Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
On 29 July 2013 16:04, Bernard Tyers wrote: > Hi Ben, > > > Ben Laurie wrote: >>On 28 July 2013 12:44, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb >>wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two separate >>"secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch for the >>validity of them. >>> >>> IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk >>users can talk directly) Google Talk service. >> >>There's also OTR, of course: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/. Doesn't >>hide who's talking to who, but does hide >content. > > Yes definitely agree. I use it and suggest it to everyone I know. > > The point here was running a self-hosted XMPP server which allows you to > communicate with anyone running XMPP which allows users on different servers > to communicate, unlike GTalk or Facebook. Doesn't help if the other server logs, tho, right? > > Sent from my tiny electronic gadget. Please excuse my brevity and (probable) > spelling mistakes. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
Hi Ben, Ben Laurie wrote: >On 28 July 2013 12:44, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb >wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two separate >"secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch for the >validity of them. >> >> IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk >users can talk directly) Google Talk service. > >There's also OTR, of course: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/. Doesn't >hide who's talking to who, but does hide >content. Yes definitely agree. I use it and suggest it to everyone I know. The point here was running a self-hosted XMPP server which allows you to communicate with anyone running XMPP which allows users on different servers to communicate, unlike GTalk or Facebook. Sent from my tiny electronic gadget. Please excuse my brevity and (probable) spelling mistakes. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
On 28 July 2013 12:44, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two separate "secure" > Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch for the validity of them. > > IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk users can > talk directly) Google Talk service. There's also OTR, of course: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/. Doesn't hide who's talking to who, but does hide content. > > regards, > Bernard > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: John Perry >> Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 GMT+01:00 >> To: Jitsi Users >> Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server >> Reply-To: Jitsi Users >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an >>> experimental one and, with the developed focused on making the >>> Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit hard for >>> them to constantly troubleshoot server and config problems with the >>> service. >>> >>> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite >>> anyone interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM and >>> run a Jingle node. We are also completely unlogged (even the web >>> server). >>> >>> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not trying >>> to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this will give >>> Emil and the team a little breathing room. >>> >>> Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon >> >> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a >> server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and >> pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that want's >> to use it. >> >> - -- >> John Perry >> >> > > == > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Anthony Papillion >> Date: 27 July 2013 23:44:36 GMT+01:00 >> To: Jitsi Users >> Subject: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server >> Reply-To: Jitsi Users >> >> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an experimental one >> and, with the developed focused on making the Jisti software even more kick >> butt, it's probably a bit hard for them to constantly troubleshoot server >> and config problems with the service. >> >> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite anyone >> interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM and run a Jingle node. >> We are also completely unlogged (even the web server). >> >> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not trying to poach >> users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this will give Emil and the team a >> little breathing room. >> >> Best Regards, >> Anthony Papilloon >> >> -- > > > - -- > Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb > > IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR9QQmAAoJENsz1IO7MIrr6ZcIAKxL8vUD8/BuCzQckcJQDUOw > draNqwLOu+RIzm2IASVSeqw5SiXl0XRxUEi4MiBdRJuYOXumhrM2SScsAWyYLPJx > bvoogbPRaN3jaAvH8opGUoL/GUnlyO9lSxEuQKlxb8cLV+b9Ub4HwBJbyCtMWc7T > aOjzgGW3AnpXhWMftaYGkLeBH+zDgWW1VwL6fRKcYNWwcpHF6+RALVdwgtTeVSwX > aH5HH7Pnowl8wIYAefycXktx5swhpYlbwuJZ392odcJUaxMgTzgd4wF/4vovXjtn > uJR8ChFSGw05oZq8deVR/J3DTSivfzL4lCkfOxZ8y0HRX/XCrv/uOFAt7hUysAE= > =oWr4 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/28/2013 6:44 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two > separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch > for the validity of them. > > IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk > users can talk directly) Google Talk service. > > regards, Bernard > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: John Perry Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 >> GMT+01:00 To: Jitsi Users Subject: Re: >> [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server Reply-To: Jitsi Users >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an >>> experimental one and, with the developed focused on making the >>> Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit hard >>> for them to constantly troubleshoot server and config problems >>> with the service. >>> >>> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite >>> anyone interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM >>> and run a Jingle node. We are also completely unlogged (even >>> the web server). >>> >>> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not >>> trying to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this >>> will give Emil and the team a little breathing room. >>> >>> Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon > >> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a >> server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and >> pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that >> want's to use it. > >> - -- John Perry I want to clarify the "secure" part of my server. It is "secure" in the regard that it is my own server that I have physical access to (it's in my house). It doesn't have any logging turned on and I have no intention of turning it on. Anyone is welcome to use it that cares to. As far as my trustworthiness goes you are welcome to Google jpunix.net and jpunix.com to see the history of my domain and my participation in privacy and security issues. - -- John Perry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21-beta20 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR9QsoAAoJEIn5ENyiI2/NvfUP/iIRCb0NufQdEhk7B7nl9W6i /eSq8wsMgrYi4TqjkItw0ujQEOxbHs8xeI4aLr4D3Py2g0XUEzNGSdycELlX+Pm2 jSYkwpttmiN9tWaFcwf1FpwZBNT90oNiaHlkgoABL+j9jVJ80APv7TlYsp2wnz+5 HPVH5z2aSe97s25CIpgPCxRrtNLKFFq6PEJa/MOZ2YiQ2Di1YrlSh/hrAvw3TEQI a1rm5YiP19rad885cT0t2I9IoGKmeEbU0Ibn2M/mxAtULEhKaxOVzLNmHYCjuy/K 5y0yB2nndBAooB+goW5j2pJejR39Mwt9Z6wZeQlovLyOCy24kdzdtwuEIr2gwlVl 3RrFNbvPQT56aojXUcINlbqsWSedvvjdjzSNWgobZoHvueGzqAhyPXy4ubkn41tY iUN3qx96ZKt4U3/a32/2rHdZHBdzUEqbENt3ibBrPZEAYMFhLPVxXDEFFA02QaPc ECvsn3MHT3MRjkZ2Li7RcMSRNKOj+UQPY9HOVaFFKej5b7NpFct5VM/y25s33hAo 6q6wsY2Xyd2CxXNT0YcMB6zcsSRWBh4RfzWOmQQjhd3OHwhliWDhIfujbvLC5rBc 1ofy7l0X6sPJVJhDaqFu607+YvZuvJkjc/j5bkG5W7c8izS1hD7eI/DT9Ro6O1QQ AnBg6sA50zoDfqWth4BY =8gxr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/28/2013 7:38 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2013, at 13:21, John Perry wrote: > >> On 7/28/2013 6:44 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: >>> For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two >>> separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot >>> vouch for the validity of them. >>> >>> IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no >>> non-GTalk users can talk directly) Google Talk service. >>> >>> regards, Bernard >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: John Perry Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 GMT+01:00 To: Jitsi Users Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server Reply-To: Jitsi Users >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an > experimental one and, with the developed focused on making > the Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit > hard for them to constantly troubleshoot server and config > problems with the service. > > So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and > invite anyone interested to use it. We support voice, > video, and IM and run a Jingle node. We are also completely > unlogged (even the web server). > > Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not > trying to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, > this will give Emil and the team a little breathing room. > > Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon >>> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that want's to use it. >>> - -- John Perry > > >> I want to clarify the "secure" part of my server. It is "secure" >> in the regard that it is my own server that I have physical >> access to (it's in my house). It doesn't have any logging turned >> on and I have no intention of turning it on. Anyone is welcome to >> use it that cares to. As far as my trustworthiness