you engage in part or whole of trying to recoup a 
minimal return on your LOM investment and other associated 
woodworking/woodturning equipment and materials by retailing your wares in 
craft shows, eBay, or Etsy but returns (complaints) are part of the norm its 
always the lady’s an in most cases months after the sale the iconic thing is 
that its suppose to be a form of therapy away from all of the trials and 
tribulations of daily life. 

 

Michael

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:52 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

 

Michael,

 

That lady is also probably one that puts all her aluminum kitchen items in the 
dishwasher and then wonders why they all now look like crap. (When new, they 
went in nice and shiney - and came out all dull looking, never to look nice 
again.)

 

I trust you "refunded" her with a pocket-full of wooden nickels.

Mac

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From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Jul 29, 2020 2:40 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex 




Mac,

 

LOL, it was my wife’s insistence I refund her money, being all too familiar 
with divorce costs it was but a pittance to pay. 

 

Michael 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

 

Michael,

Sorry to hear about your cutting board business being "all washed up".  

I contacted Dr Anthony Fauci about a "cure" for that lady.   He informed me 
that, unfortunately, there is little to no hope for a cure for that "infectious 
malady" (commonly referred to as STUPID).  In fact, he told me it seems to 
becoming more prevalent than ever before.

If you make any more, perhaps brand a warning on the bottom:  "Do not put in 
dishwater nor the dishwasher!"  And in her case - brand it on BOTH sides!

Mac


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From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Jul 29, 2020 9:43 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex 





Have never made 3D cutting boards from a band saw the way Alex does but many on 
a table saw; got very much into them 2-3 years ago but couldn’t sell them for a 
profit considering the time and materials then the icing on the cake was last 
year when I had to give the money back to a lady who ran one thru her 
dishwasher that caused it to separate.

 

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router

 

I have seen a bit of the 3d cutting boards just the previews of it. I have his 
videos on setting and tuning up bandsaws 

 

Very informative guy

 

Bill


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 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 11:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: triton router

 

Thanks, Bill.

 

Alex Snodgrass is an excellent presenter/instructor.

I always enjoy attending his seminars/demonstrations at The Woodworking Shows.

 

I wonder if he has any similar presentations for other electrical shop tools - 
like repairing a Porter Cable 7518 Router.

 

If you haven't seen his sessions of making 3D Cutting Boards, you need to!

 

Cheers!

Mac


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Sent: Jul 28, 2020 8:04 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: triton router 



Anybody in the group with a triton router might find this interesting

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA 
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RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

[Michael Kratky]

Mac,

 

LOL, it was my wife’s insistence I refund her money, being all too familiar 
with divorce costs it was but a pittance to pay. 

 

Michael 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

 

Michael,

Sorry to hear about your cutting board business being "all washed up".  

I contacted Dr Anthony Fauci about a "cure" for that lady.   He informed me 
that, unfortunately, there is little to no hope for a cure for that "infectious 
malady" (commonly referred to as STUPID).  In fact, he told me it seems to 
becoming more prevalent than ever before.

If you make any more, perhaps brand a warning on the bottom:  "Do not put in 
dishwater nor the dishwasher!"  And in her case - brand it on BOTH sides!

Mac

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-----Original Message- 
From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Jul 29, 2020 9:43 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex 




Have never made 3D cutting boards from a band saw the way Alex does but many on 
a table saw; got very much into them 2-3 years ago but couldn’t sell them for a 
profit considering the time and materials then the icing on the cake was last 
year when I had to give the money back to a lady who ran one thru her 
dishwasher that caused it to separate.

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router

 

I have seen a bit of the 3d cutting boards just the previews of it. I have his 
videos on setting and tuning up bandsaws 

 

Very informative guy

 

Bill


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 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 11:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: triton router

 

Thanks, Bill.

 

Alex Snodgrass is an excellent presenter/instructor.

I always enjoy attending his seminars/demonstrations at The Woodworking Shows.

 

I wonder if he has any similar presentations for other electrical shop tools - 
like repairing a Porter Cable 7518 Router.

 

If you haven't seen his sessions of making 3D Cutting Boards, you need to!

