[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #14 from Piotr --- Here is another hint, and the bug, actually: this "new" rendering, since 5.3 is somehow badly calibrated. Proof: take the example .odt file here, mark all the line "Prices..." > Character > Position > set Kerning to -0.1 pt (the lowest possible). The whole line shrinks around 17%. From a DTP point of view this is absolutely a disaster, if 0.1 pt kerning affects the line that much. Never seen something like this, and I worked on Ventura, PageMaker, Word Perfect and mostly, on OO and LO Writer. My guess is, these are the programmers who are working on LO, glory to them, but the software is used by people like me, from DTP. And the programmers naturally cannot know how DTP should work. So this is the whole thing with rendering too much or whatever, I am not a programmer. :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|1 |0 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #13 from QA Administrators --- [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #12 from Piotr --- (In reply to Dieter from comment #11) > (In reply to Piotr from comment #10) > > LO 7.0, I am curious - was the line "Prices..." taking two lines? Or was it > > in one line? > > The latter would be great. > > No, also two lines. From your initial bug report I thought, 5x is fine, but > didn't see that only 5.1 has been good. Sorry. Thanks, Dieter, that sets me somehow, as I know what to implement. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #11 from Dieter --- (In reply to Piotr from comment #10) > LO 7.0, I am curious - was the line "Prices..." taking two lines? Or was it > in one line? > The latter would be great. No, also two lines. From your initial bug report I thought, 5x is fine, but didn't see that only 5.1 has been good. Sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #10 from Piotr --- (In reply to Dieter from comment #9) > I've opened you file in LO 7.0.0.0alpha1 and also in LO 5.4.7.2, but > couldn't see a difference. Thanks. LO 5.3 - absolute disaster with font rendering compared to <5.2, not only this one case with Palatino Linotype italic, but also with Trajan Pro and other fonts. This might be the result of the change in font rendering issue since 5.3, as mentioned above by Telesto. Therefore, 5.4 would keep this new rendering. LO 7.0, I am curious - was the line "Prices..." taking two lines? Or was it in one line? The latter would be great. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #9 from Dieter --- I've opened you file in LO 7.0.0.0alpha1 and also in LO 5.4.7.2, but couldn't see a difference. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #8 from Piotr --- Created attachment 161337 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161337=edit Example file with too long line I kept the cover, as this is style "first page", so I did not change the structure of the document. See on page 1, the line starting with "Prices...", for years it's been in one line. It is also visible on page 3, same line, it's different point of the offer. So we have around 17 such pages which now have one line more in due to "new rendering". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 Dieter changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||71732 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Comment #7 from Dieter --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > A sample file would be nice :-) => NEEDINFO Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71732 [Bug 71732] [META] Bugs related to text rendering, typography and font features in LO -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #6 from QA Administrators --- [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #5 from Piotr --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > A sample file would be nice :-). The default font rendering changed with > LibreOffice 5.3. So if 5.2 is good and 5.3 is 'bad' .. Telesto, thanks! This might be the clue, I use on Vmware Win XP with 5.1.1.3 for printing (HP drivers issue :) will check it out on 5.3 then. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #4 from Telesto --- A sample file would be nice :-). The default font rendering changed with LibreOffice 5.3. So if 5.2 is good and 5.3 is 'bad' .. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #3 from Piotr --- Thanks a lot Stuart. I know about .zip files, use this feature on daily basis, easier to copy styles or changing colors in files. Will let you know what N++ says :) Regarding system/rendering. So far, if it is open in older version, 5x or so, works fine. Also, if it is open in OpenOffice Writer, 4.1.7, also fine on Win 10 and 8.1. Therefore, the only changing factor is the software itself, not system rendering, graphic card and so on. Hence, this part you can consider clear: the system/hardware does not influence this change. It is sofware rendering, I believe. If so, there should be an official warning then: "As of XXX version you can loose some of your formatting" or so. Cheers, Piotr -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu --- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote --- There are subtle differences in how the operating system and window manager will render text--e.g. handling the font metrics for font height and leading, likewise font ligatures and OTF/Graphite smart font features. Could have some impact here. But start with a direct examination of the document. You can do it with a "Zip" utility--an ODF archive is just a .zip file; but you'd have to spend a little more time figuring out the folder structure and configuration. Work against a copy of the original, and from LO 6.4.4 or 7.0.0 'save as' Flat ODF. That will allow you to conveniently examine the various formatting in the document with a text editor like NotePad++ or similar. Likewise you can install in parallel [1] one of the older LO release builds [2]. With that accomplished, again open a copy of the original in that build--and save as Flat ODF. You can then examine the text spans and ODF structure side-by-side for any differences in formatting or styles that may be affecting layout in current builds of LibreOffice Good luck and let us know what you find, or if you need more assistance. =-ref-= [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel [2] http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133276] Wrong characters formatting (kerning) after odt file opened in LO 6.4.3.2 Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133276 --- Comment #1 from Piotr --- Created attachment 161147 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161147=edit The difference between the versions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
