Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
On 05/03/2014 10:07, Genealogy wrote: Can someone please explain why there are two levels of customisation? The help says: *User-Defaults Settings* You can change any of the option settings to however you want Legacy to work and look. Some of the options you set apply only to the current family file you are viewing and have *(ff)* at the end of the option title. Others are global options that apply to all family files and the user interface of Legacy and have *(gbl)* at the end of the option title. Why do users need two levels, previous Legacy versions only had one and that was great and worked with all files new or old, now every time a new, or previously unopened existing file is opened in Legacy8 that file has to be customised to suit the users preferences. This may be in the form of changing each setting to suit or using the Options for Default Setting IF the user has previously saved their ALL current settings as user defaults. I would have thought it was obvious. It gives the user the option to have different settings for different family files if that's what suits them. Those that want everything the same can select the same options for all files. I may be quite wrong, but I wouldn't have thought there were that many users who keep very many files current. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Best way to rename pdf files used within Legacy?
On 3/5/2014 2:13 AM, MikeFry wrote: On 05 Mar 2014 01:42, Gene Young wrote: Microsoft Document Imaging Format (MDI) I've never heard of that one. To me, MDI = Multiple Document Interface. Where a program allows multiple child windows within the main window. For example, a proper editor (not Notepad) can have multiple files open within the one instance of the program. With Notepad, you get multiple instances i.e main windows. It is admittedly and obscure format, however he did ask. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
We have many professional genealogists who are keeping files for their research using Legacy? They need one file for each client. With the available localization options at the file level they can keep each client's data separate. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 05 Mar 2014 5:25 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 05/03/2014 10:07, Genealogy wrote: Can someone please explain why there are two levels of customisation? snip I would have thought it was obvious. It gives the user the option to have different settings for different family files if that's what suits them. Those that want everything the same can select the same options for all files. I may be quite wrong, but I wouldn't have thought there were that many users who keep very many files current. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
Brian, I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff) settings do make sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy assumes that Reset to Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the first time in Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has been opened, the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point forward. A simple question Would you like to apply User-Default customization settings to this database? might be asked when a database is opened the first time in version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is started. That way, the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional in every database that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the (gbl) settings will be used in every database for the user. The second part of this solution would require a time-flag to be set for each database that indicates the last date/time the User-Default settings were saved for each database. A blank time would indicate that the user has not saved User-Default settings for the particular database and therefore it has the Legacy-Default settings or other customizations but not saved. Then if a database is opened that has that saved time earlier than the last time the user saved settings on any database, the question would be asked again. Otherwise, the user would have to remember to fix the (ff) settings in each database after a change to the a setting in any one of his/her files. Put some thought to it and respond if you think it may have some merit. This is not a major concern but would be nice to have fixed. The single database user will not see any benefit except in the conversion process when the file is opened the first time on a specific computer. Ron Taylor On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 6:36 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: We have many professional genealogists who are keeping files for their research using Legacy? They need one file for each client. With the available localization options at the file level they can keep each client's data separate. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 05 Mar 2014 5:25 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 05/03/2014 10:07, Genealogy wrote: Can someone please explain why there are two levels of customisation? snip I would have thought it was obvious. It gives the user the option to have different settings for different family files if that's what suits them. Those that want everything the same can select the same options for all files. I may be quite wrong, but I wouldn't have thought there were that many users who keep very many files current. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
On 05 Mar 2014 16:18, Ron Taylor wrote: I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff) settings do make sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy assumes that Reset to Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the first time in Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has been opened, the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point forward. A simple question Would you like to apply User-Default customization settings to this database? might be asked when a database is opened the first time in version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is started. That way, the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional in every database that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the (gbl) settings will be used in every database for the user. The problem here is that the first time a NEW file opened, there are no user-defined FF settings for the file. You'd need to be able to save the FF settings from a file as a named set that can then be applied to a new file - NOT AN EXISTING FILE! This way, you could have multiple FF sets to select from when a new file is created. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns?
