Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom import dropping Child Sealings

2015-03-29 Thread Stuart Armstrong
Hello Stuart,

Sunday, March 29, 2015, 4:02:12 PM, you wrote:

... not only are Sealings to Parents not being imported consistently,
but when they are, the source citation for that event is not imported.

Initiatories are not being imported as LDS events. But in this case,
the GEDCOM tag I have programmed is EVEN: Type InitiatoryLDS. Does
anyone know if there is a standard GEDCOM tag for LDS Initiatories?

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-03-29 Thread Barton Lewis
This all works properly now, thank you, Jenny.

Barton

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

On 29/03/2015 02:18, Barton Lewis wrote:
 1.  I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land
 and put all the deeds for that body in that event.  In the source
 detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the book in
 the Text/Comments field.

 When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not
 print out in the footnote.  I looked for an option to do that but did
 not see it.  Is there one?  I'd like researchers to see exactly what
 is in the abstract.

When you entered the Text, did you tick the box just below for Add this Text 
to the Source Citation on Reports?  (Or, Add these Comments to the Source 
Citation on Reports, if appliccable?)

 2.  In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the
 equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy.  (Please let me know
 if there is another.)  The report was continuous and did not break
 down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at
 the end.  Is that possible in Legacy?

When you select Descendant Book Report, the first screen has several tabs and 
the first one is Options.  On the left, about halfway down you can select 
Modified Register or Register.  Does selecting Register give you what you want?

Footnotes which appear at the end are Endnotes!  If you click Report Options on 
that first screen, then select the Sources tab, you can choose whether you want 
to print Footnotes or Endnotes and if you choose Endnotes there is a further 
choice for at the end of each generation
or at the end of the book.

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RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-03-29 Thread Barton Lewis
Michele, you said “Each deed will be in different books on different page 
numbers.  It would be pretty messy to try and record a single citation for 20 
different deeds.”



What if there are 20 deeds abstracted in the same work for the same ancestor?  
The only thing that will differ is the page number in the source citation and 
maybe the deed books – 10 of them may be in Deed Book A and the other 10 in 
Deed Book B.  That said, I do see your point about “one event – one source.”



My problem is that I find it rather monotonous to list events thusly:



James was listed on a deed on 20 Dec 1760 in Granville Co., NC.

He was listed on a deed on 30 Jan 1761 in Granville Co., NC.

James was listed on a deed on 3 Feb 1761 in Granville Co., NC.



I appreciate that Legacy defines events based on individual specific records 
for an individual.  That said, in the Register Reports I generated when using 
PAF I entered the deed abstracts or court records or other sources into a 
“Notes” section which fell after the individual’s primary family data (the 
record of his/her marriage and children).  I’m not sure whether I’d prefer that 
level of detail within the report or in the end/footnote, with the event giving 
a summation only.



Barton











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Barton,

You can create events for your land records.  There is a generic land record 
event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia 
Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.)



Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed 
separately with separate citations.  Each deed will be in different books on 
different page numbers.  I would be pretty messy to try and record a single 
citation for 20 different deeds.



Michele

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries



I have 2 questions about sources:  first, where do I enter land records?  I 
looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer.  On the Individual’s 
Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field 
and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right.  PAF had fields for Military, 
Land etc.  Does Legacy not have those?



Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in 
published abstracts of deeds.  I don’t really want to create a separate source 
entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly:  create a single 
source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments 
field with the page number in square brackets for each record.  Does that sound 
right?



Thank you.



Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] View names -- any way to get this list to include only one tag nmbr?

2015-03-29 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 30/03/2015 00:45, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 In addition, there is the Search button on the Name List/Search List
 which includes: Show all tagged ...

Yes, but I was assuming the OP wanted to show only those from the Search
List with a particular tag.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Cathy Pinner
This thread seems to have got complicated while I've been offline overnight.

Whether or not Master Source Comments are included in a Gedcom should be
controlled by whether you export the Source just with the print options
OR choose to override these and export everything. I don't know whether
this works with respect to Master Source Comments as I don't use them
much and I don't use Gedcoms much.

Brian,
If you put comments into Legacy that you want to be always Private, put
them in Privacy brackets and don't override these when reporting or
exporting.

