Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-25 Thread Anne Hollingshead
If you just change the simple brackets to [[...]] it won't show in
reports.

Anne

On 25/02/2014 8:05 AM, David Abernathy wrote:

 I agree with Jay, I like to have something there to tell others that
 it is missing.

 I use some of the following, this also gives me a list within the
 Index that I have unknown names:

 Jane ? (Wife of Peter Jones)

 Ann? (Mother of Peter Jones)

 ? Smith (Husband of Ann Lyons)

 ? Smith (Father of William Smith)

 Yes this does not look so nice in any report, but like Jay say, it is
 an eye catcher and brings in information.

 REMEMBER that there is NO right or wrong way, just what one prefers to
 do and WORKs for them.

 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 *From:*Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 Sherry,

 I have to disagree with you.

 Over the last 20 years I have sent out over 5000 letters to families,
 friends and potential relatives asking for information and usually
 including some sort of report.

 A field that is blank rarely prompts' a reader to respond, whereas a
 field with EITHER Missing or Unknown will trigger the reader to
 think Oh, I have that info they don't have.

 And the same for dates, If you have the date of birth is 1901, they
 continue reading. If they read the date of birth is Abt. 1901,
 they think, I know that EXACT date they don't have, and that thought
 process by the reader will elicit more responses.

 So in my database any unknown given name or surname is listed as
 unknown. And every incomplete date is prefaced by either abt., aft.,
 bef.,  bet.,  or cir.

 Which also works great with Legacy's date sorting 'logic' which is
 better than most other software.

 At least that is my experience.

 But I recommend whatever the particular user feels best for them, is
 the best way to do it.

 Jay

 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 To add to Michele's comment

 If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
 the Search tab Missing Information and show underlines for missing
 information in Ancestor and Descendant books.

 Also, if you share FGR or other reports with other family members, if
 the field is blank it quickly catches their eye and they have a place
 to help update the information you're missing.

 If anything is entered in a field, it won't be found as Missing in
 the Missing Information search. Legacy is looking for an empty field.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Michele/Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:
  Susan,
 
  I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for
 example,
  where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe,
 his wife
  is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.

 
  Michele
  Technical Support
  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
 
  From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au
 mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
 
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People
 
  What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
  know?
 
  I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first
 name
  only.
 
  Many thanks
 
  Susan



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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Michele/Support
Susan,

I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for example, 
where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his wife is 
simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.





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From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People



What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t know?



I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name only.



Many thanks

Susan



Researching; Pegrum, Aitchison, Rafferty,  Armstrong, Crawford, Haggis, 
Elliott, Foley, Whitelaw, Lewry, Mewburn, Riddell, Pearman,





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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Gene Young
On 2/24/2014 7:05 AM, Michele/Support wrote:
 Susan,

 I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for example, 
 where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his wife is 
 simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 *From:* Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t 
 know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name 
 only.

 Many thanks

 Susan

If I know the first name but not the last I enter John [[unknown]].
Likewise if I know the last but not first I enter [[unknown]] Doe.
If I know a wife's first name but not her maiden name I enter her as Jane 
[[Doe]].
This way I can tell at a glance who goes where and it makes it easy to create a 
list of people who's names I need to do more research on.  The privacy brackets 
ensure I am the only one who see's this information.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread MikeFry
On 24 Feb 2014 15:02, Gene Young wrote:

 If I know the first name but not the last I enter John [[unknown]].
 Likewise if I know the last but not first I enter [[unknown]] Doe.
 If I know a wife's first name but not her maiden name I enter her as Jane 
 [[Doe]].

There's no need to enter the Surname as [[Unknown]]. Legacy has an option for
it. See 3.11

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Gene Young
On 2/24/2014 8:18 AM, MikeFry wrote:
 On 24 Feb 2014 15:02, Gene Young wrote:

 If I know the first name but not the last I enter John [[unknown]].
 Likewise if I know the last but not first I enter [[unknown]] Doe.
 If I know a wife's first name but not her maiden name I enter her as Jane 
 [[Doe]].

