Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
On 16/10/2011 02:06, James Cook wrote: For #2, the best I can come up with is to go to the Assigned Sources screen for each individual. From there, you can select the source in the list on the top half, and then in the Output tab on the bottom half, you can copy the entire citation. And if you use the excellent M8 Free Clip which I have recommended here before, you can save a lot of time by saving several Citations and pasting them in as required. With the free version, if you use both the temporary and permanent storage you can save up to 50 pieces of text and paste any of them in any order. As mentioned in an earlier thread, tagging is very useful in this sort of situation - tag the records which need amending and untag as you go along. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama
On 10/16/2011 12:29 AM, Deborah Trounstine wrote: Abhorrent propaganda. Shame on you. And shame on you for re-posting the entire thing without trimming! -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Picture center
I'm struggling with the picture center. Let me try to explain. I have Census jpg files where the don't belong. Loads of them. I don't know how they got there, but they are always in 2s. They are attached to a census event, but not the right one. The correct picture is attached to the source, but not the event. So I went into the picture center and moved from person to person removing the link to in incorrect census jpg file. They appeared to disappear but when I went back to the individual they were still there. All of them. So I removed them by hand, which worked. Then I tried to go back into the Picture Center and it crashes. Every time. I've already tried check/repair and rebooting my computer. I am using Windows 7 and Legacy 7.5.0.112. Is this a bug? Kirstin Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture center
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:05:49 -0400, Kirstin catlady1...@yahoo.com wrote: Then I tried to go back into the Picture Center and it crashes. Every time. I've already tried check/repair and rebooting my computer. I am using Windows 7 and Legacy 7.5.0.112. Is this a bug? Crashes are certainly a bug. Report it at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/problems.asp, including the exact steps to reproduce. I don't like Picture Center to begin with ... I avoid it like the plague. I manipulate all pictures in each individual's Picture Gallery. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture center
Kirstin, Sorry, but I cannot really help as I do not like, nor use, the Picture Centre. I have the impression, rightly or wrongly, that it is too easy to mess things up with it. Having said that there is no excuse for a crash. I would report this as a bug, but please remember that you will need to give baby steps defining the problem and exactly how you got to the point where it crashed. Someone will need to be able to replicate the problem before sorting it out. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Kirstin Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture center I'm struggling with the picture center. Let me try to explain. I have Census jpg files where the don't belong. Loads of them. I don't know how they got there, but they are always in 2s. They are attached to a census event, but not the right one. The correct picture is attached to the source, but not the event. So I went into the picture center and moved from person to person removing the link to in incorrect census jpg file. They appeared to disappear but when I went back to the individual they were still there. All of them. So I removed them by hand, which worked. Then I tried to go back into the Picture Center and it crashes. Every time. I've already tried check/repair and rebooting my computer. I am using Windows 7 and Legacy 7.5.0.112. Is this a bug? Kirstin Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source Writer question
Using 7.5; under Win7-32. Source Writer screen Assigned Sources for: Text / Comments What is the difference between Master Text and Detail Text? John. -- *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer question
Sources are in two parts Master and Detail. When entering these parts, there is a tab in each instance called Text/Comments. On the Assigned Sources screen, this tells you from which part the info is coming from. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:52 PM, John Gregson jfgreg...@shaw.ca wrote: Using 7.5; under Win7-32. Source Writer screen Assigned Sources for: Text / Comments What is the difference between Master Text and Detail Text? John. -- *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
Thanks Jennifer, Jenny and James. The Output tab is what I was looking for. Wonder why I didn't think of that? The M8 Free Clip was a great tip. I downloaded it and love it. I have not used Access, but I will try converting Sourcewriter to Basic using LTools. Thanks again to all who responded... Chick Lewis On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 16/10/2011 02:06, James Cook wrote: For #2, the best I can come up with is to go to the Assigned Sources screen for each individual. From there, you can select the source in the list on the top half, and then in the Output tab on the bottom half, you can copy the entire citation. And if you use the excellent M8 Free Clip which I have recommended here before, you can save a lot of time by saving several Citations and pasting them in as required. With the free version, if you use both the temporary and permanent storage you can save up to 50 pieces of text and paste any of them in any order. As mentioned in an earlier thread, tagging is very useful in this sort of situation - tag the records which need amending and untag as you go along. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture center
On 16/10/2011 19:05, Kirstin wrote: I'm struggling with the picture center. You're not the only one! I hardly ever go in there at all because I find it so difficult. Sorry, that's not a lot of help to you, but perhaps a few others will feel they are not along if they are struggling too. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer question