When you are on the Assigned Sources screen and highlight a Source, you
see a preview on the Output tab at the bottom.
This has two radio buttons on it - Show Entire Source and Show Source
Using Print Options.
Are these bug free? It seems to depend on the actual source and which
combinations of checkboxes have been used.

These same options are there when you look at the Master Source list. I
don't think they are working properly there.

Bob,
If you don't want the detailed source comments included in a source
citation, you have to untick that checkbox on the screen where you added
the comment. I don't know why you'd go back and recheck it even if you
think there is a bug with the preview IF you don't actually want the
text included.

Yes you should upgrade. There is no point troubleshooting a problem in a
previous version. I nearly always download the file and install rather
than using the Home Tab. A corrupt download won't usually run.  With
earlier versions of Legacy, the download from the Home tab was selective
and only downloaded the files in the update that needed to be updated on
your computer. With Legacy 8, the whole update is downloaded and the
selection process of which files in the install file to use and which to
skip is made on your computer. So you're not saving download time by
using the Home Tab - you're just saving yourself from the install
process as where the file is and running it is all handled in the
background. If you download the file from the website, you have a file
you can use to update or install Legacy on another computer.

Cathy
 Genealogy Bob mailto:bobstr...@gmail.com
 Monday, 30 March 2015 6:46 AM
 Denise - I am talking about the OUTPUT tab of the Master, not the
 Comments.  The Footnote appends the Text/Comments from the Details,
 not from the Master.

 And this seems to confirm what Brian has commented on:Â  Using the
 same install master file I had recently downloaded, I installed Legacy
 8, 467, on a remote system, XP Pro.  I copied my bad family file, and
 my Samples file to the other system, and put them in a separate
 folder.  I started Legacy, entered my ID code to get the Deluxe
 features.  I changed no paths, and accepted the defaults, and opened
 the newly installed Samples file, not the one I copied there.  Got
 the same problem, Asa Brown's Assigned Source Footnotes include the
 Details Text, right out of the box!.  I did not even bother to try
 the two files I had copied there.Â

 This reminded me, that I had recently upgraded to 467, maybe that is
 the problem?  I downloaded the install master, did not do an auto
 upgrade.  Perhaps the install file I am using was corrupted?  But
 maybe not.  If Brian is right, this is a known problem, visually bad,
 but prints correctly.  I see that 473 is available, maybe fixed?

 So, Cathy, should I try to upgrade to 473?  Hate to make changes
 while trying to troubleshoot a problem, but Brian sounds like the
 cause is known.  How will I upgrade without needing to download an
 install file, cannot see that option?  It was here at one time, I am
 just lost at the moment.  Found it!  Tab for Legacy Home, on the
 right, click on Updates (found it, but did not do it yet, want to get
 your opinion first).

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 Genealogy Bob mailto:bobstr...@gmail.com
 Sunday, 29 March 2015 5:06 PM
 Very strange effect, just started today  In all of the Assigned
 Sources for an individual, the Details Text is included in the Source
 Output,  Footnote/Endnote Citation.  But, when I check the Master
 Source, the Footnote is perfect.

 For example this is from the Master Source Output tab for one of my
 1910 Censuses:
 *Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
 1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
 North Andover, 

[LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Genealogy Bob
Very strange effect, just started today  In all of the Assigned
Sources for an individual, the Details Text is included in the Source
Output,  Footnote/Endnote Citation.  But, when I check the Master
Source, the Footnote is perfect.

For example this is from the Master Source Output tab for one of my 1910
Censuses:
*Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
North Andover, enumeration district (ED) 0440, sheet 5A, dwelling 267
Sutton Street; digital images, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com);
citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T624, roll
T624_586;

And here is part of the Detail Text for one of the individuals:
Detail Text:
Frederick Ingram, head of household at 267 Sutton Street, North Andover,
Essex County, Massachusetts, male, white, 50 years old, married (no 1),
married for 18 years, ...

And here is the Output tab for that individual:
*Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
North Andover, enumeration district (ED) 0440, sheet 5A, dwelling 267
Sutton Street; digital images, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com);
citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T624, roll
T624_586; Frederick Ingram, head of household at 267 Sutton Street,
North Andover, Essex County, Massachusetts, male, white, 50 years old,
married (no 1), married for 18 years, born in England, father and ...

How and why does this happen?  More importantly, is how do I fix it?
Trying to Edit the Source  does not work, the Footnote elements look OK,
nothing to edit.  But when looking at the individuals' records, they are
all like this, the Details Text is added to the end of the Footnote
citation.