 There's no need to enter the Surname as [[Unknown]]. Legacy has an option for
 it. See 3.11

No, that enters Unknown w/o privacy brackets and will show on reports.
My way shows nothing on reports and allows ME to control how it appears.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Sherry/Support
To add to Michele's comment

If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
the Search tab Missing Information and show underlines for missing
information in Ancestor and Descendant books.

Also, if you share FGR or other reports with other family members, if
the field is blank it quickly catches their eye and they have a place
to help update the information you're missing.

If anything is entered in a field, it won't be found as Missing in
the Missing Information search. Legacy is looking for an empty field.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Michele/Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 Susan,

 I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for example,
 where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his wife
 is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.


 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



 From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM

 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
 know?

 I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
 only.

 Many thanks

 Susan



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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Alex MacPhee

 If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
 the Search tab Missing Information
That's such an astonishingly simple yet useful tip, especially since missing 
information is so often a characteristic of genealogical research. This, along 
with To-Do lists, proved among the most unexpectedly useful features of Legacy 
for managing my research tasks.
Alex


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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
One thing I did not see mentioned is that in the Name list of people
in your data, you can select the option to use the husband's surname as
a second entry for the wife. Then you can find the wife with her
married name. I keep that option set most of the time. I remember many
people by their given name but not by their surname or married name, so
I use the given name fairly often to find people in my data. Having the
married name for wives is a big help.

I do not see any need to have Jane Doe as an AKA.

Jay

On 2/24/2014 6:05 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

 Susan,

 I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for
 example, where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John
 Doe, his wife is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.

 Michele

 Technical Support

 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 *From:* Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you
 don’t know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first
 name only.

 Many thanks

 Susan

 Researching; Pegrum, Aitchison, Rafferty,  Armstrong, Crawford,
 Haggis, Elliott, Foley, Whitelaw, Lewry, Mewburn, Riddell, Pearman,



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Dee
If you do a search at Ancestry.com for surname Unknown, you get 366,381
hits! Imagine if someone used the work unknown in another language, like
Sconosciuto in Italian. You could spend your whole life fruitlessly looking
for the Sconosciuto relatives!
Dee


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.auwrote:

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
 know?



 I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
 only.



 Many thanks

 Susan



 Researching; Pegrum, Aitchison, Rafferty,  Armstrong, Crawford, Haggis,
 Elliott, Foley, Whitelaw, Lewry, Mewburn, Riddell, Pearman,




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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Susan,



I don’t know what might be considered the correct way but my personal 
preference is to use (_) for an unknown name. I enter everything based 
on the way it reads in the narrative descendant report and I like to have the 
reader see immediately where a name is unknown. Sometimes I get unexpected help 
because their eye is drawn to the ‘hole’ in the report.



Whatever you decide to use, if anything, if you’re consistent, you can use a 
search and replace, should you ever decide on a different style of placeholder. 
This is the only unknown/ missing information that I identify with a 
placeholder.



Mary





From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:40 PM





What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t know?



I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name only.



Many thanks

Susan






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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Sherry,

I have to disagree with you.

Over the last 20 years I have sent out over 5000 letters to families,
friends and potential relatives asking for information and usually
including some sort of report.

A field that is blank rarely prompts' a reader to respond, whereas a field
with EITHER Missing or Unknown will trigger the reader to think Oh, I
have that info they don't have.

And the same for dates, If you have the date of birth is 1901, they
continue reading. If they read the date of birth is Abt. 1901, they think,
I know that EXACT date they don't have, and that thought process by the
reader will elicit more responses.

So in my database any unknown given name or surname is listed as unknown.
And every incomplete date is prefaced by either abt., aft., bef.,  bet.,
 or cir.
Which also works great with Legacy's date sorting 'logic' which is better
than most other software.

At least that is my experience.
But I recommend whatever the particular user feels best for them, is the
best way to do it.