 

Cheers!

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jul 28, 2020 8:04 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: triton router 




Anybody in the group with a triton router might find this interesting

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA=em-uploademail> 
=em-uploademail

 

Bill



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RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

[Michael Kratky]

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

 

Michael,

Sorry to hear about your cutting board business being "all washed up".  

I contacted Dr Anthony Fauci about a "cure" for that lady.   He informed me 
that, unfortunately, there is little to no hope for a cure for that "infectious 
malady" (commonly referred to as STUPID).  In fact, he told me it seems to 
becoming more prevalent than ever before.

If you make any more, perhaps brand a warning on the bottom:  "Do not put in 
dishwater nor the dishwasher!"  And in her case - brand it on BOTH sides!

Mac

  _  

  _____  

-----Original Message- 
From: Michael Kratky 
Sent: Jul 29, 2020 9:43 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex 




Have never made 3D cutting boards from a band saw the way Alex does but many on 
a table saw; got very much into them 2-3 years ago but couldn’t sell them for a 
profit considering the time and materials then the icing on the cake was last 
year when I had to give the money back to a lady who ran one thru her 
dishwasher that caused it to separate.

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router

 

I have seen a bit of the 3d cutting boards just the previews of it. I have his 
videos on setting and tuning up bandsaws 

 

Very informative guy

 

Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 11:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: triton router

 

Thanks, Bill.

 

Alex Snodgrass is an excellent presenter/instructor.

I always enjoy attending his seminars/demonstrations at The Woodworking Shows.

 

I wonder if he has any similar presentations for other electrical shop tools - 
like repairing a Porter Cable 7518 Router.

 

If you haven't seen his sessions of making 3D Cutting Boards, you need to!

 

Cheers!

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jul 28, 2020 8:04 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: triton router 




Anybody in the group with a triton router might find this interesting

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA=em-uploademail> 
=em-uploademail

 

Bill



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RE: triton router-3D cutting boards by Alex

[Michael Kratky]

Have never made 3D cutting boards from a band saw the way Alex does but many on 
a table saw; got very much into them 2-3 years ago but couldn’t sell them for a 
profit considering the time and materials then the icing on the cake was last 
year when I had to give the money back to a lady who ran one thru her 
dishwasher that caused it to separate.

 

Michael

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 8:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: triton router

 

I have seen a bit of the 3d cutting boards just the previews of it. I have his 
videos on setting and tuning up bandsaws 

 

Very informative guy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2020 11:06 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: triton router

 

Thanks, Bill.

 

Alex Snodgrass is an excellent presenter/instructor.

I always enjoy attending his seminars/demonstrations at The Woodworking Shows.

 

I wonder if he has any similar presentations for other electrical shop tools - 
like repairing a Porter Cable 7518 Router.

 

If you haven't seen his sessions of making 3D Cutting Boards, you need to!

 

Cheers!

Mac

  _  

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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Jul 28, 2020 8:04 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: triton router 



Anybody in the group with a triton router might find this interesting

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA 
 
=em-uploademail

 

Bill



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RE: triton router

[Michael Kratky]

Have 2 of them for my router tables, they are quite different than any other 
but ideal for that use as you don’t need a separate lift mechanism; not sure 
what the video is all  about as Alex simply totally dissembles and reassembles 
one  assuming you can get parts.

 

Michael 

 

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Subject: triton router

 

Anybody in the group with a triton router might find this interesting

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgW8YS8ZXA 
 
=em-uploademail

 

 

Bill

 


 

 

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RE: Master Membership List

[Michael Kratky]

Again it would have to be password protected but someone I the group would have 
to coordinate that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 2:21 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Master Membership List

 

 

I personally am not objective to someone getting my name etc... but

Just my two cents worth but I don't think anyone can legally provide a "Master 
List" to everyone that belongs to the Forum. 

Please don't take this the wrong way. I think only the guys that run the Forum 
would be allowed to have names etc...

Curtis, Tim


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:

I've looked as best I can thru this site but seem to not have gotten at least a 
part of this thread that some folks seem to be answering re: a master list of 
members.  What is it that people are responding to in identifying where they 
are located and is there now or is there going to be some sort of master list 
of members?