Using release 467, on Windows7 Pro, 32 bit.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Genealogy Bob
Thanks for reply, Cathy.  My answers follow each question.

On 3/29/2015 5:27 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 1. Did it just start today or did you just notice it today?
/Always a tough question, but I just noticed it today. /
 2. When you look at the Source Detail for one of these sources on the
 Assigned Sources screen, is there a tick in the checkbox to Add this
 text to the Source Citation on reports?
/Yes, there is a tick.  I removed it, saved it, saw no difference, so I
set it on again./
 3. Have you made any changes in Options - Customise 7.3?
 If you find all those checkboxes ticked, this is where you can turn
 them all off (or on) by making your choice and clicking Apply - BUT
 note that it applies to ALL SOURCES in the whole file. So make a
 backup first as you may quickly realise that sometimes you want the
 source text and sometimes you don't.
/NO, I don't believe I made any changes here.  The first two are
checked, the last 3 are empty.  Level is set to 3./ Hmm, my original
notes only showed four check boxes, was a fifth one added in the past year?
 4.  If you haven't made changes at 7.3 then I'd do some File
 Maintenance (on the File Ribbon) after doing a Backup AND reset the
 Report Options and choose again.
/I did a File Maintenance, Check/Repair with no changes.   What do you
mean by reset the Report Options?  Where and to what values?//  Need to
reboot between changes?/

/New observations that may help or confuse:
//5. //Option 7.4 is set to ON for prompts, but I never get prompted
when using the Source Clipboard.  And I always use Source Writer, and
nothing has been imported//./

/6.  I just opened Samples and Asa Brown's family has the same
symptoms//./  I am going to see if I can get the files to another
computer to compare (not sure I will have access to do that).






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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen

2015-03-29 Thread Ana
Well - I disagree that baptism vs christening are not important. Nor are
they the same in many religions.

The following is over simplifying a complex issue:

Church of England, Presbyterians  other religions = christen infants - the
ceremony recognizes the baby into the body of church members, who in turn -
promise to help guide the infant thru childhood.   This involves sponsors 
godparents (not so much in today's world)
  If your family joins that church at a later age - say - you are a young
teenager - you would then be baptized as Presbyterian  so forth.

Baptists  other religions - baptize when a young person is old enough to
accept the teachings of Christ.  This would of a young teenager - not an
infant.

Of course - you can join either group at any age -  you would be baptized
into the church.

** Example = My 6th great grandmother - Mary Cantrell was baptized 6 Oct
1744 - Welsh Tract Baptist Meeting, Pencader Hundred, New Castle Co.,
Del.

Being Baptist - therefore she is NOT an infant - but a young teenager
enables us to place a birth year about 1728 or so.

Now - if you combine Christening  Bapti as the same - you would give my
Mary a birth of cir 1744.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:47 AM, genetree genet...@wave.co.nz wrote:

 Don't get too hung up on the terminology :) the reason for the prominence
 given to baptism or christening in genealogy is that before civic recording
 of births, a baptism could be used as a birth date indicator.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 29/03/2015, at 15:40, Ana anacyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh - I wish there was such an option!!

 Christening is for infants in many religions.   Baptism - often means -
 when one joins the Church, which can be for any age from teenager on up.
 Some religions do not recognize infant Baptism.

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Ila East sunnydays1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know there is a way to globally change christening to baptism, but is
 there any way to change it just for a few people? As we know, not all our
 ancestors did things exactly the same way.

 Ila Easr

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RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-03-29 Thread Michele/Support
Barton,

The Descendant Book Report is where you will find the Register and Modified 
Register (NGSQ) formats.

The way you have entered your land transaction is different than I have ever 
seen.  You have entered a single event for all of the land around a particular 
body of water and combined all off the deeds into a single citation?   This is 
a bit messy.  Just my personal opinion but each land transaction needs to be 
its own event with its own citation.  You can easily mention other related 
transactions in the notes such as, Jacob and his brother's John and Joseph 
bought adjoining pieces of land on Little Black Creek.

As far as source text/comments and detail text/comments printing in the 
footnotes you need to have these selected to print.  You will find this in two 
places.  You can do it singly on the Master Source screen for that source 
(right under where you entered the text/comments) and on the detail screen 
(right under the text/comments) and you can do it globally in Option 7.2. If 
you make a change there you need to click the Apply button over on the right.

Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.legacyfamilytree.com

-Original Message-
From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:18 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

Thank you, Jenny.  A few follow up questions:

1.  I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned land and put 
all the deeds for that body in that event.  In the source detail, I copied the 
abstracts just as they were given in the book in the Text/Comments field.

When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not print out 
in the footnote.  I looked for an option to do that but did not see it.  Is 
there one?  I'd like researchers to see exactly what is in the abstract.

2.  In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably the 
equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy.  (Please let me know if there 
is another.)  The report was continuous and did not break down into generations 
like Legacy's and the footnotes all appeared at the end.  Is that possible in 
Legacy?

Thanks,

Barton






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RE: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-03-29 Thread Michele/Support
Barton,

You can create events for your land records.  There is a generic land record 
event but I prefer to make mine a little more specific (things like Georgia 
Headright, Bounty Land Warrant, etc.)



Totally up to you the way you handle deeds but I prefer to record each deed 
separately with separate citations.  Each deed will be in different books on 
different page numbers.  I would be pretty messy to try and record a single 
citation for 20 different deeds.



Michele

Technical Support

 mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com



From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:56 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries



I have 2 questions about sources:  first, where do I enter land records?  I 
looked (also on Help) and did not see an obvious answer.  On the Individual’s 
Information page, for example, I guess I could click inside the surname field 
and add it there but I’m not sure that’s right.  PAF had fields for Military, 
Land etc.  Does Legacy not have those?



Also, some ancestors have dozens of records in a single county – e.g. in 
published abstracts of deeds.  I don’t really want to create a separate source 
entry for each one – I thought I would handle it thusly:  create a single 
source, leave the page field blank, and paste the text into the Text/Comments 
field with the page number in square brackets for each record.  Does that sound 
right?



Thank you.



Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen

2015-03-29 Thread Brian/Support
As a member of the Anglican faith, Canadian equivalent of the Church of
England, I can tell you that we baptize infants we do not christen them.
It is the sacrament wherein they are made followers of Christ. There is
no naming element although the priest does ask the parents/sponsors
the name of the child so it can be used as their name in the baptism.
There is a variation of the baptism service for those who were not
baptized as an infant where the promises are made by the child rather
than the sponsors but both are baptisms. We recognize baptism by any
Christian sect as a valid sacrament.

Do you know of any  religions which have both a christening and a baptism?

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 29/03/2015 11:48 AM, Ana wrote:
 Well - I disagree that baptism vs christening are not important. Nor are
 they the same in many religions.

 The following is over simplifying a complex issue:

 Church of England, Presbyterians  other religions = christen infants - the
 ceremony recognizes the baby into the body of church members, who in turn -
 promise to help guide the infant thru childhood.   This involves sponsors 
 godparents (not so much in today's world)
If your family joins that church at a later age - say - you are a young
 teenager - you would then be baptized as Presbyterian  so forth.

 Baptists  other religions - baptize when a young person is old enough to
 accept the teachings of Christ.  This would of a young teenager - not an
 infant.

 Of course - you can join either group at any age -  you would be baptized
 into the church.

 ** Example = My 6th great grandmother - Mary Cantrell was baptized 6 Oct
 1744 - Welsh Tract Baptist Meeting, Pencader Hundred, New Castle Co.,
 Del.

 Being Baptist - therefore she is NOT an infant - but a young teenager
 enables us to place a birth year about 1728 or so.

 Now - if you combine Christening  Bapti as the same - you would give my
 Mary a birth of cir 1744.

 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:47 AM, genetree genet...@wave.co.nz wrote:

 Don't get too hung up on the terminology :) the reason for the prominence
 given to baptism or christening in genealogy is that before civic recording
 of births, a baptism could be used as a birth date indicator.


 Sent from my iPad

 On 29/03/2015, at 15:40, Ana anacyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh - I wish there was such an option!!

 Christening is for infants in many religions.   Baptism - often means -
 when one joins the Church, which can be for any age from teenager on up.
 Some religions do not recognize infant Baptism.

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Ila East sunnydays1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know there is a way to globally change christening to baptism, but is
 there any way to change it just for a few people? As we know, not all our
 ancestors did things exactly the same way.

