subject:"\[LegacyUG\] Fw\: Concerns about MyHeritage"

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-07 Thread Cathy Pinner


This is more misinformation.

MyHeritage is not reading your file to send you Hints.

Legacy is sending search criteria to MyHeritage as it does to 
FamilySearch or FindMyPast or Genealogy Bank - and as it will for any 
site that you have a search for under Internet Searches.


Yes MyHeritage hints are on by default but they are not being given 
access to your file.


Cathy

Roberta Montpetit <mailto:robertamontpe...@gmail.com>
Monday, 7 August 2017 3:33 AM
"When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to 
offer hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off."


That is exactly the point that several people have made!


GORDON M TAYLOR <mailto:gm...@msn.com>
Monday, 7 August 2017 3:05 AM
When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to 
offer hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off.


Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>


*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of Carrie Pillow 

*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:25:16 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

How can they ?

Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!

Carrie

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *GORDON 
M TAYLOR

*Sent:* 06 August 2017 15:44
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Carrie Pillow <mailto:elkerlo...@outlook.com>
Monday, 7 August 2017 12:25 AM

How can they ?

Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!

Carrie

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *GORDON 
M TAYLOR

*Sent:* 06 August 2017 15:44
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-07 Thread Cindy Curry via LegacyUserGroup

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How do I turn off My Heritage hints on everyone?Cindy

  From: Roberta Montpetit 
 To: Legacy User Group  
 Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

"When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to offer 
hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off."
That is exactly the point that several people have made!
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:05 PM, GORDON M TAYLOR  wrote:

When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to offer 
hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off.

Get Outlook for Android
From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Carrie Pillow 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:25:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage How can they ? Your data 
is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it! Carrie From: 
LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup- boun...@legacyusers.com]On Behalf Of 
GORDON M TAYLOR
Sent: 06 August 2017 15:44
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage MH can see your file now 
in LFT 9. gmtFrom: LegacyUserGroup  
on behalf of Chris Hill 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage  One of the concerns that 
I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people. 

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup- boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional. 
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family 
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
> a source is someon

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread F B

GORDON I use MH for quite a while ever since they or Geoff  show us a webinar 
from them an I under there will be another soon. As I use it I found many 
people make there trees private and you can not see . I was just on it a short 
time and My DNA on the site  of lady that share Dna  with me but her 
information is private. So I do not see any way MH could interfere with any LFT 
now even if they tried. Fred

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: GORDON M TAYLOR<mailto:gm...@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage


MH can see your file now in LFT 9.



gmt

From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Chris Hill 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people.

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think
> a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions,
> you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source
> yourself to check.
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents
> (primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete
> Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's
> tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily,
> especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There
> are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.
>
> MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
> information that you allow them.
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of johnbernac.

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Kris

During my short experiment with v.9, I found hints for my daughter, who 
is not dead yet.  Also my son and, in fact, pretty much all the living 
people in my LFT database -- but her hints are the only ones I checked. 
At MyHeritage, one was for a public record that can be found on Rootsweb 
and various free sites, the others, about a dozen, were the information 
from my file about her, as well as other people who had her in their 
trees also.  I did contact MyHeritage to ask about it.


First, the member of the support team told me "I have removed the 
information by now."  From the discussions here, I thought there was 
nothing to remove.


Further:  "Please note that the reason why you see the information about 
living people is, that you yourself have them in your tree as well. 
Therefore those specific living people don't need to be hidden from you, 
as you have them in your tree yourself. You received this personalized 
Smart Match page with information."


And:  "Please also note, Family sites at MyHeritage are automatically 
protected with privacy settings that prevent *guests (non-members)* from 
viewing sensitive information about living family members in family 
trees, such as first names and email addresses."  [Emphasis mine.]


So if you're a member, you *can* access that information by default at 
MyHeritage?  I'm using LFT, but am not, and never have been a member of 
MyHeritage.  And yet, if I access the "Smart Matches" via LFT, I see 
other trees with my daughter's information.  But if I use that link in 
my browser, the only thing that comes up is the public record.  This is 
a far cry from only simplifying the search process with pre-filled 
search terms.