I copy from Ancestry and FamilySearch then paste into Windows Notepad which eliminates any extra code. I also save the Notepad file. I've never had a font problem. The only thing I might have to do is get rid of returns at the end of some lines or have Legacy reformat it for me. I always wondered how other people do their census extracts. I always use the image file and transcribe my own because Ancestry transcriptions are so full of errors. I create a line for each family member listed in the census with pertinent information as listed in the census. I never use the FS citations because it doesn't have the person's name come first and it's hard to see the important details in the Legacy detail column at the far right. I put the citation information in the detail text instead and as little as possible in the citation. Here's an example of my census extraction. If anyone needs more information, they can go to the image which is attached to it. Tolson, Edward L, Head, Male, White, 43, Married, Age Married: 22, Can Read/Write, Born: District of Columbia; Father: Maryland; Mother: Maryland; Draftsman Tolson, Ada M, Wife, Female, White, 41, Married, Age Married: 19, Can Read/Write, Born: District of Columbia; Father: District of Columbia; Mother: Virginia [1930 DC T626_303 Pg 9-B, ED 0356, Washington, District of Columbia, Image 94.0, FHL microfilm 2340038; April 7, 1930; 2918 Tenth Street NE] I used to copy the Ancestry transcriptions, but it seemed an awful waste of space and clutter. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns? Jay, I think I do the same thing you do with the census summaries, but I get them mostly from FamilySearch. You're right that if you copy and paste from Ancestry, you are obliged to close the Notes window, and open it again, so that the Legacy default font formatting comes into use. In FamilySearch census summary windows, there is a Copy button, which if you use, and then paste into the Notes window in Legacy, you get close to what you probably want, and the font size comes out okay, I suppose because I've set my minimum screen font size to 10, and also to10 in the Legacy Notes window. I had some trouble with my Notes formatting being lost until I figured out that the Notes Zoom button was allowing me to set a Text Font Size. It appears to always remember it, and I don't lose the formatting now. Even if I change the Notepad window size, it does not affect the formatting -- it will re-word-wrap the lines if necessary. I don't suppose that this wouldn't change if used in other ways, such as in this email message. If you copy your Notes into WordPad (which I do from time to time, while I am making use of the information), with it set to Arial and font size 10, the formatting will be the same as it is in your Legacy notes. Here is an example copied from one of my Legacy Notes windows (I add little notes of my own): *1870 Census -- Turner, Androscoggin, Maine, United States* Household GenderAge Birthplace Lark D Merrill M47 Maine A Melvina Merrill F 42 Maine = Amanda Melvina Lothrop Willard LothropM40 Maine = Amanda's brother, an invalid NOTE: Next door is family of George T. Merril Lorette Georgianna A., and next to them is the family of Alvah and Hannah C. Merrill with child Nathan -- also including what looks like maybe the Merrill father, Luther Merrill, age 82. Citing this Record: United States Census, 1870, index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6DZ-RQT : accessed 25 Feb 2014), Lark D Merrill, Maine, United States; citing p. , family 259, NARA microfilm publication M593, FHL microfilm 000552036. I don't know how this will look in your email program, but it looks fairly good before sending it. :-) Joseph Leavitt Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] .414 Update
Looks like the glitch for .412 has been fixed. .414 was posted in the right hand box through the Legacy Home tab. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns?
Hi Bill, Jumping in here... I have never been sorry for having too much information… Like you, I am interested in how others do their census extracts, and we each find our own method. There is no ’right’ way – it’s what works for you. This is my transcription for Edward L Tolson: 1930 United States Federal Census - District of Columbia - Washington - Washington - District 356 – pg 15 of 71 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Washington, Washington, District of Columbia; Roll: 303; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 0356; Image: 94.0; FHL microfilm: 2340038. Name: Edward L Tolson Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: District of Columbia Race: White Home in 1930:Washington, Washington, District of Columbia Map of Home:View Map Marital Status:Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ada M Tolson Father's Birthplace: Maryland Mother's Birthplace: Maryland Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Edward L Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1887 District of Columbia Head Draftsman, Patton Company Ada M TolsonWashington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1889 District of Columbia Wife Edward L Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1911 District of Columbia Son Dorothy E Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1914 District of Columbia Daughter Leo B MiddletonWashington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1879 District of Columbia LodgerPatent Attorney Name Age Edward L Tolson 43 Ada M Tolson41 Edward L Tolson 19 Dorothy E Tolson 16 Leo B Middleton51 I save the image using the first line as the name, create a census Event, attach the image to the Event, and copy the transcription in the Event Notes. My ‘clutter’ comes from copying the transcription to the Research Notes as well (as I do for each census obtained). Then I can easily look at the information should a question as to the validity of my research. Bob A -Original Message- From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:44 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns? I copy from Ancestry and FamilySearch then paste into Windows Notepad which eliminates any extra code. I also save the Notepad file. I've never had a font problem. The only thing I might have to do is get rid of returns at the end of some lines or have Legacy reformat it for me. I always wondered how other people do their census extracts. I always use the image file and transcribe my own because Ancestry transcriptions are so full of errors. I create a line for each family member listed in the census with pertinent information as listed in the census. I never use the FS citations because it doesn't have the person's name come first and it's hard to see the important details in the Legacy detail column at the far right. I put the citation information in the detail text instead and as little as possible in the citation. Here's an example of my census extraction. If anyone needs more information, they can go to the image which is attached to it. Tolson, Edward L, Head, Male, White, 43, Married, Age Married: 22, Can Read/Write, Born: District of Columbia; Father: Maryland; Mother: Maryland; Draftsman Tolson, Ada M, Wife, Female, White, 41, Married, Age Married: 19, Can Read/Write, Born: District of Columbia; Father: District of Columbia; Mother: Virginia [1930 DC T626_303 Pg 9-B, ED 0356, Washington, District of Columbia, Image 94.0, FHL microfilm 2340038; April 7, 1930; 2918 Tenth Street NE] I used to copy the Ancestry transcriptions, but it seemed an awful waste of space and clutter. Bill Boswell Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns?