goes you are >> welcome to Google jpunix.net and jpunix.com to see the history of >> my domain and my participation in privacy and security issues. > > Hi John, > > Apologies if my comment sound insulting. It was not meant to be, > more just matter-of-fact - I had no knowledge of how > secure/insecure your service was, and therefore didn't want to > sound like I had any assurances. > > I was going for healthy skepticism as opposed to disbelief. Not > sure if I succeeded. > > IMO everyone should run their own Jabber server at home. It'd not > that difficult. > > regards, Bernard No insult taken!! I was just clarifying the situation. I've been a security/privacy advocate for some time now and I just didn't want anyone to have or perceive any expectations as to the security of the server. As with anything on the Internet all new things should be taken with a grain of salt. Again anyone is welcome to use the server. I just don't make any claims that it's more/less secure than anyone else's server. - -- John Perry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21-beta20 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR9RJNAAoJEIn5ENyiI2/Nt8gP/3NC2pyCbe7GqftIBkhVMM3k D2KxIq09mUnWVNPgf4AvLS7VqC6TzVrKxGT/Z1YpYaoHQegiQFTfDeCLkj9ZoyjI 2kkiLLIS+r5RDNLME1zXBLnBOT0r5SJ6YONuDmJceVn7EGwaKSRX6361t2yO0KX+ cytxINsANggJ9eoVC2tHNOyepiN8AshZ8+gWSTwAQkojVqCr9AMlMJ5QIUKeIT25 RlfJfHtSDyV1PeZRuT6kilv/mwt5fXPKjwAHJ4gMTpzhhD220JMG70bbEM1JUqCj 4D20SmamjeKuAfMHWDyZsqnI73xqznXa5P9EBpiB5kEDarVhxE+fd1hpqaYzaKMC 7SHZ/tGXemCeFmrF36+tmGapcu74pp1TshS4jGLJ4i3UyTpiJoBpFcjAKUIIdMCH Ve7M2qZ51z4cyGXEIn+cIOXjQM3EsOkGefkFEY2SVG5R/HWz7hr+QB1/RjypkJW/ OukqVSW4SwHZ2uyIh9qCCT43P8p2RFKm7Vt4rmsKh0iDdIkxPc0RbIFIwnJW2Klo 4IOroQEo5iC1Jy9a8gED2aiT73+eNLwK/56+3zdkTiPq/edkYPvRHCwUJcsyElqE Pg4o396jLsGWsxVcgvHwN6aNGHudA17O+8QrNh3TLa7QlQl8g7qKKuk/GVU9my2F yCgd9EKhu8m4AbVaMP0r =cYs9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28 Jul 2013, at 13:21, John Perry wrote: > On 7/28/2013 6:44 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: >> For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two >> separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch >> for the validity of them. >> >> IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk >> users can talk directly) Google Talk service. >> >> regards, Bernard >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: John Perry Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 >>> GMT+01:00 To: Jitsi Users Subject: Re: >>> [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server Reply-To: Jitsi Users >>> >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >>> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an experimental one and, with the developed focused on making the Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit hard for them to constantly troubleshoot server and config problems with the service. So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite anyone interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM and run a Jingle node. We are also completely unlogged (even the web server). Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not trying to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this will give Emil and the team a little breathing room. Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon >> >>> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a >>> server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and >>> pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that >>> want's to use it. >> >>> - -- John Perry > > > I want to clarify the "secure" part of my server. It is "secure" in > the regard that it is my own server that I have physical access to > (it's in my house). It doesn't have any logging turned on and I have > no intention of turning it on. Anyone is welcome to use it that cares > to. As far as my trustworthiness goes you are welcome to Google > jpunix.net and jpunix.com to see the history of my domain and my > participation in privacy and security issues. Hi John, Apologies if my comment sound insulting. It was not meant to be, more just matter-of-fact - I had no knowledge of how secure/insecure your service was, and therefore didn't want to sound like I had any assurances. I was going for healthy skepticism as opposed to disbelief. Not sure if I succeeded. IMO everyone should run their own Jabber server at home. It'd not that difficult. regards, Bernard - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR9RDIAAoJENsz1IO7MIrrm3wIAMhU1HwHte3CPbQ8JqLOMWhX 4DuZ0HD7yv5SW+6MwHrPEc/9B3GuIrnWPQs+8aQpAtkRx36b1p7QXIi49HfzSsaY Mu35h0L5fZdYVjhxy4WuC/g/+Dlyu+QmSsZTJbBvPWuLevttKrD7vVhTrzkKHMre eYSMkoxuiaiNq9guUaSTQDQW/cCDCk5/UEZptYQSOKXtdZpz8AE6zMS4nvcvA0+0 l4kgtkpuPwd68xQ42ZFeyBFKZ+XcCLB9Ng8KlIiCDWOGdSACO6avar+zf3phu0+P 8M0OxNHpWJQLnemknW1yGULpb9VtwnzJHDnL5xE7TLYyiWQSEWnmZxf7KDR3FY8= =crVL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