The next logical step would have been to subscribe to MyHeritage to see 
what would happen then.  But I decided not to do that long ago as they 
play hide-the-ball with their subscription information -- all roads lead 
to family trees.  Actually, hints on dead people lead to other family 
trees as well.  Where are all these records they're supposed to have?  I 
was told I wasn't using the hints properly.  Okay.


In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Oz is a guest at the surprise birthday 
party for Buffy which, of course, is disrupted by vampires and other 
oddnesses.  Willow is telling him that Buffy's the slayer, etc., and she 
understands it's a lot for him to take in.  Oz -- love Oz -- just says, 
"Actually, it explains a lot." -- i.e., the weird things that are always 
happening in Sunnydale.


There's been a lot of oddnesses with the release of v.9.  The MyHeritage 
announcement, actually, explains a lot.


On 8/6/2017 11:25 AM, Brian Kelly wrote:

No it cannot see your file!

What it gets are queries based on information in your file, just like 
the information you would have to submit on an individual to use the 
search feature at MH if you visit the site. What the hints in Legacy 9.0 
does is automate the submission of those queries and keeping track of 
the responses from MyHeritage or any of the other sites which you can 
use for Hints.


Brian Kelly

On 06-Aug-17 10:43 AM, GORDON M TAYLOR wrote:

MH can see your file now in LFT 9.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Leon Chapman

I think there is a mis-understanding about Legacy & MyHeritage Hints.
First of all, MyHeritage does not use your whole database to find hints -
that would take forever with a large database.

Here is what is published by MyHeritage on matches and hints:

***
MyHeritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree
MyHeritage uses Smart Matching™ and Record Matching technologies to match
between family trees and historical records on MyHeritage and Legacy Family
Tree trees.

What is Smart Matching™?
Smart Matching™ compares your family tree to all family trees on
MyHeritage, to look for matches. If matches are found, you are notified and
you can view the matches, confirm or reject them. This feature can help you
make new discoveries in your genealogy research, and also connect you to
distant family members who are researching the same individuals as you are.

What is Record Matching?
Record Matching automatically finds matching historical records for your
family tree, from our growing collection of billions of records. It can
save you time with your research and allow you to make fascinating
discoveries through birth documents, census records, newspaper articles and
more.

How does it work?
When Smart Matching™ and Record Matching are enabled within Legacy Family
Tree, T*information from small parts of your family tree is periodically
passed*, 'behind the scenes' and without you having to do anything, to a
matching service on the MyHeritage website. This information includes
names, dates and places associated with individuals and their close
relatives. MyHeritage uses this data to find extremely accurate Smart
Matches™ and Record Matches for the relevant individuals. *This information
is not collected by MyHeritage and is deleted automatically after matches
are calculated and displayed to you. Smart Matches™ are not bi-directional:
Legacy Family Tree users receive them with trees of MyHeritage users, but
MyHeritage users do not receive them with trees of Legacy Family Tree
users.*

Note that some of the matches can be viewed and confirmed for free, while
others require a MyHeritage data subscription.

*The information passed to MyHeritage is never used for any other purpose
and will never be displayed, sold, licensed or used in any manner
whatsoever.*

If you have any question or concerns, feel free to contact MyHeritage via
the Help Center <http://helpcenter.myheritage.com>.

***

I have highlighted in bold the critical information you need to know.

Chap

___
Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com
-

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Roberta Montpetit <
robertamontpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to
> offer hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off."
>
> That is exactly the point that several people have made!
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:05 PM, GORDON M TAYLOR  wrote:
>
>> When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to
>> offer hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
>> behalf of Carrie Pillow 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:25:16 AM
>> *To:* Legacy User Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>>
>>
>> How can they ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Carrie
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *GORDON M TAYLOR
>> *Sent:* 06 August 2017 15:44
>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>>
>>
>>
>> MH can see your file now in LFT 9.
>>
>>
>>
>> gmt
>> --
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
>> behalf of Chris Hill 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
>> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>>
>>
>>
>> One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear
>> that
>> MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
>> through Legacy.
>>
>> To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
>> program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
>> totally separately.
>>
>> If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
>> permission to do it.
>>
>> Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
>> private information, includi

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Roberta Montpetit

"When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to offer
hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off."