On 16/10/2011 19:52, John Gregson wrote: Using 7.5; under Win7-32. Source Writer screen Assigned Sources for: Text / Comments What is the difference between Master Text and Detail Text? Both Master Sources and Source Details have fields for Text and for Comments. This is how I use them, when I do: In Master Source Text I will enter an official description of the Source, if I think it necessary/helpful, usually taking such information from the webpage the Master Source relates to. One example is The object of the [project] is to provide an on-line index of the 194,815 burials that took place in this cemetary from 1840 to 1978. There have also been a small number of burials since that time in family sites. In Master Source Comments I will add information such as This person is my 2nd cousin and their tree is unsourced. FIn Detail Source Text I will enter the actual text of the particular Source, which would be a copy of the information from a FamilySearch page, or a transcript of a Birth Certificate, for example.Source Detail Comments are a comment on the specific record/document I am citing, such as writing Patron submission where appropriate for a record from the IGI. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
James, I notice that several months ago you were contemplating dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Did you? If not, what changed your mind? It's true that it exports something, and that something will be imported just fine. The problem with it, and the reason for my caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer to GEDCOM is horrible. The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Thanks for your input... Chick On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: For #2, the best I can come up with is to go to the Assigned Sources screen for each individual. From there, you can select the source in the list on the top half, and then in the Output tab on the bottom half, you can copy the entire citation. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Source-physical location
For Vital stats'- Birth, Marriage, Deaths. Would you enter the location (mail address, phone number, etc.) of the Agency that held the record at the time of the event, which may be many years in the past, or would you use the current address, etc. Also over the years, the names of these agencies can change. It seems to me that one reason for citing your sources is so that other researchers can verify your information. John. *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source-physical location
John, As the objective, as you say, is to allow others to find the document, I consider today's details to be appropriate for this purpose. This is for *Source Repositories not Events* Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: John Gregson Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source-physical location For Vital stats'- Birth, Marriage, Deaths. Would you enter the location (mail address, phone number, etc.) of the Agency that held the record at the time of the event, which may be many years in the past, or would you use the current address, etc. Also over the years, the names of these agencies can change. It seems to me that one reason for citing your sources is so that other researchers can verify your information. John. *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
I have not stopped using Source Writer. I'm a computer guy, not a word smith, so I do like being prompted for the correct information and having that information formatted correctly for me - at least within Legacy and in reports produced by Legacy. The export to a 3rd party is still an issue that I find troublesome. What I have settled on for now is to massage the GEDCOM files produced by legacy to make the data transfer more presentable. Being a computer guy, I automated this with with some macros (technically Clips for NoteTab as described on my blog). The system I ended up with is to use use the Source List Name (the user defined name you give a Master Source and which is displayed as its name in the source list) as my citation to a 3rd party. I delete all the rest. As such, I have to be more careful in picking my Master Source names. Privately held stuff requires the most care, as it often contains personal info. I want to maintain, but not necessarily share publicly. This suits my needs so far. This provides a clear source, though basic, source reference should anyone wish to find on their own. I should say I am not sharing for research collaboration with other people, but rather posting online such as Ancestry.com. Perhaps a brief example will help clarify: Master Source Name: Artifacts (Privately Held[[ by James T. Cook]]) - Funeral Card Shows up at Ancestry as: Artifacts (Privately Held) - Funeral Card FamilySearch - Union Provost Marshals' File of Papers Relating to Two or More Civilians, 1861-1866 Internet - Oklahoma Historical Society Ancestry.com - Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 US Census - Oklahoma, Cleveland County - 1910 etc. This does mean my system requires splitting (vs. lumping) in order to get enough detail in my Master Source Names to be meaningful. They are good enough that others can contact me if they are interested in learning more. Like I said, suits me so far. More that you asked for, I'm sure :) JC On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: James, I notice that several months ago you were contemplating dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Did you? If not, what changed your mind? It's true that it exports something, and that something will be imported just fine. The problem with it, and the reason for my caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer to GEDCOM is horrible. The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Thanks for your input... Chick On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: For #2, the best I can come up with is to go to the Assigned Sources screen for each individual. From there, you can select the source in the list on the top half, and then in the Output tab on the bottom half, you can copy the entire citation. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Number of pictures attached to an fdb file?
