Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
Melissa You need to unsubscribe yourself using the link at the bottom of all emails and copied her for your ease of finding: To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com And there was no need to shout at everyone else Jennie On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:04 AM MELISSA BURNS wrote: > PLEASE QUIT SENDING THESE NEWSLETTERS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HELP ME WITH > MY GENEALOGY ESPECIALLY TIPS ON HOW TO USE THE PROGRAM I'M REALLY > DISAPPOINTED! UNSUBSCRIBE ME AT ONCE!!! THIS IS THE 2ND REQUEST. > MELISSA ANN WOLLET BURNS > > > > > > > > On April 10, 2020 at 4:20 AM Jenny M Benson > wrote: > > > > > > On 08/04/2020 15:14, Jenny M Benson wrote: > > > Latest news! Having written the above I went back to carry on with > the > > > task I had been doing and the very next person to come up in the > Search > > > was another rogue! Again, she meets the 2nd two criteria but not the > > > first, and again she is Witness to a Marriage and therefore has a > Shared > > > Event. > > > > > > That should give the programmers a very clear picture and I will now > > > report this as a bug. > > > > I sent my file to Jairmie in Support and he reported back that there > > was. indeed, a bug to do with Shared Events and Event Dates. The > > solution is to search firstly for everyone with the required Event type > > (which in my case was England Census) and then to search the Search List > > with the 3 criteria I wanted. > > > > -- > > Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > > Wrexham, UK > > > > -- > > > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > > Archives at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
You need to unsubscribe yourself. No one else can do it for you. The instructions are at the bottom of the page. And, please stop screaming in all CAPS. Cheers, Jon (Sent from a mobile device) On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:04 PM MELISSA BURNS wrote: > PLEASE QUIT SENDING THESE NEWSLETTERS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HELP ME WITH > MY GENEALOGY ESPECIALLY TIPS ON HOW TO USE THE PROGRAM I'M REALLY > DISAPPOINTED! UNSUBSCRIBE ME AT ONCE!!! THIS IS THE 2ND REQUEST. > MELISSA ANN WOLLET BURNS > > > > > > > > On April 10, 2020 at 4:20 AM Jenny M Benson > wrote: > > > > > > On 08/04/2020 15:14, Jenny M Benson wrote: > > > Latest news! Having written the above I went back to carry on with > the > > > task I had been doing and the very next person to come up in the > Search > > > was another rogue! Again, she meets the 2nd two criteria but not the > > > first, and again she is Witness to a Marriage and therefore has a > Shared > > > Event. > > > > > > That should give the programmers a very clear picture and I will now > > > report this as a bug. > > > > I sent my file to Jairmie in Support and he reported back that there > > was. indeed, a bug to do with Shared Events and Event Dates. The > > solution is to search firstly for everyone with the required Event type > > (which in my case was England Census) and then to search the Search List > > with the 3 criteria I wanted. > > > > -- > > Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > > Wrexham, UK > > > > -- > > > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > > Archives at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
PLEASE QUIT SENDING THESE NEWSLETTERS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HELP ME WITH MY GENEALOGY ESPECIALLY TIPS ON HOW TO USE THE PROGRAM I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED! UNSUBSCRIBE ME AT ONCE!!! THIS IS THE 2ND REQUEST. MELISSA ANN WOLLET BURNS > On April 10, 2020 at 4:20 AM Jenny M Benson wrote: > > > On 08/04/2020 15:14, Jenny M Benson wrote: > > Latest news! Having written the above I went back to carry on with the > > task I had been doing and the very next person to come up in the Search > > was another rogue! Again, she meets the 2nd two criteria but not the > > first, and again she is Witness to a Marriage and therefore has a Shared > > Event. > > > > That should give the programmers a very clear picture and I will now > > report this as a bug. > > I sent my file to Jairmie in Support and he reported back that there > was. indeed, a bug to do with Shared Events and Event Dates. The > solution is to search firstly for everyone with the required Event type > (which in my case was England Census) and then to search the Search List > with the 3 criteria I wanted. > > -- > Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > Wrexham, UK > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
On 08/04/2020 15:14, Jenny M Benson wrote: Latest news! Having written the above I went back to carry on with the task I had been doing and the very next person to come up in the Search was another rogue! Again, she meets the 2nd two criteria but not the first, and again she is Witness to a Marriage and therefore has a Shared Event. That should give the programmers a very clear picture and I will now report this as a bug. I sent my file to Jairmie in Support and he reported back that there was. indeed, a bug to do with Shared Events and Event Dates. The solution is to search firstly for everyone with the required Event type (which in my case was England Census) and then to search the Search List with the 3 criteria I wanted. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
On 08/04/2020 15:06, Jenny M Benson wrote: On 08/04/2020 10:40, Chris Hill wrote: Silly question, did you use *AND* or *OR* in your original query? Original query was Event date = 06 June 1841 AND Relationship = Related AND Hashtag not = LC 41. The rogue lady meets the 2nd two criteria, but not the first. I copied my family file to a new one so I could try various variables and discovered that it is definitely the fact that she was a Marriage Witness (Shared Event) which is causing the problem. ONLY when I unlink her from the Share does she not appear in the Search List. Even if I delete the 1841 Census Event (which has that date) and it's Source from the Marriage couple she still appears in the Search List if she Shares their Marriage. There's obviously a bug somewhere, but how it comes about I can't imagine! Latest news! Having written the above I went back to carry on with the task I had been doing and the very next person to come up in the Search was another rogue! Again, she meets the 2nd two criteria but not the first, and again she is Witness to a Marriage and therefore has a Shared Event. That should give the programmers a very clear picture and I will now report this as a bug. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