That is exactly the point that several people have made!

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:05 PM, GORDON M TAYLOR  wrote:

> When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to offer
> hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Carrie Pillow 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:25:16 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
> How can they ?
>
>
>
> Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!
>
>
>
> Carrie
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *GORDON M TAYLOR
> *Sent:* 06 August 2017 15:44
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
>
> MH can see your file now in LFT 9.
>
>
>
> gmt
> --
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Chris Hill 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
>
> One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
> MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
> through Legacy.
>
> To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
> program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
> totally separately.
>
> If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
> permission to do it.
>
> Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
> private information, including information on living people.
>
> That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
> your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against
> them
> if they did it.
>
> If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
> tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they
> are
> again breaking our laws.
>
>  So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
> what they are planning and doing.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] On
> Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
> Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Anne,
> It still applies.
>
> Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
> system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
> with the Ancestry tree.
> Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires
> the
> development of the mechanism to do it.
> It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
> On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
> apparently. I don't have one.
>
> Cathy
>
> > Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au >
> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> > 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family
> > Tree (in the Help
> > file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto
> > their website.
> > With thanks
> > Anne Wiltshire
> > Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> > *From:* CE WOOD
> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> > *To:* Legacy User Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
> >
> > Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know
> > only that.
> >
> > Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those
> > options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on
> > your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people
> > don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
> >
> > You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone
> > searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> > someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
> >
> > You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of
> > "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on
> > your site.
> >
> > On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, pe

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread GORDON M TAYLOR

When you sign into v9 MH reads your file and compares with theirs to offer 
hunts.  The feature is automatic unless you turn it off.

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Carrie Pillow 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:25:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

How can they ?

Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of GORDON M TAYLOR
Sent: 06 August 2017 15:44
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

MH can see your file now in LFT 9.

gmt

From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Chris Hill 
mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people.

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think
> a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions,
> you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source
> yourself to check.
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents
> (primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete
> Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's
> tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily,
> especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There
> are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.
>
> MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
> information that you allow them.
&g

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread cf6e2e9d

I posted the following on the merger announcement at Millennia's website.


You [Geoff] said that in order for Legacy to support Unicode it would have
to be rewritten from scratch. Sherry has posted on the Legacy Support
list-server that VB6 doesn't support Unicode so Legacy's software
programmers would need to learn a new language and rewrite it from scratch.
Are you aware that there are at least two companies (CyberActiveX and
Hexagora) that have products that integrate into existing VB6 programs to
provide Unicode support so that the underlying software doesn't have to be
rewritten? These products are used by many international companies (IBM,
Cisco, Toshiba, etc.) for this very purpose.


I'm not saying that it would be a trivial matter to integrate this third
party software but certainly they would not have to rewrite it from scratch.


I'm a long time customer of Millennia and I'm generally satisfied with
Legacy.  However, I'm very displeased about being forced to enter
inaccurate information into my database.


Brian

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> I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see
> how it can last in its current form. First, technology and users
> expectations rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that
> Legacy is built on *outdated technology* which is why it cannot handle
> Unicode. Secondly, I cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything
> online would keep Legacy which cannot cater for all their
> worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does not gel.
>
> I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and
> merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to
> practices or staffing never bear out.
>
> John
>
> *From:* Denise Moss-Fritch 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:48 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
> If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree
> would be visible.
>
>
>
> If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree)
> than no one will be able to see your data.
>
>
>
> If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.
>
>
>
> All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I
> have a private tree there too.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Anne Wiltshire
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
>
> Hello all
>
>
>
> Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file)
> still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their
> website.
>
>
>
> With thanks
>
>
>
> Anne Wiltshire
>
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* CE WOOD
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
>
> *To:* Legacy User Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
>
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only
> that.
>
>
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *ONLY* if you set those options on
> your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website,
> you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having
> people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
>
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *cannot be found *if someone
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
>
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members",
> and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.
>
>
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a
> source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can
> never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to
> check.
>
>
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Brian Kelly


No it cannot see your file!