I just worry about doing reports and having too many pages compared to condensing the information. I'm always looking for improvements because I'm not 100% satisfied with my way of doing it. I wish there was a nice template for entering all the information and let the program format it the way it should be. I know there's SourceWriter, but many of the fields are useless and when trying to find a citation the items I want to see are not first in that Detail column in Legacy under Sources. I thought about going back to just copying and pasting for each family member and only list their information. The problem I had with that years ago was when I wanted to see who was the child of somebody, I had to refer back to the image. For the past three months I have been downloading a lot of census records and transcribing every day. I can't imagine doing it the way you have it below even though I really like your way of doing it. It's a lot cleaner than my way and does have more information. If I just copy what Ancestry has, I'd have to compare what they have against the image because they have sloppy transcribers. For the Source Citation (Year: 1930; Census Place: Washington...), I use from the year to the page number as a file name along with the Head of Household's name for the images which is why I have it formatted that way. It is much easier to find images and see if I have any duplicates. I've noticed that when copying that citation information, Ancestry is not always consistent with what's on that line. The ED might be at the beginning or the end. The ED and sheet/page numbers are more important than the other information at least when I'm searching for other relatives that might live nearby. From: Bob Austen [mailto:rgaus...@telus.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:30 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns? Hi Bill, Jumping in here... I have never been sorry for having too much information… Like you, I am interested in how others do their census extracts, and we each find our own method. There is no ’right’ way – it’s what works for you. This is my transcription for Edward L Tolson: 1930 United States Federal Census - District of Columbia - Washington - Washington - District 356 – pg 15 of 71 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Washington, Washington, District of Columbia; Roll: 303; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 0356; Image: 94.0; FHL microfilm: 2340038. Name: Edward L Tolson Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: District of Columbia Race: White Home in 1930:Washington, Washington, District of Columbia Map of Home:View Map Marital Status:Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ada M Tolson Father's Birthplace: Maryland Mother's Birthplace: Maryland Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Edward L Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1887 District of Columbia Head Draftsman, Patton Company Ada M TolsonWashington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1889 District of Columbia Wife Edward L Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1911 District of Columbia Son Dorothy E Tolson Washington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1914 District of Columbia Daughter Leo B MiddletonWashington, Washington, District of Columbia abt 1879 District of Columbia LodgerPatent Attorney Name Age Edward L Tolson 43 Ada M Tolson41 Edward L Tolson 19 Dorothy E Tolson 16 Leo B Middleton51 I save the image using the first line as the name, create a census Event, attach the image to the Event, and copy the transcription in the Event Notes. My ‘clutter’ comes from copying the transcription to the Research Notes as well (as I do for each census obtained). Then I can easily look at the information should a question as to the validity of my research. Bob A Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Customisation
MARVELOUS IDEA! Please make a suggestion that they do this ASAP! For the many of us who need to produce reports now and are stuck using Legacy 7.5 because we can get what we want today, it would REALLY encourage us to start the learning curve on Legacy 8. As it is now, we would have to keep both a Legacy 7.5 and a Legacy 8 fdb. Big deterrent! If there were a way to set the user files are apply them to a new database, I would start Legacy 8 in a heartbeat! But why bother when I must still use Legacy 7.5, because any time I converted my latest 7.5 fdb to Legacy 8, I would have to go through the onerous process of settings all my user settings! How many hours are there in YOUR day? CE From: emjay...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:39:03 +0200 On 05 Mar 2014 16:18, Ron Taylor wrote: I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff) settings do make sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy assumes that Reset to Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the first time in Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has been opened, the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point forward. A simple question Would you like to apply User-Default customization settings to this database? might be asked when a database is opened the first time in version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is started. That way, the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional in every database that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the (gbl) settings will be used in every database for the user. The problem here is that the first time a NEW file opened, there are no user-defined FF settings for the file. You'd need to be able to save the FF settings from a file as a named set that can then be applied to a new file - NOT AN EXISTING FILE! This way, you could have multiple FF sets to select from when a new file is created. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy fails to recognize my email address!!
I just attempted to update Legacy and was told my email address was not valid. Here it is:pph...@gmail.com It's the same address I use for this group! And to download Legacy 8. So what's the problem? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy fails to recognize my email address!!
