Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
I put the various date sources in my events list and source it there. That way all the dates show on the timeline until I get a concrete date, then I put the correct date on the date line (I use the best of the vague dates until then on the date line) and put all the other various date references in the date notes to give me an idea how many places had the wrong date that can be corrected. Hope this helps. Mary Morris From: Terri Brown ridge...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I have the same philosphy as Jenny - it depends. I may use some census information supported by a child's birth record to determine an approximate birth date and place. Then I may eventually find an index entry for that peron's birth record, so I'll add that to the sources. Once I obtain a copy of the actual birth record, I will delete all the other (secondary and lesser) sources in favor of the primary source of birth record. I may keep the index as a source but usually add the index information to the citation comments. If no birth record is available, I choose the best of the secondary sources. I try not to have an overwhelming number of sources for any one fact/event. I feel that no more than 4 or 5 secondary or lesser sources are needed for most situations. More than that is TMI for most people (including me!). I use Clooz to keep track of all of the records I find on each individual. So, if someone wants to know the steps I took to find the birth record, it's easy enough to show them. Plus I'm making better use of Notes, General Notes and Research Notes. Residence tends to be an exeception to the 4 or 5 sources guidline when someone lived in a particlur place for a long period of time. I will lump all of the city directories under one source citation, though. There is no sense in having 20 city directory entries for one residence. Terri From: julia m aga...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
How interesting, Scott! Michele . From: Scott Hall [mailto:seh0...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: *** Name CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1) OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3) PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL RCA-HMR: Donald HALL SSDI-RW: Donald HALL Birth CEM-MoCC: 1913 CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913 PK-EGH: White City, NY Death CEM-MoCC: 1976 OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976 PK-EGH: Rochester, NY SSDI-RW: Jun 1976 Burial CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY SSN SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675 Notes (1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7]. (2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8]. (3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38]. *** You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places -- Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries (OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal knowledge of my father (PK-EGH). Scott On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
I'd like to interject here You might not be planning at the moment to publish, but you do need to think about the future use of your Family File. I lead a Legacy User Group and have spent the past three months teaching the group how to fix something just like this. The group member who volunteered her file had just put all her source information and data that should be in events into the Notes field because it was quick and easy and she was on a roll in a research session. And it never got cleaned up. She's a retired teacher, very intelligent and very computer literate, teaching computer classes herself. She just wasn't real focused on correct data entry at the time she got the data and now is going to be spending a lot of time setting things right. I've spent the time going through the notes of just *one* individual (and we haven't even finished that one person!), detailing how the sources should be entered as sources and how the events should be entered as events and how the sources can be also considered events' and events can also be sources. She realizes she has a major task ahead of her to clean up her file so it's in a presentable format at the time she needs to pass it on to another family member to continue with the research. In this process, we found a lot of duplication in various areas We talked about creating sources, merging duplicate sources, correctly entering locations, merging locations, merging events, creating To-Do items, etc. It's been an excellent teaching experience for all! Several members in the group who had also just been dumping everything into notes were encouraged to clean up their files and have spent hours fixing things when they could have done it the right way the first time and now be working on the brick walls instead of doing clean-up! So think about what you're going to do with the file and data in the long run and do it right from the start so you don't waste time redoing it all later! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
I will say this, the one benefit of having to clean up your file is you will find a lot of errors you didn't even know were there. That is what I found when I cleaned up all my stuff after switching from FTM to Legacy about 8 years ago. Michele -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I'd like to interject here You might not be planning at the moment to publish, but you do need to think about the future use of your Family File. I lead a Legacy User Group and have spent the past three months teaching the group how to fix something just like this. The group member who volunteered her file had just put all her source information and data that should be in events into the Notes field because it was quick and easy and she was on a roll in a research session. And it never got cleaned up. She's a retired teacher, very intelligent and very computer literate, teaching computer classes herself. She just wasn't real focused on correct data entry at the time she got the data and now is going to be spending a lot of time setting things right. I've spent the time going through the notes of just *one* individual (and we haven't even finished that one person!), detailing how the sources should be entered as sources and how the events should be entered as events and how the sources can be also considered events' and events can also be sources. She realizes she has a major task ahead of her to clean up her file so it's in a presentable format at the time she needs to pass it on to another family member to continue with the research. In this process, we found a lot of duplication in various areas We talked about creating sources, merging duplicate sources, correctly entering locations, merging locations, merging events, creating To-Do items, etc. It's been an excellent teaching experience for all! Several members in the group who had also just been dumping everything into notes were encouraged to clean up their files and have spent hours fixing things when they could have done it the right way the first time and now be working on the brick walls instead of doing clean-up! So think about what you're going to do with the file and data in the long run and do it right from the start so you don't waste time redoing it all later! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
Scott: To each his own, but I sincerely hope that Legacy users don’t jump on this particular bandwagon. Years ago I was an FTM user and the sourcing capability was so weak that I too put everything in Notes. On switching to Legacy I found that converting those notes to proper sources was a major project. When the tools are there to allow doing it right, it's *so* much better to use them. Kirsten From: Scott Hall Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: *** Name CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1) OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3) PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL RCA-HMR: Donald HALL SSDI-RW: Donald HALL Birth CEM-MoCC: 1913 CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913 PK-EGH: White City, NY Death CEM-MoCC: 1976 OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976 PK-EGH: Rochester, NY SSDI-RW: Jun 1976 Burial CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY SSN SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675 Notes (1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7]. (2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8]. (3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38]. *** You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places -- Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries (OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal knowledge of my father (PK-EGH). Scott On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