 Ila Easr

 http://diabeticdogrocky.blogspot.com
 http://ilasrambings.blogspot.com

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RE: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
I think I know what he is talking about and I believe that I can confirm what 
he says is true. However, what he is seeing is only what I would call a 
“preview” of a complete all-inclusive footnote which includes all comments 
regardless of what the setting on the Comments tab of a Master Source 
Definition to “include on Reports” is checked or not. But the safe thing is 
that while these comments always appear on that “preview”, the checkbox to 
include or not to include will work properly when a report is generated. I 
first noticed this inclusion of all comments on the “preview” several versions 
ago in v8 and may have been there all along since then introduction of v8. I 
considered it a very minor bug and have been surprised that nobody else has 
mentioned it up till now. Until other more pressing and important bugs have 
been swatted, I may have brought it up at a later time.



Here is a more detailed explanation:

I have an assigned source to an event that is from someone’s family file 
submission on Ancestry.com. In the Comments tab of that Master Source, I have 
the submitting person’s name, home address, phone number, and email address as 
well as some other info about that person, their relationship to me, whether I 
like them or not…you get the picture. Private stuff. Of course, I don’t want 
that private information printed out on any report so on the Comments tab of 
the Master Source Definition is where I have that private information. At the 
bottom of that Comments tab is that option to “Include on Reports..” I have 
that checkbox empty. If I Save that Master Source Definition and then look at 
the Assigned Sources of events for the person in the family file and select 
that Master Source, down at the bottom of that window, if the “Output” tab is 
selected, will appear what I am calling a “preview” of the Footnote/Citation 
and also the Subsequent Citation. The bad news is that my info from the 
Comments section that I wanted to keep private appears in each citation.  Going 
back to the Master Source and placing a checkmark in the Include on Reports or 
removing the checkmark will have no effect on the appearance of the info on the 
Comments tab. But once again, I have learned to call this a “preview” of what 
an all-inclusive footnote might look like. And once again, if that checkmark is 
removed to not Include on Reports, then that private info is not included on 
any reports generated.



I think it’s an oversight by the programmers and unless you actually check the 
output in the report, you’ll get paranoid when you view these Footnotes on the 
Assigned Sources window. Of course, the programmers may want to argue that 
point and say that they did it that way intentionally just so everyone could 
see a complete all-inclusive footnote. You say tomato and I say tomato (wait, 
that doesn’t work on written work.)



Now for the really bad news that nobody has yet caught. I seems this info on 
the Comment tab of a Master Source is always included on a GEDCOM submission 
which kind of negates my idea of keeping it private.





Brian in CA









From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:28 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.



Did it just start today or did you just notice it today?
When you look at the Source Detail for one of these sources on the Assigned 
Sources screen, is there a tick in the checkbox to Add this text to the Source 
Citation on reports?

Have you made any changes in Options - Customise 7.3
If you find all those checkboxes ticked, this is where you can turn them all 
off (or on) by making your choice and clicking Apply - BUT note that it applies 
to ALL SOURCES in the whole file. So make a backup first as you may quickly 
realise that sometimes you want the source text and sometimes you don't.

If you haven't made changes at 7.3 then I'd do some File Maintenance (on the 
File Ribbon) after doing a Backup AND reset the Report Options and choose again.

Cathy

Genealogy Bob wrote:




Very strange effect, just started today . ... In all of the Assigned
Sources for an individual, the Details Text is included in the Source
Output,  Footnote/Endnote Citation.  But, when I check the Master
Source, the Footnote is perfect.

For example this is from the Master Source Output tab for one of my
1910 Censuses:
*Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
North Andover, enumeration district (ED) 0440, sheet 5A, dwelling 267
Sutton Street; digital images,
Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and
Records Administration microfilm T624, roll T624_586;

And here is part of the Detail Text for one of the individuals:
Detail Text:
Frederick Ingram, head of household at 267 Sutton Street, North
Andover, Essex County, Massachusetts, male, white, 50 years old,
married (no 1), married for 18 years, 

Re: [LegacyUG] View names -- any way to get this list to include only one tag nmbr?

2015-03-29 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 29/03/2015 02:14, Pat Hickin wrote:
 Yes, that's it!!  Thanks, Jenny.  Now how do I get the view names list
 to include only individuals with a particular tag number?

