Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Cathy Pinner
Pete,

You initially suggested you downloaded your Ged from Ancestry rather 
than creating it in FTM.

Perhaps you did go through FTM.
If you didn't the image links won't be in your Legacy file so trying to 
point somewhere or use the Media Relinker won't work. 


Ancestry Gedcoms are worse than FTM.



You would do well to start again after absorbing the advice.



Cathy



Pete Beatty wrote:


Martha,
Thanks for the input.  The GED is new. I found data, just did not know 
where to look.

Still have a lot of linkage errors and will have to manually correct.

Pete B (my phone)


On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Martha Graham  
wrote:

Hi Pete,
I do not use Ancestry for my genealogy, I have used Legacy for a very 
long time, quitting FTM long before Anc. purchased it.

What I am wondering, and others may be able to answer better than I, is 
the time frame involved with creating a gedcom on Anc and when the 
original files were updated online.

What if and this is pure speculation... the files in your gedcom are 
old?
If you have updated a person or a family and you know exactly when you 
did the update, you might be able to take a look at the Ged file once it
 is imported into  Legacy, then compare it to that which is currently 
online. That would tell you that the gedcom contains old files, not the 
current data.

Thinking outside normal parameters.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA









 
   	Pete BeattyFriday,
 9 September 2016 7:14 AM
  Martha,Thanks for the 
input.  The GED is new. I found data, just did not know where to look.Still
 have a lot of linkage errors and will have to manually correct.Pete
 B (my phone)
 
   	Martha GrahamFriday,
 9 September 2016 6:06 AM
  Hi Pete,
I do not use Ancestry for my genealogy, I have used Legacy for a 
very 
long time, quitting FTM long before Anc. purchased it.

What I am wondering, and others may be able to answer better than I,
 is 
the time frame involved with creating a gedcom on Anc and when the 
original files were updated online.

What if and this is pure speculation... the files in your gedcom are
 
old?
If you have updated a person or a family and you know exactly when 
you 
did the update, you might be able to take a look at the Ged file once it
 
is imported into  Legacy, then compare it to that which is currently 
online. That would tell you that the gedcom contains old files, not the 
current data.

Thinking outside normal parameters.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA








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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Pete Beatty
Martha,
Thanks for the input.  The GED is new. I found data, just did not know where to 
look.

Still have a lot of linkage errors and will have to manually correct.

Pete B (my phone)

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:06 PM, Martha Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete,
> I do not use Ancestry for my genealogy, I have used Legacy for a very long 
> time, quitting FTM long before Anc. purchased it.
> 
> What I am wondering, and others may be able to answer better than I, is the 
> time frame involved with creating a gedcom on Anc and when the original files 
> were updated online.
> 
> What if and this is pure speculation... the files in your gedcom are old?
> If you have updated a person or a family and you know exactly when you did 
> the update, you might be able to take a look at the Ged file once it is 
> imported into  Legacy, then compare it to that which is currently online. 
> That would tell you that the gedcom contains old files, not the current data.
> 
> Thinking outside normal parameters.
> 
> Martha
> In Los Osos, CA
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Martha Graham

Hi Pete,
I do not use Ancestry for my genealogy, I have used Legacy for a very 
long time, quitting FTM long before Anc. purchased it.


What I am wondering, and others may be able to answer better than I, is 
the time frame involved with creating a gedcom on Anc and when the 
original files were updated online.


What if and this is pure speculation... the files in your gedcom are 
old?
If you have updated a person or a family and you know exactly when you 
did the update, you might be able to take a look at the Ged file once it 
is imported into  Legacy, then compare it to that which is currently 
online. That would tell you that the gedcom contains old files, not the 
current data.


Thinking outside normal parameters.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Pete Beatty
Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions.  I did load my data using a
GED file.  After reading I went back and did some detailed checking.  I did
find my data.  However, it is different and I do not know exactly what the
problem is.  I will have to look a little harder.  My Images did not
transfer, so that is something I will have to work with.  I do have all of
my images in a non-Ancestry directory, so that might be the problem.  I will
change the Media directory pointer in Legacy and see if it resolves the
references.  If not, I will have to reconnect manually.