Those of you critical of my approach are right -- it will be a lot of work to bring the source information into the proper format. I will say that even if I had all sourcing in (as I do for events like census), I still would use my note system as I want to track where differences are -- and see them at a glance -- which is the whole point of Research Notes. If I were doing this the ideal way, I'd track the data in notes AND record the sources against the data field. I didn't do this last step because I wasn't sure the best way to record multiple sources (the point of the OP's question) -- show every source, or decide which was the most viable? In my example, I have nine sources for my grandfather's name -- most of them identical to each other. I probably don't need to record 9 sources for one fact -- so which do I choose? The obituary, cemetery transcription, and census are all about equal levels of surety, but the only source of his middle name comes from the personal knowledge of my father, which is, by definition, less reliable than official sources. Even when I answer this question and decide which sources to link, I think that I would still wish to keep the Research Notes as they not only provide the at a glance reference I mentioned before, but also serve as a research log. I know I don't need to search out his obituary, or look for him in the SSDI -- I've already done that and capture what those sources said. Scott On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Scott: To each his own, but I sincerely hope that Legacy users don’t jump on this particular bandwagon. Years ago I was an FTM user and the sourcing capability was so weak that I too put everything in Notes. On switching to Legacy I found that converting those notes to proper sources was a major project. When the tools are there to allow doing it right, it's *so* much better to use them. Kirsten From: Scott Hall Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: *** Name CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1) OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3) PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL RCA-HMR: Donald HALL SSDI-RW: Donald HALL Birth CEM-MoCC: 1913 CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913 PK-EGH: White City, NY Death CEM-MoCC: 1976 OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976 PK-EGH: Rochester, NY SSDI-RW: Jun 1976 Burial CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY SSN SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675 Notes (1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7]. (2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8]. (3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38]. *** You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places -- Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries (OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal knowledge of my father (PK-EGH). Scott On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http
RE: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
That is such a great question! I personally keep all OFFICIAL sources. I will delete “temporary” sources such as interviews with people, the IGI, New FamilySearch, indexes etc. I consider temporary sources like placeholders. They hold the place until I get something more solid. However, I might have several official sources for one bit of info. If I write up some sort of paper (magazine article, case study etc. then I will usually just pick one as my source so that I don’t have pages and pages of needless footnotes. I hand type all of that so that isn’t a problem but in my database I keep them. michele From: julia m [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
julia m wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? The short answer, as far as I am concerned, is it depends! I do as you say, adding each new Source as I find it, sometimes ending up with 5 or 6 Sources for the same fact. I tend not to add several of the same type of Source - for example, if I get someone's name from the Baptism record of one of their children, I don't usually use the Baptism records of any other of their children to Source their name. Where I will delete an old one in favour of a new one is where I have a better version. For example, for a lot of records I had the record from FamilySearch.org as a Source for Birth/Daptisms ir Marriage. Later on, I was able to get an image of the relevant Church Record from Ancestry or FindMyPast so I add that and then delete the FamilySearch Source because that is only a transcription of the same record. One exception to the deleting as above is where I have entered an Index record for a B, M or D (readily available for British events) and subsequently get the Certificate. I don't delete the Index Source as this would be useful to anyone coming after me and wanting to apply for the same Certificate. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
I keep all of mine, as I don't use the to-do as well as I could. So I can see at a glance where I've looked. I also note if there is a discrepancy, or the information was not found, so I have that information available too. Thats one of the reasons I really like Legacy, I can see most of what I've done one one screen! (hence why I asked about Marriage events. They are not as easily seen) Marli Yoder A M Farms Eureka Sturgeon Missouri From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, March 22, 2012 1:01:17 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? julia m wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? The short answer, as far as I am concerned, is it depends! I do as you say, adding each new Source as I find it, sometimes ending up with 5 or 6 Sources for the same fact. I tend not to add several of the same type of Source - for example, if I get someone's name from the Baptism record of one of their children, I don't usually use the Baptism records of any other of their children to Source their name. Where I will delete an old one in favour of a new one is where I have a better version. For example, for a lot of records I had the record from FamilySearch.org as a Source for Birth/Daptisms ir Marriage. Later on, I was able to get an image of the relevant Church Record from Ancestry or FindMyPast so I add that and then delete the FamilySearch Source because that is only a transcription of the same record. One exception to the deleting as above is where I have entered an Index record for a B, M or D (readily available for British events) and subsequently get the Certificate. I don't delete the Index Source as this would be useful to anyone coming after me and wanting to apply for the same Certificate. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
I have the same philosphy as Jenny - it depends. I may use some census information supported by a child's birth record to determine an approximate birth date and place. Then I may eventually find an index entry for that peron's birth record, so I'll add that to the sources. Once I obtain a copy of the actual birth record, I will delete all the other (secondary and lesser) sources in favor of the primary source of birth record. I may keep the index as a source but usually add the index information to the citation comments. If no birth record is available, I choose the best of the secondary sources. I try not to have an overwhelming number of sources for any one fact/event. I feel that no more than 4 or 5 secondary or lesser sources are needed for most situations. More than that is TMI for most people (including me!). I use Clooz to keep track of all of the records I find on each individual. So, if someone wants to know the steps I took to find the birth record, it's easy enough to show them. Plus I'm making better use of Notes, General Notes and Research Notes. Residence tends to be an exeception to the 4 or 5 sources guidline when someone lived in a particlur place for a long period of time. I will lump all of the city directories under one source citation, though. There is no sense in having 20 city directory entries for one residence. Terri From: julia m aga...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