I presume you mean viewing the list of people who use a particular
Source and are already Tagged with a particular number?  In which case,
when you're viewing the list, click on Create Search List.then click
Create New Search List.  Now Advanced Search and Search for Individual
with Tag 1 equal to Tagged and check the bottom radio button, Only
Search the Search List.  Click create list.

If the people you want to view are not already Tagged, when you have
created the list from  the Master Source screen you have the option to
Tag all the people in the list with a chosen Tag number.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] one source entry - many entries

2015-03-29 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 29/03/2015 02:18, Barton Lewis wrote:
 1.  I created an event for the water body where my ancestor owned
 land and put all the deeds for that body in that event.  In the
 source detail, I copied the abstracts just as they were given in the
 book in the Text/Comments field.

 When I generated a descendant book report, the source detail did not
 print out in the footnote.  I looked for an option to do that but did
 not see it.  Is there one?  I'd like researchers to see exactly what
 is in the abstract.

When you entered the Text, did you tick the box just below for Add this
Text to the Source Citation on Reports?  (Or, Add these Comments to
the Source Citation on Reports, if appliccable?)

 2.  In PAF you could print a register report which is presumably
 the equivalent of a descendant book report in Legacy.  (Please let me
 know if there is another.)  The report was continuous and did not
 break down into generations like Legacy's and the footnotes all
 appeared at the end.  Is that possible in Legacy?

When you select Descendant Book Report, the first screen has several
tabs and the first one is Options.  On the left, about halfway down you
can select Modified Register or Register.  Does selecting Register give
you what you want?

Footnotes which appear at the end are Endnotes!  If you click Report
Options on that first screen, then select the Sources tab, you can
choose whether you want to print Footnotes or Endnotes and if you choose
Endnotes there is a further choice for at the end of each generation
or at the end of the book.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Cathy Pinner
Did it just start today or did you just notice it today?
When you look at the Source Detail for one of these sources on the
Assigned Sources screen, is there a tick in the checkbox to Add this
text to the Source Citation on reports?

Have you made any changes in Options - Customise 7.3
If you find all those checkboxes ticked, this is where you can turn them
all off (or on) by making your choice and clicking Apply - BUT note that
it applies to ALL SOURCES in the whole file. So make a backup first as
you may quickly realise that sometimes you want the source text and
sometimes you don't.

If you haven't made changes at 7.3 then I'd do some File Maintenance (on
the File Ribbon) after doing a Backup AND reset the Report Options and
choose again.

Cathy

Genealogy Bob wrote:

 Very strange effect, just started today  In all of the Assigned
 Sources for an individual, the Details Text is included in the Source
 Output, Footnote/Endnote Citation. But, when I check the Master
 Source, the Footnote is perfect.

 For example this is from the Master Source Output tab for one of my
 1910 Censuses:
 *Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
 1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
 North Andover, enumeration district (ED) 0440, sheet 5A, dwelling 267
 Sutton Street; digital images,
 Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and
 Records Administration microfilm T624, roll T624_586;

 And here is part of the Detail Text for one of the individuals:
 Detail Text:
 Frederick Ingram, head of household at 267 Sutton Street, North
 Andover, Essex County, Massachusetts, male, white, 50 years old,
 married (no 1), married for 18 years, ...

 And here is the Output tab for that individual:
 *Footnote/Endnote Citation:*
 1910 U.S. census, Essex County, Massachusetts, population schedule,
 North Andover, enumeration district (ED) 0440, sheet 5A, dwelling 267
 Sutton Street; digital images,
 Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and
 Records Administration microfilm T624, roll T624_586; Frederick
 Ingram, head of household at 267 Sutton Street, North Andover, Essex
 County, Massachusetts, male, white, 50 years old, married (no 1),
 married for 18 years, born in England, father and ...

 How and why does this happen? More importantly, is how do I fix
 it? Trying to Edit the Source does not work, the Footnote elements
 look OK, nothing to edit. But when looking at the individuals'
 records, they are all like this, the Details Text is added to the end
 of the Footnote citation.

 Using release 467, on Windows7 Pro, 32 bit.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual's Information Screen

2015-03-29 Thread genetree
Don't get too hung up on the terminology :) the reason for the prominence given 
to baptism or christening in genealogy is that before civic recording of 
births, a baptism could be used as a birth date indicator.


Sent from my iPad

 On 29/03/2015, at 15:40, Ana anacyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh - I wish there was such an option!!

