Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:04:34 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant David, I'm wondering just how much of this assembly you took apart once you got the top and bottom shield plates off. It would seem that I should at least unplug the ribbon from the laser head and pull the 2-3 screws than hold in down against one side of the mechanism. If this Valvboline penetrating spray has any solvents in it, I wouldn't think the ribbon would be happy to get any mist from a nearby shower... 8-/ Matt ... Happy that he's taken a good deal of the assembly apart to inspect and put it back together several times, and the darned thing still works! From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Valvoline stuff, even though it puts out an odor that takes forever to dissipate, works fine in my HP m820e. Just used the straw, dropped a few drops over the rails, moved the heads back and forth by the gears a few times to get total coverage, and that was it. Working fine ever since. _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Win95 video problem
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:48:14 +0100 From: Julian Vassaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Win95 video problem Hi all! While trying to install Win95 on my new HDD (20GB :-) on a L50, I'm having a few problems with the video card : the driver is installed (and no conflict) and set to 65K colors. The BIOS is set to 65K too. But what is strenge is that win95 actually displays very few colors... I used the last video driver from Toshiba. What is strenge is there was win98 on the older disk and the colors were good, with everything set on 65K (16M colors does not look nice on the L50). Can anyone help me please? Julian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 23:39:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant At 05:40 PM 31/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:32:36 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant In a message dated 10/31/02 3:45:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip might consider air weapons beneath their contempt. Neil Well since the topic's been broached, there is a very good light gun oil - Break-Free CLP - which used to be mil-spec, don't know if it is anymore. It has the dreaded petroleum distillates, but also teflon. I use it for everything, and it has not yet caused any damage to plastic parts. Also a product called Rem-Oil, made by Remington. Same kind of formulation. I would stay away from WD-40. It is great stuff for certain applications, but its lubricant is quite volatile, and won't provide lasting lubrication. I would have thought it'd be quite dangerous to use a volatile lubricant in an optical device like that, on the premise that the stuff will evaporate then condense on the lens, ruining the anti-reflective coating on it (even if it didn't actually damage the coating, it'll add to the thickness and make it diffract at a different wavelength) ... As for light greases, I've heard that, of all things, trombone grease works well on these sorts of things, being very light and resistant to 'gumming up' (but then again the context was metal on metal as opposed to plastic on metal) ... try for any musical instrument shop. - Raybot --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 23:41:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant At 07:38 PM 31/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:32:21 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I was worried about the fact that there were no screws holding the laser mechanism to the base as you had described. But after probing with a pin, I've found there are no threads in what seemed like screw holes in the 3 posts that support the mechanism. 3 doughnut shaped cushions had been slipped onto the posts to provide a base for the mechanism flanges to sit on. And glued to the top of the metal flanges are white, rubbery ribbed cushions that apparently press against the lid assembly when it's screwed together to the base. You'll notice that on ANY CD-ROM drive, the head does in fact 'float' on little coils or shims (I found this out the hard way when trying to use a cotton bud to clean one and pushed the lens mechanism too hard). I presume it's for anti-vibration purposes or something. DVD-ROM drives are similar but they're on a mechanism which lets the drive move the lens back and forth as well (presumably to handle multi-layer disks where the lens must focus at a slightly different distance between layers). - Raybot --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] My Libretto 50CT cannot charge up!!!
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:51 + From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] My Libretto 50CT cannot charge up!!! On Friday 01 Nov 2002 1:18 am, you wrote: Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:12:13 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?tradelink=20tradelink?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] My Libretto 50CT cannot charge up!!! --- barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] ªº¶l¥ó¤º®e¡G Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:38:39 + It sounds more as if the power supply is dead than the batteries - can you check the output with no load? But my Libretto works fine with AC adapter plug-in... I also measure the output of my AC adapter, which is steady 14.9X V. Otherwise, there's a fuse on the motherboard - it's well disguised, a square thingie about 3mm*3mm*5mm and IIRC it's about 3.15A. Changing this is not trivial if you are unfamiliar with soldering surface mount components, but if it is blown, you can solder a fuse wire of the proper rating across it. I've done that in the past (on the screen fuse) and I believe Matt has, also. It seems difficult for me, but I still want to know more details Would you mind to tell me more? Neil Neil! Thanks a lot! Alan. Ah. I didn't realise that the beast worked on wall power, my misunderstanding. Okay, first thing to do is download the tech manual for the lib from www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/libretto/li50_70ct.pdf Read, mark well, inwardly digest... It will tell you how to strip the libretto down to its last nut and bolt. You will need a set of jewellers screwdrivers (crosshead) and maybe a 00 or 000 larger crosshead screwdriver. Be cautious - it's very easy to demolish the heads of the screws by applying pressure incautiously :) Once you've done that, strip the beastie down to the motherboard. You're looking for the fuse (IIRC) very close to the battery connector - as described above - and powered off, you should be able to test it with a multimeter. If it is blown, break a glass fuse to extract the wire and solder over the ends. If that doesn't cure it, then there's probably something devastating happened in the charging circuitry - there are some interesting looking transistors around there - and I'm afraid you're on your own. (If you follow the diagnosis route in the manual you will inevitably end up with the line 'replace motherboard'. This is rarely economically viable...) Best of luck, Neil ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Music Playback on 100CT