I've got several very similar Legacy files ... I'd like to find out how many pictures are attached to each one. Is there any way to get this number? I looked through the help files and archives and couldn't come up with an answer. Have I overlooked the obvious? Regards Bob Bashford Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
Thanks, James. Yes, more than I asked for but very informative and I appreciate your taking the time to write it. Now I have to think again about whether to convert my sources to all basic or sourcewriter or just keep a mixture. I definitely will split many of my lumped sources. I don't do much exporting to 3rd parties, so that is not a problem. I had to do a lot of clean-up when I changed from FTM to Legacy and my main concern now is if I ever decide to change genealogy programs again, what problems will I have in transferring data. I realize that Gedcom is outdated or maybe even obsolete, and that some programs read competitor programs pretty well. It may even be more feasible to transfer data that way rather than Gedcom. Thanks again for your input... Chick On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:38 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I have not stopped using Source Writer. I'm a computer guy, not a word smith, so I do like being prompted for the correct information and having that information formatted correctly for me - at least within Legacy and in reports produced by Legacy. The export to a 3rd party is still an issue that I find troublesome. What I have settled on for now is to massage the GEDCOM files produced by legacy to make the data transfer more presentable. Being a computer guy, I automated this with with some macros (technically Clips for NoteTab as described on my blog). The system I ended up with is to use use the Source List Name (the user defined name you give a Master Source and which is displayed as its name in the source list) as my citation to a 3rd party. I delete all the rest. As such, I have to be more careful in picking my Master Source names. Privately held stuff requires the most care, as it often contains personal info. I want to maintain, but not necessarily share publicly. This suits my needs so far. This provides a clear source, though basic, source reference should anyone wish to find on their own. I should say I am not sharing for research collaboration with other people, but rather posting online such as Ancestry.com. Perhaps a brief example will help clarify: Master Source Name: Artifacts (Privately Held[[ by James T. Cook]]) - Funeral Card Shows up at Ancestry as: Artifacts (Privately Held) - Funeral Card FamilySearch - Union Provost Marshals' File of Papers Relating to Two or More Civilians, 1861-1866 Internet - Oklahoma Historical Society Ancestry.com - Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 US Census - Oklahoma, Cleveland County - 1910 etc. This does mean my system requires splitting (vs. lumping) in order to get enough detail in my Master Source Names to be meaningful. They are good enough that others can contact me if they are interested in learning more. Like I said, suits me so far. More that you asked for, I'm sure :) JC On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: James, I notice that several months ago you were contemplating dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Did you? If not, what changed your mind? It's true that it exports something, and that something will be imported just fine. The problem with it, and the reason for my caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer to GEDCOM is horrible. The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Thanks for your input... Chick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
I a hoping that if/when the day comes to move to another software that it will read native Legacy files. Also, a message was posted recently about Legacy sharing it's templates with a group working on making the transfer between systems manageable. Hopefully that will be in place by he time we need it. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, James. Yes, more than I asked for but very informative and I appreciate your taking the time to write it. Now I have to think again about whether to convert my sources to all basic or sourcewriter or just keep a mixture. I definitely will split many of my lumped sources. I don't do much exporting to 3rd parties, so that is not a problem. I had to do a lot of clean-up when I changed from FTM to Legacy and my main concern now is if I ever decide to change genealogy programs again, what problems will I have in transferring data. I realize that Gedcom is outdated or maybe even obsolete, and that some programs read competitor programs pretty well. It may even be more feasible to transfer data that way rather than Gedcom. Thanks again for your input... Chick On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:38 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I have not stopped using Source Writer. I'm a computer guy, not a word smith, so I do like being prompted for the correct information and having that information formatted correctly for me - at least within Legacy and in reports produced by Legacy. The export to a 3rd party is still an issue that I find troublesome. What I have settled on for now is to massage the GEDCOM files produced by legacy to make the data transfer more presentable. Being a computer guy, I automated this with with some macros (technically Clips for NoteTab as described on my blog). The system I ended up with is to use use the Source List Name (the user defined name you give a Master Source and which is displayed as its name in the source list) as my citation to a 3rd party. I delete all the rest. As such, I have to be more careful in picking my Master Source names. Privately held stuff requires the most care, as it often contains personal info. I want to maintain, but not necessarily share publicly. This suits my needs so far. This provides a clear source, though basic, source reference should anyone wish to find on their own. I should say I am not sharing for research collaboration with other people, but rather posting online such as Ancestry.com. Perhaps a brief example will help clarify: Master Source Name: Artifacts (Privately Held[[ by James T. Cook]]) - Funeral Card Shows up at Ancestry as: Artifacts (Privately Held) - Funeral Card FamilySearch - Union Provost Marshals' File of Papers Relating to Two or More Civilians, 1861-1866 Internet - Oklahoma Historical Society Ancestry.com - Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 US Census - Oklahoma, Cleveland County - 1910 etc. This does mean my system requires splitting (vs. lumping) in order to get enough detail in my Master Source Names to be meaningful. They are good enough that others can contact me if they are interested in learning more. Like I said, suits me so far. More that you asked for, I'm sure :) JC On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: James, I notice that several months ago you were contemplating dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Did you? If not, what changed your mind? It's true that it exports something, and that something will be imported just fine. The problem with it, and the reason for my caution, is that (perhaps arguably) the conversion from Source Writer to GEDCOM is horrible. The more I share with 3rd parties, the more I consider dropping Source Writer and going with the Basic system. Thanks for your input... Chick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- James Cook GED Utils, Ancestry Utils http://loosestacks.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter to Basic
