Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-05-21 Thread Brian/Support
The problem reported below (Clear all was not clearing User ID for
marriages) is now fixed and is included in the latest update to Legacy
8.0. All User IDs, Individual and Marriage are now cleared.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 11/03/2014 9:28 PM, J.M. Jay Ingalls wrote:
 Thanks to the people who checked for duplicate ID numbers and did not
 find a software problem.

 I did go to the Sample data base.

 Checked for duplicate ID numbers and none found.
 Went to the customize option and used the option to clear all ID
 numbers, none found.
 Used the option to use the prefix JMI and the RIN number to set ID
 numbers for all.
 220 set.
 Used the clear all, says cleared 160!
 Set the ID numbers again, the same way, says 160 set.
 Cleared again, 160 cleared.
 Name list says contains 160 individuals
 Ran the merge duplicate ID numbers again, none found.

 The 220 set, 160 cleared, 160 set, 160 cleared indicates there is a
 software problem.

 Would appreciate it if some of you would try this on the Sample data
 base. I am beginning to suspect that I may have a bad Legacy usr file
 or something.

 I Tried this on an old Legacy 7.5 file and had similar results as for
 the Legacy 8 Sample file.

 62,168 Individuals in file
 50,837 duplicate ID numbers
 61,503 cleared (all)
 84,620 set (all)
 62,168 cleared
 Last 2 steps repeated

 Jay Ingalls



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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-12 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
Brian,

Thanks for working on my problem. Is there any file in Legacy that saves
anything about ID Numbers like the usr files?

Or any chance the search for ID Numbers is also checking the MRIN or RIN
numbers or something else? Or is the search stopping at the dash or
something and/or calling all with some particular character a duplicate?

I have scrolled through thousands of ID numbers and not found many
duplicate ID numbers except for the Burleigh numbers being the same for
everyone in Generation #  10, etc. That is only  small portion of the
reported duplicates.

I did find some Ancestry numbers in the ID Number field and moved themG.

Jay


On 3/11/2014 8:45 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
 I applied the RINs preceded by RIN- to my database of about 5,000. I
 had used the ID field years ago when inputting data on my maternal
 grandparents descendants from a report created by a cousin at a family
 reunion so there were some manual IDs in the file as well, it was a
 spreadsheet and I used the line number for each person as their ID
 number. A duplicate ID field search found 296 duplicates. The first
 dozen I checked were all valid duplicate ID numbers because the
 spreadsheet had both husbands and wives on the same line number.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 On 07/03/2014 6:55 PM, J.M. Jay Ingalls wrote:
 If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
 duplicate ID numbers?

 Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
 Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

 I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
 numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
 with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
 Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

 I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
 data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
 The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
 numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
 his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
 added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
 that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
 dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
 removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
 number such as B1222-10.

 I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
 with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

 I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
 identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
 there is a software problem.

 Jay Ingalls


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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-11 Thread Kurt Kneeland
Curious.  I tried on my database which is about the same size and it only found 
12 duplicates and all seem to be correctly identified.  The duplicated id shows 
in the title line of duplicates window.  Did you notice anything strange about 
the ID #'s it was displaying as duplicate?  Were they truncated?  Ignoring the 
alpha component?

-Original Message-
From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for duplicate 
ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search, Find 
duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID 
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past with 
previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the Name List, 
I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported data long 
ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID numbers 
starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from his book. The 
book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she added to her data 
are descendants of some one in his book. She handled that by using the number 
for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a dash number indicating the 
number of generations an individual is removed from B1. So, there can be many 
descendants with the same ID number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People with ID 
Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few 
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like there 
is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls



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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-11 Thread C.G. Ouimet
V800-414.

120,902 individuals.

No User ID Duplicates.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: March 11, 2014 05:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

Curious.  I tried on my database which is about the same size and it only found 
12 duplicates and all seem to be correctly identified.  The duplicated id shows 
in the title line of duplicates window.  Did you notice anything strange about 
the ID #'s it was displaying as duplicate?  Were they truncated?  Ignoring the 
alpha component?