 

Thanks

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:32 AM Steven Jacobs  wrote:

I would like to meet members in the area. I am in West Tennessee. My building 
will be finished next week giving my Revo and 900 CNC a place to work.

 

Steve Jacobs 





On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:11 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 

 

Hello Donald. 

I'm in Michigan, North of Detroit.

 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:02:41 PM UTC-4, Donald Donley wrote:

I'm interested in contacting local members that have LOMs - is there a master 
list of members - a complete list would be great but my needs now are for 
Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware - just curious who the EXPERTS are 
in my area - Don from Elizabethtown, Pa.

 

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RE: Master Membership List

[Michael Kratky]

The AAW (American Association of Woodturners) as far back as I can remember 
publishes a detailed list of all its members with membership renewal which is 
also accessible on line with a member ID and password.

 

Michael 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Dotta
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 5:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Master Membership List

 

Hi All

 

I know it has been the policy that there is not a master list available to all 
and there are several good reasons for that to be the case.

 

However there are also several good reasons for such a list to be available.  
Perhaps a viable solution would be if such a list were on a voluntary basis

 

thus allowing LOM owners to choose to participate without imposing on anyone 
choosing to not participate.   I realize it is easy to make suggestions for 

 

someone else to implement and if anyone actually does the work to create a 
voluntary list I appreciate the effort and thank them very much.

 

It does seem a shame that two or three owners could live closeby or within an 
easy commute and not even know that the others exist.

 

Thanks also to all of the people who take the time to share and  keep the 
thread going.  Ornamental Turners International (the Holtz, Bower, Evans 

 

& Goya people have long had such a published list and I've never heard a member 
complain. 

 

Cheers  Tom DottaHollister Calif.

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:14 PM Steven Jacobs  wrote:

Brighton. Just northeast of Memphis.

 





On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Cole Andrews  wrote:

 

What part of West TN?

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 23, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



 

I personally am not objective to someone getting my name etc... but

Just my two cents worth but I don't think anyone can legally provide a "Master 
List" to everyone that belongs to the Forum. 

Please don't take this the wrong way. I think only the guys that run the Forum 
would be allowed to have names etc...

Curtis, Tim


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ray Leaman  wrote:

I've looked as best I can thru this site but seem to not have gotten at least a 
part of this thread that some folks seem to be answering re: a master list of 
members.  What is it that people are responding to in identifying where they 
are located and is there now or is there going to be some sort of master list 
of members?

 

Thanks

 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:32 AM Steven Jacobs  wrote:

I would like to meet members in the area. I am in West Tennessee. My building 
will be finished next week giving my Revo and 900 CNC a place to work.

 

Steve Jacobs 





On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:11 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 

 

Hello Donald. 

I'm in Michigan, North of Detroit.

 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:02:41 PM UTC-4, Donald Donley wrote:

I'm interested in contacting local members that have LOMs - is there a master 
list of members - a complete list would be great but my needs now are for 
Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware - just curious who the EXPERTS are 
in my area - Don from Elizabethtown, Pa.

 

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RE: Master Membership List

[Michael Kratky]

Same here I’m in northern NY.

 

Michael 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Donley
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:57 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Master Membership List

 

Thanks Cole - It's nice to know someone is thinking the same thing

 

 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:30 PM Cole Andrews  wrote:

I agree except I am in Middle TN.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Donald Donley  wrote:



I'm interested in contacting local members that have LOMs - is there a master 
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Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware - just curious who the EXPERTS are 
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RE: Happy Independence day everyone. (4th of July)

[Michael Kratky]

Thank you Curt, 

 

Even thought the Country is currently upside down when given lemons make 
lemonade. 

 

Here in the tiny village of Northville on the Great Sacandaga Lake in the 
3,000,000 acre Adirondack State Park we’re blessed with 500’ of Lake frontage 
and all it has to offer, although the population is around 900 it’s currently 
over 50,000.

 

Free Free July 4th Clipart, Download Free Clip Art, Free Clip Art ...