Amen to that !!! On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I a hoping that if/when the day comes to move to another software that it will read native Legacy files. Also, a message was posted recently about Legacy sharing it's templates with a group working on making the transfer between systems manageable. Hopefully that will be in place by he time we need it. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Picture center
I like the Picture Center, but only for pictures... that is, if I have a picture of several Irish cousins, the Picture Center makes it quick easy to attach the picture to each individual. Though I've never experienced a crash, I have found it extremely tedious to deal with image files that are attached to source citations from within the Picture Center and will most likely never try to do that again. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sun, October 16, 2011 5:09:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Picture center On 16/10/2011 19:05, Kirstin wrote: I'm struggling with the picture center. You're not the only one! I hardly ever go in there at all because I find it so difficult. Sorry, that's not a lot of help to you, but perhaps a few others will feel they are not along if they are struggling too. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source-physical location
John, I'm sure others here will gasp, but I haven't used the repository in forever. It's probably because my main sources are US censuses and various state birth/marriage/death agencies. As you stated, the names and locations of these state (county, too) agencies do change over time, so I just use the current one... what it was named when I obtained the information. It may have a different name and be accessed using a different technology in the future, but there will still be an Illinois Vital Records agency... a US Census Bureau. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams - Original Message From: John Gregson jfgreg...@shaw.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sun, October 16, 2011 5:46:25 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Source-physical location For Vital stats'- Birth, Marriage, Deaths. Would you enter the location (mail address, phone number, etc.) of the Agency that held the record at the time of the event, which may be many years in the past, or would you use the current address, etc. Also over the years, the names of these agencies can change. It seems to me that one reason for citing your sources is so that other researchers can verify your information. John. *John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How do I cite this source?
Ron, I have been mulling over your answer. I agreed with the idea of Joan using online database because the online database she was using contained a congomeration of data from many sources. However, if I'm reading your answer correctly (which I may not be!), you're saying because she found the data in an online database, she should use that template, right? I get my census images from an online database (or at least online repository), but I don't use the online database template for sure. Likewise, state data. Just because it's available online doesn't mean you should use the online database template, right? Or are you really just trying to clarify what to select for the format on any source template? I'm trying not to worry too much, but I don't want to record my sources in such a way as to be misleading to those who would come after me; don't want to cause them to not be able to find it themselves. Thanks! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, October 12, 2011 4:34:23 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I cite this source? Joan, It would seem that you have a misapprehension regarding sourcing data. The format in which the original data was recorded is immaterial, the templates only require that you specify the format *from which you received the data*. In the case of the Weald website it is an on-line database (I haven't looked so I don't know if it contains images). Thus the template is one of the online databases. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama
I was surprised to see something so off topic here, but I had not heard about this yet. Thank you for sharing, but in an international and specific venue, not everyone will appreciate it. God bless, Ellen - Original Message - From: Deborah Trounstine dtrounst...@comcast.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:29:49 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama Abhorrent propaganda. Shame on you. On 10/15/2011 2:14 PM, Fred Schwilk wrote: *Subject:* IBM turned down by Obama - *Hope the whole United States population finds out about this. IBM offered to help reduce Medicare fraud for free... The offer is true.Mort Zuckermann, US News and World Report, a Democrat, was interviewed on Fox and confirmed it. IBM has confirmed it. You won't believe it.* *IBM offered to help reduce Medicare fraud for free...* *What if I told you that the And, what if I told you that, in the end and after two meetings, President Obama and his team, instead of embracing a program that was proven to save money and one that was projected to save almost one trillion dollars - a private sector program costing the taxpayers nothing, zip, nada, zilch - said, Thanks but no thanks and then embarked on passing one of the most despised pieces of legislation in US history?* *Well, it's all true.* *Mr. Palmisano is quoted as saying during a taping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR_bLBHcJo of The Wall Street Journal's Viewpoints program on September 14, 2010: **We could have improved the quality and reduced the cost of the healthcare system by $900 billion... I said we would do it for free to prove that it works. They turned us down.* ** *Be sure to click on the link above for Mr. Palmisano's statement.* Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