Pete

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Hoff
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:26 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

I barely know enough to be able to fix mouse issues but several years ago
transferred files from FTM to Legacy. Whatever I did media files followed
but we're all associated as Individual rather than with any other
possibility such as a cemetery picture with Burials. Had to sort that out
and well remembered as it took me forever to do that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Sherry <hot.rod.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't have any Ancestry experience with moving a gedcom out from 
> their site but can offer a few hints.
> 
> Sources should have transferred.
> 
> Media files won't be transferred since gedcoms are only text files.
> Sadly, the only way to get them from Ancestry to your computer will be 
> one-by-one.  You'll need to rename the files as you download them (the 
> Ancestry names are awful!) and then link them to the appropriate Media 
> Gallery in Legacy.
> 
> Sherry
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Pete Beatty <pete.bea...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now 
>> converting to Legacy.  I recently create and transferred the Ancestry 
>> Data to Legacy using a GED file, using all options available.
>> 
>> The question now is:   How do I transfer the Sources and Images from
FTM?.
>> I have over 800 citations.
>> 
>> If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut.  If not, what steps must 
>> I follow.  Please be specific.  I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY 
>> transfer all of the work.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Bill Hoff
I barely know enough to be able to fix mouse issues but several years ago 
transferred files from FTM to Legacy. Whatever I did media files followed but 
we're all associated as Individual rather than with any other possibility such 
as a cemetery picture with Burials. Had to sort that out and well remembered as 
it took me forever to do that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Sherry  wrote:
> 
> I don't have any Ancestry experience with moving a gedcom out from
> their site but can offer a few hints.
> 
> Sources should have transferred.
> 
> Media files won't be transferred since gedcoms are only text files.
> Sadly, the only way to get them from Ancestry to your computer will be
> one-by-one.  You'll need to rename the files as you download them (the
> Ancestry names are awful!) and then link them to the appropriate Media
> Gallery in Legacy.
> 
> Sherry
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Pete Beatty  wrote:
>> I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now converting to
>> Legacy.  I recently create and transferred the Ancestry Data to Legacy using
>> a GED file, using all options available.
>> 
>> The question now is:   How do I transfer the Sources and Images from FTM?.
>> I have over 800 citations.
>> 
>> If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut.  If not, what steps must I
>> follow.  Please be specific.  I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY transfer
>> all of the work.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread d . mossfritch
If your data was in a recent version of FTM (2012 or 2014) you should find all 
your sources, citations, and media transferring to Legacy via the GEDCOM. 
Yesterday I completed reviewing, cleaning up, and co mbining some duplicates of 
my database (500+ sources and 24,000 citations). I use the 'grouping' method 
vs. the 'splitting' method for sources/citations. 

First, if you have any descriptions of a source (in FTM, Edit Source dialog, 
'Comments' text box) that information will transfer from FTM, but is turned on 
during the transfer and marked 'include in reports' in Legacy. You can turn off 
those source descriptions (Comments) via Options > Customize > 7. Sources > 7.2 
Master Source Defaults (the second check box, turn on and apply, then turn off 
and again apply). 

Sources from FTM are transferred not as FTM templates in the GEDCOM, but as 
'free form'. I kept my sources as free form, however I edited each source by 
adding Type (for example, Birth Index or Birth Records, depending upon the 
source of the records) and other appropriate information in the Master Source 
Definition. I prefer descriptions for each source, so I use (and updated as 
needed) on Legacy's Comments tab. FTM did not always identify (depending upon 
template) a Repository, so I added those were missing and included a url for 
the source in the Call Number text box on the Repository tab. For books, I 
added title and legal page scans to the Media tab. 

When I completed reviewing and updating or changing my database's sources (some 
sources were a dozen years old, going back two levels of previously used 
genealogy software), I found about 30 sources that could be combined. With 
Legacy that is easy from the Master Source List (highlight a source and click 
'Combine Highlighted Source with Another in List', select the source to combine 
the first with and click 'Highlight Destination Source, Then Click this 
Button'). 

As you have specific questions as you clean up your FTM data for use in Legacy, 
let the list know. Help is quickly available. 

Denise 

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From: "Pete Beatty"  
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 5:46:58 AM 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry 



I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now converting to 
Legacy. I recently create and transferred the Ancestry Data to Legacy using a 
GED file, using all options available. 



The question now is: How do I transfer the Sources and Images from FTM?. I have 
over 800 citations. 