On 7/28/2013 6:44 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two > separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch > for the validity of them. > > IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk > users can talk directly) Google Talk service. > > regards, Bernard > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: John Perry Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 >> GMT+01:00 To: Jitsi Users Subject: Re: >> [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server Reply-To: Jitsi Users >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an >>> experimental one and, with the developed focused on making the >>> Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit hard >>> for them to constantly troubleshoot server and config problems >>> with the service. >>> >>> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite >>> anyone interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM >>> and run a Jingle node. We are also completely unlogged (even >>> the web server). >>> >>> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not >>> trying to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this >>> will give Emil and the team a little breathing room. >>> >>> Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon > >> I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a >> server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and >> pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that >> want's to use it. > >> - -- John Perry I want to clarify the "secure" part of my server. It is "secure" in the regard that it is my own server that I have physical access to (it's in my house). It doesn't have any logging turned on and I have no intention of turning it on. Anyone is welcome to use it that cares to. As far as my trustworthiness goes you are welcome to Google jpunix.net and jpunix.com to see the history of my domain and my participation in privacy and security issues. -- John Perry -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
[liberationtech] Fwd: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For those interested, these two forwarded mails mention two separate "secure" Jabber servers with "no-logging". I cannot vouch for the validity of them. IMO, any alternative to running the now closed (as in no non-GTalk users can talk directly) Google Talk service. regards, Bernard Begin forwarded message: > From: John Perry > Date: 28 July 2013 09:21:23 GMT+01:00 > To: Jitsi Users > Subject: Re: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server > Reply-To: Jitsi Users > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 7/27/2013 5:44 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >> I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an >> experimental one and, with the developed focused on making the >> Jisti software even more kick butt, it's probably a bit hard for >> them to constantly troubleshoot server and config problems with the >> service. >> >> So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite >> anyone interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM and >> run a Jingle node. We are also completely unlogged (even the web >> server). >> >> Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not trying >> to poach users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this will give >> Emil and the team a little breathing room. >> >> Best Regards, Anthony Papilloon > > I don't want to steal any of Anthony's thunder but I also have a > server located at xmpp://chat.jpunix.net that has no logging and > pretty much does what Anthony's does and is open to anyone that want's > to use it. > > - -- > John Perry > > == Begin forwarded message: > From: Anthony Papillion > Date: 27 July 2013 23:44:36 GMT+01:00 > To: Jitsi Users > Subject: [jitsi-users] New XMPP Server > Reply-To: Jitsi Users > > I know that Emil has stated that the jit.si server is an experimental one > and, with the developed focused on making the Jisti software even more kick > butt, it's probably a bit hard for them to constantly troubleshoot server and > config problems with the service. > > So I've set up a similar service at http://patts.us and invite anyone > interested to use it. We support voice, video, and IM and run a Jingle node. > We are also completely unlogged (even the web server). > > Just putting it out there to anyone who's interested. Not trying to poach > users from the jit.si service. Hopefully, this will give Emil and the team a > little breathing room. > > Best Regards, > Anthony Papilloon > > -- - -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR9QQmAAoJENsz1IO7MIrr6ZcIAKxL8vUD8/BuCzQckcJQDUOw draNqwLOu+RIzm2IASVSeqw5SiXl0XRxUEi4MiBdRJuYOXumhrM2SScsAWyYLPJx bvoogbPRaN3jaAvH8opGUoL/GUnlyO9lSxEuQKlxb8cLV+b9Ub4HwBJbyCtMWc7T aOjzgGW3AnpXhWMftaYGkLeBH+zDgWW1VwL6fRKcYNWwcpHF6+RALVdwgtTeVSwX aH5HH7Pnowl8wIYAefycXktx5swhpYlbwuJZ392odcJUaxMgTzgd4wF/4vovXjtn uJR8ChFSGw05oZq8deVR/J3DTSivfzL4lCkfOxZ8y0HRX/XCrv/uOFAt7hUysAE= =oWr4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
