Re: How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2016-01-02 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi,

Here's a fairly simple hack:

\version "2.19.32"

\new Staff {
  R1
  <<
\new Voice = "1" {
  \voiceOne
  g'2 4*2
}
\new Voice = "2" {
  \voiceTwo
  e'2  4~ 
}
  >>
  R1
}

Cheers,
Pierre

2016-01-01 2:16 GMT+01:00 Andrew Bernard :

> Hi Cynthia,
>
> If you remove all the overrides and leave it as is you get a more legible
> effect in my view. As Keiran says, the example you show is a strange
> engaving choice. In general it’s better to avoid stems on the other side in
> this particular sort of case unless there are strong musical and graphical
> reasons for it. For simple polyphony, this just looks confusing to the
> player. This is fine:
>
> \version "2.19.32"
>
> \new Staff {
>   R1
>   <<
> \new Voice = "1" {
>   \voiceOne
>   g'2 f'
> }
> \new Voice = "2" {
>   \voiceTwo
>   e’2 4~ 
> }
>   >>
>   R1
> }
>
>
> If you do want to do it, there is a more generalised solution for moving
> noteheads in relation to the stem at LSR:
>
> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=861
>
> Andrew
>
>
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Re: How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2016-01-02 Thread Andrew Bernard
Near, but it is a hack – not really the finest or clearest engraving, I still 
maintain. Speaking as a player myself, it looks odd to read. Whne the player 
has to stop to work out the meaning of the engraving, the engraving has not 
succeeded in being transparent. Others may like it!

Andrew


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How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2015-12-31 Thread Cynthia Karl
(note newfound knowledge used to create a new topic without hijacking a thread.)

I’m engraving a piece that has what appears to me to be an unusual-looking 
polyphonic chord (beat 3, music is \time 4/4):



So far the closest I can come to that chord is:


with the following code:



StemShift.ly
Description: Binary data


Is there a way to shift the stem from the right side of the half-note f to the 
left side with simpler code?  I’m hoping for something like \set 
Stem.attachmentSide = #’left to replace all four of the \override’s and the 
fiddling needed to determine the various numerical quantities.

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Re: How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2015-12-31 Thread Jean Brefort
Hi,

May be you can use something like:
\score {
  <<{g'2 e'4 s}\\{e'2 4 }\\{s2
\override  Stem.stencil=##f f'}>>
}

Happy new year,
Jean

Le jeudi 31 décembre 2015 à 12:33 -0600, Cynthia Karl a écrit :
> (note newfound knowledge used to create a new topic without hijacking
> a thread.)
> 
> I’m engraving a piece that has what appears to me to be an unusual-
> looking polyphonic chord (beat 3, music is \time 4/4):
> 
> 
> So far the closest I can come to that chord is:
> 
> with the following code:
> 
> 
> Is there a way to shift the stem from the right side of the half-note 
> f to the left side with simpler code?  I’m hoping for something like
> \set Stem.attachmentSide = #’left to replace all four of the
> \override’s and the fiddling needed to determine the various
> numerical quantities.
> 
> TIA
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Re: How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2015-12-31 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Cynthia,

> I’m engraving a piece that has what appears to me to be an unusual-looking 
> polyphonic chord (beat 3, music is \time 4/4):

Um… As far as I can tell, this is a very non-conventional engraving choice.

1. Was the original hand-engraved, or Finale/Sibelius/other?
2. Must you copy the engraving exactly, or can you fix/improve the engraving?

Cheers,
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
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Re: How to shift stem from one side of a note to the other side

2015-12-31 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Cynthia,

If you remove all the overrides and leave it as is you get a more legible 
effect in my view. As Keiran says, the example you show is a strange engaving 
choice. In general it’s better to avoid stems on the other side in this 
particular sort of case unless there are strong musical and graphical reasons 
for it. For simple polyphony, this just looks confusing to the player. This is 
fine:

\version "2.19.32"

\new Staff {
  R1
  <<
\new Voice = "1" {
  \voiceOne
  g'2 f'
}
\new Voice = "2" {
  \voiceTwo
  e’2 4~ 
}
  >>
  R1
}


If you do want to do it, there is a more generalised solution for moving 
noteheads in relation to the stem at LSR:

http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=861

Andrew


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