What it gets are queries based on information in your file, just like 
the information you would have to submit on an individual to use the 
search feature at MH if you visit the site. What the hints in Legacy 9.0 
does is automate the submission of those queries and keeping track of 
the responses from MyHeritage or any of the other sites which you can 
use for Hints.


Brian Kelly

On 06-Aug-17 10:43 AM, GORDON M TAYLOR wrote:

MH can see your file now in LFT 9.

gmt


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Carrie Pillow

How can they ?

Your data is on your computer, it is only seen if you share it!

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of GORDON M TAYLOR
Sent: 06 August 2017 15:44
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

MH can see your file now in LFT 9.

gmt

From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Chris Hill 
mailto:chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people.

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think
> a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions,
> you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source
> yourself to check.
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents
> (primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete
> Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's
> tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily,
> especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There
> are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.
>
> MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
> information that you allow them.
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup 
> mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
>  on
> behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au<mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au> 
> mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
> *To:* Leg

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread GORDON M TAYLOR

MH can see your file now in LFT 9.

gmt

From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Chris Hill 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:02:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people.

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think
> a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions,
> you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source
> yourself to check.
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents
> (primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete
> Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's
> tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily,
> especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There
> are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.
>
> MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
> information that you allow them.
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don't trust it for
> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I
> don't remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find
> out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it was
> buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website and
> search on Google to find out how to do it.
>
> I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I
> t

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Jenny M Benson


On 06-Aug-17 08:40 AM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

I really like Legacy except for its lack of Unicode.


Why all this griping about what Legacy doesn't do?

I just bought a new breadmaker.  I wanted one which would make different 
sized loaves so I bought one which makes 3 sizes of loaf.  I didn't buy 
one which only makes one size and then keep complaining that it doesn't 
do other sizes.


Reminds me of the people who buy a Mac and then complain they can't run 
particular programs on it because they're only built for Windows.


--
Jenny M Benson
http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Chris Hill

One of the concerns that I am seeing in this set of messages is a fear that
MyHeritage will be able to extract a copy of your tree from your local PC
through Legacy.

To do that, they will need to get Millennia to make changes to the Legacy
program, which I doubt that they will do so long as they are operating
totally separately.

If they did manage to make that change they would also need your explicit
permission to do it.

Doing it without permission, which could be done, is the theft of your
private information, including information on living people. 

That would be illegal in the EU, GB and, I assume, USA, and I am sure that
your USA based users are quite capable of raising a class issue against them
if they did it.

If, as it has been suggested, MyHeritage have ignored a user setting that a
tree is Private and converted it to Public tree with no permission, they are
again breaking our laws.

 So, there should not be an issue here, but we do need to keep an eye on
what they are planning and doing.

Regards

Chris

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 06 August 2017 03:31
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires the
development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional. 
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

> Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au> Sunday, 6 August 2017 
> 10:21 AM Hello all Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family 
> Tree (in the Help
> file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
> their website.
> With thanks
> Anne Wiltshire
> Runaway Bay QLD Australia
> *From:* CE WOOD
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
> only that.
>
> Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
> options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
> your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
> don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.
>
> You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
> searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
> someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.
>
> You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
> "members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
> your site.
>
> On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
> a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, 
> you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source 
> yourself to check.
>
> My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents 
> (primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete 
> Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's 
> tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily, 
> especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There 
> are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.
>
> MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
> information that you allow them.
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
> behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>
> I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don't trust it for 
> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I 
> don't remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find 
> out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it was 
> buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website and 
> search on Google to find out how to do it.
>
> I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
> thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on 
> their website.
>
> You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be 
> on guard. Their technology/program seems to have &qu

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread johnbernacki1

I really like Legacy except for its lack of Unicode. I fear its demise due to 
its outdated technology. My ideal would be for Legacy to be rewritten on new 
technology and kept as it is except for addition of Unicode. That would make it 
as close as possible to perfect. I hope that is what happens, preferably sooner 
than later.