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:48:02 + From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Music Playback on 100CT On Friday 01 Nov 2002 4:16 am, you wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 04:09:26 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I ought to find list where problems relating specifically to audio recording and playback are discussed. I'm suspecting that even the various HDDs may enter the picture. As I've mentioned, one HDD I have starts clicking after it runs a while and gets a bit hot. I'm wondering if it's possible that an over heated HDD could suddenly loose data transfer speed, and this these tiny clicks, or dropouts. Any HD as it heats could drop into an autocalibrate mode to reposition the head properly. Time was (when I were but a lad) that one could get special AV drives guaranteed not to do this but I suspect those days are past. Neil ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:13:59 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant Hey Raymond, From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll notice that on ANY CD-ROM drive, the head does in fact 'float' on little coils or shims (I found this out the hard way when trying to use a cotton bud to clean one and pushed the lens mechanism too hard). Which reminds me that I need to find something to clean the lens properly. Would what we refer to as the trade name, Q-tip be soft enough? Hmmm... and I have cheap generiec ones. David had mentioned a special fiber cloth for cleaning eyeglasses I think it was. Short of that, I'm trying to figure out what I may have around that would work. I used to have fiber sheets made to clean camera lenses to fold up, tear, and use the torn edge for cleaning if I recall. But I can't think of anything I have at hand at this point. Matt _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Off list HDD stuff
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:43:17 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off list HDD stuff From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I ought to find list where problems relating specifically to audio recording and playback are discussed. I'm suspecting that even the various HDDs may enter the picture. As I've mentioned, one HDD I have starts clicking after it runs a while and gets a bit hot. I'm wondering if it's possible that an over heated HDD could suddenly loose data transfer speed, and this these tiny clicks, or dropouts. Any HD as it heats could drop into an autocalibrate mode to reposition the head properly. Time was (when I were but a lad) that one could get special AV drives guaranteed not to do this but I suspect those days are past. Neil Neil... Do you suppose the excess noise this Fuji HDD makes when it runs is an indication of bad bearings? It was a lot more quite the 1st month after I bought it. Then it started howling one night, and hasn't stopped. I don't know why I bought a Fuji instead of another Toshiba HDD. I've never had any problems with the Toshibas, and for some reason relate 'quality' more with Toshiba than Fujistu. Even if the bearings are howling, I suppose the thing could very well last quite a long time. I was kind of thinking of selling it for $40-$45 USD and picking up a 30GB Toshiba that runs quieter, and may record/playback audio better. From what I understand, the large notebooks have a larger cache that makes them perform incrementally faster. Though I've mentioned this on the list, and haven't gotten any confirmation of it. I should probably find an audio list where people know a bit more specifically about the relationship of HDDs and audio. I'm really happy with this 100CT, even if the case was a bit busted up when I got it. The screws seem to hold it all together well, and the performance is a great improvement over the 70. I guess o/c-ing to 266 is on the agenda at some point, but I wonder if it's going to stand up to Florida summers. From what I've read, most o/c 100s work quite well at 266. It's funny how huge the thing looks to me. I guess it's a slippery slide up/down the slope of acceptance going with the tiny increase of size going up the ladder Lib models. How it that Portege behaving for you? Shel _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Off list HDD stuff
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 23:15:21 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Off list HDD stuff Off list/On list Hmmm seems this is something I tend to mess up a lot! 8-/ _ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:10:56 -0500 From: Lawrence Fieman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant Which reminds me that I need to find something to clean the lens properly. I have successfully used chamois (small squares of it cut from the larger piece), found in an autoparts store and 90% alcohol (from the local discount drug store) to sucessfully clean the delicated video head on a VCR. Regards, L ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] test from doc mike