It sounds like you entered your email incorrectly and therefore the system indicated it was not a valid email address - i.e. You may have entered pphgen.gmail.com (or similar) - this would be an invalid address. Ron Bernier Sent from my iPad On Mar 5, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote: I just attempted to update Legacy and was told my email address was not valid. Here it is:pph...@gmail.com It's the same address I use for this group! And to download Legacy 8. So what's the problem? Pat Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns?
Like Bill mentioned I am always looking to improve or condense my additional data like pasted info from a census or obit. I recently used the help of LTools and some sql code to remove over 78,000 BLANK lines from my Obituary events.. Tho' none of us are actually PRINTING much these days, I may have actually saved a tree or two... And my report look much nicer without all the blank lines Jay On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Bob Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote: Hi Bill, I keep my research notes under 'Research Notes' and in (all?) the reports options you can elect not to include these notes. Or put [[brackets]] around the material you don't want to include. Ancestry does change the 'header' line. Sometimes the page numbers change as they update/correct information. Still, it is the description in my file. Others might use something like Tolson - 1930 US Census, or the method of your choosing. My image file is getting so big that I many times don't store the image - something I will probably regret later. Another case of not having too much information. My transcription is a copy and paste direct to Legacy of the Ancestry info, along with a little editing - such as deleting common, unused, lines and (sometimes) adding the individual occupation at the end. Most of my research is in England where I find it easier to have a 'common' translation. The US census may have a lot of personal information for each individual so generalization becomes a problem. I may get lazy and just do the head of the household and copy it to the rest of the family. In the Tolson census example, below, I have copied in the family members and placed it under Household Members. This has made it a bit more general. I'm sure, if we could peek over the shoulder of our fellow LUGers, we would see a different method for most out there. I like to hear what others are doing and maybe I can find other ways of doing things. Regards, Bob A *From:* William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:00 AM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns? I just worry about doing reports and having too many pages compared to condensing the information. I'm always looking for improvements because I'm not 100% satisfied with my way of doing it. I wish there was a nice template for entering all the information and let the program format it the way it should be. I know there's SourceWriter, but many of the fields are useless and when trying to find a citation the items I want to see are not first in that Detail column in Legacy under Sources. I thought about going back to just copying and pasting for each family member and only list their information. The problem I had with that years ago was when I wanted to see who was the child of somebody, I had to refer back to the image. For the past three months I have been downloading a lot of census records and transcribing every day. I can't imagine doing it the way you have it below even though I really like your way of doing it. It's a lot cleaner than my way and does have more information. If I just copy what Ancestry has, I'd have to compare what they have against the image because they have sloppy transcribers. For the Source Citation (Year: 1930; Census Place: Washington...), I use from the year to the page number as a file name along with the Head of Household's name for the images which is why I have it formatted that way. It is much easier to find images and see if I have any duplicates. I've noticed that when copying that citation information, Ancestry is not always consistent with what's on that line. The ED might be at the beginning or the end. The ED and sheet/page numbers are more important than the other information at least when I'm searching for other relatives that might live nearby. *From:* Bob Austen [mailto:rgaus...@telus.net rgaus...@telus.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:30 AM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Fixed Fonts, Destroyed Columns? Hi Bill, Jumping in here... I have never been sorry for having too much information... Like you, I am interested in how others do their census extracts, and we each find our own method. There is no 'right' way - it's what works for you. This is my transcription for Edward L Tolson: *1930 *United States Federal Census - District of Columbia - Washington - Washington - District 356 - pg 15 of 71 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Washington, Washington, District of Columbia; Roll: 303; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 0356; Image: 94.0; FHL microfilm: 2340038. Name: *Edward L Tolson* Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: District of Columbia Race: White Home in 1930:Washington, Washington, District of Columbia
[LegacyUG] Marriage event
Is there way in which I can change an event that is associated with a marriage to an event associated to the individual without have to re-enter/ retype all the details in vers 8 ? Jo Poi Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage event
On 05/03/2014 20:50, Jo Poi wrote: Is there way in which I can change an event that is associated with a marriage to an event associated to the individual without have to re-enter/ retype all the details in vers 8 ? Copy and Paste using the Source Clipboard. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