I am worried that while being rewritten with MH involvement, it will be changed 
from standalone, or some functions will only be available by subscription. 
Also, its interface may become as cluttered, ugly and cumbersome as other 
genealogy programs. 

For now, all we can do is wait and see.

John


From: Paul Gray 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 5:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

John,

 

I cautiously optimistic that My Heritage will maintain Legacy as a standalone 
program, with syncing to an online tree fully optional. If you look at the 
competition who have recently introduced or upgraded online tree syncing (to 
Ancestry), both Roots Magic and Family Tree Maker still run as independent 
desktop programs. Syncing, or even having an Ancestry account, is optional. One 
would expect Legacy/My Heritage to offer the same in order to compete. While a 
substantial number of people want online trees synced to their desktop tree, 
there are many of us who still want local trees only. I really don’t think they 
will abandon us and risk us going to the competition (at least I hope so).

 

In addition, I think this at least gives us hope that Legacy will be rewritten 
on to a modern technical platform. It was clear that Millenia alone was not 
going to do the rewrite. Although I don’t have any inside knowledge, I suspect 
that the substantial investment required for the rewrite could not be recovered 
in future sales given the current customer base. With My Heritage, there are 
more resources available, and hopefully they can expand their customer base. 
They haven’t committed to a rewrite, but If Legacy 10 sells well, and a they 
have good subscription sales for the MH site, I hope Legacy 11 will be new 
technology.

 

Time will tell, and for now it’s business as usual.

 

Paul

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: August 5, 2017 9:22 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see how 
it can last in its current form. First, technology and users expectations 
rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that Legacy is built 
on outdated technology which is why it cannot handle Unicode. Secondly, I 
cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything online would keep Legacy which 
cannot cater for all their worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does 
not gel.

I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and 
merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to practices 
or staffing never bear out. 

John

 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-06 Thread Paul Gray

John,

I cautiously optimistic that My Heritage will maintain Legacy as a standalone 
program, with syncing to an online tree fully optional. If you look at the 
competition who have recently introduced or upgraded online tree syncing (to 
Ancestry), both Roots Magic and Family Tree Maker still run as independent 
desktop programs. Syncing, or even having an Ancestry account, is optional. One 
would expect Legacy/My Heritage to offer the same in order to compete. While a 
substantial number of people want online trees synced to their desktop tree, 
there are many of us who still want local trees only. I really don’t think they 
will abandon us and risk us going to the competition (at least I hope so).

In addition, I think this at least gives us hope that Legacy will be rewritten 
on to a modern technical platform. It was clear that Millenia alone was not 
going to do the rewrite. Although I don’t have any inside knowledge, I suspect 
that the substantial investment required for the rewrite could not be recovered 
in future sales given the current customer base. With My Heritage, there are 
more resources available, and hopefully they can expand their customer base. 
They haven’t committed to a rewrite, but If Legacy 10 sells well, and a they 
have good subscription sales for the MH site, I hope Legacy 11 will be new 
technology.

Time will tell, and for now it’s business as usual.

Paul


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: August 5, 2017 9:22 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see how 
it can last in its current form. First, technology and users expectations 
rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that Legacy is built 
on outdated technology which is why it cannot handle Unicode. Secondly, I 
cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything online would keep Legacy which 
cannot cater for all their worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does 
not gel.
I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and 
merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to practices 
or staffing never bear out.
John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Cathy Pinner


John,

Do note that MH had already found it had to provide a desktop program - 
it has its Family Tree Builder program.

The genealogy community keeps wanting more and "both/and".

Cathy


johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:22 AM

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot 
see how it can last in its current form. First, technology and users 
expectations rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is 
that Legacy is built on _outdated technology_ which is why it cannot 
handle Unicode. Secondly, I cannot see why MyHeritage, which does 
everything online would keep Legacy which cannot cater for all their 
worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does not gel.


I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures 
and merges in private and public sectors.Reassurances about changes to 
practices or staffing never bear out.