 Christening is for infants in many religions.   Baptism - often means - when 
 one joins the Church, which can be for any age from teenager on up.  Some 
 religions do not recognize infant Baptism.

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Ila East sunnydays1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know there is a way to globally change christening to baptism, but is 
 there any way to change it just for a few people? As we know, not all our 
 ancestors did things exactly the same way.

 Ila Easr

 http://diabeticdogrocky.blogspot.com
 http://ilasrambings.blogspot.com

 Sent from my iPad



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RE: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch
You are speaking of the Comments tab of the Master Source Definition dialog? 
Especially with the import of a GEDCOM? The information in the Comments tab – I 
use the Contents tab to describe the general contents of a source – imports 
into Legacy turned on, but not other software at which I am looking.



If so, I asked about this a couple of months ago (Dec 2014) while ‘looking over 
Legacy” (I am still ‘looking’ not ‘actively’ using yet) when importing a 
GEDCOM. I even filed a suggestion report. It was recommended I handle the 
situation using option 7.3 by ‘turn on’, running, then ‘turn off’ and running 
again, that option to remove display of the Comments tab information following 
a test import of a GEDCOM file.



Best,



Denise



From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.



I think I know what he is talking about and I believe that I can confirm what 
he says is true. However, what he is seeing is only what I would call a 
“preview” of a complete all-inclusive footnote which includes all comments 
regardless of what the setting on the Comments tab of a Master Source 
Definition to “include on Reports” is checked or not. But the safe thing is 
that while these comments always appear on that “preview”, the checkbox to 
include or not to include will work properly when a report is generated. I 
first noticed this inclusion of all comments on the “preview” several versions 
ago in v8 and may have been there all along since then introduction of v8. I 
considered it a very minor bug and have been surprised that nobody else has 
mentioned it up till now. Until other more pressing and important bugs have 
been swatted, I may have brought it up at a later time.



Here is a more detailed explanation:

I have an assigned source to an event that is from someone’s family file 
submission on Ancestry.com. In the Comments tab of that Master Source, I have 
the submitting person’s name, home address, phone number, and email address as 
well as some other info about that person, their relationship to me, whether I 
like them or not…you get the picture. Private stuff. Of course, I don’t want 
that private information printed out on any report so on the Comments tab of 
the Master Source Definition is where I have that private information. At the 
bottom of that Comments tab is that option to “Include on Reports..” I have 
that checkbox empty. If I Save that Master Source Definition and then look at 
the Assigned Sources of events for the person in the family file and select 
that Master Source, down at the bottom of that window, if the “Output” tab is 
selected, will appear what I am calling a “preview” of the Footnote/Citation 
and also the Subsequent Citation. The bad news is that my info from the 
Comments section that I wanted to keep private appears in each citation.  Going 
back to the Master Source and placing a checkmark in the Include on Reports or 
removing the checkmark will have no effect on the appearance of the info on the 
Comments tab. But once again, I have learned to call this a “preview” of what 
an all-inclusive footnote might look like. And once again, if that checkmark is 
removed to not Include on Reports, then that private info is not included on 
any reports generated.



I think it’s an oversight by the programmers and unless you actually check the 
output in the report, you’ll get paranoid when you view these Footnotes on the 
Assigned Sources window. Of course, the programmers may want to argue that 
point and say that they did it that way intentionally just so everyone could 
see a complete all-inclusive footnote. You say tomato and I say tomato (wait, 
that doesn’t work on written work.)



Now for the really bad news that nobody has yet caught. I seems this info on 
the Comment tab of a Master Source is always included on a GEDCOM submission 
which kind of negates my idea of keeping it private.





Brian in CA









From: Cathy Pinner [ mailto:genea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:28 AM
To:  mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.



Did it just start today or did you just notice it today?
When you look at the Source Detail for one of these sources on the Assigned 
Sources screen, is there a tick in the checkbox to Add this text to the Source 
Citation on reports?

Have you made any changes in Options - Customise 7.3
If you find all those checkboxes ticked, this is where you can turn them all 
off (or on) by making your choice and clicking Apply - BUT note that it applies 
to ALL SOURCES in the whole file. So make a backup first as you may quickly 
realise that sometimes you want the source text and sometimes you don't.