-Original Message-
From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for duplicate 
ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search, Find 
duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID 
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past with 
previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the Name List, 
I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported data long 
ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID numbers 
starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from his book. The 
book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she added to her data 
are descendants of some one in his book. She handled that by using the number 
for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a dash number indicating the 
number of generations an individual is removed from B1. So, there can be many 
descendants with the same ID number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People with ID 
Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few 
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like there 
is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls



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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-11 Thread Brian/Support
I applied the RINs preceded by RIN- to my database of about 5,000. I
had used the ID field years ago when inputting data on my maternal
grandparents descendants from a report created by a cousin at a family
reunion so there were some manual IDs in the file as well, it was a
spreadsheet and I used the line number for each person as their ID
number. A duplicate ID field search found 296 duplicates. The first
dozen I checked were all valid duplicate ID numbers because the
spreadsheet had both husbands and wives on the same line number.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 07/03/2014 6:55 PM, J.M. Jay Ingalls wrote:
 If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
 duplicate ID numbers?

 Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
 Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

 I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
 numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
 with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
 Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

 I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
 data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
 The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
 numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
 his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
 added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
 that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
 dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
 removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
 number such as B1222-10.

 I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
 with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

 I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
 identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
 there is a software problem.

 Jay Ingalls



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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-11 Thread Brian/Support
The 220 set count include MRINs where the ID was set as well as the 160
individual RINS. The Sample database has 60 marriages and 160 people for
a total of 220.

The cleared count looks like it is not clearing those 60 Marriage IDs
that were set. That is a problem I have input to our reporting system.

Brian
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On 11/03/2014 9:28 PM, J.M. Jay Ingalls wrote:
 Thanks to the people who checked for duplicate ID numbers and did not
 find a software problem.

 I did go to the Sample data base.

 Checked for duplicate ID numbers and none found.

 Went to the customize option and used the option to clear all ID
 numbers, none found.

 Used the option to use the prefix JMI and the RIN number to set ID
 numbers for all.

 220 set.

 Used the clear all, says cleared 160!

 Set the ID numbers again, the same way, says 160 set.

 Cleared again, 160 cleared.

 Name list says contains 160 individuals

 Ran the merge duplicate ID numbers again, none found.

 The 220 set, 160 cleared, 160 set, 160 cleared indicates there is a
 software problem.

 Would appreciate it if some of you would try this on the Sample data
 base. I am beginning to suspect that I may have a bad Legacy usr file
 or something.

 I Tried this on an old Legacy 7.5 file and had similar results as for
 the Legacy 8 Sample file.

 62,168 Individuals in file
 50,837 duplicate ID numbers
 61,503 cleared (all)
 84,620 set (all)
 62,168 cleared
 Last 2 steps repeated

 Jay Ingalls



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[LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-11 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
Thanks to the people who checked for duplicate ID numbers and did not
find a software problem.

I did go to the Sample data base.

Checked for duplicate ID numbers and none found.

Went to the customize option and used the option to clear all ID
numbers, none found.

Used the option to use the prefix JMI and the RIN number to set ID
numbers for all.

220 set.

Used the clear all, says cleared 160!

Set the ID numbers again, the same way, says 160 set.

Cleared again, 160 cleared.

Name list says contains 160 individuals

Ran the merge duplicate ID numbers again, none found.

The 220 set, 160 cleared, 160 set, 160 cleared indicates there is a
software problem.

Would appreciate it if some of you would try this on the Sample data
base. I am beginning to suspect that I may have a bad Legacy usr file
or something.

I Tried this on an old Legacy 7.5 file and had similar results as for
the Legacy 8 Sample file.

62,168 Individuals in file
50,837 duplicate ID numbers
61,503 cleared (all)
84,620 set (all)
62,168 cleared
Last 2 steps repeated

Jay Ingalls



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[LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-07 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
duplicate ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
there is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls



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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-07 Thread Ron Ferguson
Jay,

What do you expect when you have two systems of ID in the same database?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

J.M. Jay Ingalls  jay_inga...@pipeline.com wrote:

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
duplicate ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
there is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls



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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

2014-03-07 Thread R G Strong-genes
Jay,
If you are referring to the User ID field. There is no software problem with
that field. That field is not a number field but is a text field and can
have any data in it you designate. The only numbers that should not have
duplicates are the RIN and MRIN which are assigned automatically by the
database.

User ID

This field is for any reference number you want to record for this
individual.  You can use any combination of letters, numbers and punctuation
marks.  There is a tool on the Options  Customize  Other tab where you can
automatically fill the User ID fields for all individuals with the RIN
numbers and optional text.


-Original Message-
From: J.M. Jay Ingalls
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
duplicate ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
there is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls

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