John

*From:* Denise Moss-Fritch <mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:48 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you 
tree would be visible.


If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my 
tree) than no one will be able to see your data.


If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, 
as I have a private tree there too.


Denise

*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anne 
Wiltshire

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage


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Denise Moss-Fritch <mailto:d.mossfri...@comcast.net>
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:48 AM

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you 
tree would be visible.


If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my 
tree) than no one will be able to see your data.


If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, 
as I have a private tree there too.


Denise

*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anne 
Wiltshire

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au>
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help 
file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
their website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
only that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
"members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, 
you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source 
yourself to check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents 
(primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete 
Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's 
tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily, 
especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There 
are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf o

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread johnbernacki1

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see how 
it can last in its current form. First, technology and users expectations 
rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that Legacy is built 
on outdated technology which is why it cannot handle Unicode. Secondly, I 
cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything online would keep Legacy which 
cannot cater for all their worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does 
not gel.

I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and 
merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to practices 
or staffing never bear out. 

John


From: Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree 
would be visible.

 

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree) than 
no one will be able to see your data.

 

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

 

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I have 
a private tree there too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Hello all

 

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

 

With thanks

 

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

 

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.

 

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.

 

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.

 

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

 

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.

 

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.

 

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.

 

 

CE 

 




From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage see

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Anne Wiltshire

Thanks Cathy.

Anne

-Original Message- 
From: Cathy Pinner

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:31 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires
the development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy

Anne Wiltshire <mailto:smugg...@iinet.net.au>
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) 
still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their 
website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only 
that.

Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those options 
on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your 
website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't 
mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.

You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", 
and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a 
source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can 
never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to 
check.

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete Peerage_, 
_Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, 
with new documents being discovered almost daily, especially in England, 
errors have been found in many of those. There are several scholarly 
websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.

CE

*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. 
From memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to 
find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their 
website.

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
reset everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact 
them or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed 
to be an engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
pay as much possible to search for any.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Anne Wiltshire

thank you Denise

Anne

From: Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree 
would be visible.

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree) than 
no one will be able to see your data.

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I have 
a private tree there too.

Denise

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Hello all

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

With thanks

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.

CE 

From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree
would be visible.

 

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree)
than no one will be able to see your data.

 

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

 

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I
have a private tree there too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Hello all

 

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file)
still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their
website.

 

With thanks

 

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

 

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only
that.

 

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you
must set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people
find and/or view some of their trees.

 

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches.
You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't
find your info by searching, they cannot view it.

 

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members",
and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

 

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a
source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can
never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to
check.

 

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new
documents being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have
been found in many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted
solely to the corrections in those.

 

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
information that you allow them.

 

 

CE 

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > on behalf of
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au> >
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com>

Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don't trust it for
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don't
remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to
enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From
memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to find out
how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought
I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on
guard. Their technology/program seems to have "trip wires" everywhere to
reset everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them
or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage,
but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to
be an engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy
users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more
features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as
users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you
pay as much possible to search for any.

 

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Cathy Pinner


Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree 
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability 
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires 
the development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional. 
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree 
apparently. I don't have one.


Cathy


Anne Wiltshire 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help 
file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
their website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
only that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
"members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, 
you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source 
yourself to check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents 
(primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete 
Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's 
tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily, 
especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There 
are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I 
don’t remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find 
out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it was 
buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website and 
search on Google to find out how to do it.


I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on 
their website.


You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be 
on guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” 
everywhere to reset everything to defaults that suit them.


Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To 
contact them or see their website, often requires paying the premium 
subscription.


On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using 
MyHeritage, but his information was full of errors and false 
presumptions. He claimed to be an engineer!


I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from 
Legacy users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more 
and more features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- 
as soon as users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will 
be attached.


MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making 
you pay as much possible to search for any.


John


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[LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

2017-08-05 Thread Anne Wiltshire

Hello all

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

With thanks

Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia

From: CE WOOD 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.



Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.



You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.



You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.




On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.



My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.



MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.






CE 






From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.



John




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