If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut. If not, what steps must I follow. 
Please be specific. I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY transfer all of the 
work. 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Brian Kelly
One step that Geoff glossed over in his video is what to do with the FTM 
Comments/Place combined field which is used in some versions. He quickly 
clicked on the option to always store this as a location. There are 
other options on that screen that may be important to you.


If Legacy offers you an option on what to do with this field you should 
consider how you have used it before answering. If how you used it 
depends on the type of event you should chose the option to ask for each 
type of event. If you used it for a mixture of places and comments 
combined you may need to let Legacy ask you each time so you can decide 
on a case-by-case basis how to handle the contents.


Brian Kelly

On 08-Sep-16 11:17 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Hi Pete,

Welcome to Legacy.
You probably need to start the process again.
Here are the latest directions.


From a Facebook Legacy User Group post by Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy Staff) 
yesterday.

1) If you have a tree on Ancestry.com you will need to sync your FTM to
the tree and make sure that ALL of the media is downloaded to your hard
drive and that the media is linked and visible in FTM. You need FTM 2012
or 2014 to be able to do this.

2) Compact your file (TOOLS > COMPACT FILE, select Perform extended
analysis)

3) Create the gedcom. Leave the settings at the defaults.

4) Do not move or rename any media file or folder after you create the
gedcom. You can do that later but not now.

5) Make sure you are using the most current update to Legacy because
there are FTM fixes in it (FTM generates gedcoms that do not adher e to
the gedcom standards so Legacy has to compensate for that)

6) Import the gedcom into Legacy. Here is a step by step video that
Geoff made http://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=415

Note there are a lot of ex-FTM users in the Facebook Legacy User Group
happy to help others.

Cathy

Pete Beatty wrote:


I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now
converting to Legacy. I recently create and transferred the Ancestry
Data to Legacy using a GED file, using all options available.

The question now is: How do I transfer the Sources and Images from
FTM?. I have over 800 citations.

If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut. If not, what steps must I
follow. Please be specific. I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY
transfer all of the work.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Sherry
I don't have any Ancestry experience with moving a gedcom out from
their site but can offer a few hints.

Sources should have transferred.

Media files won't be transferred since gedcoms are only text files.
Sadly, the only way to get them from Ancestry to your computer will be
one-by-one.  You'll need to rename the files as you download them (the
Ancestry names are awful!) and then link them to the appropriate Media
Gallery in Legacy.

Sherry

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Pete Beatty  wrote:
> I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now converting to
> Legacy.  I recently create and transferred the Ancestry Data to Legacy using
> a GED file, using all options available.
>
> The question now is:   How do I transfer the Sources and Images from FTM?.
> I have over 800 citations.
>
> If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut.  If not, what steps must I
> follow.  Please be specific.  I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY transfer
> all of the work.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Transfer from Ancestry

2016-09-08 Thread Cathy Pinner

Hi Pete,

Welcome to Legacy.
You probably need to start the process again.
Here are the latest directions.

From a Facebook Legacy User Group post by Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy 
Staff) yesterday.
1) If you have a tree on Ancestry.com you will need to sync your FTM to 
the tree and make sure that ALL of the media is downloaded to your hard 
drive and that the media is linked and visible in FTM. You need FTM 2012 
or 2014 to be able to do this.


2) Compact your file (TOOLS > COMPACT FILE, select Perform extended 
analysis)


3) Create the gedcom. Leave the settings at the defaults.

4) Do not move or rename any media file or folder after you create the 
gedcom. You can do that later but not now.


5) Make sure you are using the most current update to Legacy because 
there are FTM fixes in it (FTM generates gedcoms that do not adhere to 
the gedcom standards so Legacy has to compensate for that)


6) Import the gedcom into Legacy. Here is a step by step video that 
Geoff made http://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=415


Note there are a lot of ex-FTM users in the Facebook Legacy User Group 
happy to help others.


Cathy

Pete Beatty wrote:


I have been a Family Tree Maker user for MANY years and am now
converting to Legacy. I recently create and transferred the Ancestry
Data to Legacy using a GED file, using all options available.

The question now is: How do I transfer the Sources and Images from
FTM?. I have over 800 citations.

If there is a tutorial, send me a shortcut. If not, what steps must I
follow. Please be specific. I am hoping I do not have to MANUALLY
transfer all of the work.
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