Michael Kratky 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2020 11:16 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills
Subject: Happy Independence day everyone. (4th of July)

 

HI everyone, I Just got home form work,  

 

I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable 4th of July celebration this weekend.

 

Take care everyone.  

 

 

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Time of life

[Michael Kratky]

Same sediments here, interestingly I find myself in a similar situation as I 
purchased my 1200 in 2004 and can count the number of times on one hand that 
I’ve used it, accordingly would like to sell it someone who always wanted one 
as the sands in the hour glass are running out for me.

 

Michael 

Northville, NY 12134

 

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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Time of life

 

Good luck with all your future endeavours Ryan good bye from me and the group 
always sad to see a member go I hope we see the knew owner of your mill here in 
the future  

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of rtjurg...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2020 11:35 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Time of life

 

In 2006 I bought a brand new Legacy 1200 with Z-axis upgrade, extra gear set, 
rotary table, and a design kit.

 

At that point in time I also began my house rebuilding, so as a result, I 
didn't put the LOM together.

 

Finally, in November of 2019 I assembled the machine. 

 

I played around with it, but I discovered something strange. I have been a 
hobbyist woodworker for decades and have a very good setup here. Over the years 
I have purchased some very good machines and obtained a lot of good tools. But 
somehow I lost the interest in the LOM and didn't have the desire to go through 
the learning curve to know how to use it well. In addition, as a former CNC 
machinist, I was somewhat disappointed in the stability of the machine. 

 

Also, I have been really enjoying my basic machines, and I have been getting a 
number of orders for the Murphy beds that I build.

 

The end result? Out of the blue someone contacted me and wondered if I still 
had it. He saw Andy demo the machine way back in 2006 at a wood show in 
Milwaukee (probably the same show I was at) and he has always wanted one. All 
things aside, my wife and I talked it over and I decided to let it go to 
someone who had a lot of interest in it and a real desire to use it as it 
should be used. 

 

With that being said, I will now bow out of this group and say my goodbyes. 
Everyone, have fun with your machines and crank away!

 

I retired two years ago, got married a bit over a year ago, and am now 
preparing to build a house in the Philippines so that we can spend three months 
per year over there. And soon I may make a move across the country to be near 
my daughter and three grandkids. (25, 21, and 11)

 

Take care everyone.

 

Ryan Jurgens

(414) 975-5860

rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net

 

 

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RE: patents, copyrights, trademarks

[Michael Kratky]

That was easy….

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hennen
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

 

>From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings for 
>split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a line.  
>As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut them then do 
>it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as a FREE download 
>to anyone that wants to download them.  

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

FYI:

 

A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the 
patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain 
the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted 
protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.

A U.S. trademark generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in commerce 
and defended against infringement.

Copyright protection is for a limited term. For works created after January 1, 
1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the author. For works 
"made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by a small business), 
the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year of its first 
publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever 
expires first. 

Michael

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Height gauge

 

Good suggestion.

You never know until you ask...

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens  
wrote: 

 

 

Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making 
them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Denson

That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 

I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 

I don't think its a good idea.

 

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Hey fellers, 

I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 

I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 

Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!

 

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork  wrote:



On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:

Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

 

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.

Cheers

Roger in UK 

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RE: Question on the Legacy's Z axis

[Michael Kratky]

Apparently there’s quite a few us in that 70+ bracket….

 

Michael in the Adirondacks

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bawdsey64
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2020 1:46 PM
To: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Question on the Legacy's Z axis

 

Hi Denson

Don't use the 75 year old newbie label here, that is young!  Plus anyway it is 
only a number. Apparently I am, according to my birth certificate, 78 this year 
but the guy I see in the morning is no older than 25​. Hence my comment it is 
only a number and does Bill down under want to buy my magic mirror?

Stick with Magnate, damn good cutters and I sold a fair few of them when I was 
Legacy's European Agent and only had 3 or 4 that were out of spec.Cheers

Roger in UK.

​

 

​

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Received: 09/05/2020 18:30:28 +01:00

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Thanks for all the help. I’m sure, as a 75 year old newbie, I’ll be back.

