Re: [Lift] superficial first impressions from a rails junkie

2010-03-05 Thread Warren Henning
tl;dr

Want a cookie for your efforts?

If you don't like Lift, don't use it. Problem solved. Hooray, turkey
for everyone!

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[Lift] Looks like a startup, udorse, is using Lift

2009-10-11 Thread Warren Henning

http://udorse.com/about/jobs

udorse is apparently hiring Scala/Lift people. Since one opening
states Experience with Scala and the Lift framework strongly
preferred, I would think either they're using Lift or they plan to in
the near future.

(I am not affiliated with udorse in any way, just noticed this and
wanted to pass it on here.)

Warren

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[Lift] Re: Direct To Web

2009-09-18 Thread Warren Henning

http://www.willingtofail.com/research/rules/d2w.html

It sounds like Rails' scaffolding'/Django's admin module but with some
kind of rule-based system added.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Timothy Perrett
timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:

 Daniel,

 Can you describe direct to web for those of us not familiar?

 Cheers, Tim

 On 18 Sep 2009, at 17:11, Daniel Mejía wrote:


 Hi all,

 In Apple´s WebObjects framework there is a wondeful technology known
 as Diect to Web that enables rapid prototyping base in rules. Is there
 something similar in lift?

 regards,

 Daniel.



 



 


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[Lift] Re: Welcome Indrajit Raychaudhuri to the Lift Committers

2009-09-18 Thread Warren Henning

Grats!

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,

 Please join me in welcoming Indrajit Raychaudhuri to the Lift committers.

 Indrajit has been very visible on the Lift list of late, offering lots of
 good solutions to people's questions.  He's got some ideas of improving the
 Lift Maven infrastructure and build process and will be contributing to the
 build side (and may substantive code side) of Lift.

 Thanks,

 David

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[Lift] Re: Fwd: New basketball court(s) near you: 'Mosswood Park'...

2009-05-14 Thread Warren Henning

Very nice. The web is built off websites that do one thing well.

Why do people have to register to search by zip code?

Warren

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:40 AM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,

 Just a reminder about nofouls.com... a Lift powered site.

 Thanks,

 David

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[Lift] Re: Feedback on screen cast, please

2009-04-24 Thread Warren Henning

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:50 AM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to get some critical feedback on it so I can improve it.

I'm short on criticism - this was really cool.

You might want to comment on how much compile time there is when
you're rapidly updating a Lift application so people don't think you
spend half your development time waiting for the computer or
something.

I'd like to note that for some reason when I opened the machine on my
default media viewer, the video didn't work right although audio was
fine - VLC 0.8.6e, Windows XP SP2. Opening in QuickTime worked fine
though.

Warren

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[Lift] Re: Lift and Bespin... a new way to develop web apps...

2009-04-21 Thread Warren Henning

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 and then collaborate with
 another developer on expanding the chat application while chatting with the
 other developer in the already running chat application.

That would be so god damn awesome.

Is Bespin something else that other enlightened frameworks could
integrate with, as well?

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[Lift] Re: Rails - Lift

2009-04-09 Thread Warren Henning

You're proposing to scrap working code?

Isn't that trying to fix something that isn't broken?

Warren

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Charles F. Munat c...@munat.com wrote:
 I'm writing a proposal for a presentation on moving from Rails to Lift.

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[Lift] Re: What a difference a CPU makes

2009-03-25 Thread Warren Henning

I've wanted to try a solid-state disk for a while. All but the
cheapest systems you can buy these days are Core 2 Duo with 2+ GB of
decently fast RAM (i.e. you can get a decent dual-core laptop with 2
GB of RAM that will run Ubuntu like a champ for ~$500). It seems like
the real way to boost performance on a machine like that is to get a
much faster disk.

Warren

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Derek Chen-Becker
dchenbec...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just wanted to throw this out there in case anyone else is considering new
 hardware.