Jay





On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 To add to Michele's comment

 If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
 the Search tab Missing Information and show underlines for missing
 information in Ancestor and Descendant books.

 Also, if you share FGR or other reports with other family members, if
 the field is blank it quickly catches their eye and they have a place
 to help update the information you're missing.

 If anything is entered in a field, it won't be found as Missing in
 the Missing Information search. Legacy is looking for an empty field.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Michele/Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
  Susan,
 
  I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for
 example,
  where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his
 wife
  is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.

 
  Michele
  Technical Support
  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
 
  From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
 
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People
 
  What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
  know?
 
  I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
  only.
 
  Many thanks
 
  Susan



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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread David Abernathy
I agree with Jay, I like to have something there to tell others that it is 
missing.



I use some of the following, this also gives me a list within the Index that I 
have unknown names:

Jane ? (Wife of Peter Jones)

Ann? (Mother of Peter Jones)

? Smith (Husband of Ann Lyons)

? Smith (Father of William Smith)



Yes this does not look so nice in any report, but like Jay say, it is an eye 
catcher and brings in information.



REMEMBER that there is NO right or wrong way, just what one prefers to do and 
WORKs for them.



Thanks,

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From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People



Sherry,



I have to disagree with you.



Over the last 20 years I have sent out over 5000 letters to families, friends 
and potential relatives asking for information and usually including some sort 
of report.



A field that is blank rarely prompts' a reader to respond, whereas a field 
with EITHER Missing or Unknown will trigger the reader to think Oh, I have 
that info they don't have.



And the same for dates, If you have the date of birth is 1901, they continue 
reading. If they read the date of birth is Abt. 1901, they think, I know that 
EXACT date they don't have, and that thought process by the reader will elicit 
more responses.



So in my database any unknown given name or surname is listed as unknown. And 
every incomplete date is prefaced by either abt., aft., bef.,  bet.,  or cir.

Which also works great with Legacy's date sorting 'logic' which is better than 
most other software.



At least that is my experience.

But I recommend whatever the particular user feels best for them, is the best 
way to do it.



Jay









On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

To add to Michele's comment

If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
the Search tab Missing Information and show underlines for missing
information in Ancestor and Descendant books.

Also, if you share FGR or other reports with other family members, if
the field is blank it quickly catches their eye and they have a place
to help update the information you're missing.

If anything is entered in a field, it won't be found as Missing in
the Missing Information search. Legacy is looking for an empty field.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Michele/Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 Susan,

 I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for example,
 where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his wife
 is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.


 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



 From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM

 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
 know?

 I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
 only.

 Many thanks

 Susan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Thanks David,

And I agree with you


REMEMBER that there is NO right or wrong way, just what one prefers to do
and WORKs for them.





On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:05 PM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 wrote:

 I agree with Jay, I like to have something there to tell others that it is
 missing.



 I use some of the following, this also gives me a list within the Index
 that I have unknown names:

 Jane ? (Wife of Peter Jones)

 Ann? (Mother of Peter Jones)

 ? Smith (Husband of Ann Lyons)

 ? Smith (Father of William Smith)



 Yes this does not look so nice in any report, but like Jay say, it is an
 eye catcher and brings in information.



 REMEMBER that there is NO right or wrong way, just what one prefers to do
 and WORKs for them.



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 *From:* Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:50 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People



 Sherry,



 I have to disagree with you.



 Over the last 20 years I have sent out over 5000 letters to families,
 friends and potential relatives asking for information and usually
 including some sort of report.



 A field that is blank rarely prompts' a reader to respond, whereas a
 field with EITHER Missing or Unknown will trigger the reader to think
 Oh, I have that info they don't have.



 And the same for dates, If you have the date of birth is 1901, they
 continue reading. If they read the date of birth is Abt. 1901, they think,
 I know that EXACT date they don't have, and that thought process by the
 reader will elicit more responses.



