[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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eisa01  changed:

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--- Comment #18 from eisa01  ---
Ok, so based on comment #14 and comment #16 this is fixed.

The remaining issue seems to be that pandoc doesn't recognize the "Heading 1"
style as equivalent to "heading 1"

Briefly googling, the reference spec seems to use "Heading 1" as an example

To me, this seems like a bug in how pandoc parses the style names. Word has
picked up my custom formats for Heading 1 correctly and doesn't show a
duplicate default

Setting as resolved works for me as it was a bug in the LO behavior, but this
new issue seems to be a parsing bug in pandoc

Fraulau, I would submit the bug to pandoc

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--- Comment #17 from Dieter  ---
Hallo Fralau, a new major release of LibreOffice is  available since this bug
was reported. Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of
LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ?I
have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED'
if the bug is still present in the latest versiona

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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--- Comment #16 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
I have made another check to this issue by comparing the styles.xml for the
same document generated by MS Word and LibreOffice and I may have found what is
wrong! The problem is not with document.xml.

The predefined styles are defined, in this extract from the styles.xml
generated by MS Word, with lower case:

  



...

Whereas LibreOffice used capitals:
  




  ...

Is that the cause of the issue? Just to verify this hypothesis, I manually
changed 'Heading 1' and 'Heading 2' into 'heading 1' and 'heading 2' in
styles.xml, regenerated the docx file (by zipping, etc.), and then ran that
document through pandoc. And it worked, pandoc recognized the standard
headings!

Conclusion: in order to make the styles.xml file really standard, the w:val
attribute of the w:name tag should use lowercase, e.g.:



It seems that would fix the issue.

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--- Comment #15 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to fralau from comment #14)
> I have checked (on 6.1.3.2) and, indeed, the output seems the expected one,
> with the reference to the canonic style Heading1.

Does it mean, that we can close this bug? If not, what problem remains? =>
NEEDINFO

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--- Comment #14 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
I have checked (on 6.1.3.2) and, indeed, the output seems the expected one,
with the reference to the canonic style Heading1.

This is how Microsoft Word presents it:

  








  
  
  
  


  
  
  
  

  

And this is how LibreOffice presents it:

  








  
  
  
  


  
  
  
  

  

It's pretty much identical!

This should make it possible for pandoc to process it correctly... And yet
pandoc finds a difference between the 2. It compiles correctly the docx
produced by Word: 

$ pandoc simple.docx
This is the title 1
This is the title 2
Hello this is the paragraph hello. …

while for the same docx produced by LibreOffice:

$ pandoc simple.docx
This is the title 1
This is the title 2
Hello this is the paragraph hello.

Admittedly, passing the pandoc compilation might not be the in the spec of
LibreOffice Write. But, as Data would say, "This is intriguing."

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115856] Docx export: In non-English versions, styles.xml does not contain reference to international styles

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--- Comment #12 from eisa01  ---
I changed my UI language to German, and the export from 6.0.2.1 seems to be
compliant with your expected results?

I extracted the styles.xml from the exported docx and opened in BBEdit and
reflowed

Can you retest in a current version of LibreOffice and paste the info in About
LibreOffice?

  





  


  
  
  


  
  
  
  

  

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--- Comment #11 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
Another possibility, if you don't want to touch the structure of the XML file
produced, might be to simply have a conversion table in LO (I guess there
already is) and convert all standard styles to their English name. 

I surmise LO has a similar issue with style names in native mode, so it might
have some translation mechanism already implemented?

This shouldn't change anything for ordinary users, since Word would
automatically "re-localize" their styles upon next opening. I haven't tested
whether LO does it as well, but I guess it would.

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--- Comment #10 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #5)

> I would add from a personal viewpoint that what you suggest sounds like it
> implies including extra xml information that is currently not stored in ODF
> documents - this can only therefore make them even larger still and more
> verbose when that information gets mapped to docx open xml. Surely, that is
> something we would wish to avoid for performance reasons (it is bad enough
> already) ?

This is valid objection in principle, but the additional information required
in practice is very minimal (a mere indirection).


Instead of saying:

" Here is 'Titre 1' ..."

You basically have to say:

1. "'Titre 1' => 'Heading 1'
2. "Here is 'Heading 1': ..."

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fra...@settlenext.com changed:

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--- Comment #9 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
I don't think it's a duplicate. While there is a rough similarity in
functionally (and general question), the other ones have to do with references
and tables, while this one is very narrow in its technical scope: styles. 

The place in the XML file where the bug occurred has been identified and a
solution has been proposed.

Marking it as duplicate of broad questions would result on the diagnostic
information on this bug being lost.

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--- Comment #8 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Hi,
Thanks for reporting the issue.
I think it's a dupe of bug 44451.

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--- Comment #7 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #6)
> @Mikos : any thoughts on this ?

@Miklos

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@Mikos : any thoughts on this ?

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--- Comment #5 from Alex Thurgood  ---
OK, so I'm not a developer, merely a volunteer QAer, so how do I go about
confirming the problem you experience ? Therein lies the immediate issue,
irrespective of its merits.


I would add from a personal viewpoint that what you suggest sounds like it
implies including extra xml information that is currently not stored in ODF
documents - this can only therefore make them even larger still and more
verbose when that information gets mapped to docx open xml. Surely, that is
something we would wish to avoid for performance reasons (it is bad enough
already) ?

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--- Comment #4 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
I might add another point: while it is of course essential to make sure that Ms
Word can read the docx files produced, it is *also* important to meet the 
specification of Office Open XML concerning styles, so that other open source
projects can benefit from a docx file produced by LO. 

Ignoring that requirement, might be excluding other open source software from
the ecosystem of LO, and indirectly favor a closed source software (Ms Word).

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--- Comment #3 from fra...@settlenext.com ---
I used pandoc to illustrate the problem, but the problem lies in the xmlfiles
generated by LO. Any other tool might make the point.


The fact that Word actually reacts well to the way to the styles in docx files
generated by LO is a facility of Word (retranslating the foreign style names
into standard styles). They can do that, in my understanding, thanks to "latent
styles", i.e. an underlying model that is not in the docx/xml file.  Said
otherwise, MS Word has a "fault-tolerant" feature that is not part of the ISO
spec of docx files. Unfortunately, other apps that rely on the standard spec of
docx files (as they should) will fail.


I found this explanation useful:
http://python-docx.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/styles-understanding.html


But the underlying issue is HOW one would define a compliant docx file? There
is a difference between impunity and legality: "Compliant to ISO/IEC 29500 " or
"loads satisfactorily into Ms Word" are NOT interchangeable definitions. In the
spirit of OO, the first is safer, as it is relatively stable definition, it has
general agreement, and if it changes, everyone will be notified in time. By
contrast doing something illegal but with impunity may elicit controversy:
indeed this feature of correcting stylesheets in Word is largely undocumented,
and they might change or alter it without notice.

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--- Comment #2 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Tested with

Version: 6.0.1.1
Build ID: 60bfb1526849283ce2491346ed2aa51c465abfe6
Threads CPU : 4; OS : Mac OS X 10.13.3; UI Render : par défaut; 
Locale : fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group

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--- Comment #1 from Alex Thurgood  ---
@fralau : pandoc is only available via homebrew, not something that most OSX
users commonly install on the OSX boxes.

What other easily installable tool can one use to test your affirmation ?

>From your description, it sounds like the problem lies with pandoc, not with
LO.

If I open my test docx document created by following your description and then
open it in Word 16.10 (180210), I see the correct heading.

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