Oh just thought of another question. 

Does any company such as MLCS make a set of router bits to equal Magnate sets?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On May 9, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:



​

Good morning, still can not find the profile follower photos... ;-(

 

Denson for manuals send Tim a e-mail. he has all that info. on file.

 

As for the Z axis topic.   

 

Amazon is awesome for things like this.

 

As for me, I really like the R (Rack and Pinon) controls, I find it better 
all the way around form using a lead screw. (personal preference )

 

I also think that a 5"- 7" depth is all that is needed for most jobs, there is 
no reasoning to go with a monster set-up, it just cost to much money, and is 
not worth the added expense. 
https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Actuator-Ballscrew-Double-Optical/dp/B07RLF9DPL/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1
 

 =z+axis=1589038200=8-8 

I use this as an example, 

   

$148.99

 

​

   

$156.60

 

​

   

$169.99

 

​

   

$189.99

 

​

   

$219.00

 

​

   

$239.00

 

 

  I have also have started using a smaller router motor  (to limit the weight)  
For Me, I find the 3 1/2 horse PC router that Legacy rec emended is a huge over 
kill, The Alum. rails and bushings cannot handle the tork of this kind of motor 
cutting at full depth of cut. I find for my Legacy, a 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 horse 
power is plenty of power for cutting most wood projects. 

 

Side Note to Bill & Joe.  Do you have any photos of your Z axis's you both 
made? Also Joe... YOUR monster Z axis was breathtaking to see, I would very 
much like your input on this as well, Do you think I am correct? or not... 
"everything has it purpose and place".  ;-)

 

Have a good day everyone, Keep this topic going, it a lot of fun... ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 09:39:07 AM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:

 

 

Thanks to all of you. Good information.

One more question. Does anyone know where I can get the template for design 
work? Also any instructional books or videos on the LOM 1200?

Thanks again

Denson

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question on the Legacy's Z axis

 

Hello again. One more note.

Amazon has lots of Z axis and Linear rail that the prices are pretty good. It 
might not hurt to look some of them up, Just perhaps you will be able to find 
something that you can add to your machines? Perhaps something like this...

 

 
https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Actuator-Ballscrew-Double-Optical/dp/B07RLF9DPL/ref=sr_1_12?d
 ​

   ​

Linear Stage Actuator 100mm 

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 01:27:14 AM EDT,  wrote:

 

 

Stop build it then fix any issues as they happen I think, a plunge router on a 
Z axis is needed if it’s a tilting router on the Z axis​

 ​

Bill​

 ​

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of artmarb...@comcast.net
Sent: 

RE: Yorkshire grit

[Michael Kratky]

Have been using Yorksire Grit and Hampshire Sheen for couple of years now on my 
turnings great products.

 

Michael

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit

 

Bill,

 

So, are you going to become the new distributor for:

Yorkshire, Hampshire, Woodshire, Polyshire, and all the other "shire" abrasive 
pastes for the "Land Down Under"?

 

Let us know what all products you will be representing/selling.

Best of luck.

Mac

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From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Apr 20, 2020 1:38 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit 




Thanks mac I did try and failed but curt offered to forward it off to me so I 
used his address and it worked fine so it looks like I’m ok, thank you for your 
offer mac and thank you to everyone in the group who tried to help me greatly 
appreciated 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April 2020 2:46 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit

 

Bill,

The "authorized distributor" here in the USA is a place called "The Walnut Log".

I went to their site and started to place an order - inputting in that the 
product will be shipped to Australia.

So far - it has not rejected me.  In fact, the next step is asking me which 
state/territory?  I'm stuck - since I do not have your mailing info.

I suggest you go to their web site and place your order: 

 "The Walnut Log"

 

If that fails to work out, email me directly (you have my email address - we've 
emailed before) and I will see what I can do to help you place an order/get 
your Yorkshire Grit.

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Apr 20, 2020 6:51 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit 





Thank you Brigitte

I tried the check out at olivers woodturning and Australia is not in the list 
of countries so that is the end of that

And on amazon it said this item cannot be shipped to Australia 

So im back to square one I am going to try every avenue for yorkshire before I 
make my own.

So still looking if anyone out there sees it in a shop please buy it and let me 
know and I will reimburse you for it through paypal

Thank you all very much for all your help so far

Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 7:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Subject: Re: Yorkshire grit

 

Morning Bill (or probably good evening),

Yorkshire Grit is available from Amazon, but is also available from here << 
 
https://www.oliverswoodturning.co.uk/product/yorkshire-grit/>> 

(It is cheaper from Olivers, nearly half the Amazon price!!)

But failing that, if you can't wait till the World gets back to normal (?), 
here is a link to a recipe for making your own

<<  
https://www.woodturningbasics.com/tag/yorkshire-grit-recipe/>>





How is the landscape recovering after all the fires?

Cheers

Brigitte


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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 08:54,  wrote:

Yes I am, the owner told me has discontinued his business and is all out of 
Yorkshire grit and of course is no longer the distributer 





Bill


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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 3:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit

 

Bill,

I went to mothership for "Yorkshire Grit" and like Ryan Hellmer states, they 
have links there for places all over the world that supposedly sell it.  I 
found there is a seller in Australia - "Perfect Pend and Pencils".  Are you 
familiar with them?

Here's a link to their web page:

 

https://www.perfectpensandpencils.com.au/#!/Yorkshire-Grit/c/24014005/offset=0 

 =priceAsc

 

Best of luck to you and your "project".

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Apr 19, 2020 11:35 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Yorkshire grit



If all else fails yes





Bill


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From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2020 12:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yorkshire grit

 

No first hand info on this, But I just found a home made version that looks 
pretty easy to make...

It might be worth the effort to try?

 

C.A.G.

 

RE: magic from the past mystery

[Michael Kratky]

Bill,

Nice design, I make these by the scores when I volunteer to do woodturning 
public demos for the several turning Clubs I belong to and give them away to 
the kids (of all ages) not on my Legacy but in 3-5 minutes depending on the 
wood species with a skew on the lathe. Did a few craft shows and tried selling 
them but not big sellers, fun to make though unless you’re using some of that 
tough wood around you.

 

Can imagine the trauma having your house burn down L,

Michael

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 8:21 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: magic from the past mystery

 

I was driving along down in my paddock this morning and I saw this in the grass 
I don’t have a clue how it got there, I made this on my revo before my house 
burnt down last I saw this it was in a vase with 5 or 6 others in my old house 
8 years ago. How it got from there to the paddock 300 yards away unscathed and 
not too badly weathered is the mystery?

 

Harry potter movies where popular back then which is why I made this wand don’t 
ask me what wood(might be redgum) or what pitch or anything the only thing I 
remember is it’s a 3 start done with the 1/2inch rope bit and I stuffed up the 
indexing the 3 starts are not even.

Typical all my nice ones burnt and the crappy one was the one to survive all 
that 

 

Bill 

 

 


 

 

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RE: legacy cnc spindle mill

[Michael Kratky]

Now I get it.

MichaelJ

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okla Mike 
(Liltwisted)
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 11:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: legacy cnc spindle mill

 

Sometimes it's not the Spindle but the square on the ends that requires the 
extra swing.  Point to point of a 10" square is 14 inches.

Mike OK

On 4/1/2020 10:11 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Michael

 

I make Mook Jong's  (Wooden Man) martial art dummy's. they are 10" in dia.  all 
done in the Legacy.

Here is a pix on one plywood turned dummy.

C.A.G.

 

On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, 08:31:12 AM EDT, Michael Kratky  
<mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com>  wrote: 

 

 

Bill, 

Just curious what spindle would one make that’s 10 inches in diameter or larger?

Michael

 

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bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: legacy cnc spindle mill

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHUcNxai474

 

I was browsing all of legacys videos and

 

I wonder what ever happened to this legacy cnc mill  a couple of videos then 
nothing

I looked like it might turn larger spindles than the standard 10inch dia that 
all their mills do now.I couldn’t find any specs on it 

Not that I can afford one but I am interested on its specifications for my own 
interest.

 

Bill

 

 


 
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