If you haven't made changes at 7.3 then I'd do some File 

[LegacyUG] Gedcom import dropping Child Sealings

2015-03-29 Thread Stuart Armstrong
Hello Legacyusergroup,

   When  examining  a GEDCOM import into Legacy from TMG, I discovered
   that  about  90%  of  the  Sealing  to  Parent entries are missing.
   Instead,  the same exact text Seal to Parents: @I8851@ appears in
   the  notes  for  all  of  the  persons  whose  sealing  to  parents
   information   is   missing.  That text doesn't make much sense, and
   there is nothing special about individual #8851.

   I  examined  the  gedcom  file and found nothing wrong with it. The
   information  is  all  there  in  the proper format, and there is no
   difference between the ones that imported and the ones that didn't.
   It  seems to be random. The number of SLGC tags in the TMG file was
   3612, but the number successfully imported by Legacy was only about
   three or four hundred.

   The  GEDCOM  import was without errors, and only a few items in the
   unrecognized lines log, mostly name dates.




   Also,  when  sharing  data  with  FamilySearch,  If I click on Add
   Ordinances  to  Legacy,  all  the ordinances are copied over - but
   only  about  30% of the time - the rest of the time, the Sealing to
   Parents  information  has  to be copied manually. This is with full
   valid date and temple data in FamilySearch.

--
Best regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Details text showing up in Footnote citation.

2015-03-29 Thread Genealogy Bob
Denise - I am talking about the OUTPUT tab of the Master, not the
Comments.  The Footnote appends the Text/Comments from the Details, not
from the Master.

And this seems to confirm what Brian has commented on:  Using the same
install master file I had recently downloaded, I installed Legacy 8,
467, on a remote system, XP Pro.  I copied my bad family file, and my
Samples file to the other system, and put them in a separate folder.  I
started Legacy, entered my ID code to get the Deluxe features.  I
changed no paths, and accepted the defaults, and opened the newly
installed Samples file, not the one I copied there.  Got the same
problem, Asa Brown's Assigned Source Footnotes include the Details Text,
right out of the box!.  I did not even bother to try the two files I had
copied there.

This reminded me, that I had recently upgraded to 467, maybe that is the
problem?  I downloaded the install master, did not do an auto upgrade.
Perhaps the install file I am using was corrupted?  But maybe not.  If
Brian is right, this is a known problem, visually bad, but prints
correctly.  I see that 473 is available, maybe fixed?

So, Cathy, should I try to upgrade to 473?  Hate to make changes while
trying to troubleshoot a problem, but Brian sounds like the cause is
known.  How will I upgrade without needing to download an install file,
cannot see that option?  It was here at one time, I am just lost at the
moment.  Found it!  Tab for Legacy Home, on the right, click on
Updates (found it, but did not do it yet, want to get your opinion first).

===
On 3/29/2015 5:41 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch wrote:

 You are speaking of the Comments tab of the Master Source Definition
 dialog? Especially with the import of a GEDCOM? The information in the
 Comments tab – I use the Contents tab to describe the general contents
 of a source – imports into Legacy turned on, but not other software at
 which I am looking.

 If so, I asked about this a couple of months ago (Dec 2014) while
 ‘looking over Legacy” (I am still ‘looking’ not ‘actively’ using 
 yet)
 when importing a GEDCOM. I even filed a suggestion report. It was
 recommended I handle the situation using option 7.3 by ‘turn on’,
 running, then ‘turn off’ and running again, that option to remove
 display of the Comments tab information following a test import of a
 GEDCOM file.

 Best,

 Denise







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Re: [LegacyUG] View names -- any way to get this list to include only one tag nmbr?

2015-03-29 Thread Cathy Pinner
In addition, there is the Search button on the Name List/Search List
which includes: Show all tagged ...

Jenny M Benson wrote:

 On 29/03/2015 02:14, Pat Hickin wrote:

 Yes, that's it!! Thanks, Jenny. Now how do I get the view names list
 to include only individuals with a particular tag number?


 I presume you mean viewing the list of people who use a particular
 Source and are already Tagged with a particular number? In which case,
 when you're viewing the list, click on Create Search List.then click
 Create New Search List. Now Advanced Search and Search for Individual
 with Tag 1 equal to Tagged and check the bottom radio button, Only
 Search the Search List. Click create list.

 If the people you want to view are not already Tagged, when you have
 created the list from the Master Source screen you have the option to
 Tag all the people in the list with a chosen Tag number.




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