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[Lift] Re: Lift application: run an debug with IntelliJ IDEA plugin

2009-03-25 Thread Warren Henning

Very cool. And it looks like a new version of the Scala plugin for
IDEA was released today as well. Huzzah!

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Ilya Sergey ilyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 I happy to announce, that last version of Scala plugin IntelliJ IDEA
 (http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=1347) provides possibility to run
 and debug easily lift applications.

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[Lift] Re: [ANN] Beginning Scala by David Pollak (published by APress)

2009-01-21 Thread Warren Henning

Outstanding. Please make followup post(s) when there's something we
can give you/Apress money for.

Warren

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm writing Beginning Scala for APress.  It should be out by JavaOne.

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[Lift] Re: 2.7.3-RC2 looks good to me

2009-01-13 Thread Warren Henning

Hooray. Bugs that essentially cripple Lift are bad.

Um. Slightly OT: when is the Scala release cycle so slow? They need to
stop working on the core language and focus on the stuff they've been
neglecting: standard library docs and IDE plugins. Scala is lightyears
ahead of just about every other programming language except other
space-age languages like Haskell. I'm sick of Netbeans freezing up and
not finding any examples in documentation.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:28 AM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,
 I did a 20 hour stress test of Lift compiled against 2.7.3-RC2.  There are
 no apparent reference retention (memory leak) issues.  I say, Ship it!
 Thanks,
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[Lift] Re: Swampland

2009-01-09 Thread Warren Henning

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, David Pollak
feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's licensed under
 the GNU Affero General Public License
 I'm licensing it under a GPL license because I want to make sure that anyone
 who uses it and updates it contributes code back to the project.

Wow, I'm surprised to see a grizzled old veteran use a license so, er,
aggressively copyleft.

I don't like issue trackers and software project management systems
that try to do too much and which care way too much about quantitative
metrics that are at best useless and at worst extremely misleading.
Simple software gets used, complex software makes people think gee,
think of all those things I *could* do I'm not doing *now* and then
they never do those things.

Warren

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[Lift] Re: [ANN] Scala and Lift presentations at the Silicon Valley Code Camp

2008-11-08 Thread Warren Henning

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:33 PM, David Pollak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will also be doing an intermediate presentation on Lift.  This presentation 
 will be a live coding example where I'll build a real time chat app.

Will there be video of this available afterwards?

Warren

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[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-23 Thread Warren Henning

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Pollak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The folks at Twitter love Scala and say so publicly.

Off-topic: are you at liberty to discuss the extent of Scala usage at
Twitter? What, if anything, can you tell us?

Did they replace Rails with Scala/Lift?! :D

Warren

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[Lift] Re: Scala+Lift Philosophical Question

2008-10-22 Thread Warren Henning

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:50 PM, efleming969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 but it seems high risk for my client to have an
 application built with newer and practically unknown technologies like
 these.

I'm kind of a Lift outsider but this isn't all that Lift-specific in
my view, it's a more general concern about using new technology that
hasn't gained much traction yet, which is something I have experience
with.

I think I understand where you're coming from. It's always scary to
venture into the unknown. Using new technologies, you can feel as if
very quickly after hello world you hit a dirt road and you're on
your own to work things out. However:

1. If you think about it, in a typical web application, the web
framework will only be a small part. The rest (the application server,
database, DNS server, load balancers, spam filters, ...) are still the
same. I for one think your choice of relational database, for
instance, is of far greater consequence than the web framework(s) you
choose.

2. David Pollak is one of the most experienced, intelligent guys in
the industry. He is ideally suited to the task of writing a web
framework.

As I see it, Lift takes proven infrastructure and integrates it using
ideas derived from years and years of hard-won, real-world experience.

Also, doesn't a good test suite help things a lot? If Lift doesn't
work the way it ought to, your tests should be able to expose that in
a meaningful way.

From your perspective, at the present time probably the biggest thing
to be aware of is that the Lift API is not finalized and breaking
changes happen more often than they do with mature projects.

Warren

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