On 08/04/2020 10:40, Chris Hill wrote: Silly question, did you use *AND* or *OR* in your original query? Original query was Event date = 06 June 1841 AND Relationship = Related AND Hashtag not = LC 41. The rogue lady meets the 2nd two criteria, but not the first. I copied my family file to a new one so I could try various variables and discovered that it is definitely the fact that she was a Marriage Witness (Shared Event) which is causing the problem. ONLY when I unlink her from the Share does she not appear in the Search List. Even if I delete the 1841 Census Event (which has that date) and it's Source from the Marriage couple she still appears in the Search List if she Shares their Marriage. There's obviously a bug somewhere, but how it comes about I can't imagine! -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
Hi Jenny Just done some tests and Witnesses seem to be weird. But, if I search for an Individual with a Witnesses event, shared from a Marriage record (MRIN), I do not find any of them, even though they do appear in their details. To find them I need to search for the Event Role equal to Witnesses and Role equal to Witness. If I search for a Marriage with a Witnesses event I can get a list of people in the marriage but I cannot reduce that to only shared events. So I created a search for an Individual with an Event Role of Witnesses / Witness AND an extra Event Date of 6/6/1841. That only got a few records, all of which have the 1841 census record and have a Witnesses event. Silly question, did you use AND or OR in your original query? Regards Chris -- Original Message -- From: "Jenny M Benson" To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Sent: 07/04/2020 21:21:50 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search On 07/04/2020 17:41, Chris Hill wrote: My guess is that there is a 1841 census record (6 Jun 1841) on the person whose marriage she was a witness to. I think that, logically, a shared event is always tied back to the original event person rather than the person it is shared to. Potentially a programming error, but I suspect more likely a case 'we did not think about it'. If that is the case it would be a reason to raise it as in issue. That sounded like a very sound idea and I thought you might have cracked it, but I changed the 1841 Census date on both of the wedding couple and ran the Search again and STILL the wrong person (their witness) appeared in the Search List. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/-- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
Hi Jenny Did the other witness already have a 1841 census event? Regards Chris >From my Motorola G6+ On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, 21:22 Jenny M Benson, wrote: > On 07/04/2020 17:41, Chris Hill wrote: > > > > My guess is that there is a 1841 census record (6 Jun 1841) on the > > person whose marriage she was a witness to. I think that, logically, a > > shared event is always tied back to the original event person rather > > than the person it is shared to. > > > > Potentially a programming error, but I suspect more likely a case > > 'we did not think about it'. If that is the case it would be a reason to > > raise it as in issue. > > That sounded like a very sound idea and I thought you might have cracked > it, but I changed the 1841 Census date on both of the wedding couple and > ran the Search again and STILL the wrong person (their witness) appeared > in the Search List. > > -- > Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > Wrexham, UK > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
On 07/04/2020 17:41, Chris Hill wrote: My guess is that there is a 1841 census record (6 Jun 1841) on the person whose marriage she was a witness to. I think that, logically, a shared event is always tied back to the original event person rather than the person it is shared to. Potentially a programming error, but I suspect more likely a case 'we did not think about it'. If that is the case it would be a reason to raise it as in issue. That sounded like a very sound idea and I thought you might have cracked it, but I changed the 1841 Census date on both of the wedding couple and ran the Search again and STILL the wrong person (their witness) appeared in the Search List. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search
Hi Jenny My guess is that there is a 1841 census record (6 Jun 1841) on the person whose marriage she was a witness to. I think that, logically, a shared event is always tied back to the original event person rather than the person it is shared to. Potentially a programming error, but I suspect more likely a case 'we did not think about it'. If that is the case it would be a reason to raise it as in issue. Regards Chris -- Original Message -- From: "Jenny M Benson" To: "Legacy User Group" Sent: 07/04/2020 17:22:54 Subject: [LegacyUG] Faulty Search I have set up a Search with 3 elements - individuals with an Event date of 06 June 1841, related to me and not marked with a particular Hashtag. I am working through the Search list, adding the people to a certain website and setting the relevant Hashtag for each person as I do so. I have been working on this for some time and it has worked perfectly ... until now. The first person on the Search List now is someone who IS related to me and DOES not have any Hashtags, but she only has two Events which are an Alt. Baptism Event with a date of 05 October 1817 and a Shared Event (shared from a couple's marriage to which she was a Witness) with a date of 25 June 1846. I do not understand why this person keeps showing up in the Search List. I have done Check & Repair and I have run the Search several times, to no avail. If I change the date in the Search to, say, 01 June 1841, no one is selected, which is the expected result. I previously ran a very similar search with a different date and different hashtag and that worked perfectly. It is just this one person who appears to have a "phantom event" with the 06 June 1841 date. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Faulty Search
I have set up a Search with 3 elements - individuals with an Event date of 06 June 1841, related to me and not marked with a particular Hashtag. I am working through the Search list, adding the people to a certain website and setting the relevant Hashtag for each person as I do so. I have been working on this for some time and it has worked perfectly ... until now. The first person on the Search List now is someone who IS related to me and DOES not have any Hashtags, but she only has two Events which are an Alt. Baptism Event with a date of 05 October 1817 and a Shared Event (shared from a couple's marriage to which she was a Witness) with a date of 25 June 1846. I do not understand why this person keeps showing up in the Search List. I have done Check & Repair and I have run the Search several times, to no avail. If I change the date in the Search to, say, 01 June 1841, no one is selected, which is the expected result. I previously ran a very similar search with a different date and different hashtag and that worked perfectly. It is just this one person who appears to have a "phantom event" with the 06 June 1841 date. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