 So in my database any unknown given name or surname is listed as unknown.
 And every incomplete date is prefaced by either abt., aft., bef.,  bet.,
  or cir.

 Which also works great with Legacy's date sorting 'logic' which is better
 than most other software.



 At least that is my experience.

 But I recommend whatever the particular user feels best for them, is the
 best way to do it.



 Jay









 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 To add to Michele's comment

 If you leave any unknown information blank,you can take advantage of
 the Search tab Missing Information and show underlines for missing
 information in Ancestor and Descendant books.

 Also, if you share FGR or other reports with other family members, if
 the field is blank it quickly catches their eye and they have a place
 to help update the information you're missing.

 If anything is entered in a field, it won't be found as Missing in
 the Missing Information search. Legacy is looking for an empty field.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Michele/Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
  Susan,
 
  I simply leave the surname blank.  If I have a census record, for
 example,
  where John Doe and Jane Doe are a married couple, I put John Doe, his
 wife
  is simply Jane and then I put Jane Doe as an AKA.

 
  Michele
  Technical Support
  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
 
  From: Susan Jones [mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au]
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:40 AM
 
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People
 
  What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
  know?
 
  I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
  only.
 
  Many thanks
 
  Susan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread R G Strong-genes
and on another note to add to the confusion. I kept searching for a surname in 
my database that had been imported from someone else's gedcom file. That 
surname that was unfamiliar to me and I wanted more info! The surname was 
“UNK”! Until I realized that they had used this surname for all their Unknown 
people! Just another reason that if you don’t know what should be in the field 
then leave it blank as it can be passed on to other researchers.

From: Dee
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:54 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

If you do a search at Ancestry.com for surname Unknown, you get 366,381 hits! 
Imagine if someone used the work unknown in another language, like Sconosciuto 
in Italian. You could spend your whole life fruitlessly looking for the 
Sconosciuto relatives!

Dee




On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

  What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t know?



  I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name 
only.



  Many thanks

  Susan





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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Boyd Miller
This is my approach. In the absence of a name Legacy sometimes adds a
non-person called “Unknown”.  To distinguish from this, I usually put
“not known“ in lower case in the given name field.

· a second marriage but you don’t know who the first spouse was -
put “not known” (all lower case) as a given name

· people known to be siblings but don’t know either of the parents -
put surname (same as siblings) for father only, put mother as not
known or leave her blank

· mother and children but don’t know the father - put “not known” as
father’s given name (not surname) so as not to compromise the children’s
usual surname

· father and children but no mother – either leave mother blank or
put “not known” as her given name.

These people are not “unknown” – it’s just that at this time I do not
yet know their names.
I realise this hides some of the searches for missing information but
you can find these not known people and the parts of the family that
you already know from a Given Name sort of the Name List.
Boyd

If you have
On 25/02/2014 10:16 a.m., R G Strong-genes wrote:
 and on another note to add to the confusion. I kept searching for a
 surname in my database that had been imported from someone else's
 gedcom file. That surname that was unfamiliar to me and I wanted more
 info! The surname was “UNK”! Until I realized that they had used this
 surname for all their Unknown people! Just another reason that if you
 don’t know what should be in the field then leave it blank as it can
 be passed on to other researchers.
 *From:* Dee mailto:deema...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:54 AM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People
 If you do a search at Ancestry.com for surname Unknown, you get
 366,381 hits! Imagine if someone used the work unknown in another
 language, like Sconosciuto in Italian. You could spend your whole life
 fruitlessly looking for the Sconosciuto relatives!
 Dee


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.au
 mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you
 don’t know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s
 first name only.

 Many thanks

 Susan


 --
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 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-24 Thread Susan Jones
Thank you to all the marvellous people who have offered assistance in entering 
unknown names. I think that at this stage I will try David’s method.



Susan

Thanks David,



And I agree with you





REMEMBER that there is NO right or wrong way, just what one prefers to do and 
WORKs for them.



I agree with Jay, I like to have something there to tell others that it is 
missing.