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:20:49 -0500 From: Michael Hodish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test from doc mike ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:51:40 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant At 03:20 PM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:13:59 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant Hey Raymond, From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll notice that on ANY CD-ROM drive, the head does in fact 'float' on little coils or shims (I found this out the hard way when trying to use a cotton bud to clean one and pushed the lens mechanism too hard). Which reminds me that I need to find something to clean the lens properly. Would what we refer to as the trade name, Q-tip be soft enough? Hmmm... and I have cheap generiec ones. David had mentioned a special fiber cloth for cleaning eyeglasses I think it was. Short of that, I'm trying to figure out what I may have around that would work. I used to have fiber sheets made to clean camera lenses to fold up, tear, and use the torn edge for cleaning if I recall. But I can't think of anything I have at hand at this point. I just use what I presume you call a Q-tip and a little alcohol ... the thing is, often the lens isn't actually dirty, there's just a piece of dust that's landed in just the wrong place and needs removal. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant I'll rip my m820e apart tonight and double check those screws. Take a few pics for reference. Scotch-brite Microfiber cleaning cloth (found at Kmart kitchen section, office depot aisles, etc.) www.mmm.com for more info. That or I'd just clean it off gently with any lens cleaning cloth. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:49:52 + From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant On Saturday 02 Nov 2002 1:04 am, you wrote: Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Valvoline SynPower Penetrating Lubricant I'll rip my m820e apart tonight and double check those screws. Take a few pics for reference. Scotch-brite Microfiber cleaning cloth (found at Kmart kitchen section, office depot aisles, etc.) www.mmm.com for more info. That or I'd just clean it off gently with any lens cleaning cloth. I'd probably use a pufferbrush, or just a compressed air blower to shift surface dust. Generally getting solvents near plastic lenses isn't a wonderful idea. Neil (whose daughter had a really good day yesterday which included getting lost in one of the less fun areas of London, driving into someone, and dropping his no-name pcmcia cd drive into a bucket of water. Daughter, car, and CD are all doing fine :) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Off list HDD stuff
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:02:47 + From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Off list HDD stuff On Friday 01 Nov 2002 10:50 pm, you wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:43:17 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off list HDD stuff From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I ought to find list where problems relating specifically to audio recording and playback are discussed. I'm suspecting that even the various HDDs may enter the picture. As I've mentioned, one HDD I have starts clicking after it runs a while and gets a bit hot. I'm wondering if it's possible that an over heated HDD could suddenly loose data transfer speed, and this these tiny clicks, or dropouts. Any HD as it heats could drop into an autocalibrate mode to reposition the head properly. Time was (when I were but a lad) that one could get special AV drives guaranteed not to do this but I suspect those days are past. Neil Neil... Do you suppose the excess noise this Fuji HDD makes when it runs is an indication of bad bearings? It was a lot more quite the 1st month after I bought it. Then it started howling one night, and hasn't stopped. grin it doesn't sound good... I assume it only occurs when it spins up? I don't know why I bought a Fuji instead of another Toshiba HDD. I've never had any problems with the Toshibas, and for some reason relate 'quality' more with Toshiba than Fujistu. Ah, that would be the Fujistu who are currently being hit in a class action suite from HP and Compaq regarding a mere three hundred thousand faulty drives? Even if the bearings are howling, I suppose the thing could very well last quite a long time. I was kind of thinking of selling it for $40-$45 USD and picking up a 30GB Toshiba that runs quieter, and may record/playback audio better. From what I understand, the large notebooks have a larger cache that makes them perform incrementally faster. Though I've mentioned this on the list, and haven't gotten any confirmation of it. I should probably find an audio list where people know a bit more specifically about the relationship of HDDs and audio. If you can shift it, I would. Though you may find no-one wants to play, or they want their money back. The bigger the cache on a disk, the better you are for AV apps. A two-meg buffer will hold about twelve seconds of raw audio. or a couple of minutes of mpeg. Assuming, of course, that the sectors you need are adjacent. I'm using the Ogg Vorbis coder exclusively now; a single button solution on Mandrake 8 or 9 - 'grip' rips the CD, gets the track names from the CDDA database, and codes all in one. (it does mpg too). On the 750MHz desktop I'm getting rips at 4* real time and coding at 2.5* real time. I'm really happy with this 100CT, even if the case was a bit busted up when I got it. The screws seem to hold it all together well, and the performance is a great improvement over the 70. I guess o/c-ing to 266 is on the agenda at some point, but I wonder if it's going to stand up to Florida summers. From what I've read, most o/c 100s work quite well at 266. It's funny how huge the thing looks to me. I guess it's a slippery slide up/down the slope of acceptance going with the tiny increase of size going up the ladder Lib models. How it that Portege behaving for you? Chugging along very nicely thanks :) Under linux, for writing, I get around two-two+half hours on the standard battery pack; with the big battery pack I can turn it on at Heathrow and play music all the way to JFK and still have some life left. I hate to think how long that battery would drive a libretto... Presently running W2k and mandrake 9 - which appears to have confused some of the fonts, so I'm still investigating that. Presently building the 70 (which has been a research/testbed/backup machine for a while) into a w98/m7.1 for daughter. I *can* make it work with w2k and Mandrake 8.2/9 but it really doesn't have the memory for either and the disk thrashing can get extreme. Plus you have to play serious silly buggers to get the code on there :) Neil ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **