Re: Stanza Numbers for 2.1.11 on Cygwin

2004-01-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Rob V [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can't find property type-check for 'stz'

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|   * scm/define-translator-properties.scm: remove
|   melismaEngraverBusy, stz property.
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Loading lilypond-mode fails on emacs startup

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Re: Lyrics too far from notes

2004-01-13 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The property setting means that the lyrics is typeset within a rectangle
 that extends at least 3 units down (that's that -3) and 3 units up
 elative to the baseline of the lyrics. This rectangle is then put next
 to the rectangle where the stave is typeset (see Documentation -
 Program reference -Translation - Contexts - Staff for information on
 the smallest size of that rectangle). So, if you want the lyrics closer
 to the staves, you can decrease the verticalExtent in the both the
 Staff context and the LyricsVoice context (note that your setting
 actually increases the spacing compared to the default).

Mats, 

I your write up on setting properties
(http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-10/msg00195.html)
and found it very helpful and readable.  I definitely think it should be
polished up and added somewhere in the documentation, perhaps in the
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.1/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Interpretation-context.html#Interpretation%20context)
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Re: constructive criticism

2004-01-09 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If the documentation were in docbook, its far more approachable
 than texinfo (IMHO).

Any thoughts on what Norm Walsh says here:

http://norman.walsh.name/2003/05/21/docbook
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Re: 2.1.6 Cygwin packages available at my homepage

2004-01-09 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Fodor Bertalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've built a 2.1.6 package. Now it seems to be full and OK.

Hello Fodor,

When cygwin starts downloading, it reports lilypond 2.01-1.  Is that correct?
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cygwin mirrors

2004-01-05 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Hi All,
Does anyone know where I can download the latest cygwin version of
lilypond?  Is there a particular mirror which gets the updates first?
I'm currently using:

,
| bash-2.05b$ lilypond --version
| lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.1
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Re: Strange behaviour

2003-12-12 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nothing, really. For some reason (\addlyrics is quite broken, I prefer
 not to know), a short lived LyricsVoice context is created that spans
 the rest. The ending of the LyricsVoice is before the first note, does
 not have any spacing parameters to determine the distance to the first
 note.

Could this possibly explain why my lyrics aren't matching up with my
notes, as in the attachment?  BTW, I didn't see any notes regarding
attaching file, is this OK?

attachment: whispering-page1.png
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notes lyrics won't line up

2003-11-11 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Hi All,
This is my first real attempt, although it took a some time, Emacs
helped quite bit.  I've got a couple quick questions:

How can I assign names to the voices showing up to the left of the
first line?  E.g.,

Soprano |
Alto|
|
Tenor   |
Bass|

Why aren't my lyrics lining up with my notes?  And I guess along the
same line, why is the spacing in some measures so cramped?

Since most of the time each of the voices share the same lyrics, I
used double quotes when I wanted to preserve space, but print no
lyric.  To make lining this up easier, I put each measure on a new
line.

I've attached the ly source, and PDF.
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whispering.ly
Description: Binary data


whispering.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Staffgroup question

2003-11-10 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Hi All.

I've been fiddling with the satb.ly template, trying to create a
barbershop quartet template.  My question: Why can I get away with
specifying the time signature once in the first staff, and have it
default to the same in the lower staff, but not have the key signature
behave the same way.  It may seem a silly question, but I never played
anything that has diffent keys in a connected staff.  As such:

[...]

\score { \notes
 \context StaffGroup 
 \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t
 \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs {  }
 \context Staff = treble { \key ef \major \time 2/2 }
 \context Lyrics = leadLyrs {  }
 \context Lyrics = bariLyrs {  }
 \context Staff = bass {\clef bass \key ef \major }
 \context Lyrics = bassLyrs {  }

 \addlyrics
 \context Staff = treble \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \tenorMusic }
 \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { \tenorWords}
 \addlyrics
 \context Staff = treble \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \leadMusic }
 \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { \leadWords}
 \addlyrics
 \context Staff = bass \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \bariMusic }
 \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { \bariWords}
 \addlyrics
 \context Staff = bass  \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \bassMusic }
 \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { \bassWords}
 

[...]

And secondly, is that the correct place(s) to put the \key  \time
keywords?  Thirdly, the original template defined:

,
|\context Lyrics = tenorLyrs {  }
`

as

,
|\context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { s1 }
`

What's the significance of that term? And finally, is there a
hierarchical diagram of which contexts are valid where?  Or perhaps an
EBNF?  I've been kinda randomly trying spots (and yes, I did read).

Thanks in advance, sorry for the greenhorn questions.

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Re: Trouble starting Lilypond

2003-11-06 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 LilyPond is probably fairly different from most other programs you
 have experienced before and it's definitely one where you have to
 read at least the tutorial before you can do anything useful at all.

Agreed.  Is learning Scheme a subtle requirement?  Meaning that to
really understand what going on, learn Scheme.  If so, any recommended
reading?

Is there any other documentation other than the tutorial and user
guide?  I.e., printed book?  I use GNU Emacs on Windows, and haven't
yet tackled elisp, but is Scheme and elisp similar?

 So, start with the Windows specific instructions at
 http://lilypond.org/web/download/windows.html and then go on
 to
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Tutorial.html

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2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly

2003-10-27 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Pardon me if this list is not for this type of error.  I just ran
lilypond on source was working pre-2.0.1.  I ran convert-ly with the
'-f=1.7.18' option in my source, as that was the version indicated.

Here is the non-verbose output:

,
| lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.1
| Running usr...
| Now processing: `bbshop.ly'
| Parsing...warning: lily-guile: 
| bbshop.ly: old relative compatibility was not used.
| 
| Interpreting music...[2]
| Preprocessing graphical objects... 
| Calculating line breaks... [2]
| paper output to `bbshop.pdftex'...
| writing header field `title' to `bbshop.title'...
| writing header field `composer' to `bbshop.composer'...
| writing header field `arranger' to `bbshop.arranger'...
| ERROR: Unbound variable: horizontal-line
| 
| 
| lilypond: error: LilyPond failed on input file bbshop (exit status 2)
| lilypond: warning: Running LilyPond failed. Rerun with --verbose for a trace.
| Traceback (most recent call last):
|   File /usr/bin/lilypond, line 933, in ?
| resolution = preview_resolution
|   File /usr/share/lilypond/2.0.1/python/lilylib.py, line 455, in make_ps_images
| header = open (ps_name).read (1024)
| IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'bbshop.ps'
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Attached are the main source module, and one of the included ones, as
well as the verbose output.  Any pointers would be appreciated.



lily.verbose
Description: Binary data


bbshop.ly
Description: Binary data


tenor.ly
Description: Binary data

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Re: [Lilypond-User] 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly

2003-10-27 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The error seems to be a tex-error. So have you converted
 ../../templates/paper.ly and ../../templates/midi.ly
 or are this original lily-2.0.1 files?

Oh, did I use names I shouldn't have?  midi.ly and paper.ly are ones
I've created.  Perhaps, I've some namespace conflict?  I'll rename
them and try again.
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Re: 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly

2003-10-27 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The error seems to be a tex-error. So have you converted
 ../../templates/paper.ly and ../../templates/midi.ly
 or are this original lily-2.0.1 files?

Oops.  Are these reserved names?  They were mine.  I changed them to
bbshop-paper.ly and bbshop-midi.ly, nevertheless, and got the same
errors.  But in answer to your question, I did convert them as well.
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Re: 2.0.1 (Cygwin) fails after running convert-ly

2003-10-27 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Jan Kohnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If it doesn't work after converting these files, look to the file containing 
 horizontal-line-syntax and put it into a new mail for a bug report for 
 convert-ly. The converting script should recognize this and put it in the new 
 syntax, I think.

I have no reference to horizontal-line in my .ly files.  Whhere should I be
looking in for the reference?  I wonder if this is related to the
macro which was inserted into some of my source:

,
| #(ly:set-option 'old-relative)
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and the warning I get when attempting to compile:

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| bbshop.ly: old relative compatibility was not used.
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cygwin install problem

2003-10-24 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
I've been running until I recently did an update from the cygwin
site.  Here's what in /bin:

,
| bash-2.05b$ pwd
| /bin
| bash-2.05b$ ls -l lily*
| -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U 2080 Sep 30 12:22 lily-wins
| -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U26120 Sep 30 12:14 lilypond
| -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U  3459584 Sep 30 12:25 lilypond-bin.exe
| -rwxr-xr-x1 jrancier Domain U41712 Sep 30 12:14 lilypond-book
`
,
| bash-2.05b$ which ly2dvi
| ly2dvi: Command not found.
| bash-2.05b$ 
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Re: spacer lyric?

2003-09-23 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 See http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-02/msg00217.html
 for some different solutions to the problem.

I wasn't aware of the archive.  I start there.  Cheers, Mats.
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Re: documentation

2003-09-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have friends who I am trying to win over to lilypond, but they keep
 telling me its to complicated.

 an example to illustrate:

 -( -) slur

 would be much clearer for a newbie if it had notes attached to it.
 c4-( d4 e4-) 

 and it doesn't take up much more room.

On a similar note, I'm using Emacs, and if a DTD existed for lilypond
(I'm sure the parser uses something, a BNF grammer or the like), then
what about an XML rendition, employing Emacs' PSGML mode, when you
could insert XML nodes (via hotkeys, or a menu), use XERCES to
validate, then use a stylesheet and XALAN to transform the XML to a
.ly file?

Just a thought.

c4-( d4 e4-) might be

score
  notes
slur
  c4
  d
  e
/slur
  /notes
  paper indent=0.0\mm papersize=letter\
  midi tempo=4=90\
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spacer lyric?

2003-09-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Is there such a way I can create a 'spacer lyric'?  E.g. if I have a four
part song, which shares the same lyrics 90% of the time, but differs
the remaining 10%, I don't want to print duplicate lyrics 4 times, 90%
of the time.  I want to space the lyrics out until they diverge.

I read the manual (no RTFM's please, unless I missed it, and in that
case flame way (with a link of course ) (I just downloaded and read
today), but saw nothing of this sort.  Take a look at the following
link for an example: 

http://www.spebsqsa.org/web/groups/public/documents/native/id_036459.pdf

Maybe I'm looking for a way to associate two Voice contexts with one
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StaffGroup question

2003-09-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Why in the following example does 'lower' staff inherit the time
signature property, but not the key signature?  And is this the right
place to set them?  (This is from the satb.ly template?)  And is 's1'
just a name holder to associate each Lyrics and Staff contexts with
each other?

,
| \score
| {
| \notes
| \context StaffGroup
| 
|   \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t
|   
|   \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { s1 }
|   \context Staff = upper {\time 2/2 \key ef\major s1 }
|   \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { s1 }
|   \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { s1 }
|   \context Staff = lower {\clef bass s1 }
|   \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { s1 }
| 
|   \addlyrics
|   \context Staff = upper \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \tenorMusic }
|   \context Lyrics = tenorLyrs { \tenorWords}
|   \addlyrics
|   \context Staff = upper \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \leadMusic }
|   \context Lyrics = leadLyrs { \leadWords}
|   \addlyrics
|   \context Staff = lower \context Voice = VA { \voiceOne \bariMusic }
|   \context Lyrics = bariLyrs { \bariWords}
|   \addlyrics
|   \context Staff = lower  \context Voice = VB { \voiceTwo \bassMusic }
|   \context Lyrics = bassLyrs { \bassWords}
| 
| \include ../../templates/paper.ly
| \include ../../templates/midi.ly
| }
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automaticMelismata question (bug?)

2003-09-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
In my StaffGroup context (from input/template/satb.ly), the following
is set:

 \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t

Can I assume that should extend my lyric to the next note?  (It's even
tied to the same pitch).  When I place the '__' in between, it extends
right across my rest.
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Re: automaticMelismata question (bug?)

2003-09-22 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
Ignore this.  I saw the bug mentioned in the documentation. Sorry.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffery B. Rancier) writes:

 In my StaffGroup context (from input/template/satb.ly), the following
 is set:

  \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t

 Can I assume that should extend my lyric to the next note?  (It's even
 tied to the same pitch).  When I place the '__' in between, it extends
 right across my rest.
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