Hi Jay, Your method is just great. It gives all the essential information to make an informed decision regarding this family. I will also list the neighbors (Surnames at least) if I recognize any that might be of interest. Sometimes my first best guess was incorrect and this allows for an easy scan to see the proof of the line. In your example I would be keen to know (show) the relationship of the Gott children living with the Ingalls (stepchildren, grandchildren, ?). Louise married George Ingalls at the age of 20; married for 10 years; the children have all been born since their marriage; Louise was not likely married before; these are not likely her children; etc. Of course I don't expect you to elaborate or answer this, as I'm sure you have it covered. I have been doing research for many years and do it my way for my own enjoyment. I have not published it, and I'm not trying to impress anyone with it. Yet I hope someone, sometime will be interested to have a look and carry it on. I do work very closely on the tree with a cousin and exchange complete information and files yet our ways are different as well. I do get family inquiries and am known as the Keeper of the Tree. Great hobby - keep digging. Bob A -Original Message- From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 1:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events Below is an example of my copied, pasted, and edited census info from Ancestry.com. I usually check the actual census image and edit the Ancestry.com version to show either both the original Ancestry version and my corrections, often within [] brackets. Part of the time I list the occupation and birth place and relationship for each person in the family in table format. I also try to add alternate names and info to the Ancestry page. When I think it may help me in the future, I also add the list of all the neighbors, using the index and Copy all options on the Ancestry copy of the census page image. I like having the first line as shown, it is visible when viewing the list of events, and lets me see the age and state where born in each census easily. I use the option to copy the event to the clipboard, and paste it into the Legacy record for each person in that census record, changing the data as required for the individual. Then each persons record stands alone. I do not save the census image, hoping it will always be available somewhere if anyone needs it. Jay Ingalls . George F Ingalls, Age 51, Born Jun 1848 in Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace: Maine Mother's Birthplace: Maine Occupation: Farmer, Owns Farm Household Members: Name Age George F Ingalls 51 Louise A Ingalls 30 Harry H Gott 9 Mabel L Gott 7 Ester E Gott 6 Mildred S Gott1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Boarder Sarah S Mccaslin 77 Boarder Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 67; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage event
On 05 Mar 2014 22:50, Jo Poi wrote: Is there way in which I can change an event that is associated with a marriage to an event associated to the individual without have to re-enter/ retype all the details in vers 8 ? Assuming that the event makes sense when copied - you can't cut the event from the marriage and paste it to an individual. You can copy it but you'll have to delete it from the marriage. Select the event and edit it. Then using the left of the two buttons on the right, copy it to the clipboard. Now, go to the individual, and add a new event. Then, using the second of the two buttons, paste the clipboard into the event. Voila! You may have to watch out if the original event had a source attached to it, because the source will also get copied. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy Update Notice and Legacy Home tab.
Sherry, I never can think of the proper terminology for Buttons and Tabs, etc. I was referring to what you call the Legacy Home tab. Have almost no use for what you call the Preferred Startup Family. I almost never see Legacy Home tab where it is now. Most programs appear to have a link to their web site in their Help menu. Any additional location would help. Or the pop-up notice that an update is available when starting the program that then fades away as previously mentioned would be a great addition. Note that I have not received a message from Legacy that a new version is available. Jay On 3/4/2014 3:57 PM, Sherry/Support wrote: There is no Legacy Home button. There's a Legacy Home tab but no button. In earlier versions, there was a Home button on the far left of the toolbar which took you to the Preferred Startup Family. A lot of people were confused with the Legacy Home tab and the Home button when we'd give instructions so Ken changed that button to the Startup Family on the My Toolbar in v8. It wouldn't go on the File ribbon since it has nothing to do with Files but has to do with going to the Preferred Startup Family set in Options Customize 1.3 (You can also set the Startup Family by clicking on the icon on the Options ribbon) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, J.M. Jay Ingalls jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote: It would seem more rational to me to have the Legacy Home button on the same line as File, Edit, Add, etc. I tend to not see it where it is. Could it be in both places? And maybe also in the Help menu? Jay Ingalls Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
As I said, the current version 8.0.0.412 can Save ALL current settings as User-Defaults and then in the other databases Reset to User-Defaults. What I was proposing is a method that could automatically apply the Reset to User-Defaults when a new database is opened. But also a way to assure that all databases get the latest User-Defaults should they be adjusted from time to time...only if the user wishes that to happen. If the user wants each database to have different (ff) settings, that is also possible with the method that I outlined. Ron Taylor On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:00 AM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: MARVELOUS IDEA! Please make a suggestion that they do this ASAP! For the many of us who need to produce reports now and are stuck using Legacy 7.5 because we can get what we want today, it would REALLY encourage us to start the learning curve on Legacy 8. As it is now, we would have to keep both a Legacy 7.5 and a Legacy 8 fdb. Big deterrent! If there were a way to set the user files are apply them to a new database, I would start Legacy 8 in a heartbeat! But why bother when I must still use Legacy 7.5, because any time I converted my latest 7.5 fdb to Legacy 8, I would have to go through the onerous process of settings all my user settings! How many hours are there in YOUR day? CE From: emjay...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:39:03 +0200 On 05 Mar 2014 16:18, Ron Taylor wrote: I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff) settings do make sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy assumes that Reset to Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the first time in Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has been opened, the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point forward. A simple question Would you like to apply User-Default customization settings to this database? might be asked when a database is opened the first time in version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is started. That way, the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional in every database that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the (gbl) settings will be used in every database for the user. The problem here is that the first time a NEW file opened, there are no user-defined FF settings for the file. You'd need to be able to save the FF settings from a file as a named set that can then be applied to a new file - NOT AN EXISTING FILE! This way, you could have multiple FF sets to select from when a new file is created. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] .414 Update