I use some of the following, this also gives me a list within the Index that I 
have unknown names:

Jane ? (Wife of Peter Jones)

Ann? (Mother of Peter Jones)

? Smith (Husband of Ann Lyons)

? Smith (Father of William Smith)



Yes this does not look so nice in any report, but like Jay say, it is an eye 
catcher and brings in information.




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[LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Susan Jones
What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don't
know?



I have many where I have the father's full name and his wife's first name
only.



Many thanks

Susan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread rfalz...@yahoo.com
When I have that problem I just enter the last name as unknown.

I go back and change it if I'm ever able to find the proper surname.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Susan Jones
Thank you, and apologises to the group for not removing my researching names in 
previous message.



Susan



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When I have that problem I just enter the last name as unknown.

I go back and change it if I'm ever able to find the proper surname.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Virginia Dunham
Susan,
I enter husband's name followed by nee Unknown (without the quotes).
Ex: Robert Aimone and Geraldine Aimone nee Unknown.

née *adjective* \ˈnā\

—used after a married woman's name to identify the family name that she had
when she was born


Virginia


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.auwrote:

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t
 know?



 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name
 only.



 Many thanks

 Susan



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 Elliott, Foley, Whitelaw, Lewry, Mewburn, Riddell, Pearman,




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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Susan Jones
Thank you Virginia,  I like the idea of having the husband’s name there, to 
assist when searching.



Susan



From: Virginia Dunham [mailto:geistdn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 24 February 2014 5:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People



Susan,

I enter husband's name followed by nee Unknown (without the quotes).

Ex: Robert Aimone and Geraldine Aimone nee Unknown.




née


adjective \ˈnā\

—used after a married woman's name to identify the family name that she had 
when she was born



Virginia



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What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t know?



I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name only.



Many thanks

Susan






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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Boyd Miller
This is my approach to people whose names are not known.
In the absence of a name Legacy sometimes adds a non-person called
“Unknown”.  To distinguish from this, my choice is usually to put “not
known“ in the given name field.  You can find these not known people
from a Given Name sort of the Name List.
If you have
•a second marriage but you don’t know who the first spouse was - put
“not known” (all lower case) as a given name
•people known to be siblings but don’t know either of the parents -
put surname (same as siblings) for father only, put mother’s given name
as “not known”
•mother and children but don’t know the father - put “not known” as
father’s given name (not surname) so as not to compromise the children’s
surname
•father and children but no mother - put “not known” as a mother’s
given name.

These people are not “unknown” – it’s just that at this time I do not
yet know their names.

Boyd
On 24/02/2014 7:31 p.m., Susan Jones wrote:

 Thank you Virginia,  I like the idea of having the husband’s name
 there, to assist when searching.

 Susan

 *From:*Virginia Dunham [mailto:geistdn...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, 24 February 2014 5:20 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

 Susan,

 I enter husband's name followed by nee Unknown (without the quotes).

 Ex: Robert Aimone and Geraldine Aimone nee Unknown.


 née

 /adjective/ \ˈnā\

 —used after a married woman's name to identify the family name that
 she had when she was born

 Virginia

 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.au
 mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you
 don’t know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first
 name only.

 Many thanks

 Susan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread J.M. Jay Ingalls
Best to leave all unknown fields blank. For dates, a good guess based on
birth years of parents or children or spouse or marriage date will help
when doing merges.

Unknown wastes ink when printing and looks terrible to me.

Jay
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 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you
 don’t know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first
 name only.

 Many thanks

 Susan

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

2014-02-23 Thread Wendy Howard
If all I know is the person's first name, that is all I enter.  I don't
put 'unknown' or any variant of that in the surname field.

If I later find out more, I create an AKA with appropriate sources, and
then swap it for the current name.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Susan Jones said the following on 24/02/2014 6:39 p.m.:

 What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you
 don’t know?

 I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first
 name only.

 Many thanks

 Susan




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