Re: Stanza Numbers for 2.1.11 on Cygwin
Rob V [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't find property type-check for 'stz' ,[ ChangeLog ] | 2003-12-31 Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | * scm/define-translator-properties.scm: remove | melismaEngraverBusy, stz property. ` -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Loading lilypond-mode fails on emacs startup
| command-line() | normal-top-level() ` -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics too far from notes
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The property setting means that the lyrics is typeset within a rectangle that extends at least 3 units down (that's that -3) and 3 units up elative to the baseline of the lyrics. This rectangle is then put next to the rectangle where the stave is typeset (see Documentation - Program reference -Translation - Contexts - Staff for information on the smallest size of that rectangle). So, if you want the lyrics closer to the staves, you can decrease the verticalExtent in the both the Staff context and the LyricsVoice context (note that your setting actually increases the spacing compared to the default). Mats, I your write up on setting properties (http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-10/msg00195.html) and found it very helpful and readable. I definitely think it should be polished up and added somewhere in the documentation, perhaps in the (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.1/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Interpretation-context.html#Interpretation%20context) section. -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: constructive criticism
Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the documentation were in docbook, its far more approachable than texinfo (IMHO). Any thoughts on what Norm Walsh says here: http://norman.walsh.name/2003/05/21/docbook -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.1.6 Cygwin packages available at my homepage
Fodor Bertalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've built a 2.1.6 package. Now it seems to be full and OK. Hello Fodor, When cygwin starts downloading, it reports lilypond 2.01-1. Is that correct? -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
cygwin mirrors
Hi All, Does anyone know where I can download the latest cygwin version of lilypond? Is there a particular mirror which gets the updates first? I'm currently using: , | bash-2.05b$ lilypond --version | lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.1 ` -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange behaviour
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing, really. For some reason (\addlyrics is quite broken, I prefer not to know), a short lived LyricsVoice context is created that spans the rest. The ending of the LyricsVoice is before the first note, does not have any spacing parameters to determine the distance to the first note. Could this possibly explain why my lyrics aren't matching up with my notes, as in the attachment? BTW, I didn't see any notes regarding attaching file, is this OK? attachment: whispering-page1.png -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
notes lyrics won't line up
Hi All, This is my first real attempt, although it took a some time, Emacs helped quite bit. I've got a couple quick questions: How can I assign names to the voices showing up to the left of the first line? E.g., Soprano | Alto| | Tenor | Bass| Why aren't my lyrics lining up with my notes? And I guess along the same line, why is the spacing in some measures so cramped? Since most of the time each of the voices share the same lyrics, I used double quotes when I wanted to preserve space, but print no lyric. To make lining this up easier, I put each measure on a new line. I've attached the ly source, and PDF. -- Thanks in advance, Jeff whispering.ly Description: Binary data whispering.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Staffgroup question
Hi All. I've been fiddling with the satb.ly template, trying to create a barbershop quartet template. My question: Why can I get away with specifying the time signature once in the first staff, and have it default to the same in the lower staff, but not have the key signature behave the same way. It may seem a silly question, but I never played anything that has diffent keys in a connected staff. As such: [...] \score { \notes \context StaffGroup \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { } \context Staff = treble { \key ef \major \time 2/2 } \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { } \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { } \context Staff = bass {\clef bass \key ef \major } \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { } \addlyrics \context Staff = treble \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \tenorMusic } \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { \tenorWords} \addlyrics \context Staff = treble \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \leadMusic } \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { \leadWords} \addlyrics \context Staff = bass \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \bariMusic } \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { \bariWords} \addlyrics \context Staff = bass \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \bassMusic } \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { \bassWords} [...] And secondly, is that the correct place(s) to put the \key \time keywords? Thirdly, the original template defined: , |\context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { } ` as , |\context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { s1 } ` What's the significance of that term? And finally, is there a hierarchical diagram of which contexts are valid where? Or perhaps an EBNF? I've been kinda randomly trying spots (and yes, I did read). Thanks in advance, sorry for the greenhorn questions. -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Trouble starting Lilypond
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LilyPond is probably fairly different from most other programs you have experienced before and it's definitely one where you have to read at least the tutorial before you can do anything useful at all. Agreed. Is learning Scheme a subtle requirement? Meaning that to really understand what going on, learn Scheme. If so, any recommended reading? Is there any other documentation other than the tutorial and user guide? I.e., printed book? I use GNU Emacs on Windows, and haven't yet tackled elisp, but is Scheme and elisp similar? So, start with the Windows specific instructions at http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html and then go on to http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Tutorial.html -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly
Pardon me if this list is not for this type of error. I just ran lilypond on source was working pre-2.0.1. I ran convert-ly with the '-f=1.7.18' option in my source, as that was the version indicated. Here is the non-verbose output: , | lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.1 | Running usr... | Now processing: `bbshop.ly' | Parsing...warning: lily-guile: | bbshop.ly: old relative compatibility was not used. | | Interpreting music...[2] | Preprocessing graphical objects... | Calculating line breaks... [2] | paper output to `bbshop.pdftex'... | writing header field `title' to `bbshop.title'... | writing header field `composer' to `bbshop.composer'... | writing header field `arranger' to `bbshop.arranger'... | ERROR: Unbound variable: horizontal-line | | | lilypond: error: LilyPond failed on input file bbshop (exit status 2) | lilypond: warning: Running LilyPond failed. Rerun with --verbose for a trace. | Traceback (most recent call last): | File /usr/bin/lilypond, line 933, in ? | resolution = preview_resolution | File /usr/share/lilypond/2.0.1/python/lilylib.py, line 455, in make_ps_images | header = open (ps_name).read (1024) | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bbshop.ps' ` Attached are the main source module, and one of the included ones, as well as the verbose output. Any pointers would be appreciated. lily.verbose Description: Binary data bbshop.ly Description: Binary data tenor.ly Description: Binary data -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Lilypond-User] 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The error seems to be a tex-error. So have you converted ../../templates/paper.ly and ../../templates/midi.ly or are this original lily-2.0.1 files? Oh, did I use names I shouldn't have? midi.ly and paper.ly are ones I've created. Perhaps, I've some namespace conflict? I'll rename them and try again. -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The error seems to be a tex-error. So have you converted ../../templates/paper.ly and ../../templates/midi.ly or are this original lily-2.0.1 files? Oops. Are these reserved names? They were mine. I changed them to bbshop-paper.ly and bbshop-midi.ly, nevertheless, and got the same errors. But in answer to your question, I did convert them as well. -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it doesn't work after converting these files, look to the file containing horizontal-line-syntax and put it into a new mail for a bug report for convert-ly. The converting script should recognize this and put it in the new syntax, I think. I have no reference to horizontal-line in my .ly files. Whhere should I be looking in for the reference? I wonder if this is related to the macro which was inserted into some of my source: , | #(ly:set-option 'old-relative) ` and the warning I get when attempting to compile: , | bbshop.ly: old relative compatibility was not used. ` -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
cygwin install problem
I've been running until I recently did an update from the cygwin site. Here's what in /bin: , | bash-2.05b$ pwd | /bin | bash-2.05b$ ls -l lily* | -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U 2080 Sep 30 12:22 lily-wins | -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U26120 Sep 30 12:14 lilypond | -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U 3459584 Sep 30 12:25 lilypond-bin.exe | -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U41712 Sep 30 12:14 lilypond-book ` , | bash-2.05b$ which ly2dvi | ly2dvi: Command not found. | bash-2.05b$ ` Any ideas? -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: spacer lyric?
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-02/msg00217.html for some different solutions to the problem. I wasn't aware of the archive. I start there. Cheers, Mats. -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: documentation
Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have friends who I am trying to win over to lilypond, but they keep telling me its to complicated. an example to illustrate: -( -) slur would be much clearer for a newbie if it had notes attached to it. c4-( d4 e4-) and it doesn't take up much more room. On a similar note, I'm using Emacs, and if a DTD existed for lilypond (I'm sure the parser uses something, a BNF grammer or the like), then what about an XML rendition, employing Emacs' PSGML mode, when you could insert XML nodes (via hotkeys, or a menu), use XERCES to validate, then use a stylesheet and XALAN to transform the XML to a .ly file? Just a thought. c4-( d4 e4-) might be score notes slur c4 d e /slur /notes paper indent=0.0\mm papersize=letter\ midi tempo=4=90\ /score -- Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
spacer lyric?
Is there such a way I can create a 'spacer lyric'? E.g. if I have a four part song, which shares the same lyrics 90% of the time, but differs the remaining 10%, I don't want to print duplicate lyrics 4 times, 90% of the time. I want to space the lyrics out until they diverge. I read the manual (no RTFM's please, unless I missed it, and in that case flame way (with a link of course ) (I just downloaded and read today), but saw nothing of this sort. Take a look at the following link for an example: http://www.spebsqsa.org/web/groups/public/documents/native/id_036459.pdf Maybe I'm looking for a way to associate two Voice contexts with one Lyrics context, and override the lyrics when appropriate? -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
StaffGroup question
Why in the following example does 'lower' staff inherit the time signature property, but not the key signature? And is this the right place to set them? (This is from the satb.ly template?) And is 's1' just a name holder to associate each Lyrics and Staff contexts with each other? , | \score | { | \notes | \context StaffGroup | | \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t | | \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { s1 } | \context Staff = upper {\time 2/2 \key ef\major s1 } | \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { s1 } | \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { s1 } | \context Staff = lower {\clef bass s1 } | \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { s1 } | | \addlyrics | \context Staff = upper \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \tenorMusic } | \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { \tenorWords} | \addlyrics | \context Staff = upper \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \leadMusic } | \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { \leadWords} | \addlyrics | \context Staff = lower \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \bariMusic } | \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { \bariWords} | \addlyrics | \context Staff = lower \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \bassMusic } | \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { \bassWords} | | \include ../../templates/paper.ly | \include ../../templates/midi.ly | } ` -- Thanks, Jeff ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
automaticMelismata question (bug?)
In my StaffGroup context (from input/template/satb.ly), the following is set: \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t Can I assume that should extend my lyric to the next note? (It's even tied to the same pitch). When I place the '__' in between, it extends right across my rest. -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: automaticMelismata question (bug?)
Ignore this. I saw the bug mentioned in the documentation. Sorry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffery B. Rancier) writes: In my StaffGroup context (from input/template/satb.ly), the following is set: \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t Can I assume that should extend my lyric to the next note? (It's even tied to the same pitch). When I place the '__' in between, it extends right across my rest. -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` -- Thanks, Jeff , | Jeffery B. Rancier | | Softechnics | a METTLER TOLEDO company ` ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user