Which glitch were you referencing? I have 414 and would like to verify the fix you observed. Ron Taylor On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:24 AM, Sentz ro...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Looks like the glitch for .412 has been fixed. .414 was posted in the right hand box through the Legacy Home tab. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
I really like the condensed formatting. Do you create the top part for each household member or just the head of household? I always save the census image in case it isn't available or if I have to subscribe to get it again. I'm a short-term subscriber to Ancestry because they don't have a lot of records for the areas I'm researching. FamilySearch also doesn't have too many images anymore and we have to get them from Ancestry or elsewhere. I prefer copying and pasting rather than typing so either your template or Bob's will give me ideas. I would just hate to redo all of them because I have thousands of census sources. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events Below is an example of my copied, pasted, and edited census info from Ancestry.com. I usually check the actual census image and edit the Ancestry.com version to show either both the original Ancestry version and my corrections, often within [] brackets. Part of the time I list the occupation and birth place and relationship for each person in the family in table format. I also try to add alternate names and info to the Ancestry page. When I think it may help me in the future, I also add the list of all the neighbors, using the index and Copy all options on the Ancestry copy of the census page image. I like having the first line as shown, it is visible when viewing the list of events, and lets me see the age and state where born in each census easily. I use the option to copy the event to the clipboard, and paste it into the Legacy record for each person in that census record, changing the data as required for the individual. Then each persons record stands alone. I do not save the census image, hoping it will always be available somewhere if anyone needs it. Jay Ingalls . George F Ingalls, Age 51, Born Jun 1848 in Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace: Maine Mother's Birthplace: Maine Occupation: Farmer, Owns Farm Household Members: Name Age George F Ingalls 51 Louise A Ingalls 30 Harry H Gott 9 Mabel L Gott 7 Ester E Gott 6 Mildred S Gott1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Boarder Sarah S Mccaslin 77 Boarder Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 67; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Children not showing up in Family group report index
Now running 8.0.0.414. The Name Index for a Group Sheet of Asa Clark Brown and Elizabeth Reynolds still has duplicates for Susannah [36] and Hannah M [10]. The duplicates are actually the RINs for their spouses 43 and 23. The other un-married Brown children are not in the index RINs 20 and 21. Ron Taylor On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:35 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Just the family of Asa Clark Brown shows two problems with the Name Index instead of all of his descendants with a Focus Group. The report produces 6 pages. Check the name index under surname Brown...only Asa Clark and Nathan are listed. Notice also under Crosby...Clara Etta is listed twice with RINs 91 and 92. (David Clark Brown, her spouse, is RIN 92) Same for Frost...Elmina is listed twice with RINs 69 and 74. (William C. Brown, her spouse, is RIN 74) Same for Goodhue...Jane is listed twice with RINs 72 and 76. (Joshua Marsden Brown, her spouse, is RIN 76) Same for Rand...Laura Etta is listed twice with RINs 71 and 73. (John W. Brown, her spouse, is RIN 73) There may be other errors, but these are quite easy to replicate. Ron Taylor On , Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok...so I used the Sample.fdb file, put Asa Clark Brown in husband box of Family tab, clicked ViewFocus GroupClear List, clicked ViewFocus GroupAdd an Individual and Descendants Then click ReportsFamily GroupIndex Options check Include a Name Index Then click ReportsFamily GroupRecord Selection and set Focus Group Records Then click ReportsFamily GroupPreview (with screen/printer set) The report produces 55 pages. Check the name index for Josephine Brown...not there but she is on page 2 as daughter of Nathan R. Brown There are many others missing from the name index. Ron Taylor On , Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: I did a family group sheet report using focus group criteria for descendants of my own family. My children are in the index but none of my grandchildren. Each of the correct group sheets are correctly in the Preview report. The index options are obviously set right. I may test a little further but it would seem that the last generation is not being sent to the index. Ron Taylor On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 6:44 PM, Tammyj tam...@brightok.net wrote: Legacy 8 deluxe build 8.0.0.412. In the family group report index the children of the family are not showing up. Their spouses are there. Anyone having this happen? TIA Tammy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
Hi Bill, Apologies to those who are not interested in this as it is a little long, but you can pass it by. I may be unnecessarily repeating myself, but I wanted to show just how easy it actually is. Three copy/pastes gives you 99% of the data. To some degree it depends on what country you are searching. English census are really easy to copy and one transcription fits all. The US census, not so easy (read quick). The US census contains a lot of personal information about the highlighted individual. When I'm lazy I will just use the head of the household info and copy it to all the other family members - otherwise I will make one transcription and copy/paste over the next persons data. I will use Jay's example for the US census This is simply a quick copy from Ancestry (using FireFox as my browser) there has been no editing. 1900 United States Federal Census about George F Ingalls Name: George F Ingalls Age:51 Birth Date: Jun 1848 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1900: Surry, Hancock, Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace:Maine Mother's Birthplace:Maine Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: NameAge George F Ingalls51 Louise A Ingalls30 Harry H Gott9 Mabel L Gott7 Ester E Gott6 Mildred S Gott 1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Sarah S Mccaslin77 Then I will go to View others on the page and copy the household members and paste them in between the lines Houshold members and Name Age. One more quick copy - no editing required. I now have this: (and it shows the household members relationships) 1900 United States Federal Census about George F Ingalls Name: George F Ingalls Age:51 Birth Date: Jun 1848 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1900: Surry, Hancock, Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace:Maine Mother's Birthplace:Maine Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: George F IngallsSurry, Hancock, Maine Jun 1848Maine Head Louise A IngallsSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1869Maine Wife Harry H GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Nov 1890Maine Step Son Mabel L GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1892Maine Step Daughter Ester E GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1893Maine Step Daughter Mildred S Gott Surry, Hancock, Maine Jul 1898Maine Step Daughter Alexander Mccaslin Surry, Hancock, Maine Nov 1816Maine Boarder Sarah S MccaslinSurry, Hancock, Maine Apr 1823Maine Boarder NameAge George F Ingalls51 Louise A Ingalls30 Harry H Gott9 Mabel L Gott7 Ester E Gott6 Mildred S Gott 1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Sarah S Mccaslin77 Again there is no editing here, I've done two quick copy and simply pasted in the data. By pasting in the family info I can now see the relationships for all the people. I can/will use this for all the family members. On the screen when you open a census page, just below the record and the Save button, you will find the Source Citation. I generally copy this in as well. ( third copy/paste) Some find this of little use, though it can be handy in Family Search. Jay put his on the bottom. I delete About George Ingalls at the top and insert the Source info on the second line. Now it is somewhat generic and can be use for everyone in the family group. Jay's example below takes more editing, and has less information - but it works for him. Mine is very verbose, thus taking up a lot of room - again, I've never been sorry for having too much information. Jay's version is just great and puts the emphasis on the person/information that he wants foremost. You can do editing if you wish. I might open the census, dig out the occupations, and add that in at the end of each of the Household Members line. You can also copy/replace each individuals info (replacing Name though Occupation) to personalize it for them in their page. I do embolden the census year and the individual for their own record. My final version with all the editing (it took me longer to type in the neighbors then it did to do the rest) You can leave out any part of this. 1900 United States Federal Census Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 0067; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Name: George F Ingalls Age:51 Birth Date: Jun 1848 Birthplace: Maine Home in 1900: Surry, Hancock, Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married
[LegacyUG] Direct line descendant chart
To create a Direct line descendant chart, do this: Chose the given ancestor and Highlight his/her name on the respective family page Click on Tools, then click on Relationship. On the Relation Calculator screen, the ancestor's name will appear on the left side On the right side of the Relationship Calculator screen - Click on Select Right Person The name file will automatically come up. Find the name of descent you wish to enter, highlight the name, and then click on Select (top right of screen) You will see the ancestor's name at the top of the new screen. To find the relationship and the direct line of how they are connected, click on Print and then on preview, to see how the chart will look. Make any changes you desire and then print the linage from the ancestor to the descendant without all the extra names in between. This is another way to use the Relationship Chart instead of juct finding the relationship between two descendants. Jim Peacock West Lafayette, Indiana Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.
I can’t say I’m particularly impressed with the standards of updates we’ve been receiving, particularly the penultimate - 8.0.0.412. To my mind dropping off single keyboard shortcuts as happened in that is pretty basic. And that’s only the faults I noticed. And for those of us who have paid extra, I think we deserve more than a service like that. I assume from the number of previous comments on other updates that users have similar views. Maybe it’s time we voted with our feet if Legacy can’t get its act together. Bryan Sent from Windows Mail Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.
The keyboard shortcuts seem to be back – some at least, I’ve used but a few since upgrading. From: Bryan Pratt [mailto:brya...@slingshot.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:44 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence. I can’t say I’m particularly impressed with the standards of updates we’ve been receiving, particularly the penultimate - 8.0.0.412. To my mind dropping off single keyboard shortcuts as happened in that is pretty basic. And that’s only the faults I noticed. And for those of us who have paid extra, I think we deserve more than a service like that. I assume from the number of previous comments on other updates that users have similar views. Maybe it’s time we voted with our feet if Legacy can’t get its act together. Bryan Sent from Windows Mail Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Programmer confidence.
I feel the programmers are very responsive and are working on improvements and bug fixes daily; they release updates frequently so that users can benefit from the changes immediately and so that bugs can be detected and worked on. We only 'pay extra' for the Deluxe version which provides a significant number of features that most of us find are worth the relatively small cost. Based on posts I've seen in the past, here and on other group lists, Legacy is extremely good at handling user requests. Not everything is as simple to change or add to the program as we might think it is; the Legacy programmers are working on the Family Search/Family Tree issues too; when that program changed, Legacy had to make major changes too. If there are complaints to be made, rather than questions directed to the group for assistance using Legacy features or add-ons, perhaps it would be best to direct those comments to the customer service or support. I would hate to see this particular thread digress into something negative and contrary to the purposes of this group. I actually have learned a lot from the 'problems' encountered - often I had no idea that we had that particular 'capability' and am even more impressed with the many features that are included in the program (even though they may have to be less than perfect at first) Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses that are made daily on this group; I, for one, really appreciate people willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us! Kathy On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Bryan Pratt brya...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: I can't say I'm particularly impressed with the standards of updates we've been receiving, particularly the penultimate - *8.0.0.412*. To my mind dropping off single keyboard shortcuts as happened in that is pretty basic. And that's only the faults I noticed. And for those of us who have paid extra, I think we deserve more than a service like that. I assume from the number of previous comments on other updates that users have similar views. Maybe it's time we voted with our feet if Legacy can't get its act together. Bryan Sent from Windows Mail Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation
Hi Ron, This is already there for a new file (that's not a newly converted file but File New File) provided you have saved user defaults. From the Help: Whenever you start a new family file, Legacy looks to see if you have saved any user-default family file settings. Any that are found are saved in the new family file. If there are no user-defaults, the Legacy-defaults are used. Cathy At 06:48 AM 6/03/2014, you wrote: As I said, the current version 8.0.0.412 can Save ALL current settings as User-Defaults and then in the other databases Reset to User-Defaults. What I was proposing is a method that could automatically apply the Reset to User-Defaults when a new database is opened. But also a way to assure that all databases get the latest User-Defaults should they be adjusted from time to time...only if the user wishes that to happen. If the user wants each database to have different (ff) settings, that is also possible with the method that I outlined. Ron Taylor On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:00 AM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: MARVELOUS IDEA! Please make a suggestion that they do this ASAP! For the many of us who need to produce reports now and are stuck using Legacy 7.5 because we can get what we want today, it would REALLY encourage us to start the learning curve on Legacy 8. As it is now, we would have to keep both a Legacy 7.5 and a Legacy 8 fdb. Big deterrent! If there were a way to set the user files are apply them to a new database, I would start Legacy 8 in a heartbeat! But why bother when I must still use Legacy 7.5, because any time I converted my latest 7.5 fdb to Legacy 8, I would have to go through the onerous process of settings all my user settings! How many hours are there in YOUR day? CE From: emjay...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customisation Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 16:39:03 +0200 On 05 Mar 2014 16:18, Ron Taylor wrote: I had this same concern with Legacy 8 customization. The (ff) settings do make sense for multiple databases. The problem is that Legacy assumes that Reset to Legacy-Defaults should be used when opening a database for the first time in Legacy 8 versus Reset to User-Defaults. Once the database has been opened, the (ff) settings are established and work fine from that point forward. A simple question Would you like to apply User-Default customization settings to this database? might be asked when a database is opened the first time in version 8. I think it also happens when a new database is started. That way, the user who assumes all the (ff) settings will be functional in every database that is opened will have that condition. It is assumed that the (gbl) settings will be used in every database for the user. The problem here is that the first time a NEW file opened, there are no user-defined FF settings for the file. You'd need to be able to save the FF settings from a file as a named set that can then be applied to a new file - NOT AN EXISTING FILE! This way, you could have multiple FF sets to select from when a new file is created. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage event
Thank you both, works just how I wanted it, as always so simple when you know how. Jo Poi On 05 March 2014 at 9:58 PM, MikeFry wrote: On 05 Mar 2014 22:50, Jo Poi wrote: Is there way in which I can change an event that is associated with a marriage to an event associated to the individual without have to re-enter/ retype all the details in vers 8 ? Assuming that the event makes sense when copied - you can't cut the event from the marriage and paste it to an individual. You can copy it but you'll have to delete it from the marriage. Select the event and edit it. Then using the left of the two buttons on the right, copy it to the clipboard. Now, go to the individual, and add a new event. Then, using the second of the two buttons, paste the clipboard into the event. Voila! You may have to watch out if the original event had a source attached to it, because